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>>133965218
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Early to bed and early to rise probably indicates unskilled labour.
私を日本語が上手です
>>133981093
いいえ、せんぱい
Remember vocab is my biggest problem, even worse than remember kanji for some reason.
>>133981255
>>133981255
>Remember vocab is my biggest problem
Why would I have to remember that vocab is your biggest problem?
>>133981205
失礼でござる
Ten days.
>>133981498
What level are you taking anon?
>>133981333
Remembering.
Happy now, smartass?
Reminder: don't get dragged into arguments that you, yourself, don't care about.
>>133981498
Which level?
>>133981529
We need this in the OP from now on
>>133981518
>>133981538
N2
>>133981579
Good luck
>>133981529
The joke's on you, I care about all my arguments.
>>133981595
Thanks.
After deciding to take a day a just to do reviews and lowering the new card count to 10 cards a day (It was originally 30), I actually went through all my cards for the first time in a while.
Here are my stats now
>うん
>ううん
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>133982383
I think I'm done for today too, got ~400 reps left
果たしてこの中にどれだけの本物の日本人や日本語学習者がいるのだろうか・・・・
A Aren't there any real Japanese in this thread?;;
>>133982511
一人も居ないだろうな
>>133982461
uh huh
uh-uh
>>133982511
Why would Japanese people need to learn Japanese with a bunch of baka gaijin
>>133982383
What the fuck is going on with those gaps?
>>133982333
> ftw you realize that second bubble is an edit
fuck
>>133982586
For a period of time I just stopped doing reps
>>133982511
大学で日本語を専攻しているけど、恥ずかしいから誰にも言うな
>>133982511
多分私は本物の阿呆かも知れないじゃないですか。
>>133982383
50.3% correct
>>133982553
一本取られた
>>133982637
You aren't going to get anywhere like this. You need to play by the rules and do your daily reps, just like everyone else.
>>133982824
That's not true. He won't get anywhere quickly, but he will get somewhere.
>>133982383
Install Load Balancer. Like, *now*.
And enable leech suspension. You in particular need it.
What did you do today instead of studying?
>>133983007
Shitpost and wish I was less nervous to follow Japanese twitter accounts.
>>133981093
Doesn't make sense, gaijun-kun.
>>133983003
Stop shilling for your shitty Load Balancer program.
Anki's default algorithms are more than sufficient for nicely balancing out your load, assuming you study at a regular rate. All it does is mess with the intervals so words appear too soon or too late for optimal memorisation.
>>133983003
Installing now!
How to I enable leech suspension?
>>133982668
>言うな
This ain't right.
>>133983102
This
>>133983165
Ignore the load balancing shill.
>>133983165
Don't, you'll suspend half of your cards, just bruteforce through it.
>>133983050
センスを作りますぞい
>>133983102
>Anki's default algorithms are more than sufficient for nicely balancing out your load
Yeah they /totally/ help with massive spikes between tomorrow and the day after like are in >>133982383
>All it does is mess with the intervals so words appear too soon or too late for optimal memorisation.
I know exactly what it does and the only place it causes any tangible deviation from the "optimal rep time". Spaced repetition is an approximation and ease is not a rule. Your diet and daily life will affect the optimal timing of your reps much more than load balancer does.
Anki has jitter on intervals by default, you gonna disable that? No. You couldn't even if you wanted to.
Load balancer only comes into play in situations that are bad for your memory in the first place.
>>133983165
http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html
>>133983204
>you'll suspend half of your cards
At this point he needs that. Look at his fucking stats. Pathological cases, etc.
>>133983102
>assuming you study at a regular rate
Did you even see the post he's referring to? Guy studies like once a week. But even the load balancer can't help him at that point.
>>133983209
What?
>>133983234
>massive spikes
It's like 30 cards. LITERALLY MINUTES of studying.
Ya'll motherfuckers are way too lazy to learn Japanese.
>>133983297
>124 cards due
>No grammar studied today
>Just played Shimmy Gammy Tensay instead
We're all gonna make it.
>>133982383
>4% cards seen
>50% correct
It is best if you give up now.
>>133983297
It's like 45 cards and today he had to review like 54 and got 50% retention. You think he's gonna do any better next time? At 50% retention he is literally learning *nothing*.
