>Look anon, i know it looks retarded in the anime but i swear it's much better explained in the LN
>they anime ruined the source material!
>how did they ruin it?
>they changed x to y!
>why is x better?
>...
every fucking time
>>134118668
>"light" novel
Kekkai Sensen was cool.
Crazy, weird, had a bit of an unsatisfying ending, but cool.
>>134118668
Anyone who likes LNs should hang himself and does not belong here. You're /jp/-tier subhuman.
>>134118911
Enjoy your no S2 pal
>the source material is much better
>all the best scenes were cut out
>>134118884
it was fucking shit m8, they didn't explain a half of what the fuck was going on
>these people actually enjoy reading
>hahaha what nerds we should have daily threads mocking that they actually willing read literature
>>134118668
>Dont dropped this anime yet anon. It will get good when we cover volume x. I promise!
>>134119751
>calling garbage literature
You're insulting actual books by comparing LNs with them.
>>134119751
>literature
>>134119841
Overlord is over 1900 pages in total and better written than most American novels.
>it's shit because it's the boring part of the LN, but anime will not reach the good stuff
Is the only difference between a light novel and a novel the amount of text on each page?
>>134119927
>You'll never get to see Gut's and the great boat adventure animated
>>134119928
Light Novels are written like those books you read when you were 10. You know the ones with pictures in and simple words? Those are exactly like LNs.
>>134120048
That's not even true. There only distinction is that light novels are serialized.
>>134119751
>willing read literature
>LN
>Literature
>>134119954
Yes, tell me more about how Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey are more respectable than Spice and Wolf.
No one's saying that Oreimo will contest with 1984; they're just saying that you're an idiot for dismissing them without knowing anything.
>>134119928
The difference between a LN and a novel is pretty murky. You see a lot of "LN characteristics" in normal novels.
>>134120153
>using 1984 as an example of a great work of literature
Fucking LNfags
>>134118911
Just because the majority of them are shit does not mean all of them are shit.
Did anyone here actually read Slayers LN?
>>134120217
First one that came to my head. Are you claiming that 1984 is literary trash?
>>134120153
>Using twilight as a example
>>134119751
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
>find some random illustrations in the LN
>suddenly become an LNfag because he has those pic
>scenes from the illustrations wasn't animated
>"waaahhh they ruined the source material!"
>>134120269
1984 is mainly read by high school kids for a reason
>>134120269
Not him, but although not bad by any means, 1984 isn't exactly great either. It's good, it's there, it does its job, it isn't revolutionary.
Oregairu?
>>134120439
>No, you need more Japanese memes and gay daydreaming to understand why it's not shit
>>134120472
>needs to write Evangelion-tier essays to describe trite shit like "oh, this guy like this girl," or "oh, he didn't have friends before, but now he does."
Oregairu fans are cancer.
Anons, have you ever considered that sometimes fun things are fun?
>>134120369
Same thing applies to Shakespeare.
Oh, but let me guess. He sucks too?
>anime is complete uttershit
>read the LN, it's good
Every single time
>>134120682
>mfw haven't read shakespeare
Why do mods never delete this thread? It's always just people posting their newest reaction images from /b/.
>>134119841
>actual books
What exactly is "an actual book"?
Whether you like it or not, shitty modern novels like 50 shades still qualify as literature.
>>134118668
true, the LNs/WNs have the advantage of verbosity, especially when it comes to internal monologuing
animu has to show SOMETHING and a minute or longer of still face shot(s) while mental voice explains is a no-no.
Tirst what came to mind is anime ending of Overlord, it had to sacrifice much of explanations compared to text.
>>134119928
I was certain the difference between LNs and novels is the level of kanji used in them?
>>134120790
It's just /a/utists who use words in a sense that suits in order to pretend to be the ELITE of 4chan. La crème de la crème.
Don't worry, they'll go back to their CGDCT SoL like always.
>>134120827
Who would be enforcing that? It's similar to the term "Young Adult" with American novels. Most of it will be trash, but that doesn't mean all of it is.
>>134120658
LN adaptations tend to be lazily made
There isn't really any attempt to really adapt the story, they just cut internal thoughts and cut down content.
LNs are still largely shit, but LN anime could be a lot better than it currently is.
![[HorribleSubs] Gakkou Gurashi! - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.25_[2015.09.07_18.08.20].png](https://i.imgur.com/HsIkgoj.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Gakkou Gurashi! - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.25_[2015.09.07_18.08.20].png")
Actual examples of source material being shit on for a worse story/dumb anime original shit?
>>134120827
According to the LN I read about a LN author, there isn't really a concrete difference. LNs share a lot of common features but they're still just novels under a different name.
>>134118858
light novel=serial novella.
