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What is she whispering into his ear?
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>>123777960
Apparently, it's so lewd that it's going to make Kanbaru look like a good girl. And so outrageous that Araragi doesn't know if some of it is even possible.
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>>123777960
He has a big ear.
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ur a faget
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>>123777960
mayonegg
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>>123777960
>letswalkhomegently
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Wait til you see my dick
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>>123777960
She tell him how Kaiki fuck her.
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>>123778100
Well, he's found the woman for him then.
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>>123778337
I hated and loved this one at the same time.
What is it called again?
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>>123777960
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>>123777960
She explains just how to fuck yourself with office supplies while your father is in the same room.
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>>123777960
She is cucking herself again
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Why was episode 12 of bakemonogatari so good?
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>>123779044
So you're saying that she's wants to Valhalla Combi him?
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She's telling him about her anal tendencies.
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She's telling him "I like to put mayonnaise on my eggs. Mayonegg."
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>>123777960
Sailor stuff.
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>>123777960
I'll let your dick reach so far up my asshole you'll forget you even had one to begin with
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Mayonegg
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>>123779436
This is a winner.

>>123779242
Because stars. Bros love stars.
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>>123779485
>>123779398
>>123778202
She's trying to give him a boner, not make him vomit everywhere.
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And I spread the mayo on the egg
Mayonegg
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「戦場ヶ原、蕩れ」
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>>123777960
"I like to take two thick markers and insert them in my pussy. I pull one up and around my clit while thrusting the other one in and out of my vagina. Sometimes I put both markers in (caps outward) and secure a bobby pin on my clit and pull on the bobby pin. The sensation is awesome. You can also put bobby pins on your breasts and pull, too!"
this is from an actual Office Supply Masturbation site.
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>>123777960
IIRC, it was stuff from BL novels.
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Benis:DDDD
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>>123779543
>Not getting hard over the food version of incest.

Araragi loves incest in all it's forms. Shit, even his sisters have eggs on their person.
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>>123777960
I am Kira.
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>>123779884
in the translation I read, it didn't actually say specifically during the scene. Do they mention it later?
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>>123777960

ayy lmao
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>>123777960
Whatever she said, they probably tried it afterwards.
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>>123777960
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"That wasn't mud."
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>>123780231
Not for many months, at least.
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Friendly reminder that she is so turned on at this point that she forgets to dry her hair.
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>>123780423
unless it involved an outdoor hand job.
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>>123780253
The only thing that is pure is my boner.
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>>123777960
Hail Hydra.
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Long Hair >= Koi/Tsuki hairstyle >>>Neko white hairstyle >>>>shit >> Nise epilogue hairstyle
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>>123780722
you forgot to put Owari on top.
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>>123780777
Jackpot.
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>>123780992
We won't get to see this for another 2 years at least.
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>>123778535
can't you read?
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>>123777960
Kizu never ;_;
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>>123780722
Why don't you love me anon?

>>123781127
Um. Yes? It's not there and it's not listed under the misspelled authors name it has at the bottom. I suppose it's possible I'm still missing it.
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Did Araragi blow his load in the car?
It must have been uncomfortable for him for the rest of the date.
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>>123780560
100 percent pure diamond?
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>>123779044
>tfw I can't even do that finger pose because of all the years clammed to a mouse
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>>123781388
the fuck are you talking about, if you have the mangaka's name, how can you be incapable of finding it? Look a little harder.
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>>123781579
well anon, I have been trying to find it, but it's obviously not listed on exhentai. At least it's not under that name. You're welcome to try to search for it yourself before you tell me, but I think it would be easier to just let us know.
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>>123781699
I did find this one though.
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>>123781388
It's on the bloody okojo tag.
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>>123781745
That's a good one but I thought she was peeing.
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>>123781699
wow, you're lazy. It's on ex, look harder.
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>>123777960
sweet nothings
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>>123778202
>>123779485
>>123779546
Came here for this, was not disappointed.
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Why is this the best monogatari episode ever created?
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>>123782098
it's somewhere in my top 10 favourite eps, so no, not the best.
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Jet fuel can't meld Steel beams
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>>123782098
That's just what crabfags think.
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>>123782539
>implying

