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So I felt depressed today, and started watching pokemon again.
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So I felt depressed today, and started watching pokemon again.

>Misty has left
>Brock has left

Why ?
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>>124244560
because kids have autism and want a new play thing every year also what the fuck is wrong with these people? why would you release your strongest pokemon ever? what the flying fuck is wrong with these kids its like they don't want to win.
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>>124244560
Depression thread general? ;_;
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Not your blog.

Kill yourself.
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>>124244678

I'm just asking a question here !

Why would they remove them ?
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>>124244926
You don't remove / replace your friends after they reach their use-by-date?
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So I felt depressed today, and started watching dragonball again.

>Oolong has left
>Yamcha has left
>Bulma has left
>I'm not even sure if that guy they're referring to as Goku even IS Goku, he sure as fuck doesn't even look like him
>bunch of blondies everywhere

Why ?
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>>124244560
Misty is first fap in old times
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I went to watch Haruhi today but there was no Haruhi nor Kyon.
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>>124245062

No I don't ;_;

>>124245209

WHAT ?
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>>124244560
Because the reason they were sticking with Ash was already solved and they have no reason to continue to travel with him, they're all still in Kanto and Ash can visit them whenever he wants.
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>>124244652
>what the flying fuck is wrong with these kids its like they don't want to win.
Characters in the anime actually have hearts, unlike player characters in the games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckEIGJeUI2o
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>>124244560
Because Misty was an awful character with a vague as fuck goal that she barely did anything to achieve, and the only ones who like her were nostalgiafags and autistic as fuck tsunderefag shippers who treat the dub as canon (fun fact: Misty had no feelings for Ash in the Japanese version). Brock stayed for longer, but he got even more stale as the series went on, so he finally left for good at the end of DP.

And really, each new girl has just been better than the previous one, other than Iris, who happened to be a black Misty with dragons instead of water, so them getting replaced is a good thing.

Also, here's the Japanese farewell scene of the original trio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0wFGwI0Us
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>>124245379
>Also, here's the Japanese farewell scene of the original trio:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0wFGwI0Us
Like this if you cry everytime.
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>>124245379
>fun fact: Misty had no feelings for Ash in the Japanese version
Say it ain't true anon. Say it ain't true.
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>>124245550
It's not really true, it's just a hell of a lot more subdued in the original and was pretty much written out completely by the time Johto came along.
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>>124245550
Straight from the original head writer:

http://team-rocket.forumcommunity.net/?t=51254349
>Kasumi doesn’t feel love for Satoshi. If her love for him became one of Pokemon’s plots, it would break all the Pokemon series’ structure. Pokemon’s theme is relation between fictionals creatures and people and also growth through think and thin of the young boy (this means an age period for both boys and girls), Satoshi.

>In Pokemon however, the most important theme is relation with fictional creatures, which was added to that theme. For Satoshi, who’s a child, Pikachu is th partne he can count on. For example, even if Kasumi fell in love with Satoshi, it wouldn’t be able to interrupt relation between Satoshi and Pikachu.

>If Kasumi’s love towards Satoshi happened in Pokemon, it would be nothing more than seasoning added to cooking - and, to be honest, for Pokemon’s theme, seasoning that makes taste complicated would be only a disturbance.

>So from the start, there’s no such factor in Kasumi’s character as love towards Satoshi. Surely, it may be that Kasumi was in the ager when girls fall in love, but “Pokemon” isn’t either a shoujo manga nor a cellphone novel.

>That’s why, out of all the characters appearing in the Pokemon anime series, the one with the weakest existence is Kasumi. It was decided from the start, when Pokemon anime was during planning, that Satoshi will be character travelling with friends, because if it was only the boy and Pokemon it would become tasteless and it would be hard to introduce to the girls’ audience. This existence could be compared to a parsley in a dish. It doesn’t need to be there, but the dish looks better if you add it. Occassionally, there are people who like parsley in their dish, but it’s a minority.
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>>124245657
That writer left before Misty did.
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>>124245657
>quoting Shudo
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>>124245667
He stayed long enough to know that the staff found her less worthy of staying than Team Rocket.
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>>124245657
Now XY is pandering Ash x Serana for nothing again.
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>>124244560
>Togepi evolved

Wow, what the...

I thought that thing was never going to get past his "parasitic" phase and stay stuck in her arms forever.

I wonder if the writers will ever make her evolve it to a Togebliss.
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>>124245657
Good.

I assume everyone here would know what e.g. Hollywood would do with the same series.

So yeah, good.
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>>124245783
Speaking about Serena, has she ever made any progress as a character besides getting into Satoshi's pants?

