Can we have a Power Level thread?
Is this the right list?
Demonbane can't kill Iihiko.
These Power Charts are always dodgy.
>>123209738
It's shit.
>>123209738
>Demonbane not higher then everything else
It's a shitty and incorrect chart.
>>123209924
>Demonbane can't kill
Stopped reading there
No, this is.
It is always wrong with DIo that low since he is technically immortal and can punch at the speed of light. Not to mention that people wouldn't even know what hit them without a Stand
>>123209924
It's not about who can kill whom, it's about level of destructive power.
>>123210158
This one make the most sense out of all I've seen. Father seems a bit low though.
>>123210158
>All that low level casual shit
Disgusting
>>123209738
>Gemini Saga
>Not Virgo Shaka
Reminder that Shaka fought Saga, Shura and Camus at the same time while TRYING to get killed and they still couldn't defeat him until he stopped fighting back and literally asked them to just kill him already so he could move on to Hades.
>>123210254
Then what's all this arguing about pixels about?
All of Featherine, Demonbane, Myuugi etc could banish existence with relative ease, so they should all be level.
>>123210541
because demonbane is one pixel stronger than those other shit characters
>>123210158
>>123209738
>Not using the updated version
>>123210541
Because of how EGD operates on TOAA opponents which honestly shouldn't matter if the list is based solely on destructive power
>>123209738
>kiss shot higher than alucard
>>123210610
Nope, Iihiko would beat him in a fight.
Destructive power is another debate.
>>123210610
This feels like some form of reverse trolling. Arguing about a single pixel on a powerlevel chart is as autistic as it gets.
>>123210541
EGD's destructive power is higher then those character's so there is no reason for them to be placed on the same level.
>>123209738
I haven't followed, why is Sailor Moon so strong?
>>123210780
>Iihiko would beat him in a fight
Great, the autistic MBfags are here.
The one true God can create the universe, destroy the universe, and is invincible to a higher degree than anything on that chart.
>>123211090
You better not be talking about the mahouka MC.
>>123210780
That faggot would never exist if he started shit with Demonbane
Reminder that while Demonbane is fucking stronk he's still limited to Azathoth's infinite universe and Myuugi with some shit of log domain.
>>123211305
No, the God from mekakucity actors, though it probably exists in basically the same form in other series too.
>>123211559
>There was Demonbane free of the limitations of Azathoth's infinite universe
>>123210874
>>123211418
Great, Suggsfags are here.
>>123211559
>still limited to Azathoth's infinite universe
Not EGD.
>>123209738
>>123210158
>Nyarlathotep nowhere in sight
Kill yourselves
>>123211418
Don't matter, faggot, Demonbane can't kill Iihiko under any circumstances beyond moving him with words, which won't happen.
We all agreed in the last thread that Demonbane vs Iihiko would be a stalemate with Iihiko possessing a slight edge:
>>123083300
>>123211818
>implying Demonbane can't override others powers
>implying Demonbane couldn't beat him with words
>>123211818
>Demonbane can't kill Iihiko
It can. Your meta-bullshit doesn't change the fact that there is nothing EGD can't do. There isn't a single character that is stronger.
ITT: People don't know about fallen Demonbane aka God of Destruction Demonbane who is leagues above even Elder God Demonbane.
GoD Demonbane busted most of the Outer Gods by itself. There's less than a handful of Outer Gods left and they are on the run from GoD Demobane. By the time of D.Y.N. Freaks, the OGs on the run went into hiding as mere avatars, which they got reduced to. Even Azathoth got busted and was reduced to an avatar who sleeps inside a loli (Azana-chan). At the end of D.Y.N. Freaks, a single manifested arm of God of Destruction Demonbane destroyed the entirety of Haganeya-verse. The author killed everyoneoff and destroyed everything except Azana-chan.
>>123211895
This entire series sounds like its built on asspulls.
>>123211895
Then why can't I find any mention of this anywhere?
>>123211924
Maybe, but it's really cool and awesome.SALVATION of the universe. Fallen Demonbane must be stopped.