Monkeyfag here and I think it's probably the best episode in the series or at least top 3 material.
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>>123778535
Fuck off.
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Incest isn't uncommon among Birds held in captivity.

bet you didn't even know that
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>>123781424
Well he probably faps like every day so it probably wasn't substantial.
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>>123783211
I'm sure incest is pretty rampant throughout the animal kingdom as a whole.
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>>123780560
what a rotten slut.
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>>123781424

>It must have been uncomfortable for him for the rest of the date

More uncomfortable than being driven by your GF's father while she gropes and talks dirty to you ?
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>>123781914
>>123781832
>>123781765
cool thanks all.
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>>123784014
No
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>>123783211
ok, whats it with fire sisters and eggs

is there a meaning behind it or just a gimmick?
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>>123777960
Probably something about her noodle eating technique.

Would eat noodles with the Cold Sisters any day.
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>>123782098
Everything is perfect.
don't ever read that part on the LN, tho, it ruins all the magic of Bake 12
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>>123779436
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>>123785013
Birds and the bees.
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>>123785355

>Birds and the bees.

I can't believe I never noticed that
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>>123778465
Holy shit

Underratted post
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>>123780450
she's just a fucking skeleton
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>>123785625
When will fatfags leave?
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>>123785671
I like my women to look like women, not like starving african businessmen
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>>123784587
Well it would last a lot longer so I would say yes.
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just noticed, looks like Bird didn't want her shirt back after Karen almost fucked her brother wearing it
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>>123785625
I know, right? She was supposed to be supper thin in the beginning. Apparently she gains some weight in the side story Hitagi Buffet, on account of cake. Runners though. Damn. I wonder if SHAFT changed her body any after that.

It changed nothing.
"It does change something," Senjougahara said.
Her eyes red and swollen.
"It was not a complete waste. If nothing else, I've found a good friend."
"Who?"
"You."

Then they promise to eat crab together. She's a fucking qt 3.14 when she wants to be.
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>>123785781
crab is ok, no one said she's bad.

Problem is her competition
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>>123778465
what the fuck
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>>123785832
Thank you for your input Monkey, but it's been a best girl thread. I know you love Hitagi and want to tell us how she's the Best Girl.
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>>123785832
Fuck off. Go find the snakefags and make your own waifu wars thread.
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>>123785742
>I like my women to look fat, not attractive
Yeah I know you do fatfag.
I'd love to see the african businessman with a body like that.
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>>123785886
>>123785471
Ssshhhh, she can hear you.
Yeah, I saw that watching Bake through the second time. Somebody fucked up.
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>>123785781
>Then they promise to eat crab together.
Did this ever happen?
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>>123785893
Don't lie to yourself and give in to your homosexuality, anon.
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>>123785471
How do I rate a post?
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>>123785998
I don't think they even talk about the date in the LN. Then again I haven't read Koyomimonogatari, and it might be in there.

>>123785985
This is the most disgusting picture I've ever seen. Remember that you can't unsee something. But it's just for you.

>>123786084
you reply to it?
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>>123786178
Replies are not upvotes, fuck off.
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>>123785355
Holy shit
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>>123785671
Do you mean Americans?
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>>123785758
That's not her shirt, that's bee's undershirt.
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>>123786083
I hope Hitagi does. I mean, they did start the Reborn Valhalla Combi. And Hitagi obviously has some shades of homo in her.

>>123786228
it could be a positive, negative, or neutral vote depending on what you say. I'm pretty much saying you can't.
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>>123785893
How can crab possibly be best girl if she turned down the perfection that is monkey?
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>>123786228
That is true, but if a good post has no replies, it is considered 'underrated' as it has received little attention. Please be less of a faggot.
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>>123786385
I actually wonder about this. She was pretty sick at the time. Both physically with her weight and mentally. I wonder what she would have said had she been well?
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>>123786418
Replies are not denominations of attention either, you should be reading every post regardless of replies. And acting as if replies mean anything encourages posting just to get replies, and thus shitposting.
Please stop turning this place into reddit.
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>>123786430
and she did want to start the Valhalla Combi again when she became well.

