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Meido poll http://strawpoll.me/5903594
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>>133082232
why are entoma's "eyes" closed?
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First for best meido
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You guys switch between entoma and CZ every week.

Just pick one already. CZ wins for me simply because she isn't a fucking disgusting overgrown talking spider.
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>>133082232
>aspect ratio
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>>133082269
She has multiple masks
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>>133082269
why not? its a living mask
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>>133082289
Both meidos are cute, anon. No need to pick a side.
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>yfw CD is the rape daughter of the dark elf who would visit naxarick
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>yfw the sleeping player is her
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>>133082289
I refer you to the "por que no los dos" section of the waifu manifesto
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>>133082350
its supposed to have an unblinking face
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>>133082399
That picture is from when they were still in a game.
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>>133082479
oh yeah, I forget that, this is her only screen time.
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>>133082399
That doesn't preclude having a manual "close" option that requires active manipulation to achieve
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>read Magic and Knights thanks to anon rec in an Ovalload thread
>trap MC blowing everyone the fuck out because he knows programming
>the conversations with his family
>the conversations with the king
thanks anon
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>>133082232
>>133082711
Not only does hat-chan have a vampire fang what she's sitting on looks to be the same orb Shalltear collected when she took blood. Also she seems to have red eyes.

Hat-chan = vampire.
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>>133082578
Its a bug. I don't see why that part can't move. She never seems able to change her mouth from the animation though, probably to give off that 'mask' impression.
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>>133082232
>1 of the 3 Yurifags in existence rigs the poll
topkek
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>>133082764
I thought it looked a lot like momon navel orb.
I want to know what it does, I don't remember any line in the LN referring to it and saying its a WCI or what WCI Ainz has on him.
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>>133082802
It is explained in WN.It can use up to 5 levels of exp to destroy enemy weapons, it got used in thec1500 raid. For more info check japanese wikia.
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>>133082232
>http://strawpoll.me/5903594

Poor solution-chan, /a/ got no slime fetish uh
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Narberal a cute. A CUTE.
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>>133083095
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>>133083125
It's true though.
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>>133083037
>1 yuri
>2 entoma
nice proxies kids
good to know you need to fake votes just to make yourself feel like your pet favorite is popular
we all know who's the best
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>>133083176
enlighten us senpai
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Can't believe I just caught this

Volume 8, Chapter 2/2
> “You’re making too much noise. Quiet down.”
>Finally satisfied with the pose, Ainz grabbed the memo pad on the table beside him.
>“Since I’ve finished the pose… I should work on the lines while I have extra time.”

Volume 9, Chapter 1
> “―You’re making too much noise. Quiet down.”
>Like a demon king, Ainz majestically waved his left hand to motion for silence.
>Such regal movements could only have been born of long years of ruling over this domain.
>Jircniv’s alertness level went through the roof.
>I see, he has presided over this land for a long time. To think he had such a dignified bearing…

Looks like all Ainz's hard work paid off.
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Someone post a picture of Hat-Chan. I think shes a vampire.
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>>133083161
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>>133083269
Hat-chan is just a sloot
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>>133083276
Don't bait me with my waifu. That's cruel anon
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>>133083223
need you ask?
>>133083267
He could have been wearing a party hat and breakdancing naked and Jirciv would only think he was even more dastardly than he ever could imagine.
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Is it Saturday yet?
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>>133083269
No.She is a semen demon.
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Is that poll a joke?
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>>133083416
Anon, I don't know if it's always you or if another anon has the same writing habits, but you really should put spaces after your periods. It makes your writing look less intelligent when you don't.
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>>133083500
yea, some person proxy-spammed lupus and then every choice
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Just finished reading Volume 09 Chapter 01 and I'm hyped. What's going to happen in future chapters?
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>>133083628
strings getting keked and ainz slapping the empire in the face with his dick
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>134 votes for yuri

there's that one roleplaying yurifag, i know you're responsible for this senpai
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>>133082737
No problem. Unfortunately once you catch up if you haven't already I have no idea when Sky's gonna continue cause volume 3 left off where you just wanna see Eru's toybox in action.

Personally I really loved how they made the duke a red herring. The set up was glorious.
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>>133083628
Have you been avoiding spoilers until now?
If so I don't want to ruin it. The whole volume, maybe the whole series up to this point, has been building up to chapter 4.
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>>133083645
To be fair, the next chapter is going to be a little dull.
Lost of puppets who don't know their strings are already cut, etc.
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>>133083702
Er, Lots*
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>>133082737
>trap MC blowing everyone
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>>133083628
Chapter 2 will take a look at how Gazef regretting he didn't spec into charisma and now has to watch as the crew steers the damn ship up a mountain.
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>>133083786
It's basically the story of a whole bunch of people who don't know they're dead yet and Raeven being moe as fuck.
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>>133082289
This Entoma bullying needs to end
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>>133083663

The heck how did this happen. I'm the Yurifag that wrote the 2, newborn and 3 yr old in Nazarick and that cyoa.

Not me I only voted once.

O Noes! Us Yurifags will be branded as dishonourable!
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>>133083628
Jircniv: what's the next step of your master plan?
Ainz: Dropping darkness, with no survivors!
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>>133083822
Way I see it Raeven is pretty much the Kingdom's Jircniv.
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>>133083822
imagine being one of those nobles
imagine all the shittalking you've done
imagine how it turned out
imagine not even knowing what happened
imagine being the guy who was just outside the area of effect
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>>133083868
I want to see Entoma finally break down and cry in front of new worlders when they say something about what a hideous abomination she is.

And then papa bones pat her head and comfort her while the scrubs who don't know they're dead yet look on in confusion.
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>>133083937
well he is one of the two in the whole of kingdom that knows renner a shit
I wonder if he's going to do anything ever or he's just going to be 'that noble guy' until the story ends.
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>>133083983
He doesn't really have much he can do now that Reneer and Demi are pulling the strings. I mean sure, he gets more power at the end, but that don't mean much.

