There is only ONE anime that fits this criteria.
Protip: It's not Evangelion
Dragon Ball
>>122875589
Naruto
>>122875589
>thinly veiled rec thread
thinly veiled rec thread.
Also it's LoGH.
Haruhi
>>122875589
Madoka
Haiyore! Nyaruko-San
>>122875727
>LOGH
>Game-changer
>influences other great works
>respected by experts
Nope
K-ON!
>>122875589
Haibane Renmei and Texhnolyze. In fact there's a shitload who do this.
Madoka
Actually Boku no Pico
>>122875589
Bakamonogatari. Who ever thought to give harem character tropes actual personality development is a genius.
Haruhi
How has no one posted Eva yet
>>122875865
Well the guy who made that show certainly didn't.
>>122875589
What is "challenging yet rewarding" supposed to mean in terms of an anime?
>>122875914
Boku no pico
>>122875789
>LoGH
>not a game changer
>no influence in other great works
>not respected by experts
okay
Evangelion
it's Tetsuwan Atomu
Cowboy Bebop is the obvious answer
Ghost in the Shell: Solid State Society is the right answer.
>>122875589
>respected by experts
>experts
>anime
>experts
WEEUUU WEEEUUUU WEEEEEUUUU RETARD POLICE NEEDED, OP'S REACHED CRITICAL MASS
Gundam 0079
>Addresses permanent & universal human concerns
War
>Game-changer
Marked the shift from super robot to real robot
>Influences other great works
Pretty much every great mecha anime after it was inspired by it, including Evangelion.
>Respected by experts
No question
>Challenging yet rewarding
Certainly
>>122875899
>Evafags are this retarded
>>122875912
Well they actually had character development. Because you know when a character faces something that they've never experienced and learned how to overcome said experience.
At least that's what my High school teacher thought me.
Madoka
>>122875963
What did Bebop influence? Who respects it other than casuals?
>>122875990
2obvious 2be the answer
Baka thread
kemonozume
>>122875990
>giant robot fights
>challenging
>>122876019
Personality development implies personality implies authenticity which that shit wholly lacks
>>122875589
Haruhi is first to come in mind
Eva fits everything but challenging yet rewarding, but it's not like any of this means shit. Just fucking enjoy anime and stop looking for "the best."
>>122876068
Can't have influenced anything if no one's seen it
Honey and Clover
Completely changed/set the tone for josei and romance/drama series for the time, has continued to influence them into today. Critically acclaimed and won many awards.
>>122875960
This is definitely it you guys serious it can't be anything else
>>122875589
This?
>>122875589
If your answer isn't Madoka you don't know SHIT about anime
>>122876174
It's supposed to influence other GREAT works.
Fist lf the north star
>Addresses permanent & universal human concerns
Fighting
>Game-changer
see shounen after it
>Influences other great works
Jojo
>Respected by experts
Anime experts are a joke but sure
>Challenging yet rewarding
If you are illiterate reading can be challenging
>>122876273
Every KyoAni anime since Haruhi has been great except Nichijou.
>>122876037
>reading the obvious answer
>not reading the correct answer
If your answer isn't Lucky☆Star you don't know SHIT about anime
>>122875589
Haruhi fits this criteria the best
>>122875589
I can confirm this answer >>122875840 to be true.
As an expert on the subject, I find Boku no Pico to address the forever permanent and universal human concern of "How much dick is too much dick"
Boku no Pico has been widely recommended no matter the recommendation thread (thinly veiled or not) and continues to be a game changer to this day.
Boku no Pico has been a great influence on a great number of works of not just it's kind but in art in general. Truly it's influence cannot be understated.
As I am an expert, myself and people like myself find it to be a masterpiece worthy of respect and admiration, not just for it's influence and addressing of topics but for the challenge it provides by hiding your copy of Boku no Pico from both the authorities and any unsuspecting family members who may stumble upon the masterpiece.
So in closing, the actual answer you are looking for OP is indeed Boku no Pico and I highly recommend you check it out.