I just feel sad for Monkey when Crab and Vamp go off to college. Must be lonely.

>>123786259
Yeah, I only realized this recently myself.
I also realized (though this is a bit of a stretch) that since Nadeko wishes on several occasions that she were in Shinobu's position, that would make her Bat-Shit-Crazy.
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>>123786385
She's not a lesbo. She's a tease though and monkey probably took it the wrong way
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>>123786430
Damn it, and Araragi could have gotten with post-shiro cat.
Who do I blame for this travesty?
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>>123786591
Her loss.
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>>123786591
True... a true pervert like Hitagi would probably make her friends think she was into them.

>>123786637
I just want Nisio to write Collegemonogatari. There would be threesomes and drinking and donuts. I can see it now.
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>>123783167
I like your picture better.

>>123786591
I think she would probably try it. She's just as perverted about Hanekawa as Araragi is.
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>>123786335
are you sure?

looks just like the shirt she snatched from Bird
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>>123786920
just noticed that this one has a collar, what an odd shirt it is
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>>123786920
Look at the neck anon, she was wearing that undershirt when Araragi was wiping her down during when she was sick.
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>>123787011
my bad

other question, do you think those clothes still fit Tsukihi, or are they worn out by karen.

alternatively, does she trigger her PTSD if she put them on
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>>123787222
That's not cat.
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>>123783167
>senjougahara will never time travel back to when koyomi was a shota
why live?
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>>123787222

Who hasn't Araragi masturbated to ?
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>huggable hoodie Senjougahara never
>more bantering with long haired kuudere goddess never
Why even live
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>>123787351
Oshino Meme maybe?
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>>123787222
Thank you. We needed this one.

>>123787330
She'll probably have his son though, who would probably look just like him.

>>123787351
The question is, who hasn't masturbated to Araragi?

>>123787417
Senjougahara Desk Pad coming soon though.
And she'll have long hair again in Owari
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>>123787579

>The question is, who hasn't masturbated to Araragi?

I was going to say Snail but she complained he stopped molesting her
One of his sisters ?

Monkey if Oshino X Aragi doesn't count
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>>123787731
>Not Monkey if no Oshino x Araragi
You know she's masturbated furiously to Araragi x Senjougahara in a lusty rage.

Tsukihi might actually be pure. She does always complain about the fondling.

>>123787417
Also Senjougahara mouse pad in which Hitagi sacrifices her breasts to ensure you don't get carpal tunnel.
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>>123787417
Like you have problems
They teased us with sweaterbaru and then she was never shown again.
And tracksuitbaru was only for those 2 snake episodes.

It's like they hate cuddly girls.
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>>123787920
and Karen might just be too dumb. Fuck she's so cute.
~"My big brother suddenly wants to play with me half naked now that I'm in highschool! He's so cool. He must have grown up."
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>masturbated furiously to Araragi x Senjougahara
I don't think monkey is into NTR.
She might have masturbated to an imaginary threesome though.
Now who do we blame for that threesome being only imaginary?
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I miss the times only Bake existed, sequels not only ruined its reputation, but the series as a whole.
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>>123788030
That is too bad. Though I have to say I love how most people actually change clothes in this anime. Fucking Scooby Doo same outfits day in and day kills the mood.

This was the best Senjougahara outfit. She wanted Araragi to see it. And then she never wore it again.
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>>123788254
She probably masturbated so hard in it that night she ruined in.
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>>123788238
But the Original Work is a shit ton of books. That's like saying Lord of the Rings would have been better if they only published The Fellowship.

>>123788309
That's my theory as well. Underwear and leggings stained white from a long day with her Koyokoyo.

