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-Who do you like better?
-Who would you rather spend a night of sex with?
-Who has better harem?
-Who is better written?
-Who would win in a fight?
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Poll: http://www.poll-maker.com/poll290694x1364446E-11
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>>123883956
Shiki fucks his sister, so he wins hands down
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>>123884088
>sister
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>>123883956
Shiki.
Kohaku.
Shiki.
Shirou.
Shiki with his brain exploding five seconds later.
Move on.
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>>123883956
Shiki
If I really need to choose then Shiki
Shiki
Shirou
Shiki
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>>123883956
Ryougi Shiki.
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>>123883956
>-Who do you like better?
Shirou.
>-Who would you rather spend a night of sex with?
Neither.
>-Who has better harem?
Arc>Sakura, so Shiki.
>-Who is better written?
Shirou.
>-Who would win in a fight?
Shirou as an adult, otherwise Shiki.
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Why there no typemoon material about 2stronk old man traveling through the multiverse?
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>>123883984
I am the bone of my bot
Script is my body and proxies are my blood
I have cast over a thousand votes
Unaware of IP check, Nor aware of fairness
Withstood pain to cast votes, waiting for another's arrival
I have no regrets. This is the only path
My whole life was Unlimited Proxy Works
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>>123884358
Fuck you.
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>Shiki
Literally who?
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>>123883956
Shirou
Rather a jackhammer than a rapist; Shirou
Shirou, barely
Shirou
Shiki
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>>123884864
Someone who already started adding Fate girls to his harem
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>>123885030
>Caren
>A whore that would fuck literally anyone that asks her
She is part of everyone harem.
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>>123885030
>he who rapes everyone
>she who is "raped" by everyone
It's like pottery.
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>>123885175
In All Around TM Drama cd and those Radio dramas she's Shiki stalker. Slut now wants only his dick
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>>123885438
>she's Shiki stalker
She will still spread her legs for any man that wants her. If he falls for her it would just end in him getting NTRed.
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>>123885669
He will "cure" here from being a whore with his dick
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>>123885813
*her
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>>123883956
Shiki
Shiki
Shiki
Shiki
Shiki
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>>123883956
Does Shiki SAVE EVERYONE?
No?
I didn't fucking think so.
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>>123886133
Shirou couldn't save Ilya.
I will never forgive him.
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>>123886133
did shirou save kirei?
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Shiki
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>>123886133
He arguably saves more people by killing Nero and Roa though.
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>>123886407
>posting wrong Shiki
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>>123886133
Does Shirou RAPE ANYONE?
No?
I didn't fucking think so.
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>>123886281
He saves her in Fate Route. He just doesn't fuck her.
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>>123886281
>Shirou doesn't save Ilya
>Ilya saves Shirou

Ilya best onee-chan
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>>123886585
She only lives like a year or two after that though. She deserves to live forever.
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>>123886585
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I want to save Sacchin
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Shiki has the far superior harem. Akiha is the worst Tsuki girl, and she's still superior to Sakura. Arcueid is unequivocally best girl in both series.
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>>123886873
Her Origin is [Bad End], you can't.
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>>123883956
Shirou x 5.
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>>123883984
>Shiroi 1813
>Shiki 13
Ayy
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>>123883956
Shiki>Shiki>Shiki>Shiki
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>>123883956
>Who do you like better?
Shiki

>Who would you rather spend a night of sex with?
Shiki looks like he would share

>Who has better harem?
Shiki

>Who is better written?
None

>Who would win in a fight?
Shirou
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>>123886718
Blame Old Man Acht for that, not Shirou.
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>>123886873
Who?
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>>123887048
But Shiki's harem is shit.
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>>123886928
>Akiha is the worst Tsuki girl
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>>123887008
French girls are needy.
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>>123887143
This is a Christian image board and Christians believe in monogamy, Yusuf. Marriage with a daughteru > harem
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>>123886873
We can't save everyone. Because the game didn't let us.
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>>123887143
Kokutou best and most French-sounding boy to be with. I love watching these two together while I am more interested in watching Shirou deal with his own insanity rather than who he dicks. Tohno isn't worth going into.
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>>123887242
Shiki got superior daughteru
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Only a real man can wear this shirt.
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>>123887262
What sort of miracle Shiki pulls out to save Sacchin in her route?
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>>123887414
I would not want to die looking at that shirt.
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>>123887327
Fucking what? Had the second part been released already?
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>>123887414
That shirt kinda iconic though.
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>>123884232
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>>123887637
Oh, it has.
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I want Shiki to fart on me!
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>>123887985
I wish to stick my finger up the Shiki's butthole, pull it out and smell it.
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>>123887985
I want to "fuck" her.
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Best girl
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>>123888321
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>>123888466
>You will never have maids that will do bad Gundam cosplay for you
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>>123888297
>>123888321
>>123888133
Mikiya please go.
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If Ryougi and Nanaya have sex, how long would it be?