>>133983376
He's actually learning half of it.
>>133983376
>50%
>nothing
This is some glass half empty shit.
>>133983376
Technically with anki's default ease of 250%, it's 40% retention where you're literally learning nothing.
Of course, anki's retention stat can't go below 50% because it's broken.
>>133983420
>Of course, anki's retention stat can't go below 50% because it's broken.
>>133983376
He has 50% retention because he uses anki twice a week. That's literally all there is to it. No amount of magic add-ons or settings can fix that.
>my stats are worse than this guy's
I feel bad.
>>133983420
>>133983429
>>133983484
>they don't know how the retention stat works
>>133983499
I believe in you.
>>133983437
>ease of 250%
Would lowering it increases one's amount of reviews per day?
>>133983499
>my stats are equal to this guy
Feels chill.
>>133983513
Yes. That's also what "Again" and "Hard" do, but only for that given card.
>>133982550
>>133982668
>>133982585
マジかよ・・・・まあ確かに日本人がこういうスレに来るのは珍しいかもな
なんかアドバイスでもできればいいなって思ったんだけど
>Why would Japanese people need to learn Japanese with a bunch of baka gaijin
You are so smart gaijin kun.
>>133983506
I do actually, and I have no idea why you included my post in that. The other two are wrong but >>133983484 is unrelated.
>>133983580
Even if someone uses anki like twice a week they should be remembering more than 5% (ish) of their cards.
>>133983564
Japanese people only go to the /int/ Japanese thread and shitpost about Koreans.
>>133983605
Eh, if you hit 2 on new cards they get scheduled for the next day, so it's enough to argue that you "should" only be able to remember new cards until the next day.
It's a matter of opinion and so far detached from the design of anki that it doesn't really matter.
1) New deck
2) Added a junk card
3) Failed it several times. Pattern: Again; Good; Repeat
4) Finally don't fail it
The general retention stat is useless.
Bonus: this is why we say people are lying to anki when they have extremely high learning Correct %s.
>>133983713
What the fuck.
>>133983713
>Again; Good; Repeat
In other words you answered this
>Do you remember the card?
With this
>Yes, No, repeat
And you're surprised you get 50% yes and 50% no.
Oh boy, wait until you hear about coin tosses.
>>133983711
He had reps though.
>>133983775
The problem is this: The stat stops being about how many cards you remembered from the previous days, and instead starts being about how well you remember cards that are in the relearning phase.
The fact that cards in the relearning phase contribute to the general retention stat is retarded, and the fact that they contribute to the Learning bucket more than once is downright pathological.
The problem is not "wow, this says 50% when I press each thing 50% of the time". The problem is "this says 50% when I keep forgetting a single card."
>>133983849
>MUH STATS
>>133983977
I'm actively illustating why these particular stats are nearly useless.
>>133983849
>general retention stat
I don't think there's such a thing in anki? It only has correct% which is split between new, young and mature. I think you're just trying to read too much into the stats it presents.
Besides, over a large enough sample it doesn't really matter if it's the same card you're forgetting over and over again. The stats simply reflect how often you have to re-learn cards, whether it's the same one or different ones.
Reminder that finishing Core10k makes you roughly on the level of an 8 year old child
Enjoy your 20 new words a day!
>>133984136
>I don't think there's such a thing in anki? It only has correct% which is split between new, young and mature.
> >>133983713
> Again count: 4 (55.6% correct)
>I think you're just trying to read too much into the stats it presents.
When the stats are misleading at best and useless at worst, and other people in the thread are actively caring about them with such a misunderstanding, I'm definitely going to "care".
>Besides, over a large enough sample it doesn't really matter if it's the same card you're forgetting over and over again.
If I have 500 reviews a day and it says I'm only remembering 80% of them it had better actually be telling me that I'm only remembering 80% of them rather than some lower amount.
>The stats simply reflect how often you have to re-learn cards, whether it's the same one or different ones.
There is no need to know how often you have to relearn the same card multiple times per day. There is even less than no need for such knowledge to actively interfere with knowing how many cards you actually remember from day to day.
