Chaos Dragon new promotion video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6rsPQqIcQGs
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Chaos Dragon is based on a RPF (role playing fiction) Red Dragon, created through TRPG (table-talk role-playing game) sessions by five character creators: Gen Urobuchi (Puella Magi Madoka Magica), Kinoko Nasu (Fate/stay night), Izuki Kougyoku (Garden Lost), Doriru Shima, and Ryogo Narita (Durarara!!).
Airing : Summer 2015
Director : Matsune Masato
Studio : SILVERLINK./CONNECT
Series Composition : Kodachi Ukyou
Screenplay : Aikawa Shou
Music : Hitoshi Sakimoto
http://chaosdragon.red/
http://chaosdragon.red/character.php
All those guys involved with the original material and they couldn't come up with a better character designer?
>>122737048
The original designs were better.
Also, Urobuchi's character was a man.
This looks shitty as hell. Why?
The original stuff looked nice. Even the faces on the promo pic look retarded here.
Well, I don't particularly care. If you're not satisfied why don't you make your own anime then ?
I know /a/ always bitching at something but in the end they still watching it.
>>122737712
Meryll is probably the one that got less redesigned.
>>122737629
I wouldn't care either if it was shit from the beginning, but it actually looked good before.
>>122737797
I think Eiha is actually an improvement. Swallow looks worse, but if his hands turn black when he uses something I think I can live with it.
Where is Urobuchi's character and the brown grill?
>>122737919
Lou is now a girl. Eiha is there, she was never that brown outside that specific picture.
>>122737755
Is she "ara ara~" christmas cake ?
I'd buy figure of her if she got one.
>>122737961
Meryll is a badmouthed maid that acts as Swallow's weapon caddie.
Can't be helped.
This is the era of girl characters.
>>122738154
It would be funny when this happens to her.
>>122737961
Fuck, they ruined Big Daddy.
>>122738154
Nah, I think it's because Urobuchi has been creating too many homo shippings until now. Maybe he wants a slightly change of pace.
>>122738347
He is mostly the same.
>>122738396
What the fuck the original design when it's first announced looks far cooler than this.
>>122738436
Because he had the drill and the machinegun added. He can add those when he wants.
>>122738476
Now that looks fine.
>>122738491
They turned Lancelot into a smiling girl?
>>122738491
There are also those newer ones.
>>122738491
I'm okay with the first and second one. The too detailed armor can be pain in the ass to draw.
>>122738548
He also knew how to smile.
>>122736510
>Music : Hitoshi Sakimoto
Wha...? He's going to do anime music?
>>122738645
He did the music for the role-playing session, so it was natural.
>>122738645
Not the first time
>>122738491
>>122738719
>implying Urobuchi is the character designer
>>122738749
More implying he's the character, really.
>>122738719
>>122738749
I think her design is more based in the second Lou outfit.
Urobuchi'll kill all the other main characters.
The end.
>>122738780
So which one is Nasu ?
>>122738850
Dank urobuchi meme right here.
>>122738850He (now she) actually loses.
>>122738887
The guy with a lot of swords.
>>122738887
>>122738491
She looked nicer in the original. The new one looks like an annoying tsundere but maybe it's just the face of character promo pic.
>>122738934
Why are they suddenly talking about Mahoyo? Translation never.
>>122738934
Those swords are too retarded. Is he going to shoot it like an arrow ?
>>122738998
Ibuki art changed a lot when his character developed.
>>122739059
Because Meryll looks a bit like Alice and Swallow's curse is a giant nod to Mahoyo.
>>122739085
He needs all of those swords because he got a curse that breaks everything after one use.
Looks like that even a table RPG campaign with anime models slapped on top of it manages to outclass Devil's Legacy in the credibility department.
>>122738998
Ibuki ain't a she.
>>122736510
I wonder why they decided to change the countries flags? It is probably the most random change.
>>122736961
Where the fuck is the curse?
>>122736510
It sounds like shit already from the description and preview.
>>122737629
>If you're not satisfied why don't you make your own anime then ?
Go back to reddit you faggot.
>>122739330
It is still there, it is mentioned in his entry. Maybe they will have it manifesting once he actually uses something and not all the time. There is a black spot in the left arm, actually.
>>122738719
So what happened to his sword waifu?
>>122739370
What description?
>>122739405
It seems that now is a husbando.
>>122739370
If it is like the original, it would be fun and with a lot of lore.
>>122739484
Just the concept sees amazing. Some fantasy clusterfuck between some of the biggest and most disparate writers in the industry vying for creative control over a flow-of-consciousness narrative.