Bad news, the author doesn't seem like he wants to focus on any of the projects he started in the past nor seems enthusiastic in progressing the story. I guess his passion is dying. It might have to do with his apparent obsession with KanColle, which has been going on for a couple of years now.
>>123212035
1) You didn't read D.Y.N. Freaks
2) You didn't check author's twitter who tweeted the ending of D.Y.N. Freaks and explained other stuff
3) You didn't fucking google
>>123212035
Because you don't read anything except for that one image listing EGD supposed 'power'.
>>123211863
and he couldn't.
>>123211884
He can't kill Azathoth, retard.
Demonbane is too still restrained by the ridiculous logic of his series.
>>123211895
and characters in the Suggsverse are far stronger than Fallen Demonbane.
>>123211895
>loli
Oh, er, this slipped my mind. I mean young girl. Azana is really a young bishoujo rather than loli. I keep wanting Azathoth to be a loli, so that leaked from my desire.
>>123212283
>Demonbane is too still restrained
Isn't D.Y.N Freaks an ecchi manga?
>>123212329
#brainsnap
>>123211924
>asspulls
I would exactly call it asspulls. Every power-up in the first VN that seemingly came out of nowhere had a somewhat reasonable explanation behind them at the end of the VN. Those extreme powerelevels discussed in these threads only come into play in the sequel fan-disk. They don't even leave the earth for the fights until the final part of the first VN and with the exception of a single weapon given to them by a God the worst that regular Demonbane can do is using infinite heat to burn something away by touching it. It's a lot more sensible then what it appears to be.
>>123212348
No, but the VN is a porn game so it wouldn't matter if it was.
Demonbane only wishes he could be as powerful as those in the Suggsverse
>>123212318
>characters in the Suggsverse
Literally who.
>>123212395
EG Demonbane solos
>>123211679
>>123211758
This is why 'demonbanefags' are bunch of faggots. People keep listing powers that doesn't even have concrete evidence of it and are just using the words 'infinite world' too literally. Azathoth's created universe is named as infinite world but it doesn't mean you can add your fucking fanfiction in it and write that as canon.
Speaking of that, have anyone read his idea about infinite world -2 after it got destroyed by supposedly GoD? What are your thoughts about it?
>>123212394
I always thought that asspulls are literally Demonbane power. I mean, for every fight in the first VN there's some part that always came out of nowhere.
It's usually fucking awesome though.
>>123210685
CENA WINS LOL
>>123212524
>came out of nowhere
Could you give a example of this? It always felt somewhat logical to me but it may be that I was just rolling with it and didn't take my time to think about how much, or little, sense it actually made.
>>123212524
1) You sound ESL
2) Demonbane can summon stronger versions of itself no matter how impossible their existence is
3) There was Demonbane that kicked your ass
>>123212425
Author of Heir to the Stars; home to some of the most overpowered characters you'll ever see.
Quote:
>>Someone recently brought to my attention that because I included Fan Fiction in my story, it does not seem right. I know what Fan Fiction is and I am well-aware that some could write a story including my work. At the same time, I already created the idea. Even if you write a Fan Fiction about my work, I have already included it in my work. In fact, you can only write about it because I have already dictated that you would and could. I created that possibility for you. So no matter what you think, you might as well state that I am that equation above God that has simply allowed you to write that story. Even if you try to write something that states that it was done before me, the fact remains that the thought and possibility came from me to even allow that. In essence, you have already become part of my work without you even knowing it because I created it... not you.
>>123212782
The first thing that came out of my mind is Shining Trapezohedron. I know that it's one of Nya's plan but at that time when it first appeared it came out of nowhere.
>>123212816
>summon stronger version of itself
>summon
What? The only time I remember he transformed into something stronger was from the LN and he didn't summon shit. The one from Demonbane sequel was basically EGD appearing for one scene and summon every version of himself inside Azathoth's infinite universe.
Oh and it's not that I'm arguing that whether it can't power-up or some shit whenever it meets stronger enemies because that's literally his power, I'm arguing that people usually use infinite world bullshit just to say "no there's a version of demonbane that can kick your ass!" when the truth is that it's still limited to Azathoth's universe.