>>122876335
uh you mean they've been shit
>>122876346
>How much dick is too much dick
There is no such thing
>>122876263
>>122875756
>>122875830
>>122876024
pls dont' samefag
>>122876329
This might be it, wasn't it the first to introduce a nakama-like concept too? Whatever it was called, I forgot (it's in chinese).
astroboy?
Penguindrum
Only one answer.
Jojo's bizarre adventure
Adresses the ideas of family values and ancestry/heritage
Caused the shift from generic energy attacks in shounen to unique abilities
Touhou
King crimson was challenging
>>122876213
This is actually a pretty good answer
>>122876273
>It's supposed to influence other GREAT works
>implying Angel Beats and others weren't GREAT works
anon pls
>>122876419
Yeah seriously like I said, this can be the only answer
>>122876393
That is the universal concern. If there is no upper limit, do we really have enough dick in our works?
Are we really pushing the boundaries as far as we could be?
>>122876346
Obligatory.
>>122875990
No one cares about mecha
>>122876468
>implying Angel Beats and others are great works
It just paved the way for shit LN adaptations.
>>122875589
It actually is evangelion
>>122876419
Yeap. That's the easiest answer to the above criteria.
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>>122876468
>Angel Beats
>Great works
Pick one.
>>122875671
Actually this.
But OP is wrong, as there are plenty of anime that meet this criteria.
>>122876473
There is a limit.
We just haven't reached it yet.
>>122876553
>Angel Beats = Great work
Chosen faggot
>>122876527
Exactly true, and we received the apotheosis of shit adaptations of shit LNs in bakamonofaggotry which killed anime
Akira
>Respected by experts
Kanye West likes it.
>Addresses permanent & universal human concerns
Porcupine's Dilemma
>Game-changer
Revolutionized anime as an artform
>Influences other great works
20 years later and people STILL try to imitate it.
>Respected by experts
Every animator or critic in Japan recognizes the impact of Eva.
>Challenging yet rewarding
Watch End of Evangelion and tell me it isn't.
>>122876578
>>122875671
There's nothing remotely challenging about Dragon Ball in any way, shape or form.
>>122876644
Eva is shit and your gay
>>122876583
So then the concerns brought up by Boku no Pico has just now been validated. "How much dick is too much dick?"
Is there a quantifiable metric in which we can figure out the maximum dick allowable at any given time?
>>122876447
More like part 5 was challenging because ot was so boring and the characters were uninteresting.
>>122876273
But anon, Hyouka and Chuunibyou are pretty great works
>>122876644
>feeling challenged or rewarded by Evangelion
Go read a book, faggot.
>>122876523
No one cares about sol
No one cares about battle shounen
No one cares about mahou shoujo
No one cares about 2edgy4me's
No one cares about ecchi crap
No one cares about harems
No one cares aboutyou______
>>122875589
Shigatsu (best anime ever and you can check on mal how it grows) of couse
>>122876789
If the fags on this board read and understood actual literature then they would not be watching like 10+ anime every season
>>122876764
And dont forget infinite stratos
>>122876828
>tfw the plebs have never seen nodame or any other romance/drama anime
>>122875671
It only has 2, 3 and 4.
>>122875980
>WEEUUU WEEEUUUU WEEEEEUUUU
Not as retarded as you.
>>122875589
Sword Art Online.
>>122876860
live action nodame is better
>>122875589
>respected by experts
>experts
Does the collective of /a/ count? Are Ping Pong and KLK now classics?
Basically anything fucking old that's still recognizable in reference.
>>122876934
Naruto, Kill la Kill, One Piece, Attack on Titan, Fairy Tail
>>122876976
This guy gets it.
>>122875589
What is Mobile Suit Gundam?
1) Check
2) Check
3) Check
4) Check
5) Check
35 years later, there are still Gundam series being made.
>>122876832
Fictional literature is poor entertainment though, why would I bother. For actual interesting and engaging things there's real stuff I could read about.
>>122876976
Anon, your mum's a classic.
