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Be as eloquent as possible
okay, nothing special, they didn't really know what they were doing
Good.
Needed More Nui
>>124085976
I liked it a lot it was fun to watch and the premise was interesting.
Maybe.
I guess they kinda tried to pay homage to Go Nagai but also to make fun of him, but in the end they did neither, they just made a regular action/magical girl anime with millenial designs.
Whatever.
>>124086073
The wild faces and copius blood weren't an homage?
This show, in Japan, it is consider masterpiece.
>>124085976
Pretty good and fun to watch
I don't even remember what it was about.
The idea was original and great. You can see if there was more budget (and may be more episodes) it would have become one of the best anime out there. The rare animation is glorious and even the economical animation is comical and makes the viewer ask for more. Really, trigger is the proud successor of gainax and they will probably do great things the day they'll have more budget than inferno cop's one.
It was a really fun show to watch with /a/ and it's fun watching it with /co/ ,just not as hype though.
KLK is a great anime. Watch it if you like fun and having a good time.
It's shit.
It was ok
Disappointing ending though. A lot of people overhyped it it when it came out and thought it was a masterpiece, and now they're realizing it was only decent.
Edge La Edge.
>>124086146
>You can see if there was more budget (and may be more episodes)
>implying an Aniplex show won't have a budget
You guys need to learn how to use the word budget correctly.
tis a beautiful thing to see m'lady
Peaked at episode 5, Gamagoori is best character.
It was fun. I like fun.
>>124085115
i've decided to save a collage of all the times somebody makes a "/a/s thoughts on klk" thread
unfortunately i decided to do this too late, and whichever faggot troll that was making 5 of these a day a few days ago has given up, so i only have one image. thanks for the second though.
It was good,but overhyped and became popular.
So by /a/ standards it was shit.
>>124085976
Utter shit, like seriously. The story was uncreative and repitive, the power levels entirely inconsistent, the developement completely predictable, the characters plain and the gags lame. Also even though it was an action anime the animation was only average which is simply not enough.
I feel like any complaint you could have against the show could be explained as irony
It's okay I guess
>>124086339
The taste of shit people gave you ironically is still shitty.
>>124086290
and in case you're wondering op, i thought it was shit.
>>124086335
>>124086438
Why am I not surprised that this is the post of a KlK fag?
It started off fun and full of character, but completely lost steam somewhere along the way. Its lack of cohesiveness makes me fairly sure that I wouldn't watch it again.
Tries to turn fanservice into art. Fails
Tries to use clothes as symbolism for... something. Fails
Tries to equal TTGL. Fails
>>124086603
>Tries to equal TTGL. Fails
The show really isn't that similar to TTGL. The only similarity is that both were really, really popular and had a lot of hype.
>>124085976
It was good fun.
Also gets extra points for having it's own unique sense of style unlike 98% of shit that comes out now days
>>124085976
Kill la kill as an anime suffers from something I find that a lot of such shows suffer from. That being a very steep rising action, as it were. The story almost completely changes its tone halfway through in such a way that I find myself asking if they were just winging it the whole time.
I liken it to a lot of shonen/shonen-esque anime. Such as Dragonball, Naruto, Gurren Lagaann that as a side effect of wanting to constantly raise the stakes and top themselves things become increasingly absurd and eventually feel like completely different series all together.
Now this isn't always inherently bad as some shows can pull this off well. But my aprehension with KLK comes from the fact that unlike some of the others it's just a much shorter anime. Even Gurren Lagann, which has the same amount of episodes feels more seperated due to the time skip that happens between parts that segments this issue.
The 2nd half of KLK introduces so much stuff and basically completely switches gears from the 1st half that it makes the two parts seem like two different animes.
That's the gist of where a majority of my complaints would be.
>>124085976
Ryuko a shit, Satsuki a best.
Great concept, designs, animation, and art. The premise was very cool.
I didn't really care for the alien reveal, and the plot sorta floundered midway through.
Overall, it's definitely an 8/10 show. Great, but not perfect.
I enjoyed it.
>>124087051
Plebeian
Very fun, but I feel the pacing suffered at the second half.
>>124087051
This.
>>124087362
faggot
>>124087481
Post more based goddess.
>>124087529
>>124086700
>The show really isn't that similar to TTGL.
Both have retarded nonsensical plots, both rely heavily on lolsorandumb (meme slang for constant asspullery) action scenes, both made by the same studio, both overrated as shit, both have edgy mc's, and both had shit endings. Seems just about the same to me.
I liked it.
>>124087581
>both made by the same studio
false
>>124085976
This anime has honestly changed my life.
