Why is the Catholic Church always so badass in anime?
Because mormon jesus is fucking cool yo
>badass
You should stop using that word. It's just an attempt to make wanton destruction and violence sound like something to be admired.
>>132660255
Have you never read anything about the crusades? They did some crazy shit back in the day.
>>132660375
>some crazy shit
for example?
>>132660375
It was a crazy time
>>132660375
The crusades were a reaction to over a thousand years on non-stop Islamic invasions of Europe. Why do you think some Spanish people are miraculously brown?
/guardian/ get the fuck out
>>132660403
Randomly accusing people of witchcraft and burning them on the stake?
>>132660403
>Head out to conquer the holy land but decide the way is too long and kill your neighbors instead.
>Head out to conquer the holy land again but decide the way is too long and burn down the last bastion of Eastern Rome instead.
>Head out to conquer the holy land, then watch your king drown in a fucking river and go home.
>>132660434
>over a thousand years on non-stop Islamic invasions of Europe
u fookin wot m8
>>132660316
It's one of man's basic insticts, along with eating and reproducing. It has every right to be admired.
>>132660255
>they all have bad eyesight through too much mastrubation
Why is there always a super secret division of the church for assassination
>>132660569
>super secret
Well, you wouldn't go around telling people about it, would you.
>>132660569
Because catholicism is a big ass organization which still does exorcisms and shit.
Protestants have no pope and their exorcisms looks sillier.
>>132660661
There was one protestant group a few years back that was caught exorcising girls by vaginal penetration with a crucifix. I bet that looked really silly.
>>132660751
Did not know that.
That reminds me of Medieval perverted exorcists.
Japan has a weird view of christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFOJFyTl1U
because war
>>132660920
Yeah, the idea that nuns can go fuck whoever they want is something they like
For the same reason ninjas and katanas are always badass in western media. It's foreign and shit.
>>132660996
Can't really blame them
It's just like why there are religious symbols in NGE. Anno has said they just used it because it looks cool. Japan doesn't have the same relationship with Christianity that we do here in the west. To them it's more esoteric and the average Jap probably doesn't know too much about it.
>>132660255
Because japan has a very small religious population, and it always seems enigmatic. They have no idea what the real church is like, so they treat it with awe.
>>132662967
They know what christianity is, they just don't know what the vatican or catholicism is. The ones that have their churches made of bones and corpses which they find strange and dark.
>>132660495
>>132660456
Only the French and German swine left, everyone else continued under the command of based Richard the Lionheart.
>>132661042
What anime is this? Tell me it's not random art.
>>132663499
Learn to IQDB.
>>132660434
>over a thousand years on non-stop Islamic invasions of Europe
Islam was founded 600AD
>>132660255
Because it's the one,true,holy,catholic, apostolic church
>>132660751
Yeah that sounds protestant allright.
Give me a sexy catholic nun over those shitty lolis.
>>132663719
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
>>132660569
>Why is there always a super secret division of the church for assassination
They can't have assassins in the main 'forces' can they?
But once in a while, when they need some asses kicked in the name of the lord there's always some shadowy, officially non existent group to take care of that.
>>132663719
Kill yourself.
>>132663870
>>132660403
English and French kings fucking around with each while being allies, instead of kicking sand nigger ass.
>>132660255
Because they are true Christians, unlike protestant sects.
>>132660434
>The crusades were a reaction to over a thousand years on non-stop Islamic invasions of Europe.
Except they weren't and no historian worth his salt adheres to that falsity.
You probably believe in something called 'the dark ages' as well don't you pleb?
>>132663750
Don't forget this walking death machine.
Nips are secret westaboos.
>>132660920
Not really, they portray it exactly how it looks from the outside: a huge, fancy religious organisation with archaic practices and a secret agenda
>>132663870
>asses kicked in the name of the lord
That was pretty braindead.
>>132665147
I don't know what he's talking about with a thousand years but there was hella islamic incursions against europe. The fucking byzantines asked the pope for help it got so bad.