Did she become an actual good trainer?

Has Haruka made an appeareance because of ORAS?
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>>124244560
>Misty has left
Because tsunderebitch.
>Brock has left
Because boring.
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>>124246046
Yes, yes and no in that order.
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>>124245949
Yes, the 4Kids dub tried to force it hard as fuck, leading to several cringeworthy line changes and love songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq0ue7GArds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggaIHoJg6IY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyg7yUvAeI
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>>124246046
>she ever made any progress as a character
Does "character development" counts?
>Did she become an actual good trainer?
Dunno, Bonnie's probably a better trainer than her.
>Has Haruka made an appeareance because of ORAS?
No and never.
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>>124245886
Misty released it right afterwards. Dawn got a Togekiss, though.
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>>124246159
>Does "character development" counts?

Ah, so she cut her hair? Well, that's at least something, I guess.

>>124246170
Goddammit, what a waste. She definitely stood with Satoshi too long.

Hooray for Dawn, though.
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Misty has been replaced with someone better. Brock has been replaced by a little girl.
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>>124246511
>Brock has been replaced by a little girl.
Best decision ever.
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>>124245377
Why even become a Pokemon trainer if you want to be a bleeding heart faggot.
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>>124246511
Serena is definitely best girl and dare I say little Bonnie's gags are supperior to Brock's
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plot points that are exclusive to the dub and thus are non-canon/fanfiction tier
>ash wanting to catch'em all
>ash and misty's relationship
>ash promising primeape he'll come back for him
>the legend from the second movie having anything to do with ash
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>>124247097
Ash never promised to go back for primeape in subs?

And are you talking about Lugia?
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>>124247185
>Ash never promised to go back for primeape in subs?
well, technically he didn't in the dub either, it was the narrator saying ash would, however that line isn't present in the original japanese version
>And are you talking about Lugia?
yeah, the "the earth shall turn to ash" shit is dub-only
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>>124244652
/a/ in one post
>>124244678
same
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>>124247185
It was made pretty clear in the original that Primeape was permanently given to the boxer. The dub added some bullshit implying it was just for a temporary training session or something.
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I WANT MISTY BACK
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>>124245379
> and the only ones who like her were nostalgiafags

I like her because she IS a part of the trio and she's not a bad character a all. You don't let we get attached with a character only to remove it from the story for nothing.

The removal of Misty and Brok are one of the things why pokemon started to be shit.
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>>124244652
>kids have autism and want a new play thing every year
Wrong, that's the marketing department which want to sell new shits for kids every year.
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>>124248357
>I like her because she IS a part of the trio
So?
>and she's not a bad character a all.
Kill yourself.

>The removal of Misty and Brok are one of the things why pokemon started to be shit.
x2
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>>124248357
Brock was kept around for a good while, though.
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>>124244560
Brock leaving was the best thing happened to Pokemon.
He became an overused annoying joke after Johto.
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>>124248154
Actually, I want that pokemon reboot with a proper ending, in like 50 or so episodes, imo. [they can continue if they want, but at least change the main trio.]
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>>124248526
>Kill yourself

Come back when you have a mental age of 18.
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>>124245379
Tracey's a more relevant character than Misty and he was only there as a companion for about 30 episodes
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>>124249301
>Come back when you have a mental age of 18.
That isn't something that a 13 year old who likes Misty can say.
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>>124247851
The dub is so full of shit.

People really look down on kids in murricah.
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>>124249894
Dub>Sub.
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Misty was fucking terrible.
Brock seriously overstayed his welcome.
New companions are the best.
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>>124249935
/vp/ pls
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>>124249953
/vp/ hates the dub more than anything
Certainly more than /a/ does.
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>>124249952
now they need to replace team rocket and Ash
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>>124249952
New companions are the best. Kasumi was still hot.
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>>124249953
There is literally nothing wrong with the dub.
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>>124249996
They sure can't stop using dub names though.
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>>124250005
They just to write Team Rocket as well as they used to.
Ash is cool though, he can stay.
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>>124249953
>thinking /vp/ likes the dub
Wow
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>>124250041
Game names.
Besides Ash, which is just weird for everyone to just switch to Satoshi after all this time, the names come from the games, or if the place/person hasn't appeared in the games, they'll use the Japanese name.
Especially since when everyone is discussing, there won't be any any english names to use in those cases anyway since it's like half a year behind.
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>>124250162
People use "Citron" and "Eureka" all the time too, since they're so prominent in the anime and so minor in the game.
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Gambler Club is here to fulfil all you pokegirls lust.
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>>124250338
PM Gals XY 2 is the only good doujin they did
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>>124244678
>>124247601
You're both shitposters who don't belong here and need to die.