I went into it not expecting much, considering that was hyped to shit. Holy fucking shit, was I blown away. I was hooked, like a baby to a tit with creamy foamy milk. I could feel the energy and hype flowing through my body, bringing light to my dull life. I resonated with Ryuuko. I could feel his struggle and his desire to surpass her limitations, something that struck me hard. Everything suddenly stopped when I heard the words:
DON'T LOSE YOUR WAY!
and I started trembling. That was me, I feel like I've been "Losing my way" these past years. I haven't been able to hold a steady job, my grades were starting to slip, and my parents suspect that I'm gay. It was right then and there that I knew that I had to get my shit together. I can't think of any other anime that has had such a profound effect on me, let alone on the first episode. Tomorrow, I'm going to be a better man. Thank you, Kill la Kill, thank you Trigger.
I'll never lose my way.
>>124087581
>both had shit endings
>TTGL Ending
>Shit
I could handle the rest of your bullshit but I won't fucking stand for that. Get out.
literally /v/ : the anime
1. Too much nonsense filler in the middle.
2. Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>124087559
>>124087677
>>124087823
what the fuck
>>124085976
I'm rewatching KLK and one thing I really like is how the effect certain characters have on the rest of the cast is portrayed in an outlandish, exaggerated sort of way for dramatic effect rather than the usual comedic one.
Also, Nui was the best villain you hate to love. She should have been the final boss instead of twitchy fingers Ragyou.
It was garbage.
>Watching Kill la Kill in the first place
All these ass hurt Gurren Lagann babies
never change /a/
Post the stuff they ripped inspiration off.
>>124088828
So, it seems like you were trying to say either "ripped off" or "took inspiration from" and just ended up jamming the two together.
Aside from that it was trash. Like dxd.
>>124088944
thatsthejoke.jpg
>>124086112
They're right.
>>124085976
I liked it. It's not 10/10 by any means, but worth the watch.
>>124088657
Gurren Lagann newfags then are today's KLK shitposters
I can believe that.
>>124087677
I missed this pasta.
Shit show considering plot and some animation but great fun nonetheless. Pretty enjoyable soundtrack.
>>124085976
Imagine watching a commercial for a new roller coaster ride, the one to beat them all. You go to six flags the next day, waiting in line. Your hype grows more and more for each minute. You get on the ride, and the cart is scaling up the gigantic ramp, and the the cart goes down, and you're feeling it. After that first downhill, comes another and you noticed it's pretty much the same, and so your hype gets lower and lower until the ride is over.
>>124089961
>I'm a gullible kid that falls for simple marketing
Okay, got it. I bet you buy games at launch too.
Post the wall run
>>124086056
HE SAID ELOQUENT YOU SAVAGE CUNT-BEAST!
>>124085976
Decent, could have been so good but it just turned into fanservice with an extremely generic "I want to defeat this person but it turns out this person is actually just a puppet" plot.
But that Satsuki ass though
>>124087811
>Satsuki will never sit on your face
Why even live?
>>124090199
It's shit.
Pretty disappointing and underwhelming, I remember forcing myself to get excited to try to experience some "modern day" gurren lagann. Pacing was a mess. Idea is cool but goes out of control after about 10 episodes
light 5 to strong 4
>>124090742
>"Modern Day" Gurren Lagann
Since when was Kill la Kill suppose to be Gurren Lagann? Gurren Lagann is Gurren Lagann not Kill la Kill you fucking idiot
>Gurren Lagann was only thing Imashi did prior to Kill la Kill.
Take off your blinders you angry dolt.
>>124091053
As in a show as good and exciting as Gurren Lagann
10/10 when Trigger has money
5/10 on the budget sections
But it has a killer soundtrack, so overall I give it a 9/10
>>124091181
He's asking why you would make such a comparison in the first place.
>>124085976
If they had made it half as long they would have had the budget to animate it equally well in every episode.
It was good, could have been better.
>>124091181
so your just a shitty fan then that can't except change PSG has more themes in common with KLK but your so stuck up TTGL's ass you can't see the forest for the trees ...your just as bad an EVA-fag
>>124091376
Pretty much have to agree with you here. Lots of potential, but didn't deliver on it. I loved it though
not as good as it's made to be by some, and definitely not as bad as it's made to be by others
if you take it seriously you're gonna have a bad time, and it's also not the epitome of japanese animation, they could also not use the same songs over and over again with different iterations, it could have been much better
however it's normalfag central so it attracts a lot of shitposters, like SnK but thankfully it'll die down, unlike SnK
>>124091482
>SnK but thankfully it'll die down, unlike SnK
Oh friend, KlK will be with us far, far longer than SnK will.
I liked the ending better when it was in Kamen Rider OOO.
>>124088657
>Watching Gurren Lagann in the first place
All these ass hurt Getter babies
never change /a/
>>124085976
I couldn't believe that you could possibly screw up a simple story like that but Trigger proved me wrong.
>>124091392
>except change.
I'm not even part of this argument but ...christ.
>>124085976
Enjoyable
Different animation style, reminded me of old cartoons
Some of the stuff was great seeing with /a/
Wasted potential on the episode after Mako reappeared using a star uniform thing
Godawful ending, bad OVA
Overall a 5.5/10 on a real scale
7.5/10 IGN it was the greatest thing ever
It's an okay show that people either treat like complete trash or a fucking masterpiece. I'm not kidding when I say I liked Inferno Cop more.
