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Best Vizard reporting in.
Why doesn't Kubo give him his own manga?
>>143020353
hes great but gets bullied like hisaGay. though hisagi deserves it.
random mayuri theory
Yama has been proven to have a soft heart that grew since the yhwach fight 1k years ago. Take his fight with wonderweiss. he said ' im glad you no longer resemble a child , i can kill you without regret now'. Massive foreshadowing. Also what he said to/of Ayon ' a creature that exists only to take life? pathetic'. I think he battered yhwach into a baby and then couldnt finish him off. mayuri has something to do with it. at the start of this arc look at the hate on mayuris face when he shittalks yama. stranger still he gets away with doing it. mayuris words were 'thats incorrect CC, this happened because 1000years ago you COULDNT kill that man.' he couldnt bring himself to slaughter a baby. also note who is saying this to yama - mayuri whose theme is BABIES AND BIRTH.
>>143020353
>implying
We won't even see his Bankai.
>>143020353
The Vizards were such wasted potential. Not only has Shinji barely fought but we've only seen him fight one person with his mask and it was just to ward off an already injured Grimmjow.
I don't think any of the Vizard even used their masks/Bankai in conjunction.
>>143021595
ward off? he battered him
>>143021541
evah ydaerla ew .lliw ew
>>143021738
That'd be disappointing. What's so special about it?
>>143022107
i was joking about how its prob so hax that we have already seen it
>>143021224
I wish we had more time to delve into the backstories of some characters.
>>143022954
we might. i still yearn for the OG gotei flashback when they raped Yhwach. now that ichigo has got shitwhipped we have a chance of that
Theories on his bankai?
Time reversal? Ability reversal? Full blown reality manipulation?
>>143023807
Full on King Crimson
>>143023807
shikai : reverse senses
bankai: reverse phenomena
>>143022954
me too. but kubo is a great world builder. we care more for the so-called side characters than the protagonist.
>>143023943
>reverse phenomena
>>143023943
>>143023927
He best be the one to help take down Gerard with that bankai
>>143023989
Bleach is hardly the only series, especially Shonen, where that's the case. Though he had an interesting and rather unique character arc in the Substitude and Fullbring arc and might get another one after the Wahrwelt invasion. Maybe one that's tied to fix the issues of the war and the afterlife.
>>143024126
You could have showed him a picture of Yhwach instead, since that is what the Almighty does in practice.
>>143024226
it would be awesome. its the Kubo thing to do. Zaraki, byakuya and muh hitsugay did nothing...now shinji who has 'le jobbed' this whole arc will take him down
>>143024469
You could say the same thing about half the cast, Shinji is nothing special.
>>143024469
If Shinji could do that, he would have done it against Aizen.
Oh yeah, the Vizards were a thing once weren't they? Seems like such a long time ago now.
>>143024531
Basically no one went full power against Aizen, that isnt much of an argument
I hope she survives this fight. Things aren't looking so good.
>>143024637
Except everyone else had a reason.
Shunsui's Bankai would have caught a lot of other people in it with no guarantee of killing Aizen
Yamamoto's Bankai would have destroyed the world with no guarantee of killing Aizen
Most of the Vizards were already worn out from fighting the Espada/Menos
Urahara's Bankai doesn't seem like it would have done shit against Aizen
And well everyone else tried their hardest and still got shit on.
How the fuck did Komamura become a captain?
>>143025292
>How the fuck did Komamura become a captain?
By earning it.
>>143023927
Almighty already does that. At this point we're just waiting for GER to pop out of someone's ass so that this shitty arc can end.
>>143025448
>shitty arc
>implying
>>143025440
On what merit? Bankai? He's won one fight in the series and that was against some fodder arrancar. Yamamoto bitched out Shunsui/Byakuya/Kenpachi for losing their haoris and the lieutenants for losing against much stronger opponents. But somehow dog-captain losing every fight he's been in, even with the odds in his favor, is acceptable for one of the 13 strongest shinigami in SS.
>>143020353
Shinji fags are depressing to look at. Up there with Sakura cucks.
>vizards hyped up
>they are all jobbers
Where the fuck is kido cpt?
>>143025685
>won one fight in the series
That's actually a feat considering most of the cast are total jobbers besides a few notable monsters.
>>143025816
The problem is everyone was expecting Ichigo-tier mask powers despite Shinji flat-out stating Ichigo was a true hybrid while his group was imperfect. Besides a few standouts (Hachigen) they were never meant to be stronger than average for the Gotei.
>>143025816
Either kubo forgot about him or just wrote him out because he looked silly
>>143025685
>(You)
what is this in the bottom panel? it looks giant whatever it is. this is the beginning of the first quincy invasion of the final arc, taking place when ichigo is fighting kirge
What do you think the dads will do? Will we see them soon?
>>143026043
It's a fucking boot you moron, POV shot of a Sternritter looking down at the Seireitei.