>>133982511
>本物の日本人や日本語学習者がいるのだろうか
「本物の日本語学習者」の基準がわかんないよー
I've been using anki for 10 weeks now, but 5 weeks in I got lazy. Today is the first day since then I have finished all my reps, I swear I'll be back to my daily reps now.
>>133984405
>All that unevenness in rep count
le install load balancer
What should I do for listening practice for the N3?
>>133984260
Like I said, the again count simply reflects how often you have to re-learn cards. I asked for a "general retention stat" and you failed to show me one.
Nowhere in that picture does it say "retention".
Just because you want there to be retention stats doesn't mean they are there. If you think the stats displayed by default are inadequate then by all means go ahead and make a plugin to track actual retention. But right now you are effectively eating an orange and claiming it's the worst apple you've had.
>it had better
>There is no need
>even less than no need
>stats are misleading at best and useless at worst
These are your opinions based on an incorrect interpretation of the statistics offered by anki.
>>133984418
I'll by doing all my daily reps from now on, there's no need for it.
>>133984447
reading VNs should be enough
if not, watch more anime
>>133984447
>N3
Does anyone, anyone at all care about this? Employers need higher language skills than this.
>>133984475
I'll be doing all my reps starting 2016 too, feels good to know I will finally be getting somewhere.
>>133984418
>unevenness
>max difference of 30 cards
>literally 2 minutes of extra anki-ing on that one day.
>>133984516
It's not for an employer.
>>133984455
>Like I said, the again count simply reflects how often you have to re-learn cards.
I'm very well aware of that. You're preaching to the choir. It's still wrong.
>I asked for a "general retention stat" and you failed to show me one.
In that case the "learning" correct % is not a general retention stat either.
>Just because you want there to be retention stats doesn't mean they are there.
*Everyone* treats it like a retention stat. The interface makes absolutely no elucidation. You're playing word games with me while you know fully well that I understand what I'm talking about. You can wank right off.
>These are your opinions based on an incorrect interpretation of the statistics offered by anki.
I clearly have the correct interpretation of the statistics offered by anki. You're simply upset that I used a word to describe them that you think is wrong. I went out of my way to explain how they work and why this is wrong. You have no reason to be upset other than the fact that I think it's wrong for anki to use these particular stats. The fact that this is how they're implemented is absolutely no justification for it to be that way; that's tautological.
>>stats are misleading at best and useless at worst
This is not an "opinion" based on "incorrect interpretation". It's an opinion based on a *correct and legitimate understanding of what the stats are measuring*.
>>133984516
>he doesn't know how to set milestones to achieve his goals.
>>133984532
>来年から本気出す
That literally never works, if you want to succeed you start right now.
>>133984532
Why not do them all starting from now? Get a month ahead.
>>133984628
>>he doesn't know how to set milestones to achieve his goals.
A milestone you have to pay for. Great idea.
>>133984628
Just take JCAT.
What learning Japanese consists of:
reading manga
reading VNs
reading LNs
What we mostly discuss here:
Grammar texts
Anki
JLPT
offtopic stuff
>>133984600
Like I said, if you want stats that show different things than the default, you are free to write that plugin yourself. I have reps to do so I'm gonna stop arguing now.
>>133984900
>you are free to write that plugin yourself
Found anki's dev
>>133984488
How much should you be able to understand from anime at that level?
>>133984931
it makes so much sense now
>>133984886
What learning Japanese for asolute beginners consist of:
Not reading manga
Not reading VNs
Not reading LNs
Grammar exercises
Memorizing basic vocab
What we discuss here:
Grammar exercises
Memorizing basic vocab
Offtopic stuff, various arguments
ftfy
>>133984950
I don't know I didn't obsess about meaningless tests as a beginner
>>133984900
Explaining to a general userbase that they're understanding the stats wrong is somehow bad?
珍紛漢紛珍糞漢糞陳奮翰奮です
>>133985010
>陳奮翰奮
>>133984991
I might be a beginner, but if I do pass the test, then at least I can feel smug as fuck knowing that I'm just as good as the people who studied Jap for 4 years at college.
>>133985172
You could spend that money on buying anime merchandise and feel smug as fuck that you're supporting season 2 of whatever getting made.
