You'd think they'd be more common, considering the sheer number of depressed NEETs out there.
I mean, sure, there's SZS and Eva, but you'd expect one per season at least.
Mental illness is not a thing in Japan.
>>133557054
>anime is escapism
>wonders why real world problems arent focused in anime
>>133557054
Nobody wants to watch a mirror, anon.
>>133557127
you need viewers for an anime; this subject matter could make themselves feel the sudden and urgent need to make themselves taller and you don't want that to happen
>>133557054
>Why aren't there more anime about mental illness?
What are you talking about there are a lot of Yaoi and Yuri anime being produced
>>133557054
Do you really want to see stuff like that in anime? Why would you?
Mental illness is a social construct.
hourou musuko is pretty good
>>133557230
"is a social construct" is a social construct
>>133557054
>Why aren't there more anime about mental illness?
Any CGDCTs fits into that category since they make jokes no one would laugh about.
>>133557230
>Mental illness is a social construct.
>>133557257
You're a social construct anon
>>133557280
but humans are social constructs
>>133557247
>>133557054
I watch anime to escape the real world, not go back into it.
But we get tons of shonenshit every season OP.
>>133557198
I think it's interesting and entertaining.
>>133557054
So basically you want like an anime about autism?
Realism a shit. Most shit tier anime tries too hard to be realistic and ends up being shit.
>>133557357
but we have those already
being sad because of depression isn't as intersting as being sad because of giant monsters or relationship issues. There are plenty of shows dealing with social anxiety.
A cgdct show about someone with schizophrenia could be hilarious though
>>133557127
Well, all of the well-adjusted, neurotypical otaku out there could escape with a show like that.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>133557502
>A cgdct show about someone with schizophrenia could be hilarious though
We already have that.
Mental illness is not cute.
>>133557829
I hope you don't mean Gakkou Gurashi!
>>133557077
>Mental illness is not a thing in Japan.
It's a thing. They just refuse to call it that.
>>133557883
It can be
>>133557972
Not anymore. Luckily I had a backup.
Can robots be mentally ill?
>>133558082
No
Robots don't have minds or feelings
anime are rarely controversial because sales. mangas can get away with a lot more
>>133558039
And here I was thinking you meant Sketchbook
>>133557127
Anime should be more than escapism.
>>133558113
Certifiably false on both charges.
Robots are more human than any of us.
Could have something to do with differing attitudes too, like with drugs also.
Anime is escapism, why watch a show about depression when you can just turn of the computer and listen to your own thoughts?
Also, while mental illness can make for a good subject matter, making it good is extremely difficult. There are creative ways, then there are ways in which the character just sits there and tells you how depressed they are, which rarely makes for interesting situations, and can make the character come across as boring, whiny and unlikeable.Just like real life
Also, Japan likes to sweep mental illness under the carpet.
>>133558113
Want to say that again?
>>133558311
Japan can't into drugs besides booze and cigarettes, though.
Mental illnesses are one of the biggest corporate scams of today
Wish you love, not another prescription drug
>>133558428
You can make that arguement about medication if you want, doesn't mean mental illness isn't real.
>>133558428
But the character you posted is mentally ill.
>>133558211
>mangas
>>133558456
problem is theyre making mental illness a normal occurrence instead of treating them
This was about autism.
>>133558428
Prescription drugs are more effective than love, though
>>133558398
>mfw rolling on mdma
>>133558456
A lot of times meds just end up making people worse or even make them addicted and unable to live without their fix. Its a disgusting scam
The only way to fix your problems is to face them head-on
>>133558515
Lain has way bigger and more serious mental issues than just fucking autism.
>>133558583
This
![[FFF] Yuru Yuri San Hai! - 01 [1B453753].mkv_snapshot_07.40_[2015.10.09_00.22.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nOJEBb8.jpg "[FFF] Yuru Yuri San Hai! - 01 [1B453753].mkv_snapshot_07.40_[2015.10.09_00.22.12].jpg")
>>133558571
>crazy yurus
>posting kyouko
>>133558583
That is a pretty huge generalisation. Meds can have an enormous positive impact, but too many psychiatrists are way to eager to prescribe them.
Facing your problems head on is important, but a lot of mental illness can't be treated with just that.