>inferno cop satirizes kill la kill before kill la kill even existed
what kind of wizardry is this
pretty good, just kind of awkward since it shifts between funny/parody to trying un-ironically to be serious a lot
>mako
>case in point
>>124091586
>there is a basic formula for this type of thing
Mind sharing?
>>124091053
>Since when was Kill la Kill suppose to be Gurren Lagann? Gurren Lagann is Gurren Lagann not Kill la Kill you fucking idiot
When Nakashima said it'd be more Gurren Lagann than Gurren Lagann.
>>124091692
Got a source on that? I remember someone saying it would be more Imaishi than Gurren Lagann was, but not that.
>>124091692
>>124091751
>Q: Did the whole series’ structure change as well?
>Nakashima: It’s still changing here and there.
>Imashi: And that makes it vastly different from TTGL. TTGL didn’t change very much from the first planned structure. But KLK is going beyond that.
>Nakashima: With KLK, the whole staff (with me included) submit ideas, like “Hey, this would be cool”, and the series’ layout keeps changing. It’s really a live production. If anything, it’s quite similar to the experience I had when I was producing weekly manga. With weekly manga, you keep developing/making things in the direction the characters are moving, so it’s really fun. KLK gave me that vibe.
http://flamingo-chan.tumblr.com/post/49964346263/kill-la-kill-imaishi-and-nakashima-interview
>>124091915
I don't know how you could get "more Gurren Lagann than Gurren Lagann" from that. He's talking about the story concept and focus changing so much from MOTW battle-manga to character drama.
>>124085976
I found it to be rather shallow and pedantic.
>>124085976
I don't think I can put into words how much I love it, what it means to me, at least not very concisely and eloquently.
Very few fictional things provoke strong emotions in me, but this show took me on a tour of the entire emotional spectrum; sadness, rage, jubilation, confusion, even childlike glee.
That's probably because the characters were the strongest aspect, they made you care about everybody, even the bad guys (well, the initial bad guys, not the true bad guys that were expressly designed to make you hate them, and that's still not a bad thing because it certainly succeeded.) And of course the voice actors sealed the deal with their delivery.
The Ride was certainly great, but even re-watching it (which I've done twice) is still fantastic.
Should have been even edgier.
I wanted Satsuki to be a real meanie when I saw the promo art. Characters should have lived and died from one episode to the next, the sole purpose to remove her from power.
A total snoozefest where nothing mattered because there were no rules and no consequences for anything, and no sense of dramatic buildup to give anything any kind of point at all. Horrible animation and washed of colours like every other digital anime despite the animation team working on it. Had one of the most poorly used soundtracks I have ever seen in the medium. The writer had to explain characterisation in out-of-show interviews because he failed so badly at conveying it in the show, despite it being a character drama.
Anyone who rates it higher than a 6/10 is kidding themselves.
>>124092331
>well, the initial bad guys, not the true bad guys that were expressly designed to make you hate them, and that's still not a bad thing because it certainly succeeded
I don't really disagree with you but making hateable villains is not difficult. Raygo and Nui are just crazy evil aliens, wholly without nuance or intrigue.
I feel like Trigger was overambitious when starting out and ended up cutting out a lot of things which really became apparent late in the show.
>>124092541
Ragyou's daughter molesting was pretty intriguing.
>>124092541
The child molestation angle could have had added more nuance had it clearly not just been an excuse for fanservice
>>124085976
The second half didn't make much sense, and trigger tried to cover it up by saying it was meant to be nonsensical, but that was a bad move. They should have spent more time hashing out the story so it was coherent.
I still had fun watching the show and discussing it with /a/.
Could be better, but not awful. 6-7/10
>>124092342
anime isn't allowed to have human villains because someone wrote something once about having total sympathetic motives and this was a big bombshell in japan so now they have to have aliens to have any villain at all
>>124085976
Fun
>>124091683
To understand the formula of any delinquent story we need to understand the point of any delinquent story. Usually a delinquent story is about youthful rebellion. What do young people rebel against? They rebel against adults or more precisely the system that those adults created. Who are the ultimate bad guys? Adults. Who are the ultimate bad guys in KLK? Aliens. I guess Ragyo is an evil adult but she was brainwashed by literal space aliens. And those aliens they don't stand for the system. Academy in Utena stands for the system, NERV and SEELE stand for the system, even Anti-Spirals stand for the system, hence ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER, but aliens in KLK are just aliens. And Ryuuko must stop them because humans are incomprehensible.
Strategic, rather than tactical failure.
The more I read comments from the staff, the more it's apparent this never had a chance to be good from the storyboards on.
>>124092511
>Horrible animation
>Cherry pick CGI
>poorly used soundtracks
>The writer had to explain characterization in out-of-show interviews because he failed so badly at conveying it in the show
>character drama.
>Kill la Kill
Are you stupid? how did the characters in Kill la Kill confuse you? this has got be bait.