Get the fuck out of /a/ forever, cancer.
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>>124250338
That's what I thought when looking at the covers.
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This thread is so sad
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>>124245379

Misty wasn't awful character but she isn't the best (Also Iris is bad but she isn't a black misty), Brock was the best bro and was the most useful team member in history.

The best trio is Ash, Dawn, And brock.
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I'm only at episode 6 of X&Y and it's very cute
>>124253050
I miss dawn she was probably the goofiest of the pokegirls
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Only ever watched the dub as a kid, and when I stopped giving a fuck Ash was still travelling with Brock and May. Could someone give me a general overview of hat has happened since and who else Ash has traveled with?
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>>124253430
They basically shuffled in endless iterations of not!brock and not!misty.

They may as well be fucking palette swaps. And these people eat it up. Also Ash has lost almost every major pokemon tournament still.
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>>124253430
>general overview of what has happened since
Travelling to new region and shit, also losing on each of the league of the regions.
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>>124253524
>not!brock and not!misty
>>>/tumblr/
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>>124253524
>>124253624

What would happen if ash won a league?

Will the internet explode?
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>>124253692
>Will the internet explode?
No, I doubt people would even care about it anymore.
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>>124245657
>but “Pokemon” isn’t either a shoujo manga nor a cellphone novel
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>124253749

Okay, slack that....Will the Pokemon fags fanbase explode?
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the first time I saw this girl, I honetly tought her hair was a new pokemon
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>>124253692
He already won a girlfriend and the internet didn't explode enough for you to have heard of it.
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>>124253816
Only a handful of them.

>>124253831
>He already won a girlfriend
topkek
I want to believe.
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>>124247269
>yeah, the "the earth shall turn to ash" shit is dub-only
I always wondered what was the original Japanese for that. Glad to know there wasn't any.
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>>124253692
>What would happen if ash won a league?
A new challenge would be presented so that Ash doesn't get time to celebrate.

He'd probably lose the winning pokemons too.
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>>124253954
Movie 2 is probably the single most rewritten part of the entire dub.
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>>124246582
I want to bone Bonnie
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>>124254188
I want a line per line comparison now
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>>124245379
>>124245517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGHjp1qHI8g
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>>124254454
Basically, you know all that stuff about "The Power of One" and a "chosen one" destined to save the world?

The dub made all that up.
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>>124254555
What was the actual legend?

Are there accurate subs?
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>>124254812
>What was the actual legend?
Basically what the dub had, just without the chosen hero stuff.

>Are there accurate subs?
I don't think so, unfortunately.
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I watched the anime a long time ago, where do I catch up now ?

I am a big fan of gen 3 so I started to watch advanced but this is a bit plain.

Where do I start ?
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>>124254896
Start with Decolora Adventure 20, then continue into XY from there.

http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/
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>>124254896
Whichever point do you start, don't watch BW, unless you want to make yourself suffer.
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>>124255075
why ?
>>124255032
thanks
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>>124255207
>why ?
You're better off not knowing, anon.
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>>124255296

pls tell me
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>>124255316
Pasta summing up BW pretty well:

>*The rivals were terribly handled. Shootie was boring, his character arc barely even involved Ash, and he was given a horrible resolution. Langley and Cabernet just disappeared with NO resolution whatsoever.
>*Ash's team was weak, boring (3 starters + Pikachu and a bird is never an exciting combination), and his reserves rarely ever appeared and had zero personality.
>*Hikari's 10 episode long guest appearance barely involved her at all
>*Grimdark Team Rocket was fucking terrible in every way
>*Episode N had some decent buildup, but the endgame was an anticlimax taken to insulting levels
>*Decolora Adventure had its share of fun episodes, but 20 episodes of random aimless adventures is no way to end a series.
>*It's also generally agreed that the movies weren't very good (I kinda like the Victini one though)
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>>124255316
>Make ash dumber
>Snivy butthurt
>And annoying butler and black girl.
>Rip-off Paul rival

There.
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>>124255316
I guess pic related is good enough to give you the reason.
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He will always be in my heart
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>>124255513
Wasn't there also a scene where Ash didn't recognize a charmander?
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>>124247097
When I was a kid, I had a subbed VHS copy of the second movie and Misty was still jealous of the festival girl and Ash in it. The only difference was that the dub added more dialogue to play it up. That movie isn't even canon anymore, though.
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>>124255380
Okay, so I'm gonna watch Decolora Adventures !
>>124255513
What the actual fuck
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>>124255691
No, that was just an out-of-context screenshot made to troll people that didn't watch the show.
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>>124255513
I fucking hate Ash.
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>>124255748
Decolora Adventure 20 is the final episode of BW and doesn't really have all that much to do with BW, it's mostly just setup for XY.
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>>124255757
They're my favorite parts of livewatch threads.
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>>124244560
New group of guys is way better than anything before it anyways.
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>>124255831
Here's Ash having to scan fucking Pikachu.