And let's face it, he's probably in a better position than Jircniv right now. At least he doesn't have to worry about getting killed by giant goats.
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Let's retry the poll. poal.me/1rpkd7
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>>133083955
It'll be the rematch between Evileye and Entoma.
She'll reveal her vampiric nature and apologize and Entoma forgives her sliently, before PA kills her with a Luger with a silver bullet. In the form of Momon.
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>>133083267

Is there a DnD class for bullshitting?
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>>133083095
Would inseminate for the purpose of procreation
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>>133084032
I'm just happy thinking about all the people who live like in the next town over of E-Rantel when they hear what happens. Imagine just hearing out of nowhere that the city next to you is suddenly like that.
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>>133084037
>vampire
>silver bullet
I think you're confused.
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>>133084035
People'll just proxy this one too
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>>133083983
If anything he'll join Ainz side since he always on the winning team. He's also good at reading people unlike Jircniv who's mind is clouded by schemes. If he joins Ainz he might be the first one who can actually understand what Ainz is actually thinking.
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You guys wouldn't REALLY have sex with your own creations would you? I mean, you'd treat them as your daughteru and not some semen dump to satisfy your nightly lust right? RIGHT?
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>>133084131
When Albedo literally jumped him he said something like "I would have fucked her then if I hadn't have touched her settings" or something.
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>>133084131
Anon, if these are MY creations we're talking about, the vast majority of them will be semen dumps from the start.
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>>133084131
I'd fuck PA if I was Ainz.
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>>133084061
take ranks in diplomacy
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>>133083937
Raeven is actually a pretty decent guy, just like Jircniv, he actually takes Gazef seriously and once he realizes what he's facing he immediately orders his troops to fall back.

Not that it helps.

>>133083941
Their reaction is pretty much AAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE *splat*

>>133084037
>PA with a Divine-class Luger
>Not a Nazarickjugend knife with Mein Ehre ist Treue carved on it

>>133084120
He gets chased by a Dark Young for a disappointingly short period of time before you'll find out in chapter 4
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>>133084131
No. I would also take my meido on deitos and adventure with them
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>>133083267
Neat, I missed that.
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>>133084072

They probably have relatives living in there.

I am not suprised when news reached E-Rantel that they are now taken over and their new rulers are monsters. It triggered a mass wave of refugees
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>>133084213
>>133083267
I'm glad people noticed it.
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>Reasons to live
>KOTAE WA DOKO EEEEEEE
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>>133084131
i would!
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>>133084247
No, actually. The tradesmen have to start again in other places and they'll die in poverty there.
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>>133084105
I want to believe no one will, anon.
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>>133084131
>you'd treat them as your daughteru and not some semen dump to satisfy your nightly lust right?
Since when are the two mutually exclusive?
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>>133084247
They will bear with it for their hero Momon s sake.Why do you think Ainz-sama created him?
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>>133084131
>implying i won't program them to molest me
and obviously im playing female character
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>>133084169
>>133084187
>>133084304
Anons, you're such a disappointment
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>>133084131

>have sex with your own creations

if i'm blessed with the ability to be able to make a perfect living creature, i'll surely use them all to it's fullest
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>>133084131
I forgot these lines in the LN but I saw the opening to ep5 of the anime and he tells albedo he altered the settings and she says tabula would approve and she was fine with it. I don't think if I'm a skelly I'm going to care about sex anymore anyways, so when you become a skeleton oneday you tell me how you feel.
>>133084256
It's a really weird feeling when you think about dying and remember that you'll never see the end of One Piece if you do. When I think of all the people who died waiting years for the ending to their favorite stories that never end I get a bit sad.
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>>133084196
>Raeven is actually a pretty decent guy, just like Jircniv, he actually takes Gazef seriously and once he realizes what he's facing he immediately orders his troops to fall back.
>Not that it helps.


Yeah decent, but he should have taken Gazef seriously right from the start. Or at least ask Reneer about it. Then again Reneer probably baited him into being stupid huh?
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>>133084361
Are you implying you wouldn't fuck PA?
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>>133084331
>Play as an incredibly attractive female character
>Make up a harem of male creations desperately trying to get in your panties

I could see at least half of /a/ trying this. Maybe 2/3.
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>>133084398
>Limiting it to male
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>>133084361
I bet Touch Me fiddled his daughter
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>>133084398
Well most of us are lolis anyway, anon. Of course we would make a 100% accurate avatar to be molested.
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>>133084398
>inb4 succubus overlord ainz
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>>133084418
A harem of both genders, and they don't mind sharing or working together if it means coming up with foolproof plans to take your virginity.
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>>133084388
He did take Gazef seriously, but he's just one guy out of 6 great nobles. His flaw was that his imagination wasn't wild enough.

>>133084398
I would make a hot shapeshifting shoggoth sloot who'll fuck anyone (but give me priority) >for free and has a cheerful tomboyish personality.
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>>133084479
>>133084447
Most of the BS seem great for that actually.

Take hat-chan, the trap, and clem's brother and you've already got a decent-sized harem.
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>>133084519
>hat-chan
>trap
>Clem's bro

Marvellous taste anon, all you're missing is Angel-chan.
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>>133084479
>His flaw was that his imagination wasn't wild enough.

There's something very wrong with this considering they just have a difficulty level 200 demon set fire to their capital and kidnap a massive chunk of their populace while shitting on the defense force like nothing until Momon came along.

I mean regardless if he connects the dots or not, wouldn't a person like him wanna play it safe and elaborate on that point?
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>>133084550
angel-chan looks great and all but as she's shown I'm not that into her

maybe make her a dom or something
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>>133084519
>>133084550
Clem's bro is for hugs.
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>>133084604
I wonder if he has the same tendencies as his sister.

It'd be fun to tie him up and tease his dick until he's begging to cum, then you lock yourself on him and let him rip.

Then you hold his hand and tell him how beautiful your children will look.
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>>133084131
No one ever jerked off for their own creations in CM3D, AA, or any other costimizable hentai game, right?
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>>133084573
He did assume Ainz could take out 10k people in one shot. The problem was that Ainz could take out 20x that amount.

>>133084599
I want to defile and corrupt a virginal maiden and see her cute attempts to sate her consuming lust.

>>133084604
>>133084676
Maybe he's the opposite, he's shy and cute like Mare.
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No matter what, Ainz will always be a dense beta throughout the entire story.

It's funny how flustered he gets when he finds out that Tabula and Perononchino jerked it to their creations. Nobody else would be surprised in the slightest.
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>>133084820
I think I'm too subby to be able to properly get off to something unless there's at least one dick in or near me that isn't my own.
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>>133084831
Ainz-sama is pure shut up
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>>133084770
Yggdrasil isn't a hentai game
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>>133084820
He's a siscon.
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>>133084896
Get Jircniv and dress him up as Clem.

They all look pretty similar.
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>>133084820
>He did assume Ainz could take out 10k people in one shot. The problem was that Ainz could take out 20x that amount.