>>132660569
Because the church is essentially more powerful than nation, simply because it controls its followers psychologically (through beliefs that if you step out of line, you go to hell) rather than physical power like a state has (you step out of line, you go to jail or are killed by our forces),
Having an assassination unit would be the perfect way to silence critics of the church that could seriously damage its reputation.
>mfw it's always the Catholics
>>132663169
>Richard the Lionheart.
Was he a brutal man?
>>132666634
Orthodoxy does nothing besides looking like high level wizards.
And Latin chanting > Greek chanting
>>132665787
>anime about moe nuns doing cute nun things never
>>132666840
>besides looking like high level wizards
How is that not enough to warrant at least a cameo now and then?
>>132665593
On the inside it's anything but that anymore, it's more like this faggot >>132660316
For example:
>WHO WE ARE
>Are these church people weirdos, nerds, hypocrites and heretics?
>Short answer: yup!
>And if you're a weirdo, nerd, hypocrite or heretic, there's room for you, too.
>Our congregation is about 40% LGBTQ. We are old, middle-aged, and mostly young (our biggest demographics are under age 5, and age 22 to 45). Folks stuck on our church were raised Roman Catholic, UCC, fundamentalist evangelical, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Mormon, Unitarian, Jewish, atheist, agnostic, and the fastest-growing religious demographic in America, "none." We are Black, Latino, Asian, multiracial, and (mostly, but we're working on it) Anglo. Our families are one-parent, two-parent, adoptive, bio, queer, straight, family of choice, happily single, and all-of-the-above. We tend to be theologically ultra-progressive but we love the healthy tension that comes from stimulating dialogue and difference.
>Most of all: we are perfectly imperfect.
>>132660255
Why does every Catholic apparently have poor eyesight?
>>132660434
More like the Crusades was the Pope's best plan to get those crazy warlords to attack a common enemy instead of killing each other and sacking and pillaging the cities of Europe.
>>132666634
No one likes losers.
You guys wouldn't even exist anymore if you didn't manage to trick drunk Russian savages into thinking they entered the Heavens when they visited Hagia Sophia.
>>132667420
Because they have seen the truth.
>>132667402
That sounds like the average protestant church.
Like it has absolutly nothing to do with christianity anymore.
But I love the catholic self-understanding
>Your majesty, we, the Catholic clergy, have done our best to destroy the church for the last 1,800 years. We have not succeeded, and neither will you
>>132670062
What is this, Elder Scrolls?
>>132670321
I'm laughing more than I should.
>>132660456
>Head out to conquer the holy land again but decide the way is too long and burn down the last bastion of Eastern Rome instead.
Fuck Venice
>>132660569
Because there's a popular theory that the Jesuits were more or less assassins who carried out shit for the church
>>132671037
Thats some tinfoil hat shit
>>132671254
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam
This thread is full of kids.
>>132660462
>Islamic invasions of Europe
What do you call what happened to Australia and the America's?
>>132671494
Post-crusades, for one thing.
>>132667402
Maybe it's because english is not my native language but you lost me.
>>132666634
Seicon no qwaser.
>>132671494
Bringing civilization in Australia case.
>>132667402
And this is why translating the Bible to peasant languages was a mistake.
Burn all Protestants.
>>132671801
Current western society has less peasants than Ancient Greece did when the bible was written. If anything, it was translated from a peasant language to a language of computer techies.
>>132671859
Except it was not, only patrician could read let alone write.
>people literally offer their souls to the Jewish god by following its offshoot peasant religion that was only started to make the population docile and bow down to authority instead of stand up for themselves and protect their communities like pagan religions promoted
KEK
>>132672021
So the problem as you see it is that too many people can read and write?
Rejoice, my friend, for free education is going down the drains and is getting shittier every year.
>>132671801
Jesus preached to the peasantry and other commoners, he drew his disciples from them, his message was made for them, not neo-pharisees with their heads up their asses such as the Catholic clergy.
>>132672098
>pagan
No thanks
>>132667768
...said a sect that considers the pope, a human chosen by humans, to possess divine infallibility. Enjoy your self-contradictions, I guess.