>>143026109
Not really sure, haven't seen much of anyone but Ichigo the past few chapters. Gerard cliffhanger really needs some resolution.
>>143026187
I wonder how he will be defeated. I'm thinking Ichibe might step in
>>143026043
It's Yhwach's foot. He's in the sky looking down on SS a few chapters after right before the invasion.
>>143026043
The Soul King's foot.
>>143026288
That would be an interesting turn, although I think Gerard could even be trouble for Ichibe. There's always a chance Aizen might step in...
>>143025685
He only lost against aizen (twice), his fight with kenpachi was cutoff and he wasn't serious against tousen since he didn't want to kill him.
Doggy needs one last hurrah, hope he goes on a suicide run and buys time for everybody.
>>143026109
Considering Ichigo's current situation, Isshin is probably going to save him with about 50% of dying in the process.
>>143025685
Once again, because Sajin Komamura is the most underrated character in the show and I'm morally obligated to defend him:
His power is completely unsuited to 1-on-1 fights with human-sized opponents, which is 99% of the fights he's been on, and on the flipside far more helpful when it comes to doing HIS ACTUAL FUCKING JOB, which is dealing with the occasional Menos Grande and once in a blue moon maybe a rogue Adjuchas.Against a fuckhuge army of lesser hollows, or a singular huge one, his Shikai/Bankai fucking rocks. Against a human-sized enemy fast enough to react to it, it's basically a giant walking target and/or plain useless (Bankai and Shikai respectively). That he's managed to hold his own and even beat people with that disadvantage is a testament to his skills.
Now let's take a look at his battle record, shall we?
-Throws Shikai against Kenpachi, Tõsen unleashes Bankai and gets BTFO, he unleashes Bankai and cockblocks Kenpachi before he can kill Tõsen.. Then he retreats because Yama released his Shikai.
-Jobs to Aizen the first time, much like everyone else.
-Rekts Chow Neng Pow with no particular effort
-Breaks even with Hollowified Tõsen until Hisagi finishes him off
-Gets owned by Aizen again, again much like everyone else
-Blows Bambietta off and then disappears.
So, some fine "jobbing" there is here.
So wait, is Shinji strong and just jobs for convenience's sake, or is he actually as weak as he appears?
He seems to be nowhere near Isshin/pre-Hogyoku Aizen/Kyoraku/Unohana tier despite being quite an old captain.
>>143025448
Almighty is more like D4C.
King Crimson doesn't have anything to do with reversal though, so I don't see why Shinji's bankai would be comparable to it.
>>143024637
>>143024535
exactly. everyone was already battered.
>>143027315
Well he's nowhere near as old as Kyouraku or Unohana, so that's not really a fair comparison. The only fight he's ever 'won' was against unreleased Grimmjow so there's not really a lot to go off of in terms of powerlevel.
>>143027656
Gin wasn't as old as those two either, but he was still just below them in terms of skill and overall power. We don't know Isshin or Urahara's respective ages, but I doubt they're much older than Shinji as well.
Shinji's shikai is unimpressive, too.
>>143020353
Kubo needs to give him a bankai first
I agree that he's fantastic. Probably the most frustrating part about the mess Bleach has become is how illogical the characters have to be for the plot to work. Hmmm, fighting Aizen the most hype, powerful character in the known universe? Better leave my mask off AND not use my Bankai!
>>143027728
Sakanade alone would've allowed him to kill Aizen if Shinji didn't act like a fucking retard all the time
>>143027216
THIS THIS THIS.also are my Unohana bros in the house?
>>143027807
I'm still so fucking mad about that bankai.
>>143027728
mate he had shinji as a character since before bleach started. he appeared on 1st arc art pages. he has a bankai. and it is going to rek shit.
>>143026743
His fight with Kenpachi lasted long enough that in terms of brute force they were able to fight and endure as equals. I think he was serious against Tousen and overpowered, but that's to be expected because they're at the same level of power and Tousen got Hollow abilities.
>>143025292
The Vizards were tired, but Love and Ogre guy didn't use their Bankais to begin with against Starrk. Urahara's Bankai could've been used to at least attempt to do something, like say try to deconstruct Aizen so they could remove the Hogyoku from him. Clearly Kubo a.) hadn't thought far enough ahead at that point and hadn't thought up Bankais for his characters yet or b.) his pacing was awful enough to force him to rush a conclusion instead of exploring everybody's abilities. Either way it's shoddy writing and forced the characters to make completely irrational decisions.
>>143027846
we can only hope for a flashback. its a strange fucking thing - appearing to melt only skin but not hair or eyes...maybe it was the personification/materialization of the lust of battle ? actually i have another theory (pic related)
>>143027846
WHAT
DOES
IT
DO
>>143027975
Yeah, I don't know. I don't really understand what your theory leads to, though.
>>143028017
No idea. The most common theory is acid, but that isn't very impressive.
>>143027959
love is ogre guy. rose is the music fag
>>143027709
Don't really see how Gin even comes close to Kyouraku or Unohana in terms of power, his specialty is in one-hit kills and not much else.