But how does that mean the Kingdom still had a chance? Didn't Gazef let him know that he would already find it hard to beat the Death Knight? Even assuming Ainz was as weak as Raeven thought he was, it's still a guaranteed loss in battle.

It's not like the Kingdom ever won a decisive victory over the Empire to begin with, and now you got this guy who can make a minion capable of fighting Gazef. Just what was their grand plan to somehow shut down a magic caster when there's a shit ton of Empire knights cock blocking the way? They couldn't even handle the Empire alone with Gazef, how does it not tip the scales with imaginary gimp Ainz?
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>>133084887
Nor was a bunch of rpg before modding.
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>>133084879
>pure
>killed thousands
>commands legion of horrors that also command even more horrors
>has The Worst Five if those horrors aren't enough
>kidnaps little girls and tours them through his literal hellscape
>barely convinces himself to save a village because Sebas reminds him of touch me
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>>133085064
I told you, right? He's one guy out of 6, all the other nobles were dismissing Ainz as some madman. They all think mages are parlor tricksters.

>>133084852
You slut. Get over here and moisturize my genitals.
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>>133085165
>They all think mages are parlor tricksters
I don't get this part when the mages guild is so damn rich. The nobles probably have plenty in their employ, at least a few must be 3rd tier and the scrolls themselves should be fairly useful if they have to sell them all the damn time and can still afford to charge tons for them.
Sounds like bullshit comrade. These are the people who let the Eight whatevers fuck around and sell drugs though so who knows.
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>>133082232
I guess I can kind of understand Yuri, but what the fuck is Entoma doing in 2nd place?
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>>133085273
The nobles are fucking retarded, that's why. Ainz did the Kingdom a favor by killing 90% of them.
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>>133085273
They were more focused on drugs and whores than magic. At most they know about holy magic because it is used to heal whores.
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>>133085301
Yuri had almost no votes until she gained 100+ instantly. Entoma got that way with little to no proxies involved.
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>>133085165
That wasn't what I meant. I was wondering why Raeven even thought he stood a chance to begin with. Being forced into something and preparing every possible escape route and such sounds a lot more enticing than being forced into something and optimistically hoping for a miracle.

At least, that's how I would envision Jircniv doing it if he was in Raeven's position. You might not be the captain, but you sure as hell can put the life boats near your spot.
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>>133085124
Pure evil!
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>>133085379
Like I said, his imagination wasn't vivid enough. He could only imagine Ainz as a guy who could kill 10k people, which is already a huge stretch considering everyone else valued Ainz at 2.5k or less.

He does bitterly regret his decision right before a Dark Young reaches for him.
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>>133085379
He's in the situation Jirciv is in, it just didn't go as well. Jirciv lived and maintained sanity through years of being confident in political ability. Even after he saw the nazarekt he still was simply lacking information so he had no chance of making any sound plan. It's just simply out of the realm of possibility.
Its like saying 'well I know cars are dangerous I'll keep skates nearby to get away if one comes too close'
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So where's all this "lawful evil genius princess matching wits with demi-kun" coming from? I read everything that has been translated thus far and I'm not seeing it. Raws?
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>>133085512
>lawful evil
What? She seemed more like a Chaotic Good to me.
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>>133085537
That's just her facade.
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>>133085512
>lawful evil genius princess
Renner isn't lawful evil I don't know why you got that impression.

If we want to give her a D&D thing it'd be chaotic good probably, or chaotic neutral. She's pretty crazy but sort of cares about the well being of people.

If she never got MUH PRINCESS to shlick off to she might have become chaotic evil.
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>>133082232
Reminder that CZDelta won the first maid poll.
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>>133085467
>>133085473

But that's what I meant in my previous post. Demiurge's antics should have ramped up his imagination ten fold. Like if you lived in a forest for 10 years and thought it was safe then a tiger shows up wrecking shit in your village, are you seriously gonna underestimate a bear that shows up next?

I dunno if that analogy was good or not, but there's something off about that to me. Maybe he isn't as big a coward as I thought. Guess Brain truly is a genius, he valued living right from the start.
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>>133085512
It's not spelled out. The major pieces of evidence are:

- Demi saying there's an interesting person in the Kingdom
- Renner meeting someone in her room (two cups of tea when she's alone, she didn't answer the door right away)
- Demi absolutely forbids the killing of one person in particular during Operation Gehenna
- Chair breaks off her pursuit of Demi when she sees Climb
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>>133085595
Derp, I mean, her pursuit of Brain
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>you are one of the supreme beings who didn't log out when server stopped working
what do you do?
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>>133085512
Her introduction scene in vol.5, she's stated by the author as 'intelligence on par with demi' and its expounded on a little when she deciphers the cipher nigh instantly for Lakyus. I think its the same scene.
If you mean meeting with her, it was just good speculah before but he straight out mentions her in v9c1.
>>133085582
>sort of cares about the well being of people.
haha no
She doesn't view people as people, she's like narb in that way. She even views Climb as her puppy and her desire is to 'keep him chained up'
She's Lawful Neutral if there is such a thing.
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>>133085595
>- Renner meeting someone in her room (two cups of tea when she's alone, she didn't answer the door right away)

I never got the first part. I've read that volume 5 times now, and every damn time the extra tea cup part is mentioned during the Lakyus scene, while the scene where Reneer didn't answer the door doesn't mention anything about teacups at all.

I am quite confident in this because I actually tried looking it up specifically for this example but failed to find it. That said the rest is all correct.
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>>133085595
see >>133085625
you missed when he straight out says Golden princess and I think Shalltear talks about recruiting her or something lewd even mentioning her name
Renner.
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>>133085593
Well, Ainz Ooal Gown is not a demon lord. Gazef himself couldn't explain how Ainz took out the SS and he didn't actually see the death knight at work (he might have thought it was a buffed up skelly)

Gazef did not see much and could not convince any of the nobles of what he saw. All he had was his warrior's instinct amd the nobles laughed that off. They all hate him, remember?
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>>133085621
Broroncino and I fuck every single NPC in Nazarick. Then maybe we conquer some land before retiring with our eclectic harem.
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>>133085649
>>133085636

Oh yeah, I forgot in v9c1 Demi flat out says that Renner has a bargain to keep with him. I hope it ends in RotI mindbreak dickings.
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>>133085625
Lack of compassion is an evil trait. So's wanting to chain up her limiter and have fun with it.