>>124092331
OP, here. I'm glad I made this thread just to read this post.
I like you. You're a good person.
>>124092805
You could argue that the Life Fibers are essentially the "parents" of humanity by crafting them into a particular form to ultimately be consumed.
That said, I think the problem is that the Life Fibers really don't seem to have a will of their own. Ragyo is supposedly brainwashed by them but nothing really seems to support that outside of exposition. The Fibers bend constantly to her will but she still claims to be serving them. It's a bit contradictory.
>>124092805
>Kill la Kill
>delinquent story
For the first half maybe
>Aliens may just be aliens and not actaully symbolize anything
>This is bad thing because all anime by nature is mature and overflowing with symbolism
Okay.
>>124092805
>Clothes make the man
This is the theme for the rebellion as humorously symbolized by nudist beach.
>>124092541
Nui went beyond just being a hateable villain, she didn't even look like she belonged in the show, she looked more like a Precure character or something like that, from the very first moment she appeared on screen, before she even did anything horrendous, it was clear something was very, very wrong.
She came out of literally nowhere and ruined everything that was currently going on in one fell swoop: Sanageyama having redeemed himself and beaten Ryuko senseless and now finally getting to finish that fight? Gone, and he and his fans would be subjected to constant ridicule from then on. Ryuko's climb through the Elite Four to finally get some answers from Satsuki? Well, she got those answers, but she didn't like them, oh boy did she not like them, and neither did I.
In general I dislike when "kawaii uguu" little girl characters are competent or even superior fighters, so Ryuko being unable to even touch this frilly bitch that's standing perfectly still save for blocking attacks with her own scissor really ticked me off.
And it only got worse from there.
>>124093289
Jaaaaaaaaaaaan~
>>124093326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KFYko9WDF4&ab_channel=dickbutt
AW SON OF A BITCH!
>>124093289
That was definitely intentional though. It's not as if they put her in thinking she matched the tone. She existed for the express purpose of throwing a wrench into everything.
That said, I think you're probably right about it not really working. It completely kills the tension.
>>124092986
Who said anything about being confused? Nakashima had to make up characterisation that wasn't in the show because he forgot to actually write it into the story. This isn't difficult to understand and it should be obvious why it's a mark against the show. Don't debate me until you grow a brain.
>>124092944
>Strategic, rather than tactical failure.
10k sale is a failure.
Spawning imitators is failure.
>>124093289
Same feeling here. I think it was intentional.
I believe Nui was supposed to represent the over-saturation of the moe~ genre not only overtaking the anime market from "cool" shows of the past, but also being a cancer upon the medium as well. To the point where the industry was wholly RELIANT on cancer to exist, and would eventually destroy itself.
I for one am glad the moe boom is over, and the industry crashed and burned a little bit.
>>124093537
Sales figure mean nothing when it comes to success as a piece of art.
>>124093533
>Nakashima had to make up characterization
When did this happen? citation?
>>124093537
And Michael Bay movies are timeless masterpieces because lots of people pay money for them.
>>124093570
>I believe Nui was supposed to represent the over-saturation of the moe~ genre not only overtaking the anime market from "cool" shows of the past, but also being a cancer upon the medium as well. To the point where the industry was wholly RELIANT on cancer to exist, and would eventually destroy itself.
Not only do I highly doubt that this has any merit or was ever intended, but even if it was, fucking up your own show for the sake of such an obtuse and pointless message really, really isn't worth it. Hell, I don't think any message is worth ruining a show for.
>>124093583
>Kill la Kill wasn't TTGL 2.0 therefore it fails
You should write that down some where that way you for getting when you start shit posting?
The directing was excellent. Trigger basically made an art-form out of animating battle scenes with no budget. There are multiple anime that had BETTER budget yet still couldn't make their battles exciting (most of the fights in HunterxHunter for example). Soundtrack too was godly. The writing fell apart at the end but that's not very important in an action show.
Anyone who complains about a few tit ass shots or some of the goofier ideas probably hates anime. RE: Cutie Honey was even more lewd and had even more ridiculous ideas and came out more than a decade ago. It even had the same ultra fast pacing and color scheme.
could have been great if it were 1 cour, not sure how they could have possibly thought that the extremely retarded aliens crap or weak characterization was worth anyone's time
shit it could have been 3 cour and worked too, they could have fleshed out said retarded garbage and made it not retarded
>>124085976
Good source for waifues
>>124093639
>I am an actual mongoloid lacking all reading comprehension skills, critical thinking skills, or ability in the English language.
>>124093720
We know you are.
>>124093465
>>124093570
I know it was intentional, it was all towards the goal of making the most despicable character they could. I hate her, but I also appreciate just how much I hate her.
I didn't stop giggling the rest of they day when this happened; the moment of pause, the sound effect when they came off, her face, her screams of not just rage, but absolute shock and bewilderment, unable to believe what just happen to her, everything was perfect.
Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone's over-inflated ego finally get popped.