It's not even Ash using the dex, but you can't tell that from the screenshot, so troll away.
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>>124244560
Because they represented your crush and your friends and like your childhood they are long gone.
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>>124255743
They also originally planned to end pokemon after the first movie and had a scene written out for the ending with Satoshi and Kasumi being together with a daughter. Their relationship wasn't as played up in the Japanese version a it was in the English version, but despite what one random fuck who happened to work on the writing staff thought, it was still present to a degree.
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>>124256200
>They also originally planned to end pokemon after the first movie and had a scene written out for the ending with Satoshi and Kasumi being together with a daughter.

>still believing this

inb4 you link me to a certain Youtube video
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>>124256200
>>124256200
>Satoshi and Kasumi being together with a daughter.
No they didn't.
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>>124256200
How do you know about what that guy said, but still not know the truth behind the scene?
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>>124256156

That hit home hard.
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>>124256324
To be fair, some faggot tends to paste Shudo's bullshit into every single thread that brings up Misty
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>>124256200
>had a scene written out for the ending with Satoshi and Kasumi being together with a daughter
Fuck off, retard. That rumor is on the same tier as Butterfree dying in Japan and Mew being under the truck.

The trailer played the third ending (which is about a mother and her little girl discussing Pokemon and how they long to return to childhood/grow up respectively) while Misty's voice actor talked about the movie being announced, so Misty and the singers were depicted in the animation for the trailer.
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>>124246761
>Bonnie's gags are supperior to Brock's

What's her gag?
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>>124256459
to get girls to marry her beta as fuck brother because he's incapable of looking after himself
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>>124256459
>>124256514
And it's cute as fuck.
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>>124256514
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>>124255691
>>124255757
>>124255831
>>124255936

there was one scene when he fucking pokedexed koffing though
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>>124256636
>yfw she almost said yes
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>>124256630
>mass recruiting
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>>124256734
Also out of context. He was the only one with a dex and his friends didn't know what a Koffing was. He identified it himself before he dexed it.
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>>124256734
Yeah he fucking pokedexed a Koffing that he didn't saw in almost 640 episodes, also scanning it for his friends that didn't knew what it was. Also scanning it because every region's fucking dex gives different goddamn info every time it scans something and you people still don't realize this even when it happens every time you catch a Pokemon in the games.
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>>124255513
>Getting out of the combat to bring a pokemon from storage
That's cheating you fucker!

Also
>attraction doesn't work on both females
No yuri ever
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>tfw Weezing & Arbok are lost
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>>124257232
That's probably the single worst episode in the entire show and I've never seen anyone defend it.
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>>124256630
>Looking for a boyfriend-free girl
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When the fuck are they finally going to retire this show? I feel like there can only be one or two regions with left for them to make in the games before shit becomes even more rediculous than it already is, and then it will just be a never-ending stream of reboots. Are they just gonna send Satoshi back to Kanto or Hoenn to bugger around there for a while? Are kids in 2020 even gonna give a shit about pokemon?
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>why is ash still in this shit!? It's been 15 years try something new for fucks sake!
>why isn't misty still in this shit!? Why are you changing what isn't broken?
I hate pokemon threads, I wish people would just talk about XY rather than being a retard over the differences to the old series. Serena best girl.
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>>124258411
Pokemon games are still some of the best selling games in the entire world, anon. They're not going to retire the franchise because some faggot on the Internet that doesn't even follow it says it's grown stale.
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>>124258567
Serena a perfect >>>/c/2384864
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>>124258567
What do you expect with an OP like this?
We have good threads from time to time. Like when Goomy went DBZ or Korrina vs Ash.
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>>124258411
>Are kids in 2020 even gonna give a shit about pokemon?
Yes because kids in 2020 didn't play the old games, if you aren't a child this show isn't meant for you. If you want to enjoy it you need to stop worrying about long term shit and enjoy the episodes.

>>124258694
Oh wonderful, some art I didn't have.

>>124258698
The Korrina vs Ash threads were nice, I must have missed the recent ones.
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