I think it's fairly obvious that she's lawful, now it just needs to be established that she's evil.
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>>133085621
Ask chair to rape me
Masochist here
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>>133085837
but it's not rape if you want it
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>>133085832
You just established that she's evil. She's a sociopath who literally fed redshirts to the killbots to reach their kill limit and ordered Climb to commit suicide for her sake because she would gain glory or a sex toy either way.
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>>133085837
PS.Female character
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>>133085837
>ask her to rape you
>you get into it, begging her to stop
>she immediately prostrates before you, apologising profusely
Life is suffering as a submissive Supreme Being
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>>133085884

Oh yeah wanting Climb to die simply because she wanted to nurture him while he was recovering from the resurrection was pretty obvious.
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>>133085910
>implying i wouldn't tell her to ignore it
>inb4 safewords
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We haven't gotten a list of the WCI stored in Nazarick and what they do, have we?
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>>133085926
Climb's got a ring now, I wonder what she thinks about that?
>>133085973
There's more in the WN but the LN changed a lot of shit so don't expect much.
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>>133085973
Not all of them. Ainz explicitly draws out a few but not all of them.
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>>133085928
you sure of it? i don't think she'll be able to control herself
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>>133086021
She probably has a lust frenzy that works like blood frenzy.
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>>133085682
I'm not talking about convincing the nobles, but Raeven. The Kingdom's strongest warrior just encountered a giant 3 meter tall demon minion that belonged to a difficulty 200 demon and had to team up with countless adventurers just to wound it enough to force it to flee.

Wouldn't you as Marquis Raeven trust this guy's gut instinct when he says "Yeah, I think Ainz is scarier than that giant fucker we almost got wiped out by. I was practically shitting my pants when he suggested he was gonna resist by force."

The other 5 nobles don't matter to what I'm saying. Fuck their armies. It's mostly how Raeven didn't invest more resources into his army's survival. He could have opened up his fat wallet and hired a bunch of magic casters just for the sake of using those floating boards and flying the hell away with his orichalcum party. Granted the goats probably still would have caught them but that's about as best as Raeven could manage.

Course if Gazef was so retarded and inarticulate he couldn't even convince Raeven because he kept doubting himself that's another matter. But I think if we put Brain in the position of Gazef and Sebas in the position of Ainz, Brain would sperg out ten fold and go sell off his shit to buy some sleipnirs to run away with for him and Climb. And it's not like Sebas had a more impressive showing than Ainz since Zero was someone Brain could actually beat.
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>>133086035
>>133086021
im all her's
she won't kill me because i am supreme being, right?
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>>133085301
Entoma is pretty unique and stands out a lot because of it.
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>Ainz gonna start a fucking war and kill thousands just to spread his name for the miniscule chance that he gets to see one of his friends again
I don't know about them but I would be pretty pissed if I found out that my friend walked over a mountain of corpses just to meet me.
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>>133082232
>constantly joking about le three yurifags
>suddenly 140
Literally why would you do this, it ruins the reputation of all other yurifags.
Unless you thought that far ahead already it must be so, Sasuga
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>>133086130
>not wetting yourself at your friend s hardwork
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>>133086035
Love Juice Frenzy.
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>>133086040
Raeven spent years going to war, he spent years ducking political sludgeballs and is probably the 2nd/3rd most competent politician in the nation if you count Renner and the 2nd Prince. The best he's heard of magic casters was Fluder. He's thinking in Fluders. Thats why he fucked up, like Jir he thought he knew enough to bet his life and he just didn't.
>>133086130
He just really didn't mind at that point, Demi had laid down a shitbrick and he was too scared to do anything to tell him he's wrong and his desire to go with the flow prevailed. Humans were insects to him since Cairne Village so the whole killing mirillons isn't a big deal to him. The friends are.
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>>133083916
>implying
Jircniv: what's the next step of your master plan?
Ainz: I have no fucking idea I'm trying to be a nice guy here -
Jircniv: I see, you plan to drop darkness with no survivors! What an EVIL bastard you are!
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>>133086071
>any other NPC goes to chair's room to ask her something
>sees her raping supreme being
Their reaction would be fucking hilarious
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How the fuck do you pronounce the Emperor's name?
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>>133086040
But Marquis Raeven did trust him. It's just that the Empire declared war on the Kingdom, so backing out is not an option at all. The Empire declaring war is the one thing that can unite the entire Kingdom and anyone who backs out is going to be labelled a traitor, the same way the lizardmen alliance in v4 would kill any tribe that didn't join them.

So at this point fighting is inevitable. Raeven could not imagine Ainz would be so powerful that an army of 250k would lose to him and Gazef could not describe Ainz's power well enough for him to come to that conclusion. Remember, even to Raeven, Ainz is just "some guy the Kingdom is using as a casus belli".

Nobody knows Ainz's true power. Not even Raeven or Jircniv or Renner. It's like expecting a rabbit to know that humans can drop a nuke on it.
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>>133086271
ger (as in Germany) - sniv
I think.
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>>133086296
I always pronounced it like Jerkneev. Like the katakana says.
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>>133086138

I'm not impressed with rigged votes...

We need a re-count.
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>>133084887
Nor is Skyrim, but hell if my characters don't take bandit dick on a regular basis.
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>>133084131
>You guys wouldn't REALLY have sex with your own creations would you?
If Peperonchino was there he'd be having orgies with Shalltear and her vampire brides all day 'erry day.
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>>133086335
I must knkw which mods these are so I can avoid their moral degeneracy.
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>>133086257
>inb4 its lupus
>she joins the fun
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>According to the person who’s actually seen it, the strong magic guarding the
grimoire (Nameless Spellbook) prevents anyone without a strong sense of justice from touching it.
means that those with -500 or 500 sense of justice can use it, right?
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>>133085273
The nobles are very nearly clinically retarded that's sort of the point. They feel that it is more productive to circlejerk and punch each other in the face and generally make the Kingdom more and more shit when the Theocracy has at least twelve equivalents to your top warrior and the Empire is hacking away at your borders with minimal losses and is instituting wide reforms
It's like they think that once they get annexed by Jircnev they'll keep their positions unlike Arche's dad (who they bear a striking resemblance to) or even better think that once they're on top the Kingdom will recieve a miracle and suddenly fuck the Empire sideways.
>>133086352
Literally just giggle LoversLab Skyrim, you have to make an acc with a throwaway to download anything though.
Of course, pure anon wouldn't do anything like that...right?
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>>133086234
>The best he's heard of magic casters was Fluder. He's thinking in Fluders.