>>124093637
>intended, but even if it was, fucking up your own show for the sake of such an obtuse and pointless message really, really isn't worth it. Hell, I don't think any message is worth ruining a show for.
I don't think Nui ruined the show.
Even if I hated her character.
>>124093585
>>124093533 is taking this >>124091915 interview out of context this is before the show had even aired it's perfect normal to describe characters when asked to in an interview.
he's just a hateful retard
Excellent patchwork show with homages and references to things you'd never expect and some fantastic character development
However, it is a parody first and foremost and a very ham-fisted one at that, and the clothing-centric themes kind of wear thin in the middle stretch of the show
The generic tournament arc with its one good episode (the Satsuki versus Ryuuko fight which is ultimately, just like Berserketsu, never relevant afterwards) and overall lack of effective parody elements seen in earlier episodes (such as Ryuuko's "training arc" which takes only half an episode and isn't even the focus of it) brings the show down and the subsequent QUALITY of the immediately following episodes made the show hard to watch on a week-to-week basis
Harime Nui and Ragyo are both potentially competent villains but the series doesn't really build them up into anything but a gaggle of lesbian psychopaths with a fetish for oppression and oppressive clothing, with only a sliver of a hint of motive provided for the latter in the OVA episode (which is much, much more of a final episode than the generic space battle finale)
I'm really hoping Trigger announces TTGL-style compilation movies, the series could desperately use them
>>124093746
I was quoting you, anon.
>>124093570
>>124093465
Nui was unintentionally terrible, I don't think you realise how hard she bombed as a concept. The pathetic backpeddling of the scriptwriter on twitter and NewType as he tried to force some kind of depth and personality onto her is proof of how poorly conceived she was. She's the worst written character in a show where every character is atrociously written.
>>124093773
Agreed, I'm definitely overstating her negative effect. It just kills much of the dramatic pacing that had been built up over the previous episodes.
>>124093753
Agreed, this scene is fantastic. The fall of the aloof villain is still one of my favorite tropes, even if it is played out to all hell.
>>124093814
No, I'm not, I'm basing it on things Nakashima said after the show aired. Once again
>Don't debate me until you grow a brain.
>>124093289
Nui was pure clothing, hence why she was animated in flash, looked like a flamboyant lolita and only existed to ultimately meddle with the cast and audience
Every scene she's in is clothed in her disgustingly cutesy theme and shrill voice
>>124093930
> I'm basing it on things Nakashima said after the show aired
Like?
>>124093846
I don't recall saying that.
>>124093570
You're an idiot. You clearly think that what you watched on Toonami is representative of "anime's past". Nui was a villain, she was meant to be entertaining, unpredictable, and super cute.
She doesn't "represent the state of the industry" anymore than that ginger-haired jew is supposed to represent the struggling middle class in a socio-economic bullshit paradigm.
"Moe" has always been a part of the industry. Look at Dream Hunter Rem or literally any magical girl show ever made. Magical girl shows are awesome.
The reason we don't have "cool action shows" like Guyver or Fist of the North Star anymore is because Otaku are self-conscious and don't want to watch an action show about "Hunks who beat up other hunks". Their action star needs to be a scrawny high-school kid with a magical katana or some overly complex rule set for magic that sounds like a bad jrpg. No blood or death allowed either. Boring.
It would have been pretty good if they had cut the early filler episodes and the entire war subplot.
I felt like they ended up in space because it needed to be like TTGL, despite not making any fucking sense.
The final fight was a letdown as well.
>>124093831
Berserker is relevant because that's what Ryuko's afraid she really is, even before she knew she was a hybrid she tells Senketsu she's afraid of herself and of hurting him again, and that she was aware it was all her who was going berserk. That segways into her existential crisis in the tail end of the show.
Ragyo and Nui are meant to be puppets themselves, Nui a puppet of a puppet but even Ragyo is just a slave to OLF.
>>124093959
Not gonna happen you're being baited he'll keep claiming he's got this so called "evidence" of Nakashima's characterization explanation
>>124091529
nope, klk isn't even half as big as snk has come to be, you're a fool to think otherwise
>>124094158
>Berserker is relevant
no, it isn't
it happened one time, was resolved incosequentially and was never brought up again
Disappointment of the millenium. Now idiots will think twice before overhyping trigger shit.
It was okay. It wasn't the greatest anime of all time, but it was pretty good and had some original elements. The pacing was the worst aspect of it.
>>124092331
>the characters were the strongest aspect
>>124093865
>every character is atrociously written
How can a show be THIS polarizing?
>>124093943
Exactly, she went beyond antagonizing the characters, she antagonized the viewers with her very presence.
>>124094231
the voice acting and the music were the strongest aspects of the show bar none
they were so good that I would go out on a limb and say that I would have dropped the show if these two things had not been as good as they were
Nui's suicide was so extremely anticlimatic I just couldn't give a fuck past that point.