>>133558398
Yes, that was my point. It's a bit different over here where things like Weeds or Breaking Bad become prime time hits. We're more open about talking about mental illnesse here too, so maybe it's different.
Also, the mass media is securely in the pocket of big pharma and making people stupid and ineffective is the goal.
>>133558583
>The only way to fix your problems is to face them head-on
We wouldn't have any crazy people if they could actually do that. Most of the time that's exactly the solution but the people simply can't do it, meds help to some extent.
>>133558587
Super autism?
>>133558583
>>133558669
I reckon you have neither any actual knowledge on the subject nor have ever taken anti kind of anti-depressants.
Seriously, just because doctors and pharmaceutical companies push for people to take meds when they don't need it doesn't mean there aren't people who actually need it. In fact they do the same shit to all kinds of meds and procedures.
>>133558583
Meds aren't supposed to be a cure. They give people the boost they need to "face their problems head-on".
A lot of people simply aren't capable of fixing their problems by themselves.
>>133558724
Japan jusz doesn't have a drug culture like most western countries. Not saying people don't do them, it just isn't a part of media and everyday life.
>>133558724
>We're more open about talking about mental illnesse
You forgot to say overdiagnosed. I'l get flamed for this but if you have a sedentary lifestyle and no friends and you are depressed it isn't because of a chemical imbalance
>>133558747
Yes.
But also schizophrenia.
>>133558783
That's mostly self-diagnosis, though.
>>133558806
Can it be said she was schizophrenic when her entire existence was fractured by nature?
Did anyone mention Trapeze?
>>133558832
Well, not really.
If it wasn't for the ending you could certainly argue that Lain has schizophrenia and a whole bunch of personality and identity problems, though. Seems that being a God manages to explain all of them away.
It is very difficulty to make mental illness cute
>>133558783
I have a sedentary lifestyle because I dropped out of college due to my diagnosed depression
I have no friends because they left because I'm such a downer to be around
>>133559043
Same. Exercise alone is clinically proven to be more effective than antidepressants alone. Maybe both are better but you really should force yourself to be less sedentary
>>133558757
I used to take them actually
I just realized pretty soon they didn't actually fix anything and just blocked your brain from having negative thoughts
>>133559378
How is that not fixing the problem?
>>133559378
I'd rather just get drunk every day personally
>>133559378
Which sometimes is exactly what you need to be able to fix something yourself.
>>133559433
Because all that would acoomplish is make you dependent on meds and you'll crumble as soon as you stop taking them
>>133559443
Yes, I imagine it can work for some people but its simply not what happens for most people who take meds
Good. I don't need anymore blogshit threads on /a/ masking themselves as on topic discussions of anime.
>>133559443
How many people does this work for? How manypeople stop taking meds after a year or two?
>>133559596
So why stop taking them?
![[HorribleSubs] Anime de Wakaru Shinryounaika - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.41_[2015.02.26_22.28.51].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vNUBLXK.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Anime de Wakaru Shinryounaika - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.41_[2015.02.26_22.28.51].jpg")
>>133559596
>>133559644
If you have numbers, feel free to post them. Even then all your argument says is that corporations and doctors are irresponsible and greedy, which everyone knows already.
It doesn't mean there aren't legit disorders and it also doesn't mean regular meds can't help improve a regular depressed person's quality of life.
>>133559669
If you're fine with living in limbo where your brain doesn't work like its supposed to be and spend a lot of money on it then sure, its your life after all
Some people don't find that idea pleasant
>>133559820
>If you're fine with living in limbo where your brain doesn't work like its supposed to be
Where do you think we are?
>>133557054
Does Sakurasou count?
>>133559860A fun and cute board where you talk about your favourite hobby?
>>133559860
>implying this is limbo
>not hell
>>133559596
>Because all that would acoomplish is make you dependent on meds and you'll crumble as soon as you stop taking them
So don't stop taking them. "But you're dependant on them", you might say. To which I say, so what? I'm dependant on drinking water and eating food in order to live, and dependant on clothing to keep from freezing or sustaining other damage from the environment. If I were to have a leg amputated, I'd be dependant on crutches, or a wheelchair, or a prosthetic to be mobile. Why is it necessarily wrong to be dependant on anti-depressants to function?
>>133559947
That too.
>>133559378
>the guy with mental problems thinks mental problems aren't real
You might want to work on those issues buddy.