>>132672351
>pagan. Its roots have nothing to do with religion, instead its original meaning was simply something stuck in the ground as a landmark.
Over time it was extended to refer not just to the landmark itself, but the area around it, and then finally the people living there. Eventually it came to mean any citizen of a town or city. When Christianity came along with the notion that its followers were metaphorical soldiers of God, to be a mere citizen meant you were outside the faith — a heathen — where the meaning of the word has finally settled today.
>>132672351
>not worshipping the gods of your ancestors
>worshipping Yahweh instead, which is just another version of the god of Babylon
There's a reason western civilization flourished in the arts and sciences under the old Greek and Roman religions and began stagnating once Christianity was instated.
Christianity is a tool that destroys and consumes native belief systems and replaces them with a sanitized, dumbed down form of Judaism meant for non-Jews.
>>132672416
the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra — that is, when in the exercise of his office as pastor and teacher of all Christians he defines, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church — is, by reason of the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer wished His Church to be endowed in defining doctrines of faith and morals; and consequently that such definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of their own nature (ex sese) and not by reason of the Church's consent"
Because Shiro Amakusa
>>132672577
Holy shit read a history book instead of pop-sci 101
![More-Marimite-pics-maria-sama-ga-miteru-10287919-753-561[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8tlvobi.jpg "More-Marimite-pics-maria-sama-ga-miteru-10287919-753-561[1].jpg")
>>132660255
Their schools are pretty cute too.
>>132672682
Nice refutation
>>132672608
If that's the best excuse you could come up with for "this random guy we chose is totally infallible, guise" after all those centuries, then ｉｔ ｃａｒｒｉｅｓ ｏｕｔ ａｎｄ ｉｓ ｗ ．
>tfw it's too late for revive the Byzantine Empire and save Europe with power of the true Rome and true faith
>>132672813
Ok.
1)
My ancestors have been christian for ~1500-1400 years
2)
>Yahweh
>god of babylon
3)
>began stagnating once Christianity was instated.
Literally not true
And don't come with "muh dark ages"
>>132660403
like sacking a christian city of Constantinopolis and greatly accelerating the death of the ERE which greatly helped the ottomans to advance into europe
or how about teutons being so power-hungry that they ended up at war with Poland of all places, a catholic nation
basically crusaders are useless fucks
>>132672897
So what's the problem in the reasoning from Ｔｈｅ ｃｈｕｒｃｈ ａｓ ａ ｗｈｏｌｅ ｉｓ ｉｎｆａｌｌｉｂｌｅ.
>>132673093
There's no problem with it so long as you don't take it seriously.
>>132660255
Anglicanism > Catholicism.
>>132673032
And they were pagan for at least twice that amount of time before that. Yahweh is what Marduk became when the Babylonians just said fuck it and got rid of the rest of their pantheon and gave those gods' qualities to him. And yes, human progress did begin stagnating, because the church was too busy executing anyone who dared think outside the limits of the Bible as a heretic. Why do you think the Renaissance period was such a huge step forward? Because Europeans dared to look back at pagan Greece and Rome and look at those ideas again.
>>132660255
>Church
>badass
And you guys still want a history board...
>>132673093
The church as an establishment =/= one dude with a tall hat.
>>132673232
>Yahweh is what Marduk became when the Babylonians just said fuck it and got rid of the rest of their pantheon and gave those gods' qualities to him
Where did you hear this bullshit from, give a source if you have anything to back it up.
>>132673432
The current dude with a tall hat isn't wearing his tall hat.
>>132673232
Holy fucking shit.
You actualy believe in the pop-sci dark ages.
Like read a history book please.
>Yahweh is what Marduk became when the Babylonians just said fuck it and got rid of the rest of their pantheon and gave those gods' qualities to him.
Except they are very much different.
Where's creation ex nihilo in Babylonian mythology?
Or the condemnation of idols
Like is this from some Zeitgeist documentary?
Are there actually any Muslims in anime?
>>132673432
You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church
>>132673232
>Middle Ages = "Dark Ages"
No.