>>123788210
Well Hitagi is Harem Queen, so it really comes down to her. Then again, I think Highschool is a little too early to have a threesome in my opinion. That's more of a college thing. (come on Nisio, Collegemonogatari. please.)
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>>123788238
Let me just say that I respect you for staying a fan. You have my axe, sir.
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>>123788082
oh Karen
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>>123788531
This one on the other hand does it so much they even have a flashback.
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>>123788531
Why does she wear the red socks?
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>>123787920

It doesn't count if you don't self insert, but then she probably has in a threesome at least
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>>123788660
looks like its part of the uniform
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>>123788660
Tell me about Karen.

She's a big girl.
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>>123788447
>That's like saying Lord of the Rings would have been better if they only published The Fellowship.
Haha no, it's not.
It's all arc based with no overarching story.
It's more like saying I wished Mushishi never got sequels because it got worse which is also acceptable because it's episodic.

Your only argument could be because girls didn't get a perfect resolution which they got in the sequels, but realistically speaking that's not Araragi's issue in the slightest, he still helped them.

Or if you're still gonna mention books, I'll just say the sequel books shouldn't have been blatant ecchi harem.
Not saying Bake wasn't a harem, but it was definitely subtle. Or in other words, the girls weren't jumping on his dick, at most you'd get few sexual innuendos in their conversations and that's it

Bake was something beautiful, unique and great visuals, unique and great OST, unique and great atmosphere, well written and interesting characters and bantering. That shit was mind blowing back then(well I didn't watch it when it aired, but it was still the only Monogatari)
The sequels just mimicked those things
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>>123789183
The thing about bake was that it was completely unfinished. None of the arc were resolved and especially monkey and cat did not get the closure they needed.
It's not very apparent when you just watch bake but it becomes clear later on.
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>>123787222
This is actually canon. She implied so in the Mayoi Snail arc. At least in the LN she did.
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>>123785998
I'll bet plenty of Crab was eaten after this scene.
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>>123789183
Ok, the Lord of the Rings example might have been a bit of a stretch, you're right.

Personally I thought the way they expanded on the characters was exciting and realistic. It makes sense that the women he is around would fall for him, even though he may not notice. Especially true if he already has a girlfriend (don't see that in many harems) True it's not the newest angle. I do like, however, that they change up the main character quite a bit. Also, the fact that he loses a good deal of his harem in the end doesn't link up with the traditional harem anime.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the fuck out of Bake. It was a real breath of fresh air for me, and completely absorbed me. I really didn't feel like anything was lost in the sequels, or that it got repetitive.

I do know people, one of them being my father, who thought that Star Wars should have ended with the first movie. I thought all of them were brilliant (until 1, 2 and 3) but to each his own really!

What I find most exciting about the sequels is they really start to dig into the world, the world where Oddities and Men live together. I'm still working on figuring out the metaphor behind the Oddities (they're obviously Monogataris themselves, but exactly what that means I'm not sure.)

I guess I can't help myself. I'm really looking forward to future releases and reading more translations. Consider me hooked.
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>>123788030
Even as a crabfag, I'll admit sweaterbaru melted my heart like butter.
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>>123788238
I agree that Bake didn't need and hasn't benefited from these sequels, but I can't say it ruined Bake - it hasn't been literally altered in any way. Maybe it ruined discussion of the series as I preferred it. Reputation, though? How so?

>>123789285
>The thing about bake was that it was completely unfinished. None of the arc were resolved and especially monkey and cat did not get the closure they needed.
Only the backstory with Shinobu and Tsubasa was needed. If you think the arcs "needed" resolution - like, it was some kind of cliffhanger shit - could you elaborate on this? I strongly disagree.

>>123790083
>Star Wars should have ended with the first movie.
It certainly could have.
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Monkeyfags assemble

Waifu wars is now

Finest maiden pic related

Snake Goes Batshit best episode
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>>123790208
Why must we rely on fan art?
There's like one good picture.
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>>123789330
That's our Crab.