Maybe a complete stretch, but I'm curious to see where Dandy ranks in all of this, considering he exists in any and all possibilities, and while he can die, his general existence can't be completely removed. That complied with the fact that god even offered him the position because of this, and he just flat out said no and walked away from it. That has to account for something.
>>123213363
Dandy would probably get ranked in the special tier along with the other bullshit users that can't be explained.
>>123213363
>>123213397
Yeah I'd say if Boobies were on the line, Dandy would tap into whatever "bullshit, god refusing, you can't stop me from existing, or doing what I want" power that drives him, and be ranked in the special tier.
>>123209738
>listing homu and walpurgis
almost every character in the DBZ maincast is stronger
>sakuya izayoi
kanako, byakuren, marisa, flandre almost every other halfassed touhou is stronger than her
>obito instead of madara
>evangeline instead of nagi or the lifemaker
>eva unit 01
>>123213040
Like you said, it was part of Nya's plan so I didn't count that one. The only parts that felt like it came out of nowhere was how the hell Ruri's presence managed to be enough help to Kurou beat Master Therion when he had the goddamned Shining Trapezohedron in his possession and Kurou didn't. There wasn't really enough of an explanation how that led to them breaking out of Nya's loop either but I'll just chalk it up to Haganeya having decided that her route needed a happy ending. Kurou getting the guns in Ruri's route was also out of left field without prior knowledge of everything about Ennea in Al's route, even then it made little sense for her to give them to him. All in all, Al's route could be said to make total sense while Ruri's strains your suspension of disbelief a bit more. I'm not even going to bring up Leica's route as it was a mess.
WHERE'S THE MOTHERFUCKING SEIYA AND SHAKA???????
>>123213040
You don't seem to understand how fucking broken Athleta Aeternum is.
>>123214002
That image sums it up nicely. Without the part of it summoning infinite versions that "will never exist" it would be just like every other "omnipotent" character with limited power. It's not just that it can do anything, it can even do what's impossible for it to do. You can't created something stronger then this.
Honestly, I think I would have preferred if the part of it summoning "Demonbane that had no possibility" was omitted as it would be more in line with how the Elder Gods were described in the epilogue of the first VN. Also, a large part of the fun comes from the Kurou being the underdog that bounces back stronger every time he is beaten down and this kind of ruins it by making a version of him perfectly omnipotent.
Where do you think super sayian god Gogita would rank?
>>123209738
So Ryner is more powerful then Goku?
Please explain
>>123210158
I love Bikki but this chart implies that she can beat Accelerator in any kind of fight when he hard-counters any pure melee fighters.
>>123214793
Spoiler: Omnipotent means that you can do anything, even the "impossible".
Stop trying to play with words
REMOVE POWER LEVEL THREADS
These should be a bannable offense. You have to be 18 to post here.
>>123217758
DELETE THIS
Why does every powerlevel thread just devolve into Demonbane circlejerking?
Tori-bot is the strongest.
>>123212912
This faggot seems to have some god complex or superiority complex as if nothing is more powerful than his "creations"
>>123217849
are you actually bothered by that fact?
>"muh fave char isn't as powerful as demonbane :((((("
Fuck off, the reason these threads are shit is because of shonenfags like yourself.
can someone please post the nozomu pasta
>>123217983
Fuck shonen, I don't care how powerful or not Demonbane is, it's just that every single thread turns into
>can this person beat Demonbane?
>no
>>123209738
>Medaka above Magic God Othinus
Last time I checked, Medaka wasn't able to destroy and create universe.
>>123218031
because it's true?
>>123218309
I'm saying it gets boring after the hundredth time we have this conversation.
>>123217685
I'm not trying to play with words. What I'm saying is simply that even though many character are supposed to be omnipotent almost none of them have been shown to be it by accountable feats, meaning that they aren't really omnipotent. Take Madoka for example, she was supposed to some form of omnipotent God at the end of the TV-series but then that was disproved by the fact that Homura one-upped her in the final movie. My wording may have been a little off but that's all I was trying to say.