How crazy/wild would it be?

Think about it, they're both monsters in the sack

Fuck, I'm getting a boner thinking about it
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>>123888872
Nanaya is murdersual. The only thing he likes to stick is a knife and not in natural holes. Ryougi is Kokuto's bitch. So they will try kill each other and nothing else.
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>>123889020
Would Aoko, Shiki, Saber, and Arcueid get along with each other?
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>>123889317
It's not like they have anything against each other. Outside their storylines they're fairly normal people.
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>>123887008
>No Sella
Unacceptable
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>>123887327
Who's the mother?
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>>123883956
Shiki
Shirou
Shiki
Shirou is a better character, but Shiki is better written.
Depends on a lot of things.
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>>123888466
She definitely is
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>>123889317
>>123889486
Saber might be the odd one out there. The other three really are monsters.
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>>123888466
She just looks so cute in a turtleneck.
Why is there only one scene with her like that?
Whatever, it's a miracle of the universe. Turtlenecks really make everything better.
Arcueid too.
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>>123889529
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>>123889972
Hey, Saber might be a jobber, but she is still a time-travelling King Arthur. I think he deserves to be called a monster too.
Also, it's arguable if she is weaker than Shiki. Saber would probably win a straight fight between them.
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>>123883956
Shiki (he doesn't really use chauvinist reasoning to protect women)
Shiki (because he pulls in a lot of women just by talking)
Shiki (Arcueid and Sion)
Shiki (doesn't have to rely on battle shonen character development bullshit)
Shiki (Nasu said so)
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>>123885438
>In All Around TM Drama cd and those Radio dramas she's Shiki stalker.
Why would she even stalk Shiki?
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>>123890351
>Shiki (he doesn't really use chauvinist reasoning to protect women)
Go cry about it on tumblr faggot.
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>>123887200
Actually, she isn't. People that do that ship don't even make sense. The two MCs are the polar opposites of each other in terms of inside and outside. How Ciel can fall for anyone else other than Shiki really makes no sense.
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>>123890345
Shiki can match weak servants according to Nasu. Saber is far stronger.
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>>123890426
Just sayin. I don't think it's all that fine. Even Nasu thinks it's bullshit.
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>>123890485
Ryougi can only do defensive battles with Servants at her very peak (3rd) and that part of her is already "dead."
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>>123890419
Shiki a cute. I would stalk him too
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>>123887129
People always speculate on what happens after HF and UBW, but I'd like to see Shirou traveling to Russia to give Acht his comeuppance,.
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>>123887048
>implying
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>>123883956
HASEGAWA KODAKA
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>>123890419
Think about it. Caren's job is fucking weird possessed or supernatural humans. Shiki is kinda close to being possessed and he's not normal at all.
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>>123890647
Never mind the fact that they also exist in different universes. Powerlevel arguments are always bullshit but it's easier to just focus on characters at their peak.
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>>123890551
Nasu was talking about how he hated making Shirou act that way in the Fate simply because he couldn't get over genderswapping Saber. In his mind at the time, Saber was still a man; so, he regrets not knowing how to write the situation better. Shirou doesn't show that kind of sexism in either UBW or HF.
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>>123889486
Goddamn, I love this image. Arc looks especially beautiful.
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>>123890877
He was quoting Nasu.
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>>123890849
Isn't he like the opposite of possessed, really?
I mean, he specifically comes from a clan of demon hunters.
Yeah, sure, he has a few screws loose, but it's not like Caren deals with that. She only deals with demons.
And his supernatural powers pretty much come from the same source as Caren - it's psychic powers, not demonic powers.
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>>123890784
I've always wanted that to happen; however, it feels like only UBW Shirou would do seeing as he's still traveling the world to be a hero. HF Shirou stays at the home for the most part, and he doesn't to have a reason to train his reality marble at all.
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>>123890919
*route
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Shiki wins easily. He's an actual superhuman, and he has the Queen of Type Moon in his harem.
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>>123883956

Shiki. Shirou is shit and anyone who likes him is shite.
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>>123891015
At the end of HF Rin does mention that with training Shirou should be able to Master his RM in a few years.