>>132673303
I'm an optimist. I like to believe that people who do dumb shit like romanticize failed states like the Byzantine empire or misunderstand modern historians' tendency to avoid using the term Dark Ages to mean that the period between the barbarian invasions and the Carolingian Renaissance wasn't actually that bad at all would go to /his/, post their usual bullshit, and get educated on the subject by people who actually know at least a little bit about what they're talking about.
>>132673532
yes
>>132673782
The problem is that most retards don't know what the term dark ages refers to.
Which is kinda why they try to avoid it.
>>132673232
>Europe was the only bastion of technological marvel and advancement
>what is China and the Eastern world
>>132672973
Seriously fuck venice.
>>132673782
so what you're saying is that we should have a history board for debunking stereotypes, myths and misconceptions?
Great!
>>132660255
>why is something in 2D better than IRL?
>>132673996
alternatively it ends up as /pol/ with dates
>>132673216
>Anglicanism
In real life she'd be a fat middle-aged lesbian, then
>>132674005The Exorcist is based on a real story
>>132660255
>Why are ninjas always so badass in american movies?
>>132673534
"Church" here is not a physical thing tho.
>>132666439
Play any Byzantine or Georgian or Armanian nation in CK2 and see how hard it is to survive that era without crusades.
>>132673586
Was she a bishop? Or the queen herself? I thought the Queen was the head of the Anglican church?
>>132674005
Where did she come from? Miriam?
>>132674462
I don't know anon, CK 2 isn't really a good indicator of anything.
Last time I played it, I brought back the almighty Roman Empire with relative ease, and on another playthrough I turned the buddhist afghan kingdom into a military superpower able to defend from Abbasid incursions and conquer it's neighbours.
>>132674706
Read the filename.
In the meantime:
http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Laura_Stuart
>>132674706
The British monarch is the boss on paper while the Archbishop of Canterbury is the boss in reality.
Think of it like head of state/head of government distinction.
>>132674750
Isn't she one of /pol/'s mascots?
>>132666840
>greek chanting
Get rekt, we have chanting in our own language.
>>132675298
It can't measure up to Dies Irae
>>132674768
Not to defend Paradox and their games, but stranger things have happened in reality.
>>132675412
At least we can understand what are they singing about.
>>132675512
>Not knowing Latin
I bet you can't even translate the De Bello Gallico on the fly, you peasant
>>132660462
>>132665147
>The muslims dindu nuffin dem whitey crusaders were jealous of our peaceful religion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
>>132675504
Well, that true. We do live in a world where a desert tribe created one of the biggest empire and religion in the span of a few years.
>>132675580
Of course I can't. Do the math: I've mentioned that my country has orthodoxal christiaity and I've mentioned that it's in native language. 90% chance that I'm from Slavlands. And you're wondering if I know latin.
>>132674935
Ahhh, thanks anon!
>>132665147
yea actually it was. Pope Urban wanted to push back the muslims in Anatolia who were attacking Greece
>>132675512
There are translations.
And sounding omnious is always a bonus
>>132666840
>Orthodoxy does nothing besides looking like high level wizards.
But that's already infinitely better than Catholics.
>>132675590
They are responding to the ridiculous remark of 1000 years you fucking dumbass.
>>132675679
Isn't Slavonic the liturgy language of Slav Orthodoxy? How the hell can you have a language that has been dead for 1000+ year as your native one
>>132675868
he said "can't"
learn to read
>>132675868
We have our native as liturgy language. Same as georgians have georgian as their liturgy language in their Orthodoxy.
>>132675903
I mean't that I don't know latin as >>132675580 was saying.
You both learn to read.
>you will never fuck a preist
>>132676051
You're too old for priests if you're posting on /a/.
This thread needs Caren.
>>132676531
Is she a saint now?
>>132676560
http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_Wiki
So we're talking about the lord, are we?
>>132676645
Also God. Pic related.
>>132666840
>there will never be an anime about a high level Orthodox wizard travelling the world and fighting succubi
>>132676645
Best denominationBest DLC
>>132667420
blind fate
>>132676645
I could listen to this motherfucker's voice for hours on end.