>>124094231
>anon 1 knows how to be lighthearted and not take life so seriously
>anon 2 is cancer
>>124094231
see here >>124088657
People with extreme hate for this show are Gurren Lagann kids
>>124094192
SnK is certainly more popular now, but KLK has a fuck ton more staying power simply due to how polarizing it is, as well as how it is the first entry from a studio that will probably get much, much bigger. SnK will pretty much be forgotten about as soon as the next popular show comes along, but I have a feeling we'll be having these KLK threads for a LOOOOOONG fucking time.
>>124094178
If you haven't read Nakashima's tweets after episode 22 and his final NewType interview then you shouldn't be talking about it. This is what I mean by growing a brain (that I've had to repeat three times now). If you can't look for a post-show interview when you're told there's a post-show interview then you're in no position to make any kind of argument.
>>124093058
>>124092331
>how to spot the newfags
>>124094132
>filler episodes
The final fight ended up in space because there's a major star motif going on in the show. The life fibers are stars, Ryuko is a shooting star, Senketsu is the red Sirius, Satsuki shines pretending to be a star, Ragyo dreams of going to the stars, stars are tears, etc.
The final fight was garbage, but then again there weren't many decent "fights" in the show at all.
>>124094158
It's relevant to Ryuuko but no one else whatsoever, and the lack of inner monologue really hurts the connection between that event and her escapades with Junketsu
Also theNUCLEARRagyo in the OVA episode hints that she did have some reason for bending to the OLF's will, as well as manipulating others to follow her; it would've been great to see her have an actual spiel on why the human race deserved to be subjugated rather than just MUH LIFE FIBERS, SO SUPERIOR, and Nui similarly was shown to have emotional issues and could have easily been better fleshed out or played with more thematic depth than intentional obnoxiousness
>>124093570
holy fuck, there are people that shitpost, say stupid things and fuck up the threads, and then there are the complete idiots like you that have no idea about what they're talking about
I regret even putting effort into typing this, but holy shit I just fellt like letting you know
>>124094333
yes so post the ones you are referring to then. Oh, let me guess it's all from your o so reliable memory or in other words your ass!
>>124094231
>Exactly, she went beyond antagonizing the characters, she antagonized the viewers with her very presence.
And yet she was intended to be a tragic, sympathetic character.
I get that Trigger and Gainax have done a lot of self-referential shit in the past but that doesn't mean everything they do is incredibly meta. Nui is an infuriating character because Trigger had no idea what they were doing, not because of some post-ironic attempt to make the viewer mad.
>>124094193
It didn't have to happen again, it was a very important turning point in Ryuko's character arc. And it actually is brought up again Ryuko worries about it a few times after getting Senketsu back.
>>124094326
this is your opinion and all, and even though I don't completely disagree these are some big Ifs, you're assuming lots of things
>>124094441
Yeah, but it doesn't really ever seem like a threat. No one else seems particularly concerned about it and at no point does it actually seem like Ryuko might go into Berserk mode again.
>>124094437
>not because of some post-ironic attempt to make the viewer mad.
I'm not that anon, but I think Nui was there to be annoying. I have no idea if that archetype is popular, but I do know it isn't uncommon
>>124094452
Oh no, absolutely. This is essentially pure speculation.
Disappointing
Started out great, plot got more retarded and fights got shittier as it went on culminating in an underwhelming finale. There were many things I didn't like about it but I can see the appeal, sort of.
Actually really sick of /a/ arguing over whether it was shit or not and making this thread every day, I don't know why I'm responding.
>>124091529
You are incorrect, though.
SnK will have second or even comings due to being an ongoing series. KLK is over. Finished. It was a flavor of the season that It gained a cult following a la FLCL, but asking more from it it's futile.
Even Trigger themselves and Nakashima are just fine with moving on and plan new projects.
>>124094399
>It's relevant to Ryuuko but no one else whatsoever
I mean, it's Ryuuko's story.
>>124094608
Except when Satsuki is stealing the show
Or when Senketsu is stealing the show while on Satsuki's superior bodice
>>124094499
Yeah, that's the point. Ryuko swore she'd never hurt Senketsu again and he wouldn't let her go berserk again. But even though Ryuko made some progress as a character, in her head the self-doubt and self-loathing stuck with her for a while.
>>124094572
SnK is an utterly forgettable series, and no amount of popularity, reboots, or new seasons is going to keep it from fading into obscurity once it too, finally ends. As evidenced here, in this thread created a year after the conclusion of Kill la Kill, people are going to be talking about this show for a long time. Obviously, the frequency of these threads will drop, but they will still be around.
>>124094646
Satsuki's Vergil, she gets a show steal, but it's still not her show. And Senketsu only ever steals the show to give it back to Ryuko, and why shouldn't he, he's riding shotgun in all this.