Oh that clears it all up. I guess he thought Ainz would go oom?

>>133086272
Wait so before when Empire had the annual shit flinging at Katze Plains that wasn't declaring war? Really?

I wasn't suggesting Raeven back out. I was suggesting he prepare to keep his army intact by drilling them and and preparing whatever necessities, and at the very least keep him and his elites alive should shit hit the fan.

There's no way a guy who weasels his way between 2 factions for ages can't manage to do that. This is no different than when you play MMOs and go raid with your guild knowing you're gonna wipe, but not going will lose DKP, so you prepare all sorts of clever shit like swapping out armor/weapons whenever possible, using your skills and consumables to GTFO to safety before an eminent wipe, etc etc.

>Gazef could not describe Ainz's power well enough for him to come to that conclusion.

So it's as I suspected. He's pretty much Xu Chu tier without the periods. No wait, Xu Chu at least learned from his brother and Cao Cao. I just realized that despite Gazef being so well mannered he truly is an idiot when it comes to talking.

Reneer probably has the greatest grasp given her intellect + meeting with Demi Demi.
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>>133086424
The general mood is that "we'll fuck them up once and for all with our 4:1 military advantage!"

They have never raised 250k people before, they sincerely think they can stomp the Empire with that.

Also I haven't touched Skyrim in forever. And of course I would never fap to my character slutting it up in the snow.
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>>133085593
You don't get it. Imagine that FSN Berserker shows up outta nowhere. Now your imagination for 'realistic' has been ramped up a hundredfold. The next enemy is a non-jobbing Gilgamesh with Kumagawa and Medaka at his side and Accelerator and Uchiha Madara as advance guard.
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>>133086424
There are also versions of that mod that exist if you prefer Chair over Albedo.
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>>133085625
>Lawful neutral
She's obviously Chaotic Neutral or Neutral Evil. Evil is selfishness but her 'affection' for Climb might make it neutral instead of evil. She adheres to no laws or self-set restrictions at all.
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>>133086508
>non-jobbing Gilgamesh

Poor example right there. That thing is simply unfathomable. Wait, maybe it is indeed the perfect example, because no one could possibly think that that is even possible. So it's actually understandable for Raeven to dismiss any shred of possibility in it.
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>>133086130
Just waiting for Touch Me to walk out heaven's door to smite Aniz.
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>>133086508
The scale difference doesn't matter, because the 3 meter demon was already strong enough that Fluder would probably lose to it given how much he struggled against a mere death knight. It took almost an entire battalion's worth of adventures with high tier ones included just to force it to run, not kill it.

It doesn't matter how low they rated Ainz, a bear never has to fear a tiger, but even if you treat a bear like a tiger you are already well versed in survival methods.

I'm not saying he would have succeeded, refer to my posts above. I'm saying he didn't even try. Of course he didn't know trying wouldn't matter, but it's silly that he didn't try at all.

Well, until I was told that Gazef is really bad at talking. That cleared up any doubts over how it happened. Can't trust a guy who doesn't know how to get his point across after all.
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>>133085621
be even more perverted than Broroncino and chair put together
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>>133085621
Win ainzbowl
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>>133086619
I think he just imagined that, facing another Jaldaboath, he could at least get away or something.
I don't fucking know.
Gazef is basically Lu Meng before he became educated, or how Lu Bu is usually depicted instead of the at least passably intelligent person he probably was. Gazef is strong but a moralfag and more importantly is stupid. See his determination to protect Carne despite knowing that the Kingdom would implode without him boosting King's credibility.
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>Jircniv “Fluder, contain yourself.”
>“Don’t forget your position, Fluder. We’re here as representatives of the Empire, not to satisfy your thirst for magical knowledge.”
>Jircniv suspect Fluder for betrayal because he contained himself.

This fuck.
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>>133086495
>250k peasants, lined up for a pitched battle
Literally 'what is strategy' tier
Fuck the Empire could just turtle there and wait for their rations to run out and for deserters to number in tens of thousands before attacking, where are they getting the rations for 250k poorly armed poorly armored peasants anyway?
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>>133086701
Fluder DID betray the Empire, and it's not that one little thing but rather how Jircnev realized Fluder knew too much and seemed to be too cognizant of everything going on. Fluder being the inside man also solves the issue of how Ainz figured out it was Empire's workers almost instantly despite degrees of seperation.
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>>133086735
I know, I just find it bullshit that this NW Lelouch manage to connect all the dots because Fluder contained himself which he ordered.
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>>133086598
>>133086619
To look at that example given, Gazef would probably phrase it like -
>there's this dude with lots of gold and stuff and flying swords and the swords explode but there's spears too, he could probably kill the big giant from last time, maybe, and yeah he's like dangerous, sort of
>this one guy who's creepy as shit and he's just a bad man but he can make things disappear too, like POOF and he doesn't die and gets up all tired, he always loses though
etc.
You see how it might be unconvincing.
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>>133086708
You know I hadn't really thought about it until now but 250k in the field at the same time is ridiculous.
I don't think it was until the end of the nineteenth century that we were doing that.
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>>133086661
>I think he just imagined that, facing another Jaldaboath, he could at least get away or something.

I don't think that's possible, given how Jaldaboath and Momon's fight decimated the capital and even Blue Rose was on the verge of being wiped out before Darkness showed up.

That said, I guess I had this wrong impression about Gazef because his stoic yet talkative nature made me think he picked up a few things during court.
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>>133084196
>Mein Ehre ist Treue carved on it
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>>133086802
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Changping

#1 general coming through.
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>>133086791
Fluder is like a bitch in heat, they cant contain themselves.
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>>133086791
Nah I think it's reasonable.
He also realizes that Fluder calls him 'most exalted of all magic casters'...implying he knows who Ainz is somehow.
>>133086802
The bigger issue is rations. Can you fucking imagine the rations issue? Where the fuck are they getting and storing this food? They didn't even need Ainz this time around, the fuckers defeated themselves.
Not to mention, how do you control and formation that group? Of course, they don't, but still
And any number of peasants still die against a wall of heavy knights, and the peasants HAVE TO CHARGE because they're RUNNING OUT OF FOOD.
Literally beyond stupid.
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>>133086819
Though a divine-class Luger would be the perfect weapon for him fluffwise.
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>>133086833
>one source
>on a battle that happened almost two thousand three hundred years ago
That's like quoting Herodotus on the numbers of the Persian army.
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>>133086130

It's a combination of him being a lich and being the typical mmo autist.