>>133984999
Here's my summary:
He started off by arguing that the statistics themselves were somehow flawed, useless etc. and my counter-argument was that the stats show what they show, how useful they are depends on what you choose to infer from them.
He thinks you should be able to infer some sort of overall retention stat from them. To me that doesn't really make sense in the context of anki, since over time your retention of a deck should converge to 100% anyway. The closest thing would maybe be your overall mature correct% as new/young correct% will fluctuate, and especially the daily correct%.
But if he really wants his retention stat then he's free to make it himself, I don't know how he plans to calculate it and I don't think it would be particularily useful. Apparently that makes me the creator of anki.
Do you greet yourself after following a Japanese fanartist on twitter?
>>133985679
Abso-freakin-lutely.
>>133985560
>He started off by arguing that the statistics themselves were somehow flawed, useless etc.
In the context of how everyone treats them. Apparently context is what you lack.
>He thinks you should be able to infer some sort of overall retention stat from them.
Because people want it. See: "how useful they are depends on what you choose to infer from them"
>To me that doesn't really make sense in the context of anki
So people are free to want whatever information they want as long as it's what you think they should want?
>since over time your retention of a deck should converge to 100% anyway.
Citation needed, even the supermemo dev isn't this deluded.
>But if he really wants his retention stat then he's free to make it himself
My problem isn't not having a retention stat. My problem is having a combination "relearning efficiency plus general retention" stat. They're completely different information. Mixing them makes it impossible to actually know what your relearning efficiency or general retention for that day actually are. If the stat were actually a relearning stat or a retention stat, that would be fine. Being a "number of times I pressed correct rather than again" stat, as it's implemented, is of no use. People clearly want a true retention stat. That's what they always interpret the existing daily "Correct %" stat as. Every single thread with posts about stats.
>>133985321
No thanks
>tfw no more new cards in your deck
>>133985798
How do you have 97% nonmature?
>>133985798
I will know that feeling later tonight. And I will make a post about it.
>>133985811
I went through most of that deck in under 2 weeks.
>>133985798
I just finished core2k/6k
I feel lost now
>>133985922
You have another 15,000 words to go, so get mining
None of this argument is helping me remember vocab readings or make sense of Tae Kim basics
Can you earn much money from translating?
I've been NEET for years, and have no other skills
>>133985988
I'll help you with tae kim basics anon
>>133986012
If you're good enough to do scholarly-tier translations, you can get away with using it like that.
http://strawpoll.me/6103643
>>133985942
>15,000 more to go
This sounds like pain, ofcourse I already knew this but now that I went through core its a actual thing
>>133986057
>burger power hour
Gee I wonder which is going to get the most votes.
If I wanted to say, "Clip
>>133986181
Are you okay
>>133986181
"Clip
>>133986212
no im having a nervous breakdown
>>133986212
>>133986181
クリプ大丈夫ですか？
Is this the birth of the next new meme?
>>133986057
Where do all these dirty ESLs come from
No wonder these threads suck
If I wanted to say, "Clip the pen to the poster", would I use を on pen and に on poster, or does japanese have a different way of constructing this?
>>133986281
EOPs are too dumb to be interested in a new language, that's why it's mostly foreigners even in American hours
>makes a mistake
>doesn't hide the thread and get off the board for a few hours
The fuck?
>>133986181
>>133986212
fuck me I'm still fucking laughing
>>133986355
m-me too
>>133985705
1. If you say so.
2. Could very well be.
3. I clearly expressed that it was my opinion, it wouldn't be useful to me personally.
4. No citation needed, the point of anki is obviously to learn all the cards you study. To converge towards 100% doesn't mean you'll ever reach 100%, let me rephrase it in a simpler way. The more you study a deck the more of it you should retain. That's not deluded but I assume you just misunderstood.
5. What you're saying makes some sense, but I don't particularly see the need to split the two because in your overall correct% it's going to average out your relearning efficiency anyway.
What would your proposed retention rate stat even look like? Because to me this:
>relearning efficiency or general retention for that day
Sounds completely meaningless.
Alright so I'm following the anki guide and now it's telling me to extract the core2k-image.munged.rar to the "collections.media" folder.
Is this "collections.media" folder something that's supposed to be there, or do I make it?