It suffers more from the 'explain my technique' syndrome than any other Shikai.
>>143028127
We've never really seen Gin fight seriously, but he had no effort pushing back Ichigo in bankai, and also dominated from start to finish when he fought Hitsugaya.
He fights dirty, like Shunsui, but the speed of his Zanpakuto gives him another massive advantage. I'd say he's pretty close to top-tier.
>explain my technique
Aizen was able to easily overcome Sakanade.
>>143028072
Shit my bad. We still haven't seen Love's Bankai either, have we?
>>143028064
clear waters = unohanas shikai. tenjiros waters of healing.
clear waters turning black = her bankai.
shiva wandered the universe - like unohana did - looking for strong fighters to fight.
>>143028230
We've seen Rose's bankai, though.it's shit
>>143027757
He was still under an illusion the whole time. Only thing that would have changed was that Momo would be stabbed a bit earlier.
>>143027216
>Breaks even with Hollowified Tõsen until Hisagi finishes him off
You're not serious are you? Masked Tosen was breaking even with a BANKAI. Then when he used his resurreccion he offhandedly blocked a blow from Tenken, which broke the blade, and then one-shotted Komamura with his free hands. He wasn't even remotely serious and Komamura was still on his deathbed after one attack. The only reason Komamura is alive is because Tosen was so distracted by his newfound vision that he didn't sense Hisagi sneak up on him.
>>143028230
the other anon who replied wasnt me. its weird man, surely loves shouldnt been oni based but it seems kenny took that one.
>>143028304
its fine if you apply real world logic to piercing your own eardrums. youd probably be crying on the floor if it happened to you. your balance would be fucked etc etc
Also shinigirly asses just because.
>>143027959
Yeah but there's also no way to tell for certain that the target you're deconstructing is Aizen. Aizen was a cocky son of a bitch but I doubt he'd sit there and tank a Bankai just for shits and giggles.
It wasn't masterfully written but I can sort of see why the major fighters wouldn't use their bankais there.
>>143028376
Tosen was Hollowfied perfectly by Hogyoku. The fact that Komamura was able to stand up to normal version Tosen as long as he did alone shows Komamura's strength.
Shinji's Vizard mask alone gives him Bankai-level strength. I assume Tosen's the same way and improved, if only because he got to receive a perfect Hollowfication whereas Shinji was an experiment.
>>143028672
shunsuis bankai engulfed the vandenreichen realm. even askin shit himself during it.
>>143028672
Didn't stop the Captains from stabbing Aizen right through the heart when in fact it was an illusion. I don't think that's an excuse considering the damage they did to Momo.
>>143028713
That's kinda the argument here, Askin wasn't directly in it and he shat himself, so we can consider that a 'safe distance.' If he'd used it vs. Aizen all of SS's fighters would've been taken out.
>>143028220
>Aizen was able to easily overcome Sakanade.
After Shinji explained to him exactly how it works.
>>143028764
Aizen said it himself. Even if you're aware of Kyouka Suigetsu's abilities and its activation there's still no way to guard against it or prepare for it. The Captains were doing all they could to combat Aizen, he just had the perfect counter ready which is why he got that far in the first place.
The bigger question is why did Ichigo wait until Hitsugaya stabbed Momo to say anything? He obviously saw that shit was wrong from the start but waited until it was over to yell out.
>>143028931
>The bigger question is why did Ichigo wait until Hitsugaya stabbed Momo to say anything?
KS manipulates all 5 senses, anon, including hearing.
>>143028764
askin was the only one to knock swordnegro on his ass. if he was shitting himself then it was for good reason. and yes its not like the SS guys were doing anything anyway. kubo himself said that he wanted us to wonder if kyoraku could take out aizen with bankai
>>143028961
Shit
I never even thought of that
>>143028931
But they weren't doing all they could because there were still a few Vizard Bankais that could've been activated. Although yeah, I wonder if Rose's Bankai would've done shit to Aizen, and maybe Shinji's Shikai is more effective in a group situation than his Bankai, impossible to argue until we know what it is. Your argument makes sense.
Still, no excuse for Urahara not to have used his Bankai. Even if he's risking getting Keikaku'd, he was still willing to stab at Aizen and cut him with a sword, it's no difference, even if Aizen can stop it you have to give it your all.
>>143029001
True, but at the time, Shunsui's options were either a.) use a suicide technique that would potentially murder himself and all his friends and maybe Aizen, or b.) use a more conservative strategy to pair up his abilities with his buddies. Had Aizen not been using hypnosis, the latter was viable and it makes sense he'd take the safer route.
>>143029176
he wouldve fucked aizen up man. he didnt use it because he wouldve murdered 70% of the gotei doing it.
Where do you think Kubo gets his information about fighting and swordplay?
>>143029270
I legitimately wonder if it would have done shit to Aizen.
