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Isn't Rin the best Type-Moon girl? Why would anyone dislike
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Isn't Rin the best Type-Moon girl?

Why would anyone dislike her?

Are you literal gays or something?
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>>122997616

This makes a bone(er) of my sword in ten seconds flat...
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>>122997616
She overcharged for pleasuring me.
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>anything wrong with disliking old men's fucktoy
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Arc is best TM.
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>>122997835
>willingly embarrassing yourself with forcing a shitty meme from a doujin
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>>122997616
OPs pic always struck me as kinda odd. I can't really come up with a scenario where Rin would end up in such a state of undress outdoors. Unless its her backyard and she's doing sexy playtime with Shirou or something...
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>>122997860
I appreciate vampire saber too but let's jump with the conclusions here.
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>>122997616
Rin a best.
>>122997981
It's Magic (tm)
Also from DEEN's calender I think
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>>122997869
>filename
Yeah, you can almost see her hymen from that angle.
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Ayanami Rei > Saber > Rin
Type-Moon girls are shit tier.
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>>122997616
Cause weebs like blank slates and Rin is demanding.
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>>122998205
Your pepe will feel funny when you will realize that her dress is also transparent.
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>>122998245
>Update
Rin is literally the weebs fapbait the character though.
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Rin is a textbook Mary Sue. She gets perfect grades and is an expert mage without even trying. She's also beautiful, popular and all the guys want to bang her. Flaws? What flaws
'
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>>122997616
Because she pleases old men for money. Rin's a ho! But damned if I would hand her a hundred bucks for a quick fuck.
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>>122998307
Drug usage is a flaw in certain circles.
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>>122998273
Your peepee will have a burning sensation when you piss if you fuck Rin.
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>>122998307
It's extremly hard to stand out as Mary Sue when Saibah exists.
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>>122998307
>without even trying
What?
You are fucking stupid.
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>>122998138
Is that Akiha? WHY
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>>122998307
She's good, but other mages are better (eg Zelretch, Aozaki sisters). Her stubborn streak and morality also hinder her more than aid her given her status as a mage which favors pragmatism above all else (though that does make them more predictable and thus could be a weakness, Kerry knew how to play em' like grand pianos because of that). And lets not forget the issues that having daddy die at a young age only to be raised by Kotomine of all people will ensure happens...

She isn't a Mary Sue, that's more Gil's deal. Plus I'm pretty sure she helped solidify the Iconic twin-tails and thigh-high socks for Tsundere girls design if it wasn't thoroughly established already. I like that look on women, it's hot.
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>>122998565
Because someone wanted to draw this.
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What are the odds Heaven Feel movie(s) will have a better director than the UBW TV series?
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>>122998598
Rin is better magus than Aoko though
Also her potential is insane.
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>>122998598
>top 100 magus in association history
Aoko and Touko ain't shit compared to glorious Rin
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>>122998708
That's potential though.
She's not at that point during F/SN
But I agree
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>>122998307
It is pretty bad when a character's "Flaws" only serve to make them look more cute or endearing to the audience, or aren't actually their fault at all.

"Sometimes at the worst possible moment the world will play a trick on me and something unlucky will happen through no fault of my own, tee hee".

It would be something if she was haughty which caused her to fuck up at a critical point due to arrogance, but it's treated more like "No, our blood line is just unlucky at the worst moment on occasions because we're Tohsakas. I'm actually a very careful person, but I'm just sometimes unlucky through no actual fault"

Yeah that's not a flaw anymore
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>>122998307
>Flaws? What flaws
- Always fucks up important things at the last minute
- Bad with technology
- Bad with money
- She has a hard time acting as a proper magus because she's not ruthless enough
- Fucked up her relationship with Sakura
- Has almost no friends
- Tends to oversleep
- Usually her plans backfire due to unforseen events
- Somewhat naive, easily manipulated (see Kirei and Archer).
- Her perfect student façade is full of openings
- Doesn't win any major fights
- Loses a bunch of them
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>>122998813
>- Bad with money
wrong
>- She has a hard time acting as a proper magus because she's not ruthless enough
I don't count that as a flaw
>- Has almost no friends
Debatable
>- Tends to oversleep
oh come on now
>- Somewhat naive, easily manipulated (see Kirei and Archer).
Not realy
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>>122998909
It's true that she has no friends. School idol isn't the REAL her so maki-chan etc. aren't her REAL friends.
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>>122998909
Counterpoint: you're wrong and stupid.
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>>122998813
>- Always fucks up important things at the last minute
See the post above yours
>- Bad with technology
Not a flaw
>- Bad with money
Not actually bad with money at all, Kotomine just lost all her money. She's actually very good with money.
>- She has a hard time acting as a proper magus because she's not ruthless enough
Not a flaw, that's a good thing if anything
>- Fucked up her relationship with Sakura
Didn't fuck it up at all, they're just awkward because one kid was given away and it's like "Am I supposed to still talk to her? Is she the competition now?"
>- Has almost no friends
She has friends, good friends, Ayako, but this still isn't so much a flaw. If anything she has a harder time getting along with those magus types in London rather than humans.
>- Tends to oversleep
? Is that bad?
>- Usually her plans backfire due to unforseen events
That's just the first point again
>- Somewhat naive, easily manipulated (see Kirei and Archer).
I'd say she sort of suspected Kirei was questionable for ages
>- Her perfect student façade is full of openings
?
>- Doesn't win any major fights
Well she's not the MC after all, servant fights are kind of beyond any normal human.
>- Loses a bunch of them
Same point