>>122876989
>putting KlK in the same group of shounen shit
>>122876037
>What did Bebop influence?
Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop: The Movie, Darker than Black
>Who respects it other than casuals?
Shinichiro Watanabe, me, moot (honorary non-casual), the guy who made Darker than Black.
>>122877036
>Fictional literature is poor entertainment though
You are a child.
>>122877074
KLK is shounen shit.
>>122877087
>moot
Who?
>>122877108
Yes, and you're not a 7 year old loli but an overgrown bore.
>>122877087
moot pls, you're still a casual
>>122877036
The fictional mode has access to a variety of aesthetic experiences that no other does
>>122875589
>4. Respected by experts
This rules out anything on /a/ simply because /a/ refuses to accept the opinion of any so-called expert. By this definition there can be no classics, eg: this is why we can't have nice things
>>122876523
We actually have an entire board dedicated to mecha, which always makes me laugh.
>>122876818
I care about me
>>122877152
You realize that anime is fiction, too, right?
>>122877177
I'm the anime expert
Fullmetal Alchemist
>>122877199
Yes, and only a handful of them, like 20-30 max, are any good.
>>122876818
Do people care about all the shows marketed to NEETs about how pathetic NEETs are?
>>122877205
>>122877205
bullshit
>>122877152
fake and gay
>>122877241
How can you even judge that? And what are your favorite books that you think do things anime can't?
>>122875589
Yamato
>>122877265
My taste is so good I watched Kill Me Baby 3 times.
>>122877152
>words on paper
>aesthetic experience
if you're talking about your imagination you can stimulate that in a million less boring ways.
>>122877241
Please I've seen 12 anime already and they were all good except for Eva.
>>122877310
If you can't even work out in your head something that a book may be able to do that anything else couldn't, then I don't know if I can help you
>>122877343
have you ever read a book while on lsd? you can feel and experience every word without your eyes.
>>122877393
If you're taking LSD books are the least interesting thing you could work with,
>>122876869
You're wrong. It addresses spirituality and daoist purity from the very start. That's what nimbus represents.
Also Challenging yet rewarding is not a benchmark of a classic because it's on OP image. That's retarded. There's nothing challenging about tons of classic literature. Art isn't always designed to be an intellectual study. Dragon Ball is spiritual.
http://strawpoll.me/3931036
>>122877503
Dragon BALLS is gay and youre a faga
>>122877534
Reply if you're another type of shit faggot and I'll create another poll.
the concept of being "challenged" or "rewarded" by fiction is so navel gazing and pretentious that i have a hard time realizing people actually believe in these things
>>122877534
Based proxyfag says Madoka, and he is always right. /thread.
>>122875589
Cardcaptor Sakura.
>>122877710
Unless it was intentionally ambiguous, a good piece of art should never leave you wondering what its message was or what it was trying to say.
>>122877385
Television does something books don't, too - it shows us animated pictures. It's a feature of the medium. It doesn't make the one superior to the other. Thematically, the medium's impact is much more subtle and doesn't decide the worth of a work.
>>122877663
I think you need an option for ABe and one for Yuasa.
>>122877710
>the concept of being "challenged" or "rewarded" by fiction is so navel gazing and pretentious that i have a hard time realizing people actually believe in these things
Well you seem pretty challenged even without fiction
>>122876832
>>122876789
Do you have any idea how shit most literature is?
Do you have even the SLIGHTEST clue how many books have been written, and that 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% are just useless droll shit with no cultural or artistic value?
Literature is like digging through a UNIVERSE of shit and trying to find one single picomote of dust.
ITT Overrated shit
>>122875589
Akira?
>>122875589
As much as I don't want to say this, as someone who has spent too much time studying "classics" and also spent time discussing subjects very similar to this with "experts", I can safely say that the "definition", if you can call it that, is not only tinted by nostalgia but outdated as fuck.
But that shouldn't be surprising. With the coming of the internet and the globalization of the world, there is too much stuff that is simply outdated.
>>122875589
YuGiOh! Obviously.