Aizen is literally immortal with the Hogyouku so the first two acts wouldn't do much to him. Then the reiatsu drain would kill every single one of the captains long before it even affected Aizen. And the throat cutting thing might actually kill him but there's still no guarantee with the Hogyouku.
>>143029445
Ginjo's just full of shit all the time. That's not breaking news
>>143029445
A dumpster, along with the rest of his ideas.
>>143029499
Here's your upvote
>>143029465
Kyoraku fought Aizen pre-Hogyoku activation, so he wasn't immortal yet. That would've been the best time to do it.
I wonder what Aizen's Bankai is.
>>143029560
I will never forget the fake spoilers that said his bankai was time travel.
>>143029560
A regular sword that makes you think it has some broken ass powers.
Speaking of Aizen, do we know if he still has the Hogyoku within him?
>>143029665
Pretty sure, that's the whole reason he was bound to the lowest level of hell or whatever, he literally can't be executed so they can only lock him up with all his powers sealed
>>143029480
Yeah it's totally only Ginjo who says retarded things.
>>143029729
But he's right.
>>143028684
This, and remember the fact Tousen casually merked Grimmjow's arm
>>143029729
I feel like Kubo was kind of playing on Kenpachi's retardedness here, it's humorous/terrifying that Kenpachi is so ridiculously strong that he just has to hold a sword with two hands instead of one to boost his power.
A better example would be the crock of shit that was Ichigo fighting Renji and Ichigo having flashbacks to Urahara comparing swords to guns and saying that all attacks have an 'ammo limit.'
>>143029802
Wasn't he saying how many times an attack could be done, without pause inbetween it? I mean, he is kinda right about it, right?
>>143029802
But he's right though? No matter how many times you swing the sword there's eventually going to be an opening.
>>143029891
>>143029905
Yeah but it was explained in a convoluted, drawn-out way that never comes back again, even implied. Take instead Ikkaku vs. Ichigo, where the spear splits. There's actual combat depth there, adding dimensionality to a fight that would otherwise be about range. Instead of having a four-page, drawn out exposition on how an opponent will leave themselves open, we see in one beautiful spread what Ikkaku's strength is and what Ichigo's weakness is.
Of course, that battle ends exactly like Renji's does, with Ichigo screaming loudly and making an explosion happen and disregarding all logic and strategy, but that's because Kubo doesn't know how to end fights in anything outside 'willpower.'
(Kind of an exaggeration, there are some occasional strategy-based twist endings for fights which are alright, but essentially Kubo runs out of ideas for what to do with each character's power pretty quickly.)
>>143024427
His character arc was great, until the Shinigami came and fucked up his progression.
>>143030081
>that never comes back again, even implied.
It literally does though, Ichigo directly references it when he trained against Jackie Tristan
Since we're somewhat discussing the Fullbring arc, why didn't Ginjo steal Orihime's Fullbring? It would have made him an incredibly versatile fighter. His plan would have been much easier to pull off if he had her power.
What is current Sado's power level? Is he captain level?
>>143030441
It's probably not a Fullbring, although it has many qualities of one. Unlike Chad, Kubo never confirmed the source of Orihime's power.
Why doesn't Kubo let him do something other than job?
>>143030532
not in a million years.
>>143030532
We'll be able to judge his powers when he fights the statueswhich are controlled by sternritters
>>143030532
We really have no way of measuring his current power level, although at his best he's low-level Captain/ high-level Lieutenant. His role lately has been in support for his teammates.
>>143030200
You're right, my bad -- had completely forgotten about most of that arc.
Still, that fight was actually based on ammo. Like, Ichigo's fullbring is the exact same scenario as having a gun and once it runs out of bullets you're vulnerable.
My problem, I guess, with the gun metaphor is that it compares the vulnerability of committing yourself to a sword strike to the vulnerability of reloading. Also just seems like a shallow, copout way to try to add depth to the fight.
>>143030709
>his role lately
>>143030673
ahahahahahahaha NEVER EVER
>>143030711
>My problem, I guess, with the gun metaphor is that it compares the vulnerability of committing yourself to a sword strike to the vulnerability of reloading. Also just seems like a shallow, copout way to try to add depth to the fight.
It might just make more sense in Japanese than it does in English, although I don't have any raws.
>Also just seems like a shallow, copout way to try to add depth to the fight.
That's your opinion, Ichigo vs Renji had enough buildup on it's own, imo
>>143020353
Because since his power is interesting Kubo will have to actually think when doing battle scenes, instead of just making the MC charge his fucking omnislash attack.
>>143030622
Because there ain't no shame in Kingin' like Kong
>>143027315
Shinji used to be built as a foil to Aizen and was effectively the first character in the entire series to fight him head on and legitimately get a hit in.
When Kubo realized he made too many fucking characters, that original role kind of went to shit.
>>143030562
>not a Fullbring
What would it be then? That makes no sense.