Some would find that impressive, but it's also a sign that his humanity has pretty much evaporated.

I think that in the end, Albedo will be the downfall of Ainz and AoG in the new world. Something will happen through her love for Ainz that will start an avalanche of shit.

When Ainz had changed her settings in Yggrdasil, he became her co-creator, and she ended up taking in some of his personality. Ainz harbors a bit of resentment for his guildies leaving him and Nazarick, which was evident right after Herohero logged off. Now that resentment is a part of Albedo, which we read about when she tore down the AoG banner and started stomping on it.
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>>133086833
China doesn't count. Everything besides penis size is like fifty times larger in China. Fuck's sake the Emperor decided for his servants to DIG HIM A LAKE to take a swim in and PILE THE DIRT INTO A MOUNTAIN so he could take a stroll.
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>>133086565
>no laws
>I want climb to be on a leash
>>133086661
>he's stupid
Sums up the kingdom really. They got all the shitty stuff no one wanted. Doesn't seem like there's much player residue there either. Maybe thats why? Maybe each country got players when they were total shit to change the nation for the better?
>>133086701
Seems reasonable with the FIVE DK BREAKFAST
>>133086792
>yeah I was going to die fighting a superior enemy to stall them for a bit even though I know killing me was their main objective. I couldn't let the village die, despite being one of the Kingdoms best soldiers worthy of assassination.
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>>133084887
Overlord is an Adventure manga.
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>>133086353
Im not even mad
>imagine being molested and raped by shalltear and lupus
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>>133086893
>no laws
>I want Climb to be on a leash
Lawful Evil implies that Renner herself follows rules of some sort, be it a personal moral code or simply the actual law.
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>>133086855
>he just turns his hand into a luger then uses his real ability from his King of Castle Fortress to tank your attack with clones
>he keeps making BANG sounds while pointing the gun at you while you try to hit his illusions
>he does this for hours until you give up
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>>133086864
Zhao was huge at the time. It was literally Chu at the time except up north. Then it shrank instantly after that battle.

The biggest evidence is how the excavation of the temple built during the Tang dynasty there to honor the dead for that battle still produce new corpse/bone findings to this very day. They found shit loads, enough to believe it was around that number.

It's pretty much Zhao's version of the Terracotta army or elephant graveyard.

>>133086878
I'm just saying, Bai Qi wouldn't have fucked up like Raeven did. You don't go undefeated for almost 100 battles and take chances.
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>>133086958
>then the real PA hits you with a dive-bombing in his Ju87
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>>133086983
Yeah China in general is absolutely retarded in its population size and deaths during war. It's probably because unlike Europe they tend to be at peace more or less for a few hundred years then explode into war like a barrel of nitroglycerin.
>>133086983
>I'm just saying, Bai Qi wouldn't have fucked up like Raeven did.
Yeah but Zhao Kuo sure did.
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>>133084131
I'd make it a mandate to fuck Demiurge every day.

I don't know why Ainz doesn't have PA turn into a bath slime.
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>>133086870
Oh fuck that would be a good twist. Albedo always seems to be able to 'read' Ainz emotions so maybe she's picking up on something he doesn't. Well, nothing good can come from her having access to PA when he's so lonely and has transformation abilities and Rubedo who's rogue.
>>133086983
>Overlord Thread
>Chinese Military History, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and Nazi Era Germany discussion
There is a history board now you know
>>133087013
>slime with an SS hat
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>>133086983
>comparing Spring and Autumn Zhao to Spring and Autumn Chu
Look man, if they don't know Zhao they don't know Chu.
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>>133087036
>slime with an SS hat
>yeah the lower beings that invaded last time, some of them looked like this after spending some time in the oven
>Guren spat out a few that looked like this too
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>>133086870
Fuck. This seem likely. And she has PA with her who may share same hate!
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>>133086424
This guy has it spot on. For the most part the Kingdom's nobles are selfish retards who are exploiting the common man to satisfy their egos and boners.

>>133086473
What passes for war between the Kingdom and the Empire is basically the national equivalent of slapfighting. Empire forms up 40k men, Kingdom forms up 150k men, the Empire makes a small charge, the Kingdom takes it, then both sides withdraw because honor has been satisfied.

Seriously.

The Kingdom nobles now think war is just a matter of forming up and showing the cowardly Imperials they mean business. The Imperials don't mind because they have fewer troops to feed and it's part of Jircniv's keikaku (this will be addressed later).

>>133086619
The scale difference DOES matter. Remember that the adventurers did manage to beat off that demon in the end, and to Raeven, Ainz is no demon, just a magic caster. Even if Gazef goes "he beat the Sunlight Scripture!", Raeven can't draw any conclusions from that because he doesn't know how strong those guys are.

As for protecting his army, how exactly do you do that short of immediately retreating the moment you see him (which he did) or not fighting at all (not an option given the circumstances)? Because those are the only two survival methods that apply to someone like Ainz.

More to the point, even if he assumed that Ainz was a super demon in combat, they still have 250k people, it's possible he assumed they could have worn him down eventually. Remember, the Kingdom has been slapfighting on a national level for the past few years, they don't know what real war is.
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>>133083267
Holy shit! This is great! Can´t believe i missed this.
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>Not only are there other Yurifags, but they are dominating the poll
Am I actually asleep right now? Someone respond with something profound.
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>>133087036
>There is a history board now you know
Wait really?
>/his/ - History and Humanities
THANK YOU NIPPONMOOT
it's getting invaded by /pol/ and /int/ isn't it
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>>133087012
There's always the Russell Peters theory, small penis = more effort in fucking = impregnate more. Kinda like rabbits and mice. I mean that's why India is 2nd right?

I wouldn't put Raeven as low as Zhao Kuo though, he's kinda in the middle. I mean Zhao Kuo literally got duped, decided to hold out for reinforcements and supplies, then just said fuck it after him and his men are so starved they probably couldn't even shit anymore trying to escape. He's practically Andrew Fork's ancestor.
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>>133086661
Pretty much this. Raeven assumed that in the worst case scenario they could order a retreat and Ainz wouldn't be able to kill all of them. It's mainly because the Empire was declaring war on them and they assumed that he was just an excuse for the war and no real threat.

And Gazef's main motivation is MUH KING and his compassion. So maybe not Lu Bu. But the basic assessment of a strong, stupid moralfag is right.