>>133559820
Anti-depressants don't prevent my brain from working properly; they make it work closer to properly than I'd be without them. And frankly, I'll gladly pay lots of money for them rather than live like I was without them.
>>133560112That was years agoMy perfectly fine now
>>133560255
I wonder about that. You're here after all.
Cute Elf.
>>133560521
Move somewhere with insurance, dingus.I'm sorry anon, no one should have to live without their medical needs fulfilled.
>>133560533
Elves are cute
>>133560521
>tfw trustfund left by grandpa is enough for 20 different me's
100k per month while doing nothing until im 75
>>133560255
That's what you think.
Post more elves.
>>133560801Give me money so I can escape from this hell.
>>133560801
Share some with us, faggot. Or at least fund an anime project.
>>133560721
those aren't elves though
>>133560801
Its time for you to fund keit ai
>>133557127
>Anime about America bombing people
>>133561102
>what is barefoot gen
>>133558851
That show was really disappointing. Literally everything boiled down to "muh repressed emotions" this is like the worst version of watered-down Freud, and Freud is shit-tier psychology already
There are characters that usually deal with some sort of mental illness or something right? They never diagnose them in the show, but it's pretty evident?
In Ao Haru Ride the main male love interest was going through depression.
In Death Note L, Near, and Mello were all autistic.
In Aldonoah Zero that soldier had PTSD and that was kinda the basis for Ghost Hound.
In Welcome to the NHK and other multiple shows they deal with NEETs and Hikkis.
In Japan I think they are still trying to raise awareness about autism, no? I mean it might take some time before mental illness becomes a thing? Just how no one really talks about STIs either.
>>133561208
The original short stories are a lot better.
>>133558507
>autism
>>133557054
What about Watamote?
>>133562388
What about it?
You're unlikely to see an anime dealing with those themes explicitly unless you're doing something fairly avant garde or you happen to be Anno.
It just doesn't really sell well and since Japan isn't very open about mental health isn't easily understandable.
>>133562388
That'd certainly count, it's a fairly light-hearted take on it though, I found it comparable to My Mad Fat Diary but with much less development into the mental side.
>>133563120
>>133557077
How do we educate Japan about this important topic?
>>133564111
Make crippling depression moe characters more prolific
REMEMBER KATAWA SHOUJO? WELL HERE COMES THE AUTISTIC VERSION! seriously is a thing andi'm looking forward to it.
somnovastudios blogspot co uk
Young Black Jack this season has dealt with PTSD a bit.STEEEEEEEBUUUUUUUUUU
>>133564939
But Mentaru Shoujo is literally a vn made by reddit
>>133557979
I'm going to assume this is a he and ignore it.
Dammit /d/, you've ruined everything for me.
>>133566055
>not knowing nadeko
How fucking new are you?
>>133557278
>>133566107
I tens to slob in /tg/ most of the time.
I'm sorry.
>>133566282
Just lurk more.
>>133557054
But they do.
>>133566107
Yawn.
Either you watch monogatari or you don't. Same goes for fate, jojo and fucking ponies.
That's right, not knowing seasonal-monogatari-waifu is exactly the same as not knowing boy pony #4.
>>133566343
Autism is not an illness
>>133566362
The reddit is strong in this one.
>>133566362
>not knowing fate and jojo main characters without ever having watched or read any
And what the fuck do ponies have to do with /a/ you retard? Stop posting.
>>133566362
Not really.
Boy pony #4 is not anime.
This show was so fucking comfy and heartwarming. It was refreshing how it dealt with mental illness in a compassionate manner.
>>133566362
The first monogatari girls have been part of 4chan's culture since 2009. You either have to be really new or you just came here to shitpost.
>>133558039
Madoka Magica is about a schizophrenic magical girl fan named Homura who creates an imaginary friend named Madoka to keep her going each day.
Kyubey is her psychiatrist who's trying to convince her to realize that Madoka isn't real (take her away from Homura in other words).
>>133557054
No one wants another Chaos;head
Isn't autism considered a mental illness
>>133557077
It is, just not as much as in Western countries because A. Smaller country, B. Japan properly raises children so it doesn't make shit up like ADD and C. because the ones with mental disorders don't procreate.