>>122739484
If nothing else, I look forward to Urobuchi's character beheading the Saber clone GMPC/GM's waifu.
>>122739484
Well it might be fun I guess. But it sounds like something will go horribly wrong.
>Urobuchi says having big breasts is enough reason to kill a character.
>His character gets turned into a grill with big boobs.
They're dropping tweests before the show even begins. Holy shit.
>>122739604
I didn't know that. Truly that man and I could never get along.
>>122739597
The actual play was pretty solid and with good role-playing. Now, we have to see what they change in this adaptation.
>>122739604
Truly a man after my own heart.
Every tabletop RPG needs that one edgelord trying to constantly turn the story into a tragedy. Makes things interesting.
>>122739593
We must give a nickname to this new saber clone
how about 'Sword Saber'
I wonder if Lou is still going to be a martial artist here.
>>122739800
He is not talking about Swallow, he is talking about Urlica.
>>122737230
>Urobuchi's character was a man.
>was
So they improved it?
Anyway I still don't understand what this whole project is. What game were they all playing and how in the fuck can they turn it into anime? And why THEM?
>>122739846
How about Mami Saber.
>>122739819
I think his character description is still largely the same. They turned him into a girl to surprise people who read the original TRPG session.
>>122738375
Or maybe since 2 serious-looking adult men with 2 lolis in the cover doesn't mix too well.
>>122739819
>A Second Strike is Needless
>>122739800
>>122739964
Or Chuuni Saber?
>>122738491
1, WHY, 1st one looks much better
2.Ok
3, WTF
4.Ok
5.Ok
Most are properly adaptded but those who change, change way too much
>>122739899
It was a TRPG session tailored by one of the Lodoss guys for them.
>>122740005
Ibuki is a he.
>>122741010
>shota
Not in this loli age.
Also what happened to that girls tail?
>>122741144
Ibuki got a twin sister who is really a loli.
And the vine connecting Eiha to Val is mentioned in her introduction.
>>122741144
>Not in this loli age.
Search your penis, you know it is true.
I don't get it. I saw new illustrations for the cast several weeks ago and Lou was a man. Is it getting more than just anime adaptation?
>>122737761
>>122739971
I suppose that everything that is not the "Male" in the character sheet still applies.
>>122741398
A new book edition.
>>122741285
I try not to get my hopes up. They are rare nowadays especially good ones, that are a main character.
According to Sanda's twitter, they changed some stuff with the players approval, that is why Lou is now a woman.
Are the game book(s) and blank character sheets for this available somewhere?
>>122738491
The gender change sucks but if they feel they need it for the sales oh well.
>>122741902
They never released the rules, they released the character sheets and a world guide.
>>122741931
The gender change itself isn't a problem, but the blatant downgrade to the character design is. It's really the only character where the anime design is just so blatantly inferior to the original.
>>122736796
Why doesn't he wear proper pants? Someone could easily see his underwear, has he no shame?
>>122742087
Nill Kamui fashion sense.
>>122742017
>>122741931
Since the players created their own characters and had total control over them, I bet that Uro is the one who told them to change Lou to a girl.
>>122740078
Yes, Urobuchi loves his Bajiquan.
>>122742331
I wouldn't be surprised. Almost everything he writes focuses on a relationship between a male and female protagonist and the dynamic between them.
I can't even think of something he's done that wasn't driven by that kind of relationship, so it's no surprise he'd want to insert a female character into the party if he was involved with this.
>>122742442
If that is the case, maybe he wanted to reduce the homolust after Fate/Zero.
Location designs look good.
If the simplified designs mean better animation, I'm sold.
>>122742530
If having a vagina is the only difference with the character /a/ is gonna waifu her hard.
>>122742626
They are going to call her a slut for having a zombie army.
>>122736510
Dragons are CG. I knew it would be the case.
>>122742709
So is her sword now her husbando instead of waifu?
>>122742442Original Lou was yandere for his sword waifu and diligently fed her by killing shit for her. That will not change in the anime, but maybe the sword is a husbando now
>>122742915
>turns the yandere character female for us
BASED.
Urobuchi really is looking out for us.
>>122742866
>>122742915
>黄爛の宗教組織〈八爪会〉に所属する武装僧侶。意志を持ち、斬った者の魂を啜る魔剣〈七殺天凌（チーシャーティェンリー）〉に魅入られており、殿下と呼んで溺愛している。 ありとあらゆる標的を確実に葬り去る凄腕の暗殺者であり、闇の世界でその名を知らぬ者はいない。
>殿下
Yes, it is a sword husbando now. It seems they also changed the design a bit, looking at the OP picture.