>>132676710
Please. You're supposed to conceal yourself while you're in enemy territory.
Why is there no anime about pure Muslims dealing with infidel?
>>132676870
>The Father's journal entries
>>132673074
>white people ruin everything
history of mankind right there
>>132677041
How would you show mohammed-sama?
>>132660255
Because the Catholic church IS badass
>>132677046
>"It's been a gift to me, at the end of it all, to behold innocence."
One of the few quotes in videogames that stick with me.
The non-meme ones of course, fucking Star Fox and Deus Ex.
>>132666840
Orthodoxy = Wizard / Warlord
Pagan = Druid / Berseker
Catholic = Warrior / Paladin / Cleric / Chant
buddhist = Monk / Chant / singer ....
Jew = Money / dwarf merchant
atheist = range / sniper fedora
...
>>132677222Old men, running the world
Oh man, I loved Hellsing for that reason. I grew up Catholiv, so it was pretty cool to see. Loved Father Anderson.
>>132677297
A NEW AGE.
>>132660316
Oh shit I think we actually have a christfag
>>132677046
>There are people who fled Zion, letting all his work go to waste
>>132673303
But anon it already exists, it's called /int/
>>132675580
"La belle Gaule" ?
>>132660444
>crusades
>>132673485
A popular theory is that the first Genesis story is a polemic against the Babylonian chaoskampf story of creation found in the Enuma Elisha. Given that the Jews were in exile in Babylon, this would be a fuck you to the annual festivals that would occur to celebrate the Babylonian creation story.
>>132660255
Catholics have been fucking shit up all through human history
Carino struck Peter's head with an axe and then attacked Domenico. Peter rose to his knees, and recited the first article of the Symbol of the Apostles (the Apostle's Creed). Offering his blood as a sacrifice to God, according to legend, he dipped his fingers in it and wrote on the ground: "Credo in Unum Deum", the first words of the Nicene Creed. The blow that killed him cut off the top of his head, but the testimony given at the inquest into his death confirms that he began reciting the Creed when he was attacked.
Catholic Missionaries and imperial emissaries of Catholic nations like Portugal were involved with some shenanigans back during the Sengoku era.
And you all know how obsessed Japan is with the Sengoku era, so top that off with the Vatican's enormous influence over the history of Europe, from the Crusades to the Borgias, even to the point where the U.S. was concerned about electing the Catholic JFK in the late 50s/early 60s, you can see why they've got the sinister/exotic badass portrayal down in Chinese comics.
>>132665678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC6WAAlNHt4
The Catholic Church used to be based
>>132678343
But taht's the Kingdom of France
>>132678409
Yup, the CARDINAL of Richelieu.
>>132677945
you mean /pol/
>>132678183
The japs must be fascinated by the idea that the church had enormous political power over whole europe, because they never had anything like this in their own past. Or did they?
>>132678343
But the person you posted was a traitor who put the interest of his nation above the interest of his religion and allied with heretics and helped ensure the continued survival of Protestantism and the weakening of the Catholic Church.
Literally the Judas of Christianity.
>>132678462
The French church was almost a separate entity from Rome at that point of history, sepecially thanks to Richelieu
>>132678554
Didn't some officials decide to crack down on christianity because it got to popular quickly?
>>132678554
>they never had anything like this in their own past. Or did they?
State shinto and its previous historical manifestations? Obviously, it's not quite equivalent to Christianity over the years but, you know, emperors descended from Amaterasu, ultimate authority depending on the era, it'd be pretty close.
>>132678554
The warriors monks of mount Hiei gave Nobunaga alot of trouble, as I recall.
>>132678561
Catholicism was hardly a strong and united force against the Ottomans and protestants before he came along.
He kept France staunchly Catholic and turned it into the seventeenth and eighteenth century superpower that it was.
>>132660255
why do you think?
>>132678561
sounds like a hero.
>>132660255
I presume Japanese see incredible power in the Church as it managed to (atleast partly) unite Europe full of different nations, while they couldn't unite clans of one nation without constant wars
>>132678561
>He doesn't have the monarch as the head of the church
>>132672767
Why do Catholic Schools breed Lesbians like a corpse breeds flies?