>>134120827
I would think so too, but I've heard that the "Ore, Twintails ni Narimasu" LN series uses old-fashioned formulations and kanji that are barely used nowadays.
>people do not have the ability to read LNs in japanese judging the literary standard of LNs
at least foreign literature are translated by professionals. shit on baka-tsuki is slightly above google translate.
I always thought Light Novel is just a marketing term to describe a specific niche of novels. The western equivalent would be calling them "Teenage Supernatural Romance."
>>134121102
While we can't really judge the writing quality, we can judge the plots and characters (mostly)
>>134118998
Is this even worth watching?
>>134121259
>should I watch AOTY 2014
Probably. Up to you really.
>>134121315
>AOTY of 2014
What makes this the AOTY?NGNL is still my aoty of 2014
>>134121354
My deep personal emotional involvement in the show and attachment to the characters.
>>134121384
nah fuck that. You gotta sell it better to me.
>>134121354
Literally reddit: the anime.
>>134121315
He's probably already seen Ping Pong though
>>134121126
Japan-based anon here. Most LN have identical aspects: extremely aggressive cover with anime elements and designs, about the same size and number of pages with a few illustrations) illustrations (not counting stuff like Monogatari, Kizu being 357 pages long without illustrations), serialized. I haven't read one yet because my Japanese level is still awful, but LN might very well be the manga for authors that can't draw for shit and who can get only some rare illustrations from a co-illustrator.
>>134121449I actually thought literally nothing could knock Ping Pong off from my AOTY spot after it finished airing but YuYuYu just came and dragged my heart out. Ping Pong's the second best anime of 2014 though.
>>134121354
>What makes this the AOTY?
It's not. Shirobako was. But this isn't an AOTY war thread.
Only the shit LN's get translated most cases
>>134120153
>Yes, tell me more about how Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey are more respectable than Spice and Wolf.
But none of those are literature?
>>134121427
>reddit likes show
>it's reddit the anime and /a/nons can't like it
Shitting on a show for it's fanbase is retarded
>>134118668
?
>>134121530
But all of those are literature, dumb rabbitposter.
>>134121589
Just because something is written down and read doesn't make it literature.
If it doesn't have literary merit it's not literature. Malazan Book of the Fallen, My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU, Looking for Alaska, etc. are not literature any more than this conversation is.
>>134121744
If it's published as book form it is literature.
Just like how any animated show made in japan is anime, no matter how shit.
Just like there's shit anime and good anime, there shit literature and good literature
>>134121315
Not even AOTS. And this asspull ending.
>>134120827
>level of kanji
No. It's supposed to be the amount of furigana for the kanji, but in reality there is no difference. It's just a rebranding of novels.
>>134122343
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAG I WANTED A SAD ENDING . I HATE HAPPY ENDINGS. I'M TOO MATURE AND EDGY FOR HAPPY ENDINGS
Fuck off edgelord. The only problem with the ending was that it was rushed, but it was no asspull. Specially since it was stablished the system already changed once. So a new change shouldn't be surprising
>>134122494
What show are you referring to anon?
>>134122528
Follow the conversation, dude.
>>134118998 -> >>134121259 -> >>134121315 -> >>134122343 -> >>134122494
fuck source elitism, and most LNs are trash
![[Orphan] Shirokuma Cafe - 16 (BD 720p) [919E33E9].mkv_snapshot_22.18_[2015.11.09_20.50.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/N2prYuY.jpg "[Orphan] Shirokuma Cafe - 16 (BD 720p) [919E33E9].mkv_snapshot_22.18_[2015.11.09_20.50.35].jpg")
>Watching LN adaptations i the first place.
>>134122943
Manga source elitism is justified 90% of the time though.
I thought you guys loved LN adaptations?
>>134123359
Only /v/ crossboarders who love ebin video game worlds.
>>134119751
>literature
Oh come on now
>>134118911
Most of /jp/ doesn't even like LNs.
Go tip your fedora elsewhere, /lit/.
>>134120882
Fuck off back to /v/
>/a/ hates S&W and Baccano now
What happened?
>>134123484
No you retards,/a/ doesn't hate the 0,1% of decent LN adaptations.
>>134123445
You mad?
>>134123530
Go whine about feminism/SJWs
>>134122943
Source elitism is fine in cases like F/SN, which is a fifty year old eroge everyone should have checked out solely because of how popular it is. Same goes for a few, select LNs.
But source elitism for a generic LN no one even heard of before the anime adaptation was announced is just pathetic and reeks of desperate tryhardness. Everyone knows you only looked it up so you can look tough in the threads about the anime adaptation. Not to mention that in good 90% of the cases once the anime adaptation ends no one will ever discuss that LN ever again.
>recycled plots, characters and dynamics
>It's a bad adaptation, read the LN!