>>122736961
Is this the only male main character?
>>122743052
No, Ibuki >>122736796 and Kaguraba >>122737961 are also males. Lou >>122737761 was a male originally, but they changed it.
>>122741902
They made a big deal in the origina about it being a game only for five people.
They are releasing a board game now though.
>>122743032
Glad they left the heart design. Can't wait for the sailor moon related fanart.
>>122741448
She is now Lou Zhenhua.
>>122736510
Is this in the Type Moon universe? I'm really confused
>>122743410
It would be funny if Lou Zhenjie actually still exists and this is his sister or something, who found the Qisha Tianling before him.
>>122743411
They got 5 writers to sit at a board and play a P&P RPG, the session records are now being turned into a anime because why the fuck not.
>>122743411
No, this is its own universe. It is just that it got some nods as Urobuchi and Nasu were involved playing as two of the five main characters.
>>122737712
I like seibah
>>122738491
Why did the genderbend Urobuchi's shitty thief?
>>122743670
Maybe they wanted to get a 3 males and 3 females ratio in the party.
>>122743595
Don't worry, she doesn't like you.
>>122737712
Nasu needs to make more battle maids
>>122737712
They not changing Meryll means that they think she is perfect?
>>122744125
>freckles
Oh yeah, I'm feelin' it.
>>122743768
That's stupid, his character may be edge, but that red cloak was definitely a nice looking cloak and losing it is stupid. Also her design is way too different from the original, not even same hair color
>>122744125
Nasu clearly does.
>Comment from Kinoko Nasu & Shima Drill:
>Nasu: Look at these wonderful maids here......Every single one of them makes me picture being called trash.....
>Shima: It sure is nice being looked at reprovingly with those narrowed eyes...
>Nasu: Which Meryll do you like second-best? It's B for me. (bottom-left)
>Nasu: Indeed, pretty, freckled, and sharp-tongued makes for a nice combination.
>Shima: Not to mention that unassailable skirt!
>Nasu: You know, if Meryll looked at me with that face in the bottom-right, I can confidently say that I'll stick to all my deadlines.
>>122744193
It seems they directly used as a basis his second form, were he had gray hair.
>>122744125
I already like her more than Saber.
>>122744244
Someone needs to find Nasu a Meryll so he's forced to stick to his deadlines.
>>122736510
>Studio : SILVERLINK./CONNECT
So that means 26 episodes? The only time y remember that happening was with Strike the Blood, and that was 26.
>>122744286
Takeuchi already plays that role. At cost of a Saber clone with every new material release.
>>122736919
Best girl. I can already tell.
>>122744421
Probably, I doubt 12/13 episodes are enough to cover everything.
I just got here. Is there anywhere the original game sessions can be read?
>>122744278
That's not a hard feat at all.
>>122744669
In English? There is some stuff translated in BL, but not that much sadly.
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/3472-Red-Dragon
What's your excuse for not turning your D&D session into an anime?
>>122738491
Wow. New ones are complete ass compared to the old ones.
>>122744943
Because these names don't really work in anime
>>122744244
Meryll represents the love Nasu has for Take, that's why Nasu thinks Meryll is the best!
>>122744943
Go bug /tg/ about it.
>About the curse of pulverization (truth):
>The curse that destroys any tool in a single use.
>The more intricate, the more elaborate something is, the more easily it breaks.
>Swallow has borne this curse since birth. Although the curse is known to occasionally manifest in those born to the Cratsvalley, Swallow's curse surpassed all previous incidents in its destructiveness.
>In truth, it is the curse not of pulverization but of "consumption."
>The tools do not break but are "used up."
>Because of this, with one use the tool expends all of its capacity to perform. It breaks afterwards not because it could not stand the power, but rather because it had "fulfilled its purpose."
>The Black Dragon calls this "the embodiment of humanity's nature."
>The consumerist society, the enterprise of humans, who depend on mana and yet use up resources and consume the world: the curse was the crystallization of this concept.
>Dragons are eternal, while humans are cyclical.
Would there be any effect on humanity's way of life from Swallow's rejection of this "curse"? Is the matter Swallow's problem alone? Or, being a concept, does it encapsulate the entire species? This puzzle is what the Black Dragon proclaimed "interesting."
>Dark Communion:
>A skill acquired through his Life Path.
>A Dragon Art unique to Swallow, used