>>123790079
What on earth makes you think that anon? It looked like they were about to go out on a nice walk.
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>>123790311
Oh, its on son.
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>>123790298
Well the character arc were not resolved. I guess you could have just left them there but there was certainly no harm in exploring them further.
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>>123784015
>Touching her own boyfriend
>slut
That makes sense anon.
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>>123790352
Oh shit. I knew it was going to happen eventually. You kids have fun.

Just remember who the real winner is here.
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>>123790352
Don't rise to the snakefag bait monkeyfag.
You don't think monkey would want you to ruin her senpai's thread do you?
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>>123787417
>>123788030
Why can't 3D girls realize that hoodies and sweaters are literally the best? Do they really believe they look fat or unattractive in them?
why is 3D so dumb
Why can't 3D be 2D
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>>123790417
>real winner

Arararagi obviously

also Kaiki is the purest
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>>123790440
Don't bring 3D into this anon.
Besides it's only hot if you know they are hot underneath.
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>>123790344
Why does Crab like to put her hand is his mouth so much? I recall she also did it in Nise so that's 3 times she's done it at least on screen.
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>>123790440
I don't know anon. I don't know. They should consider asking men what is attractive. After all, a man should know.

That "I <3 Hitagi" Bento. And he's decided he's going to live with her. I'm jelly.
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>>123790550
I forget how fucking lewd she is. Every time. It's great.
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>>123790378
I guess it depends on what you mean by resolved. The characters weren't completely free of problems, but immediate problems were certainly fixed. Mostly, though, Koyomi went through an arc that was reasonably satisfying.
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>>123790584
finger sucking is a fetish for some people, though usually it's the girl doing it to the guy. Then again, it's Crab we're talking about.
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>>123790690
Mentally Unstable Nadeko > Lewd Nadeko

The whole school scene when she finally snaps made me absolutely adore her.

>tfw Edgefag
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>>123790864
It's okay to like her character as long as you realize she has a shit personality anon.
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>>123790344
Hitagi Chocolate doujin when
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>>123790864
I love seeing her covered in blood. It's just so sexy.
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>>123790917
melting chocolate on lewd places and having Koyokoyo lick it off. Sign me up please.
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>>123790950
I want edgy faggots to leave.
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Why is alternative Snail such a sperm whale of the semen oceans and why no-one ever mentions her?
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>>123791037
Not edgy, I just have a fetish.
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>>123778465

Is this real?
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>>123791169
A fetish for edgy bullshit.
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>>123791140

Because everyone has terrible taste but us, anon.
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>>123785625
Oh fatfags
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>>123791219
yes. this is real.

>>123791169
what the fuck is an edgefag anyway? motherfuckers don't know shit. I'm a went-over-the-edge-and-miraculously-came-back-fag. you don't want whats on the other side, trust me.
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>>123791293
I like what I like. My dick also likes what it likes.
If you have such a problem with "edgy bullshit" why didn't you drop the series when Kanbaru disemboweled Ararararararagi?
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>>123777960
She's asking him to walk her home gently.
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>>123791415
You don't have to be a fatfag to see crab is bony as fuck.
She's getting better, needs to squat though if she wants to catch up to monkey in the ass department.
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>>123791140
look at how she's sitting. she's begging for it.
you know she can't stop thinking about swallowing Araragi's "Tea".
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>>123790584

It's intended to be a callback to the first time they met, how she shoved a stapler in there.
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>>123791415
fatfags are fine until they start posting pictures. then I hate fatfags.
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>>123790298
>Reputation, though? How so?

While it would still be called pretentious because people have a hard time keeping up with a pretty straightforward supernatural mysteries just because it has a lot of talking and unique visuals(seriously, not only it's straighforward, they explain literally everything every time), no one would ever call it generic ecchi harem, otaku pandering show if it wasn't for the sequels, Nise especially, which happens every time Monogatari gets mentioned.
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>>123785625
People like you are cancer.
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>>123791504
I wonder what else she shoves in his mouth.
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>>123791447
Well not him but I didn't get a boner when she used him as bola.
I did get a half-chub though.
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>>123791487
She's fine as she is.
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>>123788238

I know what you mean and I agree. The series really plummeted into mediocrity, with S2 being okay enough to make me hopeful.