>>123217983
Some people just don't understand simple logic. Bringing up Demonbane in any way however is a bad idea as most of the time it will only ruin the thread.
>>123218123
There really needs to be some kind of tier system in the chart. It better to argue about some kind of objective way to measure powerlevels across different series then making it just about vs battles.
>>123218341
Because Demonbane was used in order to end stupid powerlevel threads?
>>123218123
Still weaker than a zombie who was weaker than a dog.
>>123218393
I like it when people try to argue Featherine against it.
>>123210158
I've read Devilman, but I don't remember him doing anything that would put him that high.
>>123218478
Did you read Devilman Lady?
>>123218341
having this conversation in the first place is awful.
>>123218571
I haven't. I just kinda assumed the sequels weren't good for some reason
>>123218646
I personally enjoyed Devilman Lady a lot more then Devilman. I can't comment on the spin-offs as I haven't read them for the same reason as you.
Ajimu should have a rainbow
>>123210451
>Shaka is able to fight Shijima
>Despite him being death
>and being from the future
>and Shijima being his previous incarnation
>>123218352
>Take Madoka for example, she was supposed to some form of omnipotent God
But that's fucking wrong, numbnuts. She was never implied to be an omnipotent God. Madokami isn't a deity, she is a sentient concept. She has no power beyond what her role as the Law of the Cycle entails.
>>123219763
Okay that was a bad example, but the point still stands: Characters are implied to be omnipotent or wrongly thought to be by fans of the series, even though the are not. There are few character that we have actual proof of being omnipotent.
>>123210158
Where would TOAA and the LT be on this chart
>>123219999
TOAA would be the same as Tenchi, LT around Arceus
>>123211807
>Quantifying chaos
Nyarlathotep is everywhere on the scale, excluding a handful of pixels below Demonbane.
>>123211895
>>123212233
Elder God Demonbane is the summation of all that is Demonbane, nothing indicates that "D" is excluded from Demonbane Athleta Aeternum.
There's the fact that "D" seems to be destroying the multiverse, but this doesn't mean it's better than EGD.
Reality warpers and alike aside, who is the most powerful fighter?
>>123221743John Cena
>>123221743
Strictly physical or magic/"not-magic"-physical?
>>123221871
Can be both as long as it isn't some kind of 'I win automatically because I can warp you out of reality'-button.
>>123209738
Battler and Beatrice that low, Battler can tank an endless barrage of universe busters without a scratch ffs, Demonbane mecha shit wouldn't stand a chance.
>>123222172
>Demonbane mecha shit wouldn't stand a chance.
But who has the lowest power level /a/?
>>123222394
Shinji (no Unit 01)
>>123222394You
>>123222172
Battler is a faggot and Beatrice is a crossdressing crazy bitch, they both don't have any powers.
Stop being retarded with this Umineko shit
>>123209738
That special tier is shit, it defies the purpose of a true, autistic power level discussion.Haruhi is the strongest because her power is entirely passive to the point where she doesn't even know of its existence, meaning it has priority over any other power.
>>123222071
If we go by this chart >>123210158 then my bet would be Ilias. She is one of the two Goddesses that created the world in the MGQ Universe but she haven't shown any kind of reality warping. She is capable of unleashing a big bang on a single target and I don't think there is a a another character that can do that also isn't some kind of reality warper.
>>123222071
Demonbane that shut off its reality warping powers
>>123223640
Stop shitting up the thread.
>>123223719
>complaining about demonbane in a powerlevel thread
>>123223754
The question had nothing to do with Demonbane.
Shiki could kill everyone on that list.
>>123223778
The answer was Demonbane though
>>123209738
>Anti-Spiral higher than STTGL
>STTGL kills it
What
>>123210451
>>123219554
I'd argue that Saga really shouldn't be there at all. People included him there due to him being supposedly able to destroy galaxies, but there's no statement about that in the manga.
HOWEVER, he's getting a freaking Divine Cloth in the new anime, so I guess he'll soon actually end up around that ranking anyway.
>>123223837
It wasn't STTGL that defeated the Anti-Spiral
>>123210158
This chart is wrong.
>>123209738
This one is better.