>>143021224
Shuhei Hisagi is my religion, you can fuck right off with that dumb shit
>>143031133
Not same anon, but I don't think it's a fullbring either, her power literally creates living beings out of hairpins, I just feel like there is something more going on there
>>143031133
Orihime is a special snowflake anon. It's more like Hachigen's space-time Kido.
>>143031051
Shinji is actually a pretty good mentor for Hinamori. They were both used by Aizen so they have that in common.
>>143031221
Will we ever find out? It is a little odd that she is fighting Yhwach with Ichigo.
>>143031253
Right, but that doesn't explain what her hair pins are / her powers.
>>143031546
I hope she is related to the soul king
>>143031546
>Right, but that doesn't explain what her hair pins are / her powers.
That's my point, there's no definitive explanation. I actually agree that she's highly likely a variant of Fullbringer, and thus to answer your previous question I'd say Ginjou likely didn't know what Aizen knew about Orihime's powers.
>>143031546
I hope we find out, I thought it was odd as well, but she does just stand in the background in a lot of important fights. She was standing there screaming "kurosaki-kun" every five seconds in the Ulqiorra fight
>>143031646
>I'd say Ginjou likely didn't know what Aizen knew about Orihime's powers.
He saw her heal, saw her shield, and even saw her upgraded shield that not even Aizen knew about. He was shocked.
>>143021224
I always thought that flesh-sheath was made from the foreskins of defeated Quincy, not an umbilical cord.
>>143031133
There are theories that she is a Sternritter, but one that Ichigo created accidently, since he is in most likelyhood a special Quincy with the power to make others stronger and give a part of his soul to create a Schrift.
>>143031822
Different anon, but he probably means that Aizen knew it reversed time itself, Ginjou might not have. plus he was a shitty character
>>143031576
She's the left/right leg of the Soul King.
>>143031681
If you think about it, Orihime has been present for most of Ichigo's transformations / big fights.
>>143031874
I don't buy that. Why aren't there other Sternritters that were created by Ichigo? Why is she the only one?
>>143031822
>He saw her heal, saw her shield, and even saw her upgraded shield that not even Aizen knew about. He was shocked.
He saw an impressive ability, not Event Rejection. I believe only AIzen and possibly Unohana knew that Orihime's power lied in 'God's territory'.
Besides, as long as she was under Tsukishima's ability he had no reason to steal it, at least not for the brief time he had become released of the same ability.
>>143032013
Actually only this and Ulquiorra's. Same as Uryuu who was there against Ulquiorra and Ginjou and technically still shared panel time with Ichigo and was also the opponent for the big fight of the first arc.
>>143032013
I hope that she has something to do with him being as strong as he is. It would be cool to make her directly tied to his powers, then I wouldn't be as mad that she is always just standing there crying and screaming his name
>>143032045
Not this anon, but Kubo can easily just pull some shit like
>Chad is a Sternritter too, the ability he gained is to manifest a Fullbring without an object
>Orihime's ability could be the Rikka as a whole, or it could be the ability to breathe life into her Fullbring
Could explain no others because Ichigo's soul sharing power is weak and only works on humans with Hollow influence, basically Fullbringers.
Although I think it is obvious that Kubo at the very least toyed with the idea of Tatsuki, Keigo and Mizurio gaining some level of abilities. So there's some other "Sternritters" who only gained spiritual awareness from Ichigo.
>>143031871
w-wat
>>143032045
1) Because Ichigo can't control it and only accidently gave Orihime a Schrift, while with the others he didn't give anything. And he probably only started affecting others after he got Shinigami powers.
2) Because of the heart. The Schrift gives powers based on the heart of the Sternritter. Maybe the other didn't wish powers enough.
3) Because they unlike Orihime are humans. I'm not saying she is, but there is the possibility that her mother had an affair with someone else.
Honestly, you could also ask, why she is the only one, who got powers from the Hogyoku. You can substitude Ichigo with it, since the Hogyoku functions the same way as the special Quincy (and Gerard's Miracle). The princple remains the same. Orihime was the only one who got powers from it.
>>143031871
Mayuri's theme are babies and birth/death. Szayel, Zommari or Pepe would be the one, who would have something made of foreskin.
>>143032082
>Besides, as long as she was under Tsukishima's ability he had no reason to steal it
He could have stolen it for the upcoming fight. It would be incredibly useful to have it, especially since her powers have potent offensive and defensive potential.
>>143032332
>Maybe the other didn't wish powers enough.
Tatsuki wanted more than anything to help protect and fight for Orihime. She curses how powerless she is often.
>Because they unlike Orihime are humans
What could she be then?
I just don't buy that Orihime was the only one to get a Schrift.
>>143032396
you copycat motherfakuer
>>143021224
>>143032231
>It would be cool to make her directly tied to his powers
Brother and sister when?
>>143032450
>He could have stolen it for the upcoming fight
See
>at least not for the brief time he had become released of the same ability.
Ginjou wasn't Ginjou while he was under Tsukishima's ability.