Honestly, I just want it to end before it gets much worse.
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>>123791584
>>123791447
I mean, I won't tell you that you have a shit fetish, because it's just your fetish and that's cool. I was never able to understand this one. I mean, I can sort of understand feet, and other stuff, but I don't see how on earth blood and guts should be a sign that you should get ready to have sex... maybe you evolved from cavemen who who would just beat the fuck out of other cavemen and have sex with their women. Now that I think about it, raping and pillaging have always gone together, so I guess that makes sense.
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>>123791487
I'm not even a crabfag and I think she's the best looking girl.
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>>123791487
>Crab doing squats
I like the mental image you gave me.
Thank you
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>>123791623
Nah, I think it's really holding up.
I'm just so glad there's more of the anime (for men) that's not blatant violence with no real plot or issues at the center.
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>>123791784
Yeah, they put a little weight on her. Dat booty.
She is the best looker, I won't lie. Hanekawa is right on her fine ass though.
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Nothing is worse than Bake-onlyfags.
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>>123785625
I hate you, but at the same time I am jealous.
I wish I could like fat women. If a woman isn't very skinny, I just find it disgusting. Anime ruined me

have Yahari illustrator's Crab
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>>123791623
You. Fuck your opinion.

Even at its lowest it was still miles better than anything I've watched in a very long time. Feel free to disagree, but Kaiki's story was the strongest point of the series IMO.
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>>123791747
It's just something about seeing a woman covered in blood, especially a mentally unstable one, that screams "sex."
Honestly I don't get how there's such a strong response to mentioning it, you'd think some people have never seen a thread about any yandere before.
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>>123791447
I have no problem with violence. However, obsessing over violence and talking about how it gives you a boner is acting like an edgy teenager.
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>>123789067
>Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would undress his sister, before molesting her.
>At least you can talk. Who are you?
>It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
[Araragi removes the Yukata]
>No one cared who I was until I danced to the OP
>If I groped that breast, would you die?
>It would be extremely painful.
>You're a cute girl.
>For you.
>Was getting molested part of your plan?
>Of course... Karen refused our offer in favor of yours, we had to find out what she did you.
>Nothing! I did nothing!
>Well, congratulations! You got yourself groped! Now what's the next step in your master plan?
>Crashing this toe... with no survivors!
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>>123791982

Yeah I guess I was a bit harsh. I forgot how fun it was with Kaiki as the MC for a while.
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>>123792058
ah fucked that part up

wanted to replace "extremely painful" with "extremely arousing"
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>>123791747
It's not really a fetish, I can't fap to gore and blood.
I do get a visceral reaction though.
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>>123788238
Bake feels really different, After it I always felt like any semblance of plot fell into the background compared to fanservice and just fucking around. Nothing wrong with that, gatari banter is great, just my preference.

Also, I can't look at the Araragi/Gahara relationship the same way anymore. It feels cheap.
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>>123791623
>with S2 being okay enough to make me hopeful.
The only good thing about S2 was the last arc which I absolutely loved.
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>>123792035
Oh, I have, but yandere is garbage and people who unironically like it are retards.
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>>123791982
>>123791979
Thank you two. There are two less things for me to say now.

>>123792035
Ok I COMPLETELY understand the mentally unstable part. Crazy bitches are my fetish essentially. Even if I'm not looking for a crazy bitch, I always find a crazy bitch and diamonds in my pants. Because of this, I should probably never get married. Probably be murdered in my sleep.
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>>123791939
But she's not this hot piece of ass.
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>>123791784
>slim with some curves

Best body
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>>123792058
It's time to stop posting.
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>>123791623
I don't think it's anywhere near mediocre. I don't see how it exploring sexuality is plummeting either.
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>>123791941
Only because we're still here. Still watching. Still finding reasons to complain.