I got the impression that the only relatively vanilla Shirou is Fate Shirou.
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>>123890953
I know the quote, it's the fantranslation in the wikia. It doesn't make what I said any less true, powerlevels are dumb and you should always take characters at their peak level.
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>>123891074
I have always wondered how overpowered Shiki can become if he uses his above average magus potential and reinforces his already OP self.

Also, yeah, that queen has everything.
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>>123891150
At the end of UBW you mean
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>>123891223
Not him, but no; she does specifically mention it at the end of HF True. Reread it if you don't believe me.
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>>123891205
He would be godlike.
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>>123891223
No, in UBW he already used his RM. In HF he mentions during the last Berserker fight that he can't use it. That's what Rin is talking about.
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>>123891150
UBW Good Shirou would be the best off. Gets to train with Saber and Rin together.
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>>123891298
Well for mastering I thought that you meant perfecting the use of the RM. Though I should re-read HF True
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>>123891205
What makes Shiki OP?
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>>123883956
Shirou
Rider
tie, can't choose
Shirou
Shiki obviously
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>>123891403
He has a perfect superhuman body from back when people could become servants.
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>>123887469
He doesn't. They become DAAs together and have lusty vampire sex in an abandoned warehouse while Arc watches.
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>>123891403
If you've actually read his feats and fights, and you remember the powerlevel scales of who he defeats, he's actually monstrous already. As one poster before me posted, he can run as fast as Usain Bolt for 15 straight minutes. With no prior training for running in the past 8 years. Aside from having a huge dick the size of Kohaku's arm, I'm pretty sure that Shiki's Japanese and not a Westerner. He's a 5'7" Japanese guy.
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More importa question Can Arc get pregnant by Shiki?
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>>123891494
>Melty Blood is based on Sacchin route
>Shiki never shows any signs that he fucked her prior to MB
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>>123891469
He is still a little worse
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>>123891555
If they try hard enough then yes. Their offspring would be Altrouge Jr. though.
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>>123891403
He has lifeforce getting drained out of him and he's still a stamina beast.
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>>123891328
> Gets to train with Saber and Rin together
He would have no strength or free time having to fuck both of them on daily basis
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>>123891716
>doubting Shirou "The Jackhammer" Emiya
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>>123891716
They'll fuck in UBW to see how long he can last under the pressure.
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>>123890244
how much Liz is in Prisma?

it might be worth picking up for her alone
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>>123891764
>jackhammer
>penis is literally a needledick
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>>123891524
>Aside from having a huge dick the size of Kohaku's arm
what
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>>123891813
Enough to warrant watching it for her alone.
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>>123891813
Here and there but not much. They're not in Season 2 either. Don't expect much. I still recommend it.
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>>123890351
>thinking Shirou wasn't just using that as an excuse to try and deal with how useless he was in the situation

kid couldn't accept that he was powerless to fight and die for justice and that was the only lame excuse he could come up with why he should be allowed to throw his life away
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Whoever wins, Gilgamesh loses.
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When Shiki couldn't kill Akiha in Kohaki's route is the point that I realized that Tohno Shiki was best boy. If he would have done it I would have dropped the VN right then and there.
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>>123891941
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>>123891971
Jokes on you, he actually kills her in one end.
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>>123892047
Which one? Not in any of the good, normal, or true endings, but band endings yes.
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>>123891971
>I would have dropped the VN right at the end of the last route, after having read and enjoyed it thoroughly until that moment.
Wow, what a loss that would be. You wouldn't have read, like the 15 remaining minutes.
Plus Eclipse.
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>>123883956
Wow when did takeuchi redraw Shiki? I like him there
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>>123892133
That's right.
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>>123892135
Melty Blood
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>>123892111
>but band endings yes.
>band
Shiki and the pussycats when?