>it's a bad translation, it's better in Japanese!
We've been doing this every season, for years now.
There's a point where you have to wonder if it's all just one big joke that you're not in on, like Instagram filters.
>>134123631
FSN was a great adaptation though. If you're not satisfied with ufo UBW I don't know what you were expecting.
>>134118832
this
>watch Highschool DxD
>continue story in the LN because there is a shitton of content not adapted
>worst writing I have ever read, pretty sure the writing is way worse than the average LN
>they make a new Highschool DxD season
>really hype that they're gonna adapt what I read in the LN
>mfw they changed the script heavily from the LN
>drop it two episodes in
Never, NEVER trust KyoAni. They are truly killers of source materials.
>>134119751
If you enjoy reading you read actual novels.
>>134118668
Yahari threads in a nutshell.
>>134118668
This also applies to manga adaptations faggot.
>le read the manga instead meme
faggots
>>134126215
The worst are VNfags.
>fucking secondaryfag you didn't read 7 hours of cooking
>lol don't ask questions secondaryfag
>>134126150
>>134118668
>I know the plot is retarded and the cast is insufferable now, but the author suddenly got really good at writing during volume 12 so just stick it out, I swear!
>>134126609
>The Anime changed minor details so you have to read all of the first 14 volumes from the start
>>134119751
>LN
>literature
>>134126215
>the source material is an LN, untranslated
>ADAPTATION is manga, translated
>READ THE MANGA SECONDARY
alternatively
>LN/manga translations are chink ESL garbage yet people read them anyways
Why are this so common on /a/ nowadays? I can name 3 shows this season with these fucking retards. None of these chucklefucks legitimately gives a shit about the source material.
>>134123631
More like "it's justified when it's translated because otherwise I can't read it".
>>134126744
>which chapter did the anime end in the manga
>the manga is better read it from the beginning
>>134120959
Gakkou Gurashi is pretty mediocre in both anime and manga form.
>>134119706
just because they didn't spoon feed you the answer doesn't mean it was shit
>>134126034
But I read both actual novels and trashy LNs.
>>134126896
>Why are this so common on /a/ nowadays?
ESLfags are literally the worst posters on this site. No one needs 14 year old Brazilians raving about some shit adaptation of a shit novel they read through machine translations.
I never understood how manga fags act like manga is superior to LN's. It's fucking weeb degeneracy anyway you look at it.
>>134127080
>shit novel they read through machine translations.
They don't even go through the effort of doing that anymore. They read the machine translated manga adaptation instead and complain that the anime adaptation doesn't follow something that is also an adaptation and therefore may have not even followed the source either.
>>134127186
Name one top tier LN that is translated .
Pro tip:You can't
>>134127186
Because manga has actual effort put into it with the art.
>>134126896
>"it's justified when it's translated because otherwise I can't read it".
It's never justified you autistic weeb. Why would anyone bother reading a manga if the adaptation is there? Most mangas also have shitty writing so stop being such a deluded faggot. It's the same fucking principle.
>>134127325
Hakomari
>>134120269
Considering 1984 is just an Americanized version of We by Zamyatin, sure.
>>134127396
I don't think you realized I was purposefully misquoting a retarded mindset that I don't agree with, retard. No wonder you hate reading, you have absolutely no comprehension whatsoever.
>>134125961
>xD
Fuck off
>>134127519
At least you could have gone for Dx.
>>134127254
>They read the machine translated manga adaptation instead
And spoilers off the blogs of shitty translators.
>>134127491
>I was just pretending to be sarcastic
Yes and you purposefully did that. Subhumans like you are the reason this board has gone down the shitter.
>>134127186
It really is. Manga is just as cancerous.
>>134127325
S&W
>>134127186
More good manga than there is good LN's.
You can't refute.
>>134121354
>>134121384I bought both BDs for those shows
>>134128020
There's also more bad mangas than LN's. You can't refute that either.
>>134128020
There's also more shit manga than shit LNs, just because there's so much more manga in existence.
>>134128128
I wouldn't be so sure about that. LNs in general really are fucking awful, you know?
>>134128128
>>134128112
At least when the art is awful and the manga doesn't have a reputation to be amazing beyond that you can filter bad stuff pretty fast.
If the art is good you have something to enjoy even if the story is shit. With LN the writing is almost always pretty shit so you can't filter trough that. You need to actually read it to see if you like the story and characters.
>>134128416
Did you even fucking read? Most mangas in general are fucking awful too and considering the fact that there are way too many mangas compared to LNs, the amount of shitty mangas is also bigger.
>>134127734
Nigger, you really are retarded. Look at the comment chain and look that I was criticizing a different anon for having that mindset. Learn what the word "sarcasm" means.
Don't bother backpedaling further, just admit you're completely illiterate.