>>123791982
>Even at its lowest it was still miles better than anything I've watched in a very long time.
Kabuki is my least favourite novel adaptation in the series and I only enjoyed it enough to not actively regret watching it. You know, on par with your average seasonal nonsense.

>>123792112
>After it I always felt like any semblance of plot fell into the background compared to fanservice and just fucking around.
Maybe for Nise, but I think the subsequent stories were back to a better balance of the drama / fucking around.

>Also, I can't look at the Araragi/Gahara relationship the same way anymore. It feels cheap.
I don't think we're supposed to. There isn't really a romance subplot anymore after Bake.

>>123792117
Koi was great. Best thing after Bake by me.
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>>123792058
I like it.
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>>123792144
I think the blood builds in the crazy. It's tangible evidence of how far she'll go, how dangerous she is. A perfect example of skirting the line and risking everything by being with her.
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>>123792182
the firebird rises

why is tsukihi so much hotter than koyomi. Kai genes are 2 superior
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>>123792182
I enjoyed it very much. Thank you anon.

>>123792151
Kankan has a better booty, it is true.

>>123792117
>Not liking Cat Arc
What are you? What in Gods name are you??

>>123792258
I read this as if a ghost was speaking. I didn't even mean to.
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>>123792224
>I don't think we're supposed to. There isn't really a romance subplot anymore after Bake.

This makes me sad since I really liked their relationship but I should have known better.

>Maybe for Nise, but I think the subsequent stories were back to a better balance of the drama / fucking around.

The 2nd season had great moments, especially the last arc with Kaiki. That I agree with.
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>>123792224
I don't get all the hate for nise at all. The plot moved forward, there were new characters introduced that were awesome and character development on the existing ones was great.
It's like people saw the over the top lewd scenes and just assumed there was nothing behind, or around them.
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>>123791941
I completely disagree with him and I think SS was the best, but I can clearly see where he's coming from considering how much different Bakemonogatari is.
Nothing worse than buttmad shitposting with no basis.
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>>123792281
>builds on the crazy
I shouldn't try to type on mobile.
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>>123792199

I guess I'm just miffed about how slow Nise was. I also didn't appreciate the loli fanservice.

Also Hanamono and Tsukimono sucked.
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>>123792354
>there were new characters introduced that were awesome
Awesome if you want fanservice, not awesome as actual characters. Sisters are nothing more than pandering
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>>123792475
Yeah I did not like bat's bath scene either but I didn't let it spoil the whole season for me.
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>>123792304
>Kankan has a better booty, it is true.

True, but I still like Gahara's body better.
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>>123792524
lol. Tsukihi and Koyomi were the first two people to have a sane conversation in the entire series
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>>123778100
For u
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>>123792524
I was referring to Yozuru, doll and Kaiki actually.
The sisters have the weakest arcs and the least development so far but I don't see how that ruins anything since they weren't even that heavily featured in nise, hence why their arcs are so weak.
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Am I the only one who's super into Hanekawa's 'true' hair color?
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>>123792475
>reducing one of the most important scenes in the series to "loli fanservice"
How the fuck did you make it through the series?
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>>123792058
That was awful, anon-kun

>>123792625
Yes
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>>123792354
>I don't get all the hate for nise at all.
Let me be upfront in that I don't think Nise is explicitly bad. In fact, I think it's a decent comedy. However, that's not what I came to love about Bake. Now has come the time for me to repeat what I've said several times over the years: whereas Bake had a good balance between the supernatural drama and faffing about, Nise fell really hard on the side of the latter. It was shallower for it.

>there were new characters introduced that were awesome
I don't know if you include the sisters in this, but I will take this moment to mention that they are terrible characters. They are flat and should have remained little side characters that got Koyomi out of bed in the morning. Sure, they are sexual as fuck and I would wreck Karen as hard as a man could possible sex up a woman, but they aren't interesting, complex, engaging, or anything of the sort. That so much time is spent on them is to the series' detriment.