>>132678888
The Dutch convinced the Japanese that if they allow Christianity to flourish in Japan, Spain would use that as an excuse to attack and conquer them. So the Japs started cracking down on Christians, which eventually caused the Christians to rebel. The rebellion was suppressed, and Japs decided that dealing with foreigners was too much effort so they're just going to close the borders.
Japan could have been a Westernized, Christian state and started its colonial empire in the 16th century instead of the 19th century.
Once again, Protestants ruin everything.
>>132677298
I really loved him in the Abridged version as well.
>>132679539
>Once again, Protestants ruin everything.
But they made anime possible.
>>132679165
I have neither a monarch nor an official state religion because it's the 21st fucking century and I don't live in a third world shithole.
>>132678183
The Japanese believed the Church would bring an invasion by Spain or Portugal, which is why they attempted to eradicate Christianity under Hideyoshi and Ieyasu. So believing the Church was powerful enough to encourage a full on invasion by a foreign power mush have been in part at least a reason why they see the Catholics as a highly powerful entity.
>>132679043
Is that a Blues Brothers reference?
>>132660255
because its exotic, just like how the japanese find christianty exotic and interesting, we find their culture exotic and interesting. both attempt to make media/shows/whatever from eachother. its all good.
>>132679750
>So believing the Church was powerful enough
> mush have been in part at least a reason why they see the Catholics as a highly powerful entity.
>>132679469
Because sex = satan and two girls can't have sex
>>132679887
The Vatican is powerful because it's powerful.
Japan proper likes their power level rankings simple. None of this "MC is ranked lowest but he's actually the strongest and a super special snowflake" horseshit.
>>132660403
At one point, they had been besieging a village for so long that they lost patience and charged in, murdering all of the people in the village. Then they cooked them and ate their flesh.
Crusading chroniclers write about it with palpable disgust. It's fascinating.
>>132680051
A famous Ex-Islamic Philosopher had been born there, and he was recorded as saying 'There are two types of people in the world. Those with brains and no religion, and those with religion and no brains.'
Somehow I feel that the fate of his hometown may be linked to that.
Religion and myth based anime with a Feudal Japanese setting when?
Using holy water to fight demons and shit.
That pimp as fuck armor and robe combo
>>132660255
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLkhTMpOuMA
Remove protestants.
>>132680169
He said that in the 12th Century? Sounds too modern to me.
>>132680169
>In 2013, a statue of Al-Maʿarri located in Syria was beheaded by jihadists from the Al Nusra Front.[2]
Who's the brainless one now, huh?
>>132680478
Arabs were pretty modern until the Mongols fucked their shit up so bad that they thought that Allah was punishing them for being too liberal
>>132680478
It was Abul ʿAla Al-Maʿarri and he said it in the 10th Century. He was also a gloomy fuck who believed children shouldn't be born to spare them the horrors of the world.
But that fact that it was his home that was invaded by cannibal crusaders is a surprising twist of History. It's one of the reasons I have a degree.
>>132680314
>>132678139
But the creed was after any of the apostles' natural life time?
>>132679729
>I have neither a monarch
You have a "democratically" elected government that is so indistinguishable from the other parties standing for election in how they obey every command of the lobbyists that a monarch would actually be preferable.
>nor an official state religion
You have Free Market.
>>132680612
I'm disappointed this piece of art is apparently the work of some dude born in the '60s and not some really kickass folk tale about some kind of Christian samurai lady.
>>132681229
Well, the art makes it pretty obvious.
>>132678888
There is always the story of Christians made to stomp on the image of Christ? There was even a famous novel about it?
>>132681220
Different Peter
>Vatican pronounced as Batichkan
>>132681404
Yeah that novel's called "Silence"
>>132681483
Ahhh right. Thanks anon!
>>132680612
Would watch, would pay money to buy DVDs.
>>132681535
The ending was actually well done.