First Kohaki, now band. Take it easy mate, no need to type it that vigorously.
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>>123892198
My bad m8, but which ending were you referring to? The ending where he keeps his promise to Akiha?
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>>123892274
No it's a bad end in Kohaku's route.
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>>123892331
And that's why it's a bad end.
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But can Shiki kill Gilgamesh ?
Reminder Gilgamesh might underestimate him
and nanaya blood can't active unless he face a demon.
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>>123892198
>Shiki and the Angry Gland
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>>123892398
Yes, there is always a chance for Shiki speed blitz.
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>>123892500
>we will never get an Ayako route
Why Nasu, why?
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>>123892585
Because she had to pretend to be dating her brother because she can't get a man.
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>>123892500
>>123892585
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>>123886133
Too bad that Shirou's ideals aren't realistic. You can't save everyone, and neither could Shirou.
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>>123892448
>Shiki
>speedblitzing a Servant
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Why did Gilgamesh need this fuckhead as a Master? Isn't he already bound to the material world via Grail majutsu?

Also if he just needed a vessel for the magic cup, he surely could have used any random hobo off the streets.
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>>123885813
This is so cute
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>>123892792
Gil sort of likes Shinji.
>>123892783
Yes, 100 percent serious.
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>>123892783
>Shiki not speedblitzing someone that is 4x slower/less powerful than Arcueid
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>>123892747
Except that Shirou did. Because he's a hero.
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>>123892846
>>123892853
Sorry, but I don't recall Shiki breaking the sound barrier.
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>>123892747
That's why I thought Shirou was unbearable. He is just flat out stupid.
At least in HF he ditches the stupid ideals and strives to save his waifu and little/big sister.
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>>123892891
You aren't recalling correctly. Also, servants speed changes every other fight.
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Why is he so pure?
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>>123892398
Gilgamesh is the biggest fucking jobber in the TM universe, so yes. Loses to Saber, loses to Shirou, loses to Sakura. And in all those occasions, it is because he goes goes easy.
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>>123892969
>Also, servants speed changes every other fight.

Shirou with just the arm of a Servant broke the sound barrier. Something that Shiki never did.
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>>123893042
You don't know that. Shiki has higher potential than his father who thought servant speed was slow. Shiki also cut Arcueid up into 17 pieces instantly.
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>>123892783
Well, technically Shirou did exactly that in their fight.
Though Shiki has no UBW but he does have MEoDP which he can use to kill the treasures if needed.
I do wonder if the result of the fight will be the same as the fight with Shirou or better or worse, though.
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>>123892792
>Isn't he already bound to the material world via Grail majutsu?
Not really, no.
Unless you can explain the almost-dead-but-not-quite-dead orphans some other way. Been a while since I read that part.
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>>123893134
Yes, he is bound to the world via Grail majutsu.
The oprhans are just there for giggles and Kirei enjoying himself. Well, that, and spamming Ea.
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>>123892783
If Gil isn't serious, any number of characters could beat him. That's his fatal flaw.

>>123892967
Great taste
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Well.
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>>123893129
Then post proof that he did.
>>123893132
>MEoDP which he can use to kill the treasures if needed.
I'm pretty sure that if Shiki's blade comes into contact with stuff from GoB that detonates on contact it will not go really well. There is also the chance that Gil would recognize MEoDP
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>>123893042
>. Something that Shiki never did.
Dead Apostles move faster than bullets.
Nero went full power and became faster than Arcueid. He is a Dead Apostle Ancestor.

Unless you are telling me that Arcueid is slower than a bullet, yeah, Shiki broke the sound barrier. It just didn't need to say it.