>>123223837
Power levels Charts =/= Who beats who
>>123223837
>>123223877
Anti Spiral was defeated by Simon on his own
The Super Granzeboma was what was stronger than STTGL
>>123209924
This
>Arceus on the list even though its powerlevel dropped harshly after Mewtwo Y, and even more harshly after Mega-Ray
>Battler and Beatrice listed even though none of that shit actually happened
>demonbane
>>123223807
If you would have said a Demonbane that was summoned that was physical power incarnate or something along that line you would have been right. A being that can turn of its reality warping power is still a reality warper and not what that poster asked for.
>>123223936
>in game stats mattering
>>123223877
>>123223926
Yes, well I'd love to see Simon beat TAS when Grand Zamboa was billions of times bigger than he was.
>>123223936
>>Arceus on the list even though its powerlevel dropped harshly after Mewtwo Y, and even more harshly after Mega-Ray
That's just the in game tier list. He's in that position for being a creator god that controls time and space. It's not like abilities were retconned.
And he'll eventually get his true 1000 arms form as a Mega anyway and go back up in gameplay rankings.
>>123223992
>Pokemon lore
>not being a massive load of horseshit
You don't actually believe Arceus is Pokemon god, right?
>>123209738
Nope
>>123224014
>And he'll eventually get his true 1000 arms form as a Mega anyway and go back up in gameplay rankings.
>seriously implying that Arceus without its only unique ability will be any useful
>>123210685
But after tonight we need to update that shit with Roman Reigns instead of cena.
>>123209738
The only relevant version.
>>123224037
>created time and space
Sure sounds like it
>>123224074
>seriously implying they could fuck up a mega arceus
>>123224182
>created time and space
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Wasn't there another powerlist chart that didn't have any omnipotent/multiversial beings?
>>123224499
>It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
>It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.
>>123224555
I'm not that guy, but he's asking for facts, mythology isn't a fact...
>>123224555
also inb4 magcargo is hotter than the sun
>>123224555
>It is told in mythology
>It is said
Does that mean that Jesus exists? And that YHVH is all-powerful and literally perfect and benevolent?
>>123224499
Well, as far as actual feats go, Arceus can create a new Dialga or Palkia in Heart Gold/Soul Silver, just like the legends say he created them in the beginning, and those Pokemon have been show manipulating dimensions and such.
>>123224529
There was an attempt at a powerlevel chart for different tiers but it was never completed.
>>123209738
Zeed is a fucking multiversal, hes the highest tier
>>123224773
I don't have enough meme arrows for this
I had a serious fit of autism last night since I've seen so many versions of this chart and none of them have tiers.
If anyone ever decides to 'fix' it again list everything within these destructive/manipulation tiers:
Planet
Solar System
Galaxy
Galaxy Cluster
Universe
Multiverse
Megaverse
Put all characters including special characters within them based off past/current feats and not off there stated potential.
>>123224655
>making fun of religion
>>123224499
>>123224555
>>123224688
Futhermore, during that event, the game creators have clarified/explained that Arceus is remaking the universe from scratch to give you that Level 1 Dialga/Palkia/Giratina.
>>123224982
>making fun of religion
No, I'm just stating that there's no proof Jesus exists. You can believe in Jesus, but factually speaking he might as well not be real.
>>123224815
Outside of omnis, zeed is in the highest tier belonging to other multiversals.
>>123224964
>including special characters
>>123225083
There's no reason to keep a character in special tier based off the fact that there power can have infinite range but is nowhere near stated to.
Take for example Saitama, his biggest acts would still keep him listed in planet tier but then retards would complain that the theme of his character would be ruined if he's not compared to the strongest which makes for a completely retarded gauging.
>>123225365
The problem with your suggested tier is that destructive power alone doesn't necessarily determine the superiority of a character over another...
To make a simple example, Medaka doesn't have the destructive power of Ajimu, but she's still stronger.
>>123224964
I tried to do that, but everybody threw a fit
All these threads are useless without a working scouter.
>>123225632
You just stated this biggest issue with these threads, people keep trying to compare characters.