>>123792625
The striped hair is fantastic.
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>>123792475
Hanamongatari is like a flower – beautiful, elegant, and has the pedals that shine like no other.
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>>123792625
I don't like it. The spikes are segregated by color so it looks like they are clumped together, like chitin.
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>>123792625
It's definitely her best look. She might have some competition from short hair Black Hanekawa.
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>>123792712
Well see the thing about the sisters being shallow characters is that they are so because they get so little screentime.
Therefore I don't see how you can dislike nise for it since it took up so little of it's time.

What I want to say is for the screen time they got they got enough development.
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>>123792712

>those viewpoints

Holy shit are you me from the future?

Does this ride ever end?
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>>123792625
It's her best look by far
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>>123792625
she looks old and busted

probably from all the trucker dicks she had to fellate
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>>123792625
Mixed blond and black hair like that are known for being popular among aging white trash where I live.

>>123792751
>short hair Black Hanekawa
This guy knows it. I personally think cat was pretty boring and Black cat was a better character and a hotter cat.
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What I didn't like about SS was that the animation really fell off even for Shaft standards. Maybe because it was in production at the same time as Rebellion? Even the backgrounds were shit.
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>>123792712
Nise has as much drama as Bake, they just injected it into the faffing about, so occasionally really important information is dropped and you have to recognize it. They just didn't pick it out and add tense music to it.
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>>123792555
She looks so cute here. That's unusual, she usually looks hot/pretty but rarely cute.
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>>123792937
>Mixed blond and black hair like that are known for being popular among aging white trash where I live.

Oh wow that's awful. I can see why you don't dig it.
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>>123792809
They don't get Bake-levels of low screentime, son. They actually get a fair bit. The arcs revolve around them, even if they don't even show up for their respective finales. It stains the plot and makes it hard to get engaged when you don't care about these sluts' problems (even if I do want Karen to engage herself with my dick's problems). The fake theme of fake fakery also heavily relies on these two fakes.

>>123792837
>Does this ride ever end?
Lord almighty I hope so.

>>123793007
>Nise has as much drama as Bake
I don't know how you're measuring this shit, but I would do so by time spent. Are you saying that Nise had as much time spent on drama as Bake?
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>>123792712
>all of this

If you think they're well written characters you need to stop lying to yourself.
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>>123793155
Oh anon, their problems are just reflections of Araragi's problems. They don't really take up a lot of time at all either. They time they are on the screen I did not find to be wasteful either.
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Be honest

Are you into monogatari mainly for the fapping material or characters and story?

If it's both choose which you prioritize.
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>>123793155
That's also sort of hard to measure because of how Nise does it, but probably. I mean, one second Araragi can be groping Hachikuji and the next he's seriously asking her for life advice and she is delivering beautifully. Plus, when you know the context, Shinobu's bath scene is some of the best quality drama in the series.
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>>123793242
>Oh anon, their problems are just reflections of Araragi's problems.
And so was the case in Bake. However, except for Nadeko, I actually gave a shit about the characters in that series.

>They don't really take up a lot of time at all either.
Now we're just going in circles.
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>>123793400
The second, there's plenty of porn if I just want to fap.

Also if you're not fapping to their characters you're doing it wrong.
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>>123793430
I see what your real problem is, you were already preocuppied with waiting for other girls scenes to appreciate the sister arcs.

My guess is you are a monkeyfag
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>>123793430
Well you not giving a shit about the characters seem more of a personal problem than the series one.
Same with the second point, it seems subjective.
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Wasn't Nise written mostly as a joke? It wasn't supposed to be animated.
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>>123793490
>monkeyfag
>hating nise

nani?
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>>123793400
>fapping to monogatari
>at all

If I wanted to fap I'd fap to porn.

Fanservice in monogatari is more of a cherry on top of the cake.
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>>123793400

characters and story

there are better things to fap to
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>>123793570
That info is from Nisio's self-depreciating author's note in Nise. He has written similar ones for the rest of the books.
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>>123793016
She's always cute
>>123793570
Yep
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