Also
>Dark Berserker was slower than the sound barrier and still almost won
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>>123893296
I don't have any proof. Shiki moves fast enough that it's like he's teleporting, that's enough for me. He also shit all over Nvsqr who was moving faster than sound.
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>>123893296
There is nothing from GoB that explodes on contact. That shit doesn't cause Broken Phantasms.
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>>123893134

I thought he used them for mana. His Master doesn't necessarily need to provide it for him. All they are used for is keeping the Servants bound to the material world. Hence why normal people like Kuzuki and Ryuunosuke were just fine for the Caster class, which can easily get its mana from other sources.
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>powerlevel shitstorm beginning
Welp, it was fun while it lasted.
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>>123893368
The impact is sufficient to cause explosive releases of kinetic energy, even if the missile itself doesn't break. Gil throws those things out at supersonic speeds.
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>>123893465
That's not an explosion. That's like Nero punching a wall. It causes a release of kinetic energy once contact is made. Shiki's knife basically nullifies that shit after cutting it like with Nero's punches.
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>>123892891
Well half-vampire Shiki most likely can. He menage to land few hits on freaking berserk Arc
>Disappear, you vampire
>Don't fool around, I won't die with such a thing!
>Her hands grab my head. But faster than Arcueid's hands trying to squeeze my head, I slice my knife down to her thigh.
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>>123892792
Because he is fun.
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>>123893296
I don't think Gil actually detonates anything from GoB on contact. Archer does that; Gil doesn't.
Or maybe I don't understand something.
There is a possibility he would recognise MEoDP, but it's still no guarantee he would treat him seriously, and even if he does, Shiki could try speed-blitzing him anyway.
Though him recognising MEoDP is probably the biggest problem of Shiki. If he actually fights half-seriously, then Shiki loses.
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>>123893312
>>123893361
Nasu doesn't think so, since he says that Shiki can only fight people on Melty Blood because of game mechanics.

>>123893368
He simply can send out invisible swords or swords that freeze on contact. Also do you really think that from all that shit Gil has in his vault he doesn't have stuff that explodes? Really?
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>>123893567
>If he actually fights half-seriously, then Shiki loses.
That would mean that Gilgamesh actually considers Shiki a worthy opponent first. And you know Gil.
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>>123893535
I think the impact of touching a flying weapon with another weapon would be sufficient to disarm shiki.

He would have to hit it perfectly, and he would need to kill a shitton of them very quickly, without being even a hair off the mark, which would strain him.

Also, I'd wager that EA has no concept of death.
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>>123893567
>Still, the destructive power was enormous. The road surface was blown up like it was hit with an explosive blast, and the scene was shrouded by the dust of the asphalt pulverized into particles.
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>>123893643
No. Nasu says that the Shiki on Melty Blood is Shiki always on trump card form. The normal Shiki is brainwashed into thinking he's normal. Once he's trump card mental state, even DAAs can't touch him. Arcueid, 4x a Servant on 30%, dies and gets cut into 17 slabs of meat in a moment and before he even finishes his step.

>He simply can send out invisible swords or swords that freeze on contact. Also do you really think that from all that shit Gil has in his vault he doesn't have stuff that explodes? Really?
Yes. Gilgamesh will just use anything and everything from his GoB to kill a guy who uses a fruit knife and has no real aura emanating from him.

Also,
>invisible swords
Do you even know what Shiki's original eyes does? Of course you don't.
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>>123893646
Well, yeah but these ARE MEoDP.
It really depends on whether Gil consider one-hit kill eyes a serious challenge or not. If anything, they're really rare, so he might actually go half-serious in this case, just because of how much of a treasure they are.
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>>123893790
Shiki would be able to effortlessly cut through his NP's. He was slicing through Phantasmal Beasts without effort.
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>>123893823
Not him, but didn't Shiki specifically have an aura of gravechill or something?
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>>123883956
Hyaku Shiki wins
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>>123893823
>Yes. Gilgamesh will just use anything and everything from his GoB to kill a guy who uses a fruit knife and has no real aura emanating from him.

That's really just random shit that has in the vault, they aren't even named

>Do you even know what Shiki's original eyes does? Of course you don't.

You know that Gil easily sees through magecraft, right? He should be able to recognize MEoDP.
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>>123893910
Phantasmal beasts don't have insane amounts of kinetic energy + an unknown special effect.
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>>123893790
>I think the impact of touching a flying weapon with another weapon would be sufficient to disarm shiki.
Again, that's the same shit with Nero's punches. Shiki's knife goes through the line, therefore nullifying ALL kinetic force. He is literally going through the conceptual weakness of his target, which is like him cutting through the air. No kinetic energy is going to transfer to him.