I mean none of these things are so much flaws

A flaw would be like Gilgamesh's arrogance.
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>>122998959
Gilgamesh's arrogance triggers my moe though. Ergo it is not a real flaw as it makes him more endearing.
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>>122998948
I'd realy count Ayako and Track-team trio
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who?
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>>122998909
>Bad with money
>wrong
Right as fuck.
>She has a hard time acting as a proper magus because she's not ruthless enough
>I don't count that as a flaw
Magi do count it as a flaw, and it has played against her in the VN several times.
>Has almost no friends
>Debatable
Ayako was her only friend before she met Shirou and co.
>Tends to oversleep
>oh come on now
She's such a mess after she wakes up, Shirou thinks he's seing a ghost and his image of a perfect Tohsaka crumbles apart instantly. It's small, but it's a flaw.
>Somewhat naive, easily manipulated (see Kirei and Archer).
>Not realy
Yeah, really. Kirei fucked her up real bad at the end of Fate, and Archer orchestrated his whole plan before her very nose.
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Too busy loving a cucked king.
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>"A look back at the story from Archer's perspective"
>"One other Holy Grail War"
>Summer 2015 Exhibition

Wonder if anything interesting will come of this.
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>>122998307
>Twintails
Garbage.
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>>122998244
What the fuck did you just say about Ryougi, you asshole?
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>>122999138
>Right as fuck.
It realy isn't
>Ayako was her only friend before she met Shirou and co.
Track Team Trio
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>>122999226
>Track Team Trio
>Implying Rin gives a shit about her fan club.
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>>122998598
>Aozaki sisters
Not sisters, but a single sister Touko.

Aoko is a mary sue bitch who can only spam beams, she's talentless as a fucking Shinji.
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>>122997616
She is the kind of character that appeals to everybody, she has no traits that are total turndowns for most people, but that also means she's bland as fuck.
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>>122999430
>Rin
>bland

0/10.

You can call Saber bland, not Rin.
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>>122999430
This is all wrong. It's like you're talking about Saber.
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>>122997914
Not as shitty as that drawing.
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>>122999430
You talking about Saber? Because that's not Rin you're describing.
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>tfw when you stolen your nee-sans first time with over 9000 wormz.
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>>122999481
>>122999530
>>122999565
>defensive Rinfags immediately attack another waifu
you are the cancer of the type-moon fandom
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>>122999675
Joke's on you, I'm a Saberfag.
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>>122999715
>cuck
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>>122999675
How is any of that attacking Saber? the description just matched her way better than Rin. And it wasn't an offensive description so there's no reason to be that mad, Anon-chan.
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>>122999675
Fuck off already, moron.
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>>122999581
That is such a shitty loop
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>>122999778
Sure, they're deflecting attention to someone else to avoid having people discuss the inadequacies of the object of obsession.

>bland as fuck
is pretty offensive
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>>122998565
Because they look good together in nice dresses.
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>>122999987
>they're deflecting attention to someone else to avoid having people discuss the inadequacies of the object of obsession.
As you're doing now to avoid discussing Saber's blandness.

>bland as fuck
>is pretty offensive
It's not offensive, it's just the truth. Learn to love you're waifu's flaws as much as her virtues, faggot.
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The world I want to aim for is one where everyone wants at least understands each character, and whether they agree with them or not there is enough civility and understanding for each one that we can be pretty chill with each other. Rather than just "She's just a bitch, see this part from the story out of context, just a bitch fucking shit".

Yeah having fun with it and messing around with each one is still good, it's just not good when it takes dominance and new people latch on without understanding it's riffing, and then with time it's nothing but just hate for each character as we all divide into camps and shit on the others. Waifu wars are the greatest enemy of understanding, they encourage basically the opposite path to take everything out of context and call each other a bitch until it catches on enough and sticks.