>>132679729
>duh! we're in the 21 century, dummy. monarchs and state religions are for old geezers, not kool kids like me!
4chan is >18
>>132681546
Peter the Apostle got cruzified upside down
>>132681594
>The ending was actually well done.
Yeah I thought it was pretty powerful
>>132681627
So the creed and its connection to what Jesus preached was more through word of mouth and the tradition of most of the churches the apostle planted?
>>132680478
Naram Sin, 5000 B.C.
We have fallen upon evil times, the world has waxed old and wicked. Politics are very corrupt. Children are no longer respectful to their elders. Each man wants to make himself conspicuous and write a book.
>>132681627
I had shivers reading about the summary of the ending.
>>132681730
The creed was a solidification of church teachings.
I even think it predates the Bible by roughly a century.
>>132679539
>Japan becomes Christian
>no anime
>good
Did you consider following Christ and move to the next world?
>>132681928
Interesting. So by reliability it is the most reliable one.
>mfw Americans dropped their atomic bombs on the cities with the biggest Kurishitan communities of Japan
Those poor fuckers survived through almost 400 years of persecutions only to be incinerated by other christians
>>132681740
>5000 BC
So it predates the earliest known literature by more than two thousand years?
>>132682029
What do you mean with that?
>>132681627
>>132681535
Film will be out 2016.
>>132682136
My best guess is that it's 500BC instead.
>>132660255
The same reason Bhuddist monks are badass in western media
>>132682094
Didn't one of the churches survive the A-bomb?
>>132682148
There already are a Japanese and Portuguese production of it
>>132682199
The Cathedral in Nagasaki was still standing as I recall. Still a total wreck though.
>>132682094
>Christians
Nothing of value lost.
>>132682203
Any good? Or just read the novel?
>>132682254
>>132680523
kek
>>132682199
There was a small Jesuite mission that was within a kilometer of the bomb, all eight members were unharmed and their chapel was the only thing around still standing
>>132682094
How ironic.
>>132680523
Why am I laughing at the choice of image?
>>132682340
Yeah, that's how it works. It's not like he was good because he wanted to be. He was good because he was a Christian. If not for Christianity, he certainly wouldn't be good.
>>132682402
>>132682253
Some people have all the luck, or God really wants them to continue their mission.
>>132679719
>>132681992
Why would Japan being Christian mean no anime? If "Catholic" France can produce cartoons, so can Catholic Japan. It's not like traditional Jap values aren't at odds with the anime industry anyways.
If anything, we'd have more anime now. West has started producing cartoons in like 1900s, and closer ties to Japan would mean Japan would start doing them sooner too.
If Japan was Christian would there be more of an outcry against their war crimes in WW II?
>>132676408
>>132682606
They would have a very diffeent aesthetic though. Anime is heavilly influenced by the art of the pre-Meiji period and eastern cultural influences. Christianity would most likely have absorbed and supplanted those, giving it a very different look. That's the trouble with might-has-beens, one small change can often wrought huge changes further down the line. It's why I love counterfactual History as it offers a window to examine and critique History as it is today.
![[HorribleSubs] Utawarerumono - Itsuwari no Kamen - 04 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_06.29_[2015.10.24_19.50.40].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AHQa0fJ.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Utawarerumono - Itsuwari no Kamen - 04 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_06.29_[2015.10.24_19.50.40].jpg")
>>132682606
Oh certainly anon. The Catholic France is producing stuff like pics related in their cartoons.
Also France is hardly Catholic. It's a secular country for a long time.
The reason why Anime is different from the western cartoons is because Japan is different from the western countries. If it was westernized in 16th century like anon suggested, it would be the same as the US.
>>132682897
>it would be the same as the US.
Or worse, like Mexico.
>>132660255
Because to your average foreigner the catholic church seems pretty mysterious corrupt.
The truth of the matter is its only corrupt.
>>132680593
this
mingols destroyed a civilization that was already on its way out, but they destroyed it before it could reform (albeit you could caunt the rise of ghulat groups as reform)
islam could be very different today
>>132660920
Ask a random westerner what he knows about shintoism. It's the same shit.