>>133986546
>I clearly expressed that it was my opinion, it wouldn't be useful to me personally.
I think it's silly to put things in that order, but it's sensible for you to be conservative on something like this and not just listen to one random person.
>That's not deluded but I assume you just misunderstood.
Let's chalk it up to misunderstanding. I'm sure you have a sensible opinion on it and I really don't want to argue about a detail.
>What would your proposed retention rate stat even look like?
I would probably split the existing stat into one or two that mean something. "Relearning efficiency" would be how many times you lapse relearning cards. "General retention" is how many /reps/ you fail vs not fail. Each of them is at least as valuable as the existing daily "Correct %", since that's effectively a combination of the two (plus some stuff about learning new cards that really does go to zero in large decks)
Because failing reps and lapsing relearning cards are affected by different parts of memory they shouldn't be opaquely mixed into the same stat.
>>133986303
That should be correct yeah.
>>133986796
Thanks.
>>133986679
Pretty sure it's already made when you install Anki. Should be in my documents --> anki --> user1
>>133986829
Ah, it's in documents. Thanks.
As always, half of the contents of this threads are half-correct or just wrong.
You guys better not believe what it says here.
Passing Japanese
>>133986703
>Each of them is at least as valuable as the existing daily "Correct %"
That's not saying much.
Anyway you want to know the ratio of failed young/mature cards, basically the current correct % without any new cards? That sounds more useful but it's still something that's going to fluctutate a lot and I think the monthly correct % on young and mature cards anki already offers paints a better picture.
>>133986879
Have you seen the English threads on 2ch? They are way worse.
>>133986921
Even if it fluctuates a lot, if you're gonna have a daily stat, it should be something that normal people can make sense of. I would be for anything other than the current situation, which is basically a placebo stat that people can't even compare to other peoples'.
Even a daily stat that fluctuates wildly is good for catching pathological stuff. If my monthly retention is 95% and one day I have 40% retention, I *really* want to know that.
>>133986993
You would notice your retention is down if you went from 95% to 40% without any stats
>>133987187
Not with relearning mixed into repping.
Can anyone help me translate this sentence? Not sure if Google Translate is correct
えー?俺は目に見えないものを信じないようにしている
>>133986952
holy moly
>>133987202
Doesn't seem like something that needs translating desu
>>133987202
>えー?俺は目に見えないものを信じないようにしている
>>133987198
I remember which ones are the new cards that were added today, it's not that hard
>>133987202
I only believe in things I can see for myself.
>>133987202
I can't believe in what I can't see.
>>133987285
Sure is a good thing to waste brain capacity on that while doing rote memorization
>>133987289
Thanks anon!
>>133981255
Once you learn enough kanji you'll be able to combine them to make up random advanced-sounding words.
>>133982461
>written u-un
>pronounced un-u
I never understood this
>>133987449
It's actually uh-un
>>133987202
Eeeeee? My eyes can't see and I don't believe!
>>133987202
>>133987322
>>133987909
While it sounds slightly unnatural this is the correct translation, ignore >>133987289 and >>133987300
>>133987991
>>133987909
Eh? As for me, I make sure not to believe things my eyes don't see
>>133988054
Eh? I'm making sure not to believe things that are not visible to my eyes.
>>133988110
Eh? I can't learn Japanese
>>133988217
Eh? I exist and make sure not believe thing not visible to eye
>>133988230
Eh? I do towards thing of not believing invisible to eye
>>133988356
Eh? This is a new meme
>>133988486
Eh? Better post it on Reddit for some easy upboats
>>133988486
Eh? dostedt
>>133988539
Eh? dattey
>>133988539
>>133988561
Eh? can i have some ramen ohayougozaimas
Word of the Day: 自由の女神像
>>133988728
>すたちゅーおぶりばてぃー
と暗記しているんだけど、実際に何と呼ばれているかはわかんないよ。おにいちゃん
お仕事中のところをすみません。
Can this mean "I'm sorry, (but) I'm in the midst of my work" as well as "I'm sorry (to bother you) in the midst of your work" depending on context?
Picking out new animay to watch is suffering
>>133989077
No.
>>133989077
In the middle of work is no place to read.
>>133989117
Thanks.