Fucking around is great, but a world where we can be cool about it and appreciate each character is better.
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>>122999481
>>122999530
>>122999565
Saber is a hit and miss type of character, she doesn't fit that description at all. People either hate her or absolutely love her. Why do you think there are more people who hate Saber than those who hate Rin? It just so happen that I like Rin over Saber as well, but pretending she's amazing is dumb. She's just likeable.

>>123000204
Fuck off with this copypasta already, you're on /a/
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>>123000156
>As you're doing now to avoid discussing Saber's blandness.
I've discussed this in the other thread.

We can have a real conversation surrounding Rin being bland here. Anon made a really good argument for it yet the only contrary opinion that he got was nuh-uh someone else is bland so Rin can't be bland. That's not a real supporting argument.

'as fuck' would imply that you're trying to sling an insult around to me.
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>>123000322
>People either hate her or absolutely love her.
Blame the clones
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>>123000338
>Anon made a really good argument for it
Except the argument fits Saber instead of Rin.
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>>122997869
Tohsaka Rin fucks old men for jewel-money.
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>>123000529
>She is the kind of character that appeals to everybody, she has no traits that are total turndowns for most people
That's Rin not Saber.
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>>123000589
Not that's kinda a perfect description of Saber.
But having saberclone fucking everywhere pisses people off.
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>>123000651
I agree - I don't like saberclones either. But I would totally want more Arturia. There is a difference, you know.
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>>123000689
Seeing Saber in general pisses me off now.
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>>123000718
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>>123000589
>>She is the kind of character that appeals to everybody, she has no traits that are total turndowns for most people.
>That's Rin not Saber.
That's Saber, just look at the popularity polls, Numbers don't lie.
Saber is well loved all around by a great majority of the Fatefags, but there's no denying she's a simple Mary Sue-esque character, hence the lack of traits that are total turndowns for most people.
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Blah blah, Rin this Sakuraber that.

Lets talk about some Prism
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Archer LN never.
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>>123000718
If you stare into the sun too long
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>>123000718
Sorry. Kinda weird though, how Takeuchi sort of did this - I thought he liked Saber, so why would he purposefully make people hate her?
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>>123000780
You get more of his history from the Extra series than you do the original story at this point.
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>>123000772
>but there's no denying she's a simple Mary Sue-esque character, hence the lack of traits that are total turndowns for most people.
And yet people were talking about how bland and controversial she is like 20 posts ago. Maybe we should just stop calling characters mary sues.
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>>123000772
You can't ignore the fact that Rin sits nice and pretty at the #2 spot uncontested for all these years. She is also massively loved by Japan.

Saber's stubbornness is often cited as a trait that people dislike her for.
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>>123000775
Prisma is shit.
>>123000834
You are underestimating how much info is dropped in UBW.
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>>123000772
You could say pretty much the exact same thing about Rin, she's just a couple spots downward on the polls.
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>>123000557
Where this rin meme about fucking old man for money came from?
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>>123000781
>If you stare into the sun too long
A midget genderbent King Arthur comes down?
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>>123000718
Only an insane person would like that fucking wet blanket. Plenty of blonde anime girls are full of personality and are written better.
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>>123000873
And Shiki, who's beaten Saber on several occasions.
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>>123000864
You're underestimating how much info on Archer was dropped in Extra+CCC

Feels like more than F/SN at this point
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>>123000875
New here, anon-chan?
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>>123000927
Well I have no clue about CCC and I doubt you do.
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>>123000909
You mean one. On a mobile site. With a few thousand total votes. Compared to the main website polls that net in nearly 30k unique votes.
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>>123000909
>>123000980
Let's not do this.
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>>123000875
Doujins
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>>123000881
I think Saber's plenty interesting, and her main appeal isn't blonde hair either.
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>>123001001
We must do this.
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>>123001045
No.
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>>123001008
It came from her sucking black dicks and being cucked.
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>>123000927
>>123000834
>You get more of his history from the Extra series than you do the original story at this point.
The same that could be Said about Saber, but we got a whole book of Saber wank.
>You're underestimating how much info on Archer was dropped in Extra+CCC
It's more like a half assed explanation then a full depth explanation of Archer's tale.
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>>122997616
>Isn't Rin the best Type-Moon girl?
Nowhere close.
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>>123001062
This is tradition. What you preach is blasphemy. As it was in ancient image board posts it shall be for eternity.
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>>123001078
>The same that could be Said about Saber
What? No?
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>>123000980
There were 3 rounds of voting for the 10th anniversary, and Shiki actually managed to net 2 out of 3, but Saber's win in 1 slightly overpowered her over Shiki.
>http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Popularity_polls
Yeah, yeah >TM Wiki, but polls aren't something they can really be biased on.

>>123001062
We're doing this.
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>>123000967
I know of a few conversations in CCC involving his past. Read through the translations and scripts of the game along the way as much as I could. Like how he was a magic/survivalist teacher in the Middle East briefly

>"What’s the matter? If you rest for too long, it’ll only halt you."