It's like somebody throwing two slabs of steak at you and you cut right in between the two slabs of steak. No energy is transferred to you.
>He would have to hit it perfectly, and he would need to kill a shitton of them very quickly, without being even a hair off the mark, which would strain him.
Nasu has already said this is no problem for Shiki. It doesn't matter how many shit you throw at him. Shiki kills 50 of Nero's beasts in a single moment.
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>>123893989
It doesn't matter, his eyes will instantly kill them.
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>>123893989
read>>123893990
Nero had a substantial amount of kinetic energy. It's a superpowered DAA punch from an object that needs to be destroyed by something with the power of a continent buster.
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>>123893983
Not him; I think by "original eyes" he meant that Shiki originally had Pure Eyes, and MEoDP are really just a permutation of these. That is, the eyes that can see invisible things.
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>>123894034
Case in comparison.
Satsuki is not a DAA. She is merely a DA.
Her single punch can cause small craters in concrete. There is no focusing of 500 beasts or anything. That's just simple DA power.

Nero is a DAA.
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>>123893643
>Nasu doesn't think so, since he says that Shiki can only fight people on Melty Blood because of game mechanics.
He didn't say anything like that. I assume you talking about that thing from fuyuki wiki but source for this was his comment from MB manga vol 1. He's not talking about MB (game) story
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>>123893983
>You know that Gil easily sees through magecraft, right? He should be able to recognize MEoDP.
MEoDP is not magecraft. Shiki's eyes are not magecraft either. They are psychic powers. And there is a distinction with these to magecraft. Shiki's jougan (his eyes before he obtained MEoDP) can see shit that cannot be seen.
It's why he's a complete counter against Akiha.
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>>123894139
>Sacchin Punch can break concrete
>Sacchin Punch can throw Shiki several distance away
>Sacchin Punch is literally an overpowered sledgehammer
>Shiki doesn't get obliterated by Sacchin Punches
I don't even...
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>>123893990
>Nasu has already said this is no problem for Shiki. It doesn't matter how many shit you throw at him. Shiki kills 50 of Nero's beasts in a single moment.

That were literally thrown in front of him. How can he deal with an attack that comes from every direction?

>>123894220
Not exactly what I meant, I know that MEoDP is not magecraft. But Gil could analyze Shirou's magecraft pretty easily, it wouldn't surprise me if he manages to detect an abnormal power from Shiki
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>>123894383
>That were literally thrown in front of him. How can he deal with an attack that comes from every direction?
No. Wrong. Shiki's 50 beasts moment happened when they were all literally on top of Shiki coming from every direction, gnawing on him, biting, ripping off his flesh. He literally kills them in a moment. All 50. That were literally on top of him.

That's far faster than the GoB projectiles you are talking about because they are already on Shiki's body.

ALSO, Nasu has already said that GoB can ONLY be fired from one direction. And when Gilgamesh moves, he cannot attack with GoB. This is in the comparison of F/P Gilgamesh with FSN Gilgamesh in the Prototype Material.

>>123894383
Shiki's abnormality shows no real threat. Even Arcueid, a being that can access information from the planet willy nilly even though she's only been really awake for a grand-total of 1 year, could not detect it until it hit her the first time.
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>>123894383
But he couldn't "see" that Shirou possess RM
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>>123894220
Not him.
Arcueid somehow knew about these. I wonder where from, since it implies these eyes appeared somewhere before.
Really, this all probably depends on whether or not the Eyes actually existed in Gil's time. On one hand, psychic powers are specifically something that is of human origin, and Gilgamesh has a kind of a theme about having and knowing about everything that has a human origin. On the other hand. I have a hard time believeing MEoDP had a prototype, and if they just plain didn't exist when he lived, there's no way he would know about them. The most he would get out of it is that Shiki is really weird, probably. That is assuming MEoDP didn't first appear in Uruk, which is certainly possible.
Well, that is if we follow internal logic of the Nasuverse.
If we asked Nasu, I bet he would answer that Gilgamesh would be able to recognise MEoDP, because that's kind of the character he's writing. The one who basically knows everything about everything, even if he has no reason to.
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>>123894615
Read second part >>123894571
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>>123894615
The first MEoDP we know from Nasuverse was from an Irish legend. Ireland is a far ways away from Uruk.
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>>123894571
>ALSO, Nasu has already said that GoB can ONLY be fired from one direction. And when Gilgamesh moves, he cannot attack with GoB. This is in the comparison of F/P Gilgamesh with FSN Gilgamesh in the Prototype Material.
Pic related.
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>>123894615
>Arcueid somehow knew about these. I wonder where from, since it implies these eyes appeared somewhere before.
Balor of the Evil Eye was first owner of MEoDP. Touko mention that in KnK
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>>123893983
>He should be able to recognize MEoDP