>>133989077
むつかしくかんがえないで。
まくらことばだよ。おにいちゃん
>>133989094
why
>>133982511
Is "Japanese" a fucking noun?
I see Japanese people use this all the time and I always let it go because I thought it was just their shitty grammar.
But now I see regular english speakers saying things like "Let's ask a Japanese"
Shit doesn't sound grammatically correct at all.
>>133989408
the plural form of an adjectives can be used a noun for the general group of things that have the quality of being that adjective
it's perfectly legitimate grammar
>>133989408
Thats cos you're ESL friendo
>>133989471
>the plural form of an adjectives
Sorry, meant an adjective used as a noun then made plural.
The singular also works but only refers to one object. "This japanese". "These japanese". "This red". "These reds".
>>133989471
>an adjectives
It's perfectly legitimate grammar
>>133989508
found the ESL
>>133989554
Found a peasant who can't think outside the box.
>>133989624
Grammar legit you know it is come on
>>133989637
I am become understanding itself.
日本人「日本語について何か質問あったら受け付けるよ！」
偽日本人「お前の言葉、嘘！お前日本人ではない！」
日本人「ええ・・・・（困惑）」
Truth of 4chan
>>133989717
偽日本人「日本語について何か質問あったら受け付けるよ！」
偽日本人「お前の言葉、嘘！お前日本人ではない！」
偽日本人「ええ・・・・（困惑）」
Fixed it for you
>>133989717
>日本人「日本語について何か質問あったら受け付けるよ！」
>外人「別に質問はないけど勝手にしろ」
>日本人「シクシク」
If you find someone speaks shit Japanese, that is weeaboo.
If you find someone speaks good Japanese, that is Korean.
>>133990114
If you find someone who is dog and not human, that is korean
>>133990114
Japan detected
>speaking Japanese
For what purpose?
>>133990114
Why are random American gooks like Tae Kim so good at Japanese?
>>133990114
If you find someone who hates Koreans, that is Korean acting as if he was Japanese
>>133990160
>Tae Kim
>Good at Japanese
>>133990207
He's way better than you'll ever be.
Should I watch the original Sailor Moon anime or the new one?Or should I just watch something else?
>>133990268
Go to be Tae
>>133990270
Both?
>>133990270
Read the manga. Do not watch Crystal.
Or watch Princess Tutu.
>>133990270
Watch some kek show that will make you feel happy inside.
>>133990270
I don't know why you're coming to the DJT for anime recommendations.
>>133990308
Isn't the new one just a remake of the older ones?
>>133990322
Something wrong with Crystal? I tried watching Tutu a few years ago and didn't find it interesting back then
>>133990326
Hard to find those without just rewatching something good
>>133990359
It's for listening practice obviously
>>133990463
No remake is completely fateful though I haven't watched it.
>>133990142
You're already learning a language, why the fuck not learn to write and speak it while you're at it?
How many new cards do you guys add each day? I've got shit retention with30;_;
>>133990715
It varies. I did 30 yesterday and it made me feel like a nigger.
>tfw completed and understood my first manga without any help
t-thanks guys
>>133990715
I did 50 a day for like 4 months but I've stopped for a while now, focusing on reading/listening.
>>133990715
60. Reviews platoed around 100-120, but that's because I already know 90% of the words from watching tons of anime for the past decade.
>>133990889
It's all right, it's not like we actually did anything to help.
Doing anything less than 200 words per day is just pathetic desu senpai.
次の空欄に適当な言葉を選んで短文を作りなさい。
１．あなたに逢えて本当によかった。嬉しくてうれしくて「 ____ 」
>>133990990
Keeping the thread alive with shitposting makes guide readily available to new people who need it.
>>133991039
しかたがない
2ez
>>133990990
surrounded by your silly shitposting i feel more motivated in my studies
>>133991039
うんこがでそう
What's the best place in Japan to find easy yet good Yamato girls to impregnate? Nasty bar sluts won't do.
>>133991381
中学校
>>133991381
the local police station, just tell them what's up
>>133991381
Private christian schools for girls.
>>133991381
海の星行けばいいとおもうよ。
>>133991417
Why would the girls be at the police station?