>>124085976
LOLSORANDUMBXD: the anime
oh wow look at this babby's first fucking stereotyped mainstream sell-out garbage autismal mediocre low-budget casual low-powerlevel ADHD hardsubs streamfag hyped spoon-fed otaku-pandering objectively bad aspie haremshit overrated DEEP deconstruction NTR cliche trope-filled generic ANGST mary sue underage escapist self-insert PLOT armor beta MC shonen edgy teenager gratuitous shock-value gore broken-powerlevels moeshit corporate product placement weeaboo kawaii uguu~ fetishist suspension of disbelief random asspulls garbage slutty waifu sakurafish Gainax bouncing fanservice NEET-pandering downs syndrome filler arcs beach onsen vapid 4kids dubbed censored episodes WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS cutout sameface 1-dimensional yaoi fujoshitbait characters shipperfag yuri tsundere fanwank braindead insulting and poorly written rushed and atrocious inconsistent convoluted vocaloid pedoshit last-place-on-sale-charts nolstagia googles grimDERP nico-nico 2ch otaku-pandering suffering porn ahegao face consumerist kiddy casual pretentious failed experimental anti-USA nanking-rape denying trainwreck watered-down plothole-ridden homoshit Evangelion wannabe hollywood rip-off unoriginal yandere RAPE RAPE RAPE lol so randum/b/ xD uninteresting anticlimactic DROPPED shallow haircut character development cancerous butchered DEEN QUALITY 8 frames per second mouthflapping powerpoint slideshow outsourced korean putrid soulless CG animation photoshop-filter backgrounds poorly done JC Staff adaptation hipster entry-level timeskip forced drama cop-out power of friendship deus ex machina predictable tearjerker TWEEST BONES original content shit ending with circlejerking delusional and easily trollable flavor of the month general threads imagedumps tripfaggotry sadpanda.jpg vlcsnap shitkaku 4:3 14 inches CRT Mac monitor arrogant retarded Guy Fawkes mask facebook protests cosplayer dubs-obsessed niwaka fanbase that's killing the DARKNESS industry -production
>>124086335
>the power levels entirely inconsistent
Were they, really? I think it was pretty clear who could beat who at any time, and you could always tell when a characters' power level increased (if anything, it was kinda shoved in the viewers face, intentionally obviously).
The only thing that felt out of place, power-wise, was Ryuko somehow managing to power out of Junketsu despite the fact that is was sown directly into her and it was physically impossible to remove (although that might have been Nui lying in order to make everyone lose hope).
>>124094499
This ain't some neverending Jump series where the MC grapples with their anger issues for 200 episodes, culminating in a battle with a physical manifestation of the darkness inside them.
She realized after Nui destroyed Senketsu that she can't mope around like that forever, she's gotta get shit done! At the very least she was able to keep it under control, until she found out she wasn't human and was nothing but a weapon in the eyes of her father, that was enough to bring it boiling back to the surface.
Now that I think about it, I think she rejected and insulted Senketsu when she woke up because she was afraid they'd become that monster again if she put him on.
Decent beginning with a fun premise marred by a shit second half and a shoe-horned attempt at a catchphrase.
They also didn't go beyond the milky way in the final battle so it's automatically shit.
>>124094899
A little thing like dying isn't going to stop her from wearing Senketsu.
>>124085976
The Only thing worse than KLK is it's fan base
>>124094326
>SnK will pretty much be forgotten about as soon as the next popular show comes along,
That already happened with KLK. The main reason KLK is still being talked about it's because newfags and toonamifags.
>But I have a feeling we'll be having these KLK threads for a LOOOOOONG fucking time.
Only one sporadic thread a week in the whole "now that the dust was settled" and similar that most of the times, never reach 200 posta as opposed to thegeneralsthe Snk fanbase have?
It's going to reach FLCL or even a softer version of TTGL levels at most. And that's actually a good thing, in my opinion
>>124094951
>Now that I think about it, I think she rejected and insulted Senketsu when she woke up because she was afraid they'd become that monster again if she put him on.
This is purely speculation though. Nothing in that episode indicates that this would be the case. I don't feel like I'm asking for much here. Just bring up themes that have been explored and threats that are supposed to be relevant.
>>124094951
>Now that I think about it, I think she rejected and insulted Senketsu when she woke up because she was afraid they'd become that monster again if she put him on.
I think so too. That's why she's crying "bitter tears" like he was.
>>124095034
The only reason there are SnK generals is because the second season is still coming up and the manga is still being written. Also, I see hardly any shitfits, argument, or even much discussion going on in those threads. Its basically just fans talking about an ongoing anime. I don't think we are going to see many threads like this about SnK.
>>124094951
>Now that I think about it, I think she rejected and insulted Senketsu when she woke up because she was afraid they'd become that monster again if she put him on.
I thought that was pretty obvious?
![[OZC]Ghost+in+the+Shell+S.A.C.+2nd+GIG+E11+'Affection'.mkv_snapshot_20.31_[2012.05.11_09.46.22].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nlisGZz.jpg "[OZC]Ghost+in+the+Shell+S.A.C.+2nd+GIG+E11+'Affection'.mkv_snapshot_20.31_[2012.05.11_09.46.22].jpg")
>>124095002
The only thing worse than KLK are the haters and shit posters
FTFY
I know you can see this right
>>124094730
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>>124086243
pure cancer how is this not worse?