I do that too occasionally but there is no way to make any sort of chart that is good at all with that in mind.
>>123225632
Post Successor Arc Medaka isn't stronger than Ajimu silly.
>>123220134
I never understood just why exactly is Tenchi so damn high on the chart? Everything he has shown on screen hasn't been impressive in terms of power ranking. The only 'argument' I've heard for him is that he is a 22 Dimensional entity, which is bullshit since he has never shown that type of powerlevel at all.
You motherfuckers forgot about the Pre-retcon Beyonder motherfuckers. He can blink everything in this thread out of existence and if you deny that, then you are biased and don't know shit. He could blink out the infinite Demonbanes before making the whole Cthulu mythos his personal toys. Read up Secret Wars 1&2 if you're not one of those weeaboo faggots.
>>123219999
TOAA would be at the top of the list with the Pre-retcon Beyonder as they were equals. Even above Demonbane.
>>123210158
Why isn't Clow Reed On these charts?
>>123225632
No, Medaka is not stronger. She is simply the main character, which Ajimu had explained means that no matter how bullshit the enemies are, Medaka will always win because she's the protagonist in a shounen manga.
The narrative power of never losing due to plot != powerful.
>>123212816
>2) Demonbane can summon stronger versions of itself no matter how impossible their existence is
So, its power isn't infinite then?
>>123224964
The highest ones should be:
Omnipotent: (Shown that they are without a doubt omnipotent, e.g. Elder God Demonbane)
Possibly omnipotent: ( Have been stated to be omnipotent and could most likely be, but haven't shown proof enough to determine if truly omnipotent, e.g. Tenchi)
Nearly omnipotent: (Close to being omnipotent but proven not to be truly omnipotent, e.g. Myuugi)
Then some variation of you list without the Megaverse tier as it becomes redundant.
The should also maybe be a separate side-list for meta-characters, but they should also get also get a position in the tier chart. The reason for this is that there is always arguments about if meta-characters even play by the same rules as other by being representation of the writer, reader, and so forth. If one interprets that as some form of omnipotence than they should discuss about their placement in the tier chart, if one doesn't feel that it is a valid interpretation then they have their separate meta side-chart placement. You could also do this for the current special tier.
Another important thing is that there should be no difference being made for the position of characters inside the same tier. All characters in the same tier are classified as the same even though there are small individual differences, so no one can be placed higher then another inside the tier.
>>123225038
Are you serious? Most historians believe that Jesus existed, whether or not he's god is up to you.
>>123226959
FUCK GODDAMNIT! Stop using the word omnipotent. Omnipotent means can do anything, and if EDG is omnipotent, he can just will away all of his enemy instead of fucking summoning other Demonbanes to fight with him. And unless there's something unbelievably stupid I don't know about, the strongest in Demonbane-verse should be Azathoth since everything in the verse is simply a dream of his.
And DOUBLE FUCK GODDAMNIT, there is no near, possibly, whatever- omnipotent. That's like saying 1 trillion is near-infinite. No, nothing is near-infinite. It's either omnipotent or not. Use powerful, almighty, or something less stupid sounding than possibly omnipotent.
>>123227285
Stay mad, faggot.
>>123227337
Nice counter-argument, filthy uncultured plebian.
>>123212524
Shining Trapezohedron Ein Sof Aur eliminated Nyarlethotep from existence at every point in time throughout the entire multiverse. There's a reason he should be the highest.
>>123228070
Nyarlethotep is still kicking though so that didn't work very well
>>123223837
Why are people this stupid?
>>123226959
Being in a higher dimension still quantifies as being in universe tier I am pretty sure. Being in a higher dimension that is noted to be out of multiple universes is different.
>>123226959
>>123229362
Also megaverse tier is chosen as the final tier to represent powers that are told to encompass all universes/realities. Because the chart ranks characters off individual abilities and range there can be multiple character at the top(omnipotent in there story), and the idea of any form of influence of the "author" is just a higher dimension and not our current one unless you're completely mental and think about killing someone and posting evidence that a character did it.
There could also maybe be deviations in each tier but it would have to be within ranks to avoid confusion.