>—-I squint my eyes at the burning sunshine.
> The blue sky sinks into my chest.
> Something I can’t put into words makes me recall this feeling.

>“Ahh, sorry. I’m your new combat instructor starting today.”

>“Kishinami Hakuno, that’s you, right? I got appointed to look after you. I’m kind of reluctant, but please be understanding.
>You seem to be some kind of celebrity around here after all. ‘Make them into a proper mage’ was the old man’s order.
>That’s why I’ll give you private lessons for the next 6 months. I’ll do my work for a price. The rest is up to your effort and guts.
>… …saying that, you’re pretty dehydrated, aren’t you.
>Can you stand? If you can’t do it on your own, I’ll lend you a hand.”

>Still without memories, a blunt hand is held out to me.
>Still without memories, the nostalgia that stings my heart blurs my vision.
>—-During my long slumber.
>I remember the dream of someone who held the same soul and name as me.

>“… … . Sorry, have we ever met before?”

Archer's ending in CCC, cryo-sleep Hakuno wakes up and meets a mysterious guy who teaches him how to survive for about six months before they have to part again. This man looks rather familiar perhaps.

>>123001078
>It's more like a half assed explanation then a full depth explanation of Archer's tale.

Kinda, yeah. It's just Archer saying things that happened mostly.
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>>123000951
No, just dont know the source
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>>123001004
Pls sauce
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>>123001155
>There were 3 rounds of voting for the 10th anniversary
U WOT M9

You voted for three characters. Your #1 favorite, #2 favorite and #3 favorite. You could vote for Ryougi and Saber depending on which was #1 #2 or #3 to you. #1 got 3 points #2 got 2 points and #3 1 point.
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>>123001261
Find it yourself, it is one of the more popular TM doujins.
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>>122998138
Last night I had a dream where I fucked Rin and Akiha.

I never felt an orgasm as awesome as that, but I had to wash my sheets and pajamas in the morning.
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>>122999180
OF COURSE!
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>>123001294
Oh woops, never mind then. I guess I assumed wrong.
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>>123000775
More raws please.
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>>122999180
>One other Holy Grail War
Oh fuck, it's happening.
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>>123000780
They're selling tickets to some kind of Archer-centric event on July 25th, after UBW is done. "Another Holy Grail War from Archer's perspective."

We'll see if that entails anything new or if it's some kind of glorified recap.
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>>123001379
It's okay. Ryougi is a real contender for #1 Type-Moon character popularity, but you are left to wonder how many love both Ryougi and Saber. I don't think everyone is autistic about waifu wars as /a/ to the point of shitting on their waifu's peers.
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>>123001503
We will see what Archer did around town when Rin left him at home.
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>>123001206
Another conversation in CCC that talks a bit of Archer's past

>Answer: Follow up with, “It looks really good on you.”
>Archer: O-oh. It looks good…? Really?
>W-well, you saying that makes me feel better about it…
>…It seems I’ll have to reconsider this outfit. Yeah… Now that I think about it, it’s not so bad. >The truth is, I always wanted to wear this kind clothing.
>This is from when I was alive, but a female acquaintance of mine told me, “Rock style doesn’t suit you, so knock it off, seriously.”
>Ever since then, I’ve avoided these kinds of clothes. But, I see, I look good in it… Mm, I kind of want to show off even more skin now…

Archer wanted to be hardcore in life, but his friends were all "No, go take that off, it looks gay".

Hakuno makes the mistake of encouraging him.
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>>123001540
She won't hold her position until the next poll.
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ITT: idiots forgetting how TM popularity polls work.
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>>123001548
I wouldn't count that as info on his past as much as info on his horrible fashion sense
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>>123001547
>it's actually an advertisement of a type-moonxikea partnership
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>>123001548
Don't keep encouraging this guy, he'll just keep going further with it.
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>>123000927
He loves guns and cooking, his dream is to have his own brand of cookware, and he slept with a lot of women but then gets depressed when he realizes they all used him/tried to kill him and he didn't have a warm relationship with any of them even once.
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>>123001540
Ryougi won't keep the no.1 spot next, TM popularity polls depends on whichever work is getting the spotlight. Currently it's F/SN with UBW so either Archer or Saber will be first.
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>>123001618
>tfw no loli Rin trying to seduce you
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>>123001659
That's directly contradictionary to F/SN.
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>>123001687
If you mean the part about the women, it's his third SG in CCC where he talks about it. Hakuno mistakenly thinks Archer wants to have sex with her when he asks her if he can use the shower, that's how it comes up.
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>>123001676
I guess you could say Mahoyo was stillborn.
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