MEoDP were only owned by Balor, the god of darkness from celtic mythology. Gil won't know shit about them.
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>>123894769
Whatever that scene described, Nasu already explained as different from what is actually happening. You might think it's coming from everywhere, but Nasu, NASU, has said that FSN Gil's GoB has distinct limits.
It can only fire 10 weapons at a time (you can obviously fire another 10 after that).
It cannot fire when Gilgamesh is moving himself (but it works if he's simply sitting down on Vimana).
It can only fire in one direction, and it has to be aimed to fire in another direction.
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>>123892853
Shiki seems like the standard pervert Harem MC here.
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>>123893278
She's 19.
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>>123894958
I'm disgusted that he didn't play with those funbags more in the anime.
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>>123883956
Shirou
Shirou
Meh on both
Shirou
Shiki
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>>123883956
Shiki
Shiki
Shiki
Shiki
Shiki
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>>123895026
Shiki is so lucky to have Arc.
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>>123894899
I literally can't find what you are talking about, and if I bet that if I play the last episode of UBW there will be more than 10 weapons ready to fire.
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>>123895164
I know right?
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>>123895164
>not the edit
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>>123894899
>It can only fire 10 weapons at a time
Wait, what. Doesn't he fire more than that against Lancelot?

Could you translate the whole section, by any chance, for close appraisal?
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>>123883984

B T F O
T
F
O
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>>123895193
>I literally can't find what you are talking about,
Prototype Material
Just Nasu explaining how different the original Gilgamesh was to the Gilgamesh now. The Gilgamesh from before was more overpowered than the goldie we have now. FP Gil can fire as many NPs as he wants, can do it while moving, and from any direction.

Weapons being ready to fire doesn't mean that they're all firing at the same time. They go in increments of 10.
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>>123895244
>Weapons being ready to fire doesn't mean that they're all firing at the same time. They go in increments of 10.
And even if it looks like it's being fired at the same time, they're not. It's like with guns.

You can rapid-fire a gun. It's still 1 bullet at a time that comes out of the gun. Unless it's one of those specialized multiple barrel shits.
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Shirou
Shirou
Shirou
Shirou
Shiki
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>>123895359
Now that's more like it
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>>123895322
Pretty sure PM is translated and nothing like that is in there.
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>>123895489
Somebody posted the raw page and I read it in Japanese. It even had the two Gilgameshes on the page.
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>>123895560
Definitely wasn't prototype material. Doesn't seem to be animation material or tribute phantasm either. I don't think there have been any other books other than those.
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>>123895289
>61 posters
>51 votes on Shiki
>Shirou has only 10 legit votes
>Shirou BTFO
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>>123895656
You can probably find it in the archives. I remember there being a huge shitstorm about it when it got released on /a/ a couple of years back.
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>>123895220
Why is it the last Tsukihime doujin from this author hasn't been scanned yet?
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>>123895755
That's a lot of Shiki votes. I think it's mainly because the UBW anime is shit
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>>123895777
The last two doujinshi for Tsukihime you mean.
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>>123895765
I'm not going to trust you on that. Looking at the Japanese wiki, they describe Bab-ilu as basically the same but slightly weaker. Not the most trust worthy source, but still better than "a thing I saw that totally exists,"
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>>123895755
>sample size of 61
>statistics from a voluntary poll on /a/
>implying this means anything
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One thing is certain - Shiki can only DREAM of having Shirou's memetic powers.
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>>123896325
And that's a bad thing?
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>>123896325
What about Rape the maids and THIS CHAIR?
Also A cat is fine too, though this one is kinda similar to Rape the maids.
Oh, also Bananaya and the Tohno Gland.
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>>123883956
Why would they fight ?
They seems chill together on CP.
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>>123894899
What's the source on that?
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>>123896558
I didn't watch CP yet, but I remember Nasu saying they wouldn't probably like each other much if they actually met.
They are pretty much polar opposites, really. In every single way - from powers and their sources down to their very personalities.
Doesn't necessarily mean they would hate each other but would probably be Archer vs Shirou #2 in dynamic, only without intention to murder being quite as strong.
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>>123896689
This is what I've found, but I bet that in the next UBW episode we will see. The rest of the translation should be on the Beast's Lair, but I'm too lazy to check it out