>>133086846
As I said in >>133087088, this is where the Empire's keikaku comes in.

The Empire always declares war in fall, just before the harvest season. This means the Kingdom conscripts their able young men as soldiers during the harvest months, which cripples their ability to provide food. To feed them, they increase taxes and tithes, depleting the peoples' food stores even further.

Jircniv has been doing this for several years now and it's forced the Kingdom to the verge of economic ruin. This is why the Empire does slapfighting, because half of their aim is accomplished as long as the Kingdom shows up, and as long as the Kingdom thinks the Empire is weak and makes a habit of mustering all their farmers to fight the Empire, the Empire is indirectly eroding the Kingdom's national power every year.

>>133086508
And this guy describes it perfectly. Ainz is an out of context problem. Nobody like him has ever appeared before and there is no way for them to prepare for him.
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>>133087139
>got duped
He was just incompetent in general
>oh yeah sure charging their base camp makes a lot of sense
>surely the nation famous for crossbows and light cav. won't fuck me over
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>>133087088
>More to the point, even if he assumed that Ainz was a super demon in combat, they still have 250k people, it's possible he assumed they could have worn him down eventually.

But they've always fielded 250k people per year. And they couldn't even take on 20k knights from the Empire.
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>>133087151
>The Empire always declares war in fall, just before the harvest season. This means the Kingdom conscripts their able young men as soldiers during the harvest months, which cripples their ability to provide food. To feed them, they increase taxes and tithes, depleting the peoples' food stores even further.
>Jircniv has been doing this for several years now and it's forced the Kingdom to the verge of economic ruin. This is why the Empire does slapfighting, because half of their aim is accomplished as long as the Kingdom shows up, and as long as the Kingdom thinks the Empire is weak and makes a habit of mustering all their farmers to fight the Empire, the Empire is indirectly eroding the Kingdom's national power every year.
That's actually my point >>133086846
They DON'T have the rations, and 250k men in fighting means they need 250k worth of rations - they haven't been producing a surplus for the past several years, these are rations they don't have
I'm saying that even without Ainz, the Empire would've trumped a huge decisive victory because of the lack of rations on the peasant side and the ability of heavily armored knights with bowmen backup to just sit there and wait for them to charge or starve.
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>>133087151
>But the basic assessment of a strong, stupid moralfag is right.

The guy who stole Lu Bu's horse pretty much fits that. He just didn't die against an overwhelmingly superior opponent, just someone smarter.
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>>133087168
In the past, they fielded 150k to the EMpire's 40k. And they've never really fought, because Jircniv won't allow it and because they just want to make the Kingdom conscript their farmers instead of letting them farm.
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>>133087088
>Raeven
I think Ainz should make him a vampire just because he has a cool name. Build him a castle and shit for shits and giggles.
>>133087117
Just imagine Lupus
Just imagine her
She takes off the hat
And on her head are no ears.
>>133087126
I just assumed it was and didn't bother.
>>133087139
fucking russell peters, he's so good at making fun of entire cultures.
>>133087157
You know anything about the American Civil War?
>yeah well, we want to take that hill, we can do it
>boy thats a lot of dead people
>guess we better keep charging that hill
>>133087168
I thought another anon said they never fielded that much? Ah the wait for saturday.
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>>133087117

Poll is rigged hard. I am watching it. Entoma and Narberal tied. CZ and Lupu below them.
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>>133087190
Magic can create shitty food for farmers that dont get killed in war.
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>>133087192
That does make sense. The mole among the 6 nobles would probably ensure they don't try committing a fight either even when the odds might have favored them.
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>>133087197
>I thought another anon said they never fielded that much? Ah the wait for saturday.

I missed it apparently. If it's only 150k vs 40k it's more understandable. Man when I thought how 250k couldn't even muster up the guts to swarm 20k I just couldn't see the logic.
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>>133087190
Without Ainz, the Empire would have worn the Kingdom down to nothing, yes. It's just that the Kingdom's nobles are gloryhounding retards

The King actually has a nervous breakdown when Panasolei (E-Rantel's mayor) lays the situation out to him in black and white.

Ironically, this only makes him more determined to fight because he thinks that if only he can smash the Empire in battle (gambler's fallacy), the Kingdom will have peace for a few years and they can make up the shortfall.

>>133087220
Magic is expensive, though, and a few hundred, maybe a couple of thousand mages probably can't make enough food for several hundred thousand.
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>>133087197
>You know anything about the American Civil War?
>>yeah well, we want to take that hill, we can do it
>>boy thats a lot of dead people
>>guess we better keep charging that hill
As I understand that charge is usually regarded to be stupid.
>>133087191
Guan Yu actually wasn't stupid if that's who you're pointing to, he died because Wu betrayed him and there was a legit good strategist on the other side making things work. The bigger issue
>>133087220
Can they actually get enough mages to supply the 250k sitting there though? That's the issue. Without food to eat in camp they're liable to either just run away or become restless and want to charge, because they can go home afterwards. The longer they wait the hungrier they are the worse off they are too. It's like hiring five times the number of mercenaries you can hire in CK2, oh sure you'll win the BATTLE, if your troops don't run away or all die from morale loss because you're dead broke.
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>>133087190
Maybe they buy food from the theocracy. Trade has to exist between the nations.
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>>133087260
Another thing is that the mages may not want to serve in the army (they discuss why they don't conscript adventurers in that chapter too).

So maybe they can't get mages unless the mages are sure that they're not going to the frontline. Since this is the biggest war ever between the Kingdom and the Empire... not too likely.
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>>133087260
>Guan Yu actually wasn't stupid if that's who you're pointing to, he died because Wu betrayed him and there was a legit good strategist on the other side making things work. The bigger issue
For some reason backspace autoposts if I click off. Weird.
Anyway, the bigger issue was that Liu Bei was SO muh brothers that GY and ZF dying basically put him into a state of shock and he went full vengeance, causing him to severely fuck his country's strength in a few hopeless battles.
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>>133087289
I always thought Guan Yu was a Narberal-tier inflexible MUH HONOR warrior.
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>>133087306
He betrayed Cao Cao and ran off on him after finding out Liu Bei was alive for one.
Historically he was definitely MUH HONOR but at the very least he was also known to be fairly learned.
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>>133087260
>Guan Yu actually wasn't stupid if that's who you're pointing to, he died because Wu betrayed him and there was a legit good strategist on the other side making things work. The bigger issue

I'm saying he was stupid for not surrendering when it made sense to and valuing honor above all else when the core strategist for his big brother pulled off scummy shit all day anyways. And not realizing that his death would fuck over his nation harder than it would if he simply capitulated.
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>>133087332
I personally think Liu Bei was heavily whitewashed and Cao Cao was unduly vilified, but that's neither here nor there.