>>133991068
あってるとおもうよ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km66pdPrD_s
>>133991509
The police are connected with the yakuza and the yakuza will get you some yamato girls
>>133991504
妹は海の星に通ってた？
>less than a month until some of the anime from current season end
It's like a christmas present from Japan every year
>>133991624
What?
>>133990854
does that mean you felt like you did too much work or too little
How many new vocab words in Core2k/6k per day is typical? What did you do when you did it/are you doing currently?
>>133992244
I think 20 is the most common.
>>133992244
Just do what feels right for you as long as it's not some retardedly low number like 20
>>133992244
I'm sorry, I typed out this question while still not having read the whole thread and did not know someone already asked this question this thread. Be that as it may I would still appreciate some responses to gauge what people usually do.
>>133992244
30-40, probably going to stick with 40 now. 20 feels way too slow.
>>133990715
30
It's a nice healthy amount. Not so much that the reviews start killing your reading time, but also enough that you feel like you're making significant progress every day.
It used to be 25 (also a healthy amount), but anki reviews get easier the further in you go, since you're dealing with a decreased number of unfamiliar kanji, even many of the kanji that you don't know are leaving hints about their reading and meaning that you can recognize, and your brain is more used to memorizing Japanese words. I was starting to finish up so quickly and easily that I never felt like I was done with my reps at the end. I might actually give 35 a shot before long, although 30 feels like a sweet spot for the time being.
>>133992244
20 is the minimum moderate pace. you should absolutely do at least 30 if you can handle it. the absolute bare minimum you should do even if you have the worst memory in the world and can't handle the reps is 10.
>>133992353
>>133992481
>>133992526
Hm, okay, thanks. Good to get a picture of what's typical. I'll try for more than that when I start but if my retention becomes awful I'll turn down the heat a bit.
>Can't retain anything I go over in anki
I'll just have to pray harder, Jesus!
>>133992244
A 4 year old learns 30+ words every day. You're not 4 so you should sure as hell be learning at least 100 per day, otherwise, you might as well give up now.
>>133992639
I don't think a christian diety will help you with learning japanese language. Pray to Yushima Tenjin instead.
What does it mean when you say a person is 少なそう? Like they're not good enough or something? It's not talking about quantity or something the person is lacking, so I'm not sure.
>>133992526
>the absolute bare minimum you should do even if you have the worst memory in the world and can't handle the reps is 10.
I'd say 20. Any slower than that, and you're crawling. Learning Japanese is a big task, You have to pick up the pace if you want to achieve your goals in this lifetime.
If your memory sucks shit, you should try to think about how you might help it. I know that it's frowned on here, but seriously, give RTK or Kanji Damage a look to give you a boost with the kanji. If you've finished a grammar guide, don't wait until you have 3000 words under your belt to start reading. If you haven't finished a grammar guide, then go finish a grammar guide. If you're sleeping too much or too little, fix that. Try exercising to get that blood flowing into the brain. If you find that you study better at certain times of the day, make sure that you study there. If you're missing days, then stop missing days. Basically, don't just accept that your memory sucks shit and there's nothing that you can do about it, because there probably is something that you can do about it.
>>133992836
10 is the pathological case -- worst memory IN THE WORLD -- not the "bad" case.
>>133992836
>faling for the "rtk is bad" maymay
>>133992869
Back in my German class in high school, my teacher told us the average human brain couldn't remember more than 7 new words a day.
>>133992655
This figure seems inaccurate, as it would estimate a five-year-old to have a 10,000 word vocabulary, a six-year-old a 20,000 word vocabulary, etc. Being that as it may I think it is possible to do more than that. Not sure about 100/day though. Perhaps if you were a NEET.
>>133992932
Generally people don't think about SRS systems and think of the word "remember" as meaning 100% retention with rote memorization, each day. Obviously with review one can exceed this figure, though.
>>133985679
I follow completely random people who I take an interest in and say nothing to them.
How do you even remember words in Anki? I don't get it. Leaves my brain as soon as I go to the next word. I'm black, btw.
>>133992932
人間って、たくさん記憶はするんだけど、「かんたんに思い出せる記憶」ってなかなか増えないよね。
思い出ばっかりふえちゃって。
>>133992813
前後の文とか、画像とかをくださいな