>>133557311
this
if you wanted mental illness just watch any western show. it's full of grimdark depressive bullshit and kucking
>>133566923
Stellar arguments, can't handle the idea that some cultures actually manage their gene pool?
>>133566966
This is some amazing counterargument you've written here
>>133557054
Because that'd be fucking stupid, perhaps.
>>133566923
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Kill yourself.
>>133566548
Nice to see someone else remembers this show. One of the most realistic portrayals of that disorder I've seen in anime. Also nice seeing Arai Satomi display her range and not just her lesbian rapist voice.
>>133567108
Not that lesbian rapist voices are bad.
>>133557153
I do
>>133567212
candyman pls
>>133567212
Narcissus pls
Allahu Akbar!
The U.S. must take Monroe Doctrine now!
The U.S. must withdraw American Forces from all Foreign Countries now!
I love American 99%!
Allahu Akbar!
>>133567254
Who the fuck is candyman and where do you get off ruining my Narcissus joke?
>>133567254
>>133567258
I even fap to myself sometimes
>>133566559
You're not really supporting your assertion that you should be expected to know any more than "that's yet another character from fucking X-monogatari".
>>133567314
Too mentally ill to use google?
>>133567198
Not at all, just nice to see her using her other voices too.
>>133566858
If anything, people with mental disorders should be expected to procreate more, because the decision to not have a child you're not able to support is one that requires long-term planning and rational thought.
>schizophrenia
If you tried to do very inappropriate sexual acts on Yuki while she's delusioning in the broken class room, would this shock her back into normalcy?
The confusion between seeing her imagined classmates going on as usual while her inner privates are being violated into would've probably done more than just one thing on her
>>133557054
Watch more KyoAni shows: K-on, chuu2,...
Mental illness is their specialty.
That movie Aura had some highly autistic shit in it.
>>133566856
Maybe not, given that there's no way to remedy or ameliorate it.
Possibly a mental deformity?
>>133566856
Being born without a leg isn't considered an illness.
>>133567514
Pretty much all they have done have mental defects of some sort.
>what is fate zero
>what is fate in general
>Depression isn't a thing in Japan
>He already forgot Oyasumi punpun and Koe no Katachi
>>133557054
Every Satoshi Kon work
>>133567729
I think Kon's work is less about illness and more just the natural human condition where we all live multiple lives and have multiple facets to our persons that may make us seem like many different people in one body.
Also surprised NHK was only mentioned once before itt when it's such low hanging fruit.
>>133565560
>made by reddit
>being this new
>>133566923
>Are you being fucking serious
ADD is literally 'I can't handle my kid being a kid, let me have an excuse to drug them up so they stop being loud.'
>>133568028
Technically it's not made at all.
>>133568087
You tell 'em, Dr. Riviera.
>>133566437
Is a mental illness thou.
>>133568087
>not wanting drugged children
>>133568446
I would pay an absurd amount of money just to watch them sleeping.
>>133568087
>never known a kid who legit had it
They have a fucking screw loose. Normal kids don't do the insane shit ADD (god forbid ADHD) case kids do. Normal kids don't jump off shit in the classroom for kicks because the others egged them on to the point their hype went off the charts.
>>133564939
I am interested in sexing those knees
>>133568446
What's the context behind this image?
If they really are being drugged somehow in the show then I'm gonna rage so hard
>>133568968
>What's the context behind this image?
It's from an anime
Read Chaos;Head.
>>133568028
Its development certainly started there after KS was released and they wanted their website to make their own vn with disabled girls.
>>133569021
And of course nothing bad at all happens to them in this anime?
>>133569368
No one tries to feed themeggplants
>>133561095
>keit ai
I've never understood the obsession with this shit.
It's a stupid idea and I've always assumed it was a joke, but every once in a while I see some jackass who seems to be serious about it.
>>133558338
>Also, Japan likes to sweep mental illness under the carpet.
Don't you mean into the forest?
>>133564939
That face is pretty disgusting.
And I enjoyed Unteralterbach.
>>133569368
Not at all. They were born with a condition where their necks are too thin to support their massive heads and will certainly snap if they ever get out of bed.
So they stay in bed and live a happy life, if only we could all be so lucky.
Why are you guys focusing on the low-tier mental illnesses? Sure, depression can be crippling, but that certainly did not make Shinji a fun character to watch.