>>124086728
Ayimi is right. KlK was shit.
>>124086797
Fucking Jar Jar Binks.
>>124095150
>Also, I see hardly any shitfits, argument, or even much discussion going on in those threads.
That's pretty much the same with the one or two KLK nowadays. This one being a relatively ok thread until someone starts with the waifufagging or the shitposting like >>124086243 and others.
They are not that different from each other.
>>124091635
Inferno Cop was borderline perfect.
>>124095224
The hatedom is so loud because the fandom started it.
Also that sonic one is made by a klk fan.
>>124095000
Apparently the phrase "wearing him on the inside" wasn't just something to help her feel better.
When he and Mako went inside her, the inner Ryuko took off that wedding dress and put on Senketsu, so she's literally always wearing him on the inside. She was able to rip off the Kamui she was currently supposed to be permanently wearing on the outside and survive because she had another one inside.
Even when his physical body was destroyed, the inner Ryuko was still wearing the inner Senketsu, so she still heard his voice and saw his singed ghost in her hour of need. He even summoned the scissors from space for her.
If the series were to continue, I imagine Ryuko would start to plumb the depths of her Life Fiber powers, learning how to shapeshift into Senjin, Shippu, and whatever other forms she can think of on her own.
>>124091635
Inferno Cop >>>> KLK.
Though, I enjoyed certain KLK characters more.
>>124095411
>strawman shit
Where are these so called shitty fans in this thread? I see a discussion sprinkled with shitposting like >>124095326
Whats the big fucking deal?
>>124086335
>Taking "power levels" seriously.
Are you fucking retarded? Keep that shit in DBZ.
In any other anime, it's normally about technique and split second decisions that win a fight, not numbers you bumbling butterbutt.
>>124093698
>There are multiple anime that had BETTER budget yet still couldn't make their battles exciting (most of the fights in HunterxHunter for example).
>Netero vs Meruem
Fuck off, kid.
>>124094437
>And yet she was intended to be a tragic, sympathetic character.
Really? Because I'm pretty sure she was literally 100% evil. So much so that she offs herself without a thought to help Ragyo succeed. If she were sympathetic or tragic in the slightest, there would have been at least a tiny bit of emotion in her death, as opposed to, well, none.
>>124095426
>I imagine Ryuko would start to plumb the depths of her Life Fiber powers, learning how to shapeshift into Senjin, Shippu, and whatever other forms she can think of on her own.
No, she'll get pregnant and give birth to a baby Senketsu who she'll raise as her son and he'll be the new MC who will do those things.
>>124095000
...Okay, yeah, there was that. You have me there.
>>124095510
The majority of klk fans are cross borders, which is why the hatedom is louder than the fandom on /a/.
Go to the toonami general on /co/ and you'll find pure cancer.
>>124095553
Life Fibers aren't hereditary, Ragyou had to experiment on both her kids to try to infuse them with Life Fibers like herself.
>>124095683
I should clarify. By "pregnant" I mean Senketsu could totally sprout from her body like an amoeba-tumor because power of friendship.
>>124087677
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah wat
>>124085976
Pretty good spectacle but, nothing special overall. Budget was kind of tight but they made good use of shortcuts letting them put it where it needed to be. Seemed unfocused though, feels like they drop a subplot ever other episode.
>>124085976
Honestly wasn't a huge fan of it, but it did have some fucking great characters.
>>124095718
I went looking if there was any art of Sonketsu, there's a lot of humanizing, but only as a boyfriend or father figure.
I did find this though, which reminds me; apparently at one point in development Senketsu was going to be a Covers that Isshin tamed.
>>124095734
It's a Pasta.
Started off really good, got progressively worse with every episode.
>>124089022
>>124096001
>It's a Pasta
A real Pasta.
I WILL NEVER LOSE MY WAY.
Thankyo KLK
>>124092331
My nigga
I just finished re-watching it myself and it still gets me hyped every time.
I do realize its not the best thing out there, but I still find it enjoyable and it helped me rekindle my love of anime
If I like Klk and Watamote what other anime should I watch?
>>124096812
boku no pico
>>124096812
If you want to get the full experience of Kill la Kill, there are obligatory shows you need to see.
Gunbuster and Diebuster, of course, Ashita no Joe, Aim for the Ace!, Mazinger, Devilman, Votoms, Honoo no Tenkousei. Cutie Honey. and many others.
DONT LOSE YOUR WAY
>>124097322
Seriously kill yourself
>>124097810
No need to be shy. You may use my recommendations to raise your own powerlevel as well.
Although it won't make you a better person.
>>124087633
Same writer and director.
Not same studio.
>>124090417
WASH AWAY THE STAINS OF TIME
>>124085976
My thought are that Satsuki x Ryuuko is OTP.
>>124097415
IN THE DARK