>>143025159
she won't but still, wish you luck
>>143032595
That would be the best thing I think he could do with this story at this point, just pepper in some incest
>>143032730
>just pepper in some incest
Shunsui and Nanao.
>>143032507
By the time Tatsuki wanted powers, it was to late. I think Ichigo's giving a Schrift was only possible because of the presence of the Hogyoku. Also Tatsuki and the others all got spiritual awareness and some Reiatsu which is a first step. Orihime actually had that from the very begining, so that's why she got powers before the others. Chad was lucky that he already was a Fullbring, so more Reitasu and strength was all he needed.
Orihime could be a Quincy/Human hybrid because he mother, who's canonically a faithless whore, had an affair with some Quincy guy. May be the reason for why they tried to kill little Orihime.
>>143032531
You didn't write about Szayel, Zommari and Pepe though.
>>143032771
Wait are they actually related? because that would be fantastic
>>143032856
She's his brother's daugher
>>143032883
but is it brother or rukongai 'brother' ?
>>143020353
You mean the guy who has won once and gets jobbed at every opportunity?
>>143032680
Someone this happy can't die.
>>143033224
He's a noble, so they are blood related. Though it's actually not confirmed if he's the father. Given Shunsui's age, when he died, it's possible that Nanao was conceived after her death. I wouldn't be surprised if Shunsui were the father.
>>143033359
She will be fine. If Orihime dies, who will heal everyone else?
>>143033410
Silly! Unohana wi- oh.
>>143033410
The new Soul King. There's no problem with her dying.
>>143033437
>first move as commander captain
>sends his best medic to her death
>>143033370
out /b/
>>143033224
He's from a lesser noble family in Seireitei, not Rukongai, so in all likelihood they were actual brothers.
>>143033410
Usually I wouldn't be worried, but she's facing a Quincy. Who knows what will happen to her after she dies.
>>143033458
There can be only a new Soul King after Yhwach is defeated. And as things are now, he will be as impotent as Yhwach's father,
>>143033437
you motherf-
>>143033507
They are already uncle niece otherwise.
>>143033490
To train the Gotei's best fighter? She made her choice, if she wanted to live she'd have simply killed Zaraki. Shunsui's not to blame for that result.
>>143033490
What has he done that makes him worthy of being the captain commander besides having been trained with yama jii? If anything Mayuri is the most competent and useful captain.
>>143033532
Still doesn't solve the problem that once Orihime dies, that no one can heal the others and save them from death. Yhwach also showed alot of disinterest in actually killing Orihime.
>>143033744
>Yhwach also showed alot of disinterest in actually killing Orihime.
It's going to be interesting to see if he addresses her next chapter. The last chapter really helped set the stage for the upcoming fight.
>>143033737
>If anything Mayuri is the most competent and useful captain.
And yet he's batshit insane. Shunsui is simply the most respected among the existing Captains.
>>143033744
I mean, I guess. The thing is, it's possible that this is going to be the fight where people actually die. It makes me worry not only for Orihime, but the parents as well.
>>143033490
Kekkkkk, I never thought about this at all, I still love him but that is great
>>143033854
>Kekkkkk
[Cancer]
>>143033737
He is also the most crazy one. He would turn the Seretei into one giant research lab. He is also not trust worthy, not good with people, a criminal, not someone to whom the other captains would actually listen and probably doesn't care. He also lacks in every department besides intelligence, kido and science.
Shunsui has overall better abilities/stats, a better Bankai and better soft skills.
>>143033737
mayuri is autistic as fuck and doesnt give a shit about the gotei.
Holy fuck! I just realized that if Pernida isn't dead it would be a fusion of Kenpachi and Mayuri
>>143033847
Worry more about the parents. They have to eventually bait Ichigo's ass. It's unlikely that two major characters will die in such a short time. It's either Isshin or Orihime and since Isshin has to save Ichigo anyway, he's more likely to die. He also has an ability that makes him loose his powers. So it's not hard to see hwo he will die.
>>143033971
wat?
>>143033836
ukitake would be the choice if he werent dying
>>143033977
Right, but why wouldn't Orihime just heal Isshin? I doubt she'd willingly leave someone to die. She can't even watch Menoly/Harribel die.
>>143028017
OKAY SO HERES WHAT HER BANKAI DOES
First of all it fills the arena with a strange redish black liquid, which reveals her real sword, if you are touched by this, your skin, soul energy, everything simply melts away for a short period of time till you are nothing but bones.
This means NOTHING, but your ability to combat stays, no spells or kido. Its just your sheer skill to fight.
Anyone normally would be trashed by this because she is one of the best in kendo. With the exception of Yamamoto and Kenpachi anyone else would be beat by her sheer skill
>>143033971
Holy fuck! You sound incredibly juvenile and don't even bother explaining your idea
>>143033971
Don't forget Yoruichi and at least one or two Royal Guard.