Shit like schizophrenia and bipolar could make for a brutal ride. Psychosis and delusions open up options for fantasy in settings they would otherwise be shut out of, with conflicts between what is real and what is hallucinated. Not being able to tell what is real and what is in your head really screws with a person's worldview.
>>133569532
>DUDE MEMES LMAO
Basically
>>133569595
Did you even read the thread?
>>133569595
You mean like Perfect Blue? Or Lain, kind of?
Unfortunately, severe mental illness is even more of a turn-off for audiences. Every time you see it it's explained away somehow.
>>133569595
Came in just to say this. Psychosis is a powerful narrative device.
Horror anime with a schizophrenic protagonist anyone?
>>133569595
>Welcome to the NHK
>Paranoia Agent
>>133569595
>Not being able to tell what is real and what is in your head really screws with a person's worldview.
Nigga this is what the media is for
Doesn't Kaiji and NHK kind of explore that?
>>133561222
Autism and ADHD everywhere
>>133569732
>Psychosis is a powerful narrative device.
It can also be a way to make a very one dimensional character who does whatever they do for the sole reason that they're insane.
Also can be a way of making an anime just seem nonsensical and random. Even the best anime that use psychosis or delirium can tend towards this.
Take Paprika (Kon's best work) for instance:
>Even the five court ladies danced in sync to the frog's flutes and drums. The whirlwind of recycled paper was a sight to see. It was like computer graphics. That I don't support Technicolor parfaits and snobby petit bourgeois is common knowledge in Oceania! Now is the time to return home to the blue sky! The confetti will dance around the shrine gates. The mailbox and the refrigerator will lead the way! Anyone who cares about expiration dates will not get in the way of the glory train! They need to fully realize the lives of the triangle rulers! Now, this festival was decided by the third grade class with the telephoto camera! Move forward! Come together! I am the ultimate governor!
>>133569595
You mean like Higurashi
>>133569908
>Kon's best work
Perfect Blue > Millennium Actress > Paprika > Tokyo Godfathers > Paranoia Agent
>>133570013
I know he only did the script, but Magnetic Rose is my favourite thing he did.
>>133570085
Kon isn't interesting for his writing, but his style, which you can't really notice from his writing alone.
Domo, Fukuicchi desu.
>>133569595
Does GG count? There's higurashi, NHK, paranoia agent and probably a load more that's forgotten to time
>>133569555
How many emo girls and overworked sararimen ended themselves here?
>>133558082
Ask Bender that question!
>shows self back to /co/
>>133570198
The screenplay for Magnetic Rose really is great, though, minus some of Kon's trademark too-clever, on-the-nose lines. And it's not like Koji Morimoto is some hack director who couldn't do it justice. I might even argue that he's better than Kon in a lot of ways.
>>133557054
You mean every harem MC?
>>133566858
>>133572652
>tumblr gif
I'm not sure what opinion you were attempting to express with your post, but regardless it has been disregarded.
![1385824004282[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vtQzpc0.jpg "1385824004282[1].jpg")
Is amnesia a mental illness?
>>133557054
Depression is boring. I wish there were more manga with protagonists who are borderline insane.
>>133564111
There was a show about it a few seasons ago
>>133573033
The one with the cute girls and the zombies?
>>133557247
how one can fuck up ending so badly? I mean in mangu
>>133572893
No, just soap opera shit.
>>133573086
No, Anime de Wakaru Shinryounaika
>>133568087
>>133568841
I was an ADD kid, I've never got into any insane shit. Though I did have more self control than other kids did. I shook my leg at most. But my brother, man that kid...
>>133573086
Seems the MC just had a mild, temporary case, nothing major
>>133573259
Ahh, been meaning to watch that. I've seen some killer webms. I didn't know it came out that recently.
>>133557054
There's a pretty good amount of series that portray certain types of psych issues, most just use it as a part of characterization rather than giving it a specific named illness and centering the entire story on it.
You usually won't get a substantial focus on that kind of thing unless you go full blown psychosis tier, which I'd really like to see done in the tasteful japanese style.
>>133557054
Isn't a large part of gakkou gurashi dealing with mental disorder
>>133557054
The anime was eh, but there was Grisaia
>>133573454
Episode 2 is making the distinction between being a 'lolicon' and being a 'pedophile.'
>>133558806
don't forget her personality disorder