>◆宝具
>彼の宝具は二つ

>・王律鍵『バヴ=イル』

>王の証である入れ墨

>宝物庫の鍵を開けそこからマシンガンのように刀剣を射出する。
>ぶっちゃけ王の財宝そのもの。

>アニメ戦闘シーンではアーチャーの周りを円を描く様に展開され、そこ
から射出されていた。
>しかし王の財宝とは違い移動しながらでも展開可能らしく、高層ビルを
駆け巡りながら射出してい た。


>Key of the King's Law, Bab-ilu (God's Gate?)
>-the real Noble Phantasm is a tattoo which proves (Gilgamesh's) Kingship.
>-it functions identically with Gate of Babylon, firing out weapons like a machine gun.
>-it opens in a circular pattern around Gilgamesh, firing weapons.
>-it is different from Gate of Babylon in that, it can be activated and employed while Gilgamesh is moving.

Source: Fate Prototype Material.
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>>123896449
>implying Rin did not violently masturbate to that thought
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>>123897049
That doesn't tell me anything. Bab-ilu's abilities don't have any bearing on F/SN Gil's abilities.
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>>123897165
>>-it is different from Gate of Babylon in that, it can be activated and employed while Gilgamesh is moving.

Like I said, the 10 weapons at the time should be on Beast's Lair
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>>123897219
I'm not gonna look that shit up without a URL.
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>>123894899
That reminds me of how much of an asspull Shirou's power is.
Especially the bit where he downloads information from the swords he projects.
Literally an asspull just so he wouldn't be a retard with two sharp objects.
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>>123897308
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/1502-Fate-Prototype/page23
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>>123897049
That's just from very early Prototype summaries. It's nothing official.

>>123897219
Having never heard anything like that mentioned before, I don't think you're remembering whatever you saw correctly.
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>>123897429
I'm not even the guy that said it in the beginning, I just decided to look that shit up.
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>>123897409
That doesn't say anything about gate of babylon's limits. Current information suggests that it has no limits in combat.
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>>123897620
>>123897490
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>>123897620
Current information has Gate being physically turned to fire in another direction.
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>>123883956
If Archer decided to (somehow) impregnate Shiki's entire harem, how would both Shiki & Shirou react to the DNA test results?
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>>123897737
>implying Shiki's harem would sleep with an emofaggot trying to kill himself because he can't stand his own face
Shirou is already Shiki's polar opposite, Archer is even more Shiki's polar opposite.
And Servants can't impreg or get preggers. It's how their blood isn't actually blood.
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>>123897737
Wouldn't that be Shirou's genes in the first place? Shiki bails, his harem is now Shirou's problem, Shiki's harem kills everyone in Shirou's harem that tries to get close to him while Shiki finally gets a break.
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>>123897384
>asspull
I don't think you know what that word means.
You could make a case for Avalon, but downloading information isn't one.
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>>123897737
If Snoop Dogg and Jay-Z decided to impregnate Arturia, Rin, and Sakura (let's add Bazett and Caren in too), will you faggots keep on being cucks?
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>>123897737
The only servants that can impregnate women are Avenger and HomuSieg. SHIROU and Gil are questionable if they can impregnate bitches.

Jeanne is the only female servant that can get preggers.
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>>123897737
Have you even seen the size of Shiki's dick in comparison to Shirou's dick? There ain't no way they'd leave Shiki's armdick for a small needlecock.
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>>123897933
>implying it won't be Kanye
>implying he won't be making a song about fucking white women with the album cover him and Saber hugging each other
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>>123897700
He has placed weapons in odd firing positions in Fate/Zero and CCC. He also has been stated to ready more than 10 weapons at a time. There is no information to suggest it has limits.
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