Anyway, I believe all generals back then were at least part noble, and being learned was part of that.
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>>133087348
Does Lu Bu really count as part noble?
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>>133087367
Not sure about that. But he was raised by some noble guy whom he killed for Dong Zhuo, so maybe?
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>>133087306
He was tasked with defending a castle and got his ass backstabbed by allies when he couldn't flee anymore.
>>133087336
Aight this was stupid, I'll admit, but remember these were the days where you were liable to get looked down on for the rest of your life for begging. Remember the fate of Yu Jin who begged once and was driven to fucking suicide?
>>133087348
Liu Bei was pretty heavily whitewashed, he's certainly decent but he's also a dude who attacked his own allies and family, etc.
The whole issue of Lu Meng attacking Jingzhou is debatably because Liu Bei betrayed their agreement.
Not to mention he's the only one of the big 3 (besides Sima Yi / Sima Zhao who came way after) who didn't have any claim to Emperorship - Cao Cao never claimed the throne (that was his son, Cao Pi) and was strictly guarding the Emperor and was sanctioned by the Emperor, while the Sun family had the Imperial Seal. Liu Bei had the rather good fortune of...having the same name.
>>133087367
Define noble. He occupied a province so by definition he's become a noble.
He's also likely to have been learned because back then generals were expected to also be learned.
>>133087388
Ding Yuan was hardly noble, unless you just meant a court official. Dong Zhuo was legit really high up the bureaucratic food chain.
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Reminder Rubedo is an automaton and will link up with Citrinitas Zosimus Delta who was created by the only other Supreme Being to take part in designing the treasury security in Nazarick along with Tabula making CZ the 'key' to unlocking both to be complete.
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>>133085910
what if i order her to ignore what i say and don't hold back (as long she won't kill me)) until the end?
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>>133087460
Liu Bei was a legit cousin to the throne, but he wanted to take the throne for himself, so Cao Cao, the dutiful minister, had to stop him.

Like you said, Cao Cao never once tried to take the throne, and his economic reforms were so effective that he could afford to throw army after army at Liu Bei. He should be the hero of the story, honestly speaking.

And by noble I assumed being part of the learned class... which now seems like pretty circular reasoning, yeah.
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>this thread
Overlord threads everyone: 20% discussion of OL, 20% waifuposting, 60% historical discussions and strategy
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>>133087460
Yu Jin was a faggot that served the enemy though. No one blamed Xu Shu for surrendering to Cao Cao for comparison's sake. It also didn't help that Yu Jin just happened to turn over when at the very same time Pang De rambled on about MUH HONAH.

Even if Cao Cao wanted to forgive Yu Jin when he found out, given Pang De's actions he couldn't do anything but denounce Yu Jin otherwise it would look bad and shake the Cao clan's rulership. I bet it wouldn't have been so severe if Yu Jin alone was surrendering and no one else of importance died in defiance.

As for Lu Bu, I just meant that he didn't start out as a noble at birth. I have no idea if he's the only general in 3 Kingdoms like that though, could be plenty more who started off as a commoner.
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>>133087480
I suppose it works like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K97Mp9w4LFQ
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>>133087551
Wasn't Zhang Fei a commoner too?
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>>133087530
It was still relevant in the beginning cause we were comparing aspects of Empire vs Kingdom. It's now hanging on by a thread that has to do with Gazef being retarded with MUH HONAH.
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>>133087578
Him and 2nd are cheaters by being 'brothers' with 'Imperial Uncle'. Lu Bu had no claim at any point other than Killing Fathers for General Titles.
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>>133087508
>He should be the hero of the story, honestly speaking.
His country is the one who managed to win in the end, although under the guidance of another house. Shu was just a pain in the ass, not an actual threat, seeing how they occupied what amounted to 70% wasteland / jungle / literally nothing lands while Wu got the uberrich southeast and Cao had the entire north.
>>133087551
China's 'nobility' is a little weird anyway with the essential problem that peasants had last names, names which were often the same as Emperors and Circuit Prefects.
And Pang De was a standard MUHHONORUBUWARRIORDEATH guy, yeah. It also had to do with Yu Jin being merciless to his (revolting) friends before, when there was a loophole that would (possibly) let them live available, yet begging for his life on the exact same justification of him having known Guan Yu privately.
>>133087605
Lu Bu was a big guy.
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>>133085621
the same as >>133085837
but with all NPC in one time
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>>133087627
He was the biggest, but Liu Bei the traitorous bastard betrayed him.

>>133087605
That makes sense.
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>>133087483
she blushes, then rapes you with strapon
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>>133087627
For Shu.

He's also probably the greatest stealth archer of 3 Kingdoms. I mean he did it on fucking horseback. You know how hard that shit is in Skyrim? No wonder Cao Xing followed him.

Actually now that I think about it given how the Empire has flying invisible magic caster riders, why couldn't they just scorch earth the Kingdom's farmlands during their annual battle and instantly force them to submit? It doesn't matter how rich your nobility are if everyone is starving. Everyone will surrender.
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Woot! Sebas look so different when they first sketch him.
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>>133087701
I think that's like a alpha version. Look at Ainz he doesn't have his orbs, his staff is different, there's no orb in his chest.
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>>133087701
Wow, proto-Ainz has some Void of the Godhand arm action going there.
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>>133087696
I think they want to slowly wear the Kingdom down and they can do that by just trolling the Kingdom's economy into nonexistence.

>>133087701
And where is this from?
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>>133087655
Liu Bei made the right move though, if Lu Bu joined Cao Cao it would have been very painful.
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>>133087696
I imagine that mages capable of both invisibility and fly magic are rare, enough that losing one to a freak hitsquad of adamants or some shit would be devastating.
>He's also probably the greatest stealth archer of 3 Kingdoms. I mean he did it on fucking horseback
And this is why I hate the Musou depiction of him basically swinging around a WESTERN HALBERD like it's a stick and clubbing everyone to death
Fuck's sake the dude is famous for hitting something the size of a large cockroach from 100 yards with a bow. He also has a famous weapon
Why the hell did they swap out the houtengageki with a shitty western halberd in the musou games?
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