>>143033836
>>143033883
>>143033922
Was speaking mostly by track record. Yeah he may be an ex-criminal and batshit but he's also saved the gotei 13 more than the others.
Who else would you pick then?
>>143034011
If he weren't dying he'd be dead. It's more or less his defining characteristic.
>>143034071
Byakuya or Komamura are my choices
>>143034071
Aizen Sosuke
>>143034127
Byakuya is a sociopath
>>143034040
shit that makes sense
>>143034071
He's a necessary evil but he's not leadership material. Shunsui, Unohana, and Ukitake were the only real candidates, of the three it's no surprise Shunsui was chosen.
>>143034021
Isshin will probably tell them to escape, because they are not strong enough to defeat him yet. Maybe tell them to go to Kukkaku. Meanwhile he tries to stall Yhwach and dies in the process. While Ichigo his friends and every other character Kubo wants, escape with Yukio's box.
>>143034071
Komamura is easily the best for Captain Commander, after his fight they rushed to the 1st Division, hopefully he becomes the CC
>>143034048
Whats their to explain that isnt already obvious?
Pernida uses its veins to twist peoples bodies when ever it does this it acquires the abilities and intelligence of the effected entity
Ie. When it touched Kenpachi it acquired his power and intelligence.
Later in the fight however it also touched Mayuri. Meaning Pernida would eventually evolve into a being of Kenpachi and Mayuri
>>143034258
Hes literally just a dog now.
>>143034317
I'm sure Mayuri/Urahara will bring him back later
>>143034317
So?
He is still the most loyal to the Soul Society, he even gave up his family's linage to help them, Kubo said he was the definition of loyal, and with time hell grow to look like his Grandfather Clifford.
>>143034265
>their
>implying that a living hand that gets influenced by whatever it comes in contact with, which happens to include Zaraki and Mayuri, is anything close to
>a fusion of Kenpachi and Mayuri
>>143034383
And he's a good boy
>>143034258
>>143034317
>>143034383
I think the idea is that he dishonored himself by swearing revenge for Yamamoto, similar to how Hitsugaya swore revenge on Aizen. His actions were justified but he sacrificed himself and basically put himself out of the battle. One pf my favorite Captains but not the best leader of the Gotei.
>>143034367
Unlikely. What happened to Komamura is some mystical shit.Urahara is actually out of his expertise there. He also literally ripped out his heart.Mayuri couldn't even fix Kira's organs and only make him a zombie. His grandfather is old enough to know that the Shinigami are not the original rulers of Soul Society and he still didn't find a way to revert the transformation.
>>143034513
Urahara is never out of his expertise
>>143033737
>What has he done that makes him worthy of being the captain commander besides having been trained with yama jii? If anything Mayuri is the most competent and useful captain.
I guess his strenght and experience. Mayuri and Urahara have a shady history with SS, though they should be considered for the RG.
>>143034621
>though they should be considered for the RG.
Never
Nothing they have done is worthy of being in the Royal Guard
Mayuri greatest invention is a being combining Aritifical Souls and Gigais. Guess who created both of those 110+ years ago?
>>143021224
What chapter is this?
>>143034834
497
learn to reverse image search summerfag
>>143034621
>Mayuri
>RG material
He's a necessary evil but he's still an evil bastard. He's a garbage leader. Friendly reminder that he did this for literally no reason at all.
>>143034955
>he was a Hinamorifag
I don't feel bad for him anymore.
>>143034071
>Who else would you pick then?
Well...
Soifon is shit in every aspect.
Rose is too weak and has no notable feature.
Unohana is a psycho and dead.
Shinji may be too weak, but on all the other fields he'd make a better leader than Shunsui (actual leadership skill, is a senior captain, has history both in and out of SS). I guess being a past-renegade also influenced on that?
Byakuya is too cold, doesn't really have a sense of camaraderie and couldn't even keep his VC loyal to him. Poor leader overall.
Komamura is too inexperienced and weak,, otherwise he'd be perfect.
Kensei is shit too.
Hitsugaya will be the next CC I guess.
Kenpachi no.
Mayuri doesn't give a shit about anyone else in SS.
Ukitake is always too sick to even direct his own division.
Love is shit.
Yoruichi doesn't give a shit either.
Urahara also would've been perfect, but I guess he was too inexperienced and, as an ex-renegade, not really a candidate.
In the end, I think the only really good alternatives could've been Urahara and Shinji.
Heck, Urahara would've been way better, not only has a great mind and is a great fighter, he's also a great leader (tamed Hiyori), has ties with the other captains and all the important people in the real world and, apparently, even with the Royal Palace. Maybe he'll become a Royal Guard.
>>143035009
Alright, I have to ask. Why do we not like hinamori?
>>143034955
That reminds me of what he said about Orihime. Even Mayuri was curious about her powers.
>>143034760
The fat one invented healing candy, both Mayuri and Urahara did way better shit than that.
>>143035011
Shunsui is far older than either Shinji or Urahara and far more experienced, Kisuke doesn't have a captain seat so I doubt he'd even be eligible, Shinji was also MIA for the past century.
>>143035122
>>143034511
And the guy who never did shit for his divison and let his VCs handle all the troubles is somehow better?
>>143035122
What's to like?
>>143035144
>The fat one invented healing candy
She invented the Artificial Soul you fucking speedreader.
>>143035209
The only real crime I see that she may have committed is being overly loyal to a man she didn't even know was evil. I thought that she was a really sweet and caring character
>>143035207
You do realize Shunsui was the captain of the 8th division far longer than Nanao was his VC, right?
>>143034760
>Nothing they have done is worthy of being in the Royal Guard
...Urahara invented the Hogyoku you tool.
>>143035268
>implying
>>143035384
Implying what? I stated an opinion, I didn't imply anything
>>143035383
>"Hougyoku was a mistake" - Kisuke Urahara
>>143035168
>far older
Has it ever been established how old is Shinji? Obviously Shunsui is older, but I don't think it's certain how much.
>>143035325
>VCs
That's plural.
>>143035427
>implying
>>143035447
It's still a great invention and it's still used to the benefit of SS (3 captains currently have a power-up thanks to it).
>>143035476
>>143035505
>used to the benefit of SS
>Aizen Sosuke
>benefit of SS
Maybe in the scheme of things he wasn't as bad as Yhwach but let's not kid ourselves.
>>143035558
By this reasoning they shoud kick Nimaya too because Aizen fucked SS thanks to his zanpakuto.
>>143035558
Every other arrancar was also made with the hougyoku as well,and most of them and Aizen are all helping save SS
>>143035552
>implying
>>143035616
But everyone has a Zanpakuto, not everyone is strong enough to kill God.
>>143035682
Are you suggesting Aizen be made an RG as well?
>>143035730
His zanpakuto was good enough to kill all of the Gotei except the CC, that would still be a big problem.
>>143035877
Not nearly as much of a problem as the Hougyoku.
>>143034317
That was for himself not his zan spirit, good thing his bankai is a giant demon thing, he can just go inside of it and control it from there.
>>143035995
Does he still have his Zanpakuto, let alone his Bankai?
>>143035802
Aizen should be made captain commander
>>143036050
Well he would be perfect if he actually cared about SS.
He's a sociopath yes but so was Yamamoto.
>>143036050
>Captain Commander
>not God
Ask not the sparrow how the eagle soars!
>>143036087
Amen, Yamamoto was definitely a sociopath. I think Aizen will surprise us by the end of the series. As strong as he is they could definitely use a captain commander like him
>>143036181
Aizen is God, In his spare time he should be commanding the captains of soul society though
>>143036255
If Aizen were God there'd be nothing he wouldn't do, that's the point of being God.
>>143031051
>was the first character to get a hit on aizen
God damn it, that shit was so hype, where did it go wrong?
>>143036508
They kept going when Aizen was kill, that's where it went wrong
>>143036508
A lot of concepts were dropt as Bleach went on, Shinji being insanely strong (as his experience coupled with hollowification would suggest) was one of them.
How strong is Aizen now?
Is he weaker than Yhwach?
>>143036704
It made no sense that the dead captains that were capable of hollowfication didn't use it.
>>143034230
I still don't think Ichigo or Orihime would let him fight Yhwach alone. That goes against their character.
>>143036720
I think they will need him, I doubt he is stronger simply bc Yhwach has a really cheaty ability, but I think Aizen will always be stronger than Ichigo. He is essentially invincible
>>143036887
>When were you under the illusion that you changed the future?
>>143036974
Aizen is best villain
>>143037183
For me Bleach's main villain will always be Aizen, Ywach just plays second violine.
>>143037183Byakuya was actually the best villain to be honest anon
>>143037701
Honestly for me the series will end after the Aizen fight, I like the next chapter where it begins the with his age and height and says he can't see ghosts, that was great, but that's it
>>143037835
Hahahaha That is funny, now Hisagi is one of my favorite characters, but Aizen>Byakuya
>>143037941
Nvm, is Shiba fag. Thought it was Hisagi at first
>>143037941
I didn't like how Ichigo got all of his previous powers back plus some powerup on top of it in the Fullbringer arc. It made Ichigo losing all of his powers pointless and just an excuse to filll in the story of fullbringers which feels like a filler.
>>143038097
It practically was filler, I honestly don't like the Sternritter arc that much, but I am too invested now and I am still holding out hope that it will get better
>>143038181
There's like 2 enemies left.
One day.
>>143036704
>Shinji being insanely strong
nope
He had the reiatsu of shikai ichigo and used his mask on a one armed grimmjow
Shinji is minimum base ulquiorra with his mask
It would be more Kubo to have Aizen as the mentor for Ichigo's next training arc than a tag team fight against YHWH
>>143036791
its not stable
Mashiro can hold her mask for 15 hours, but turned into 5-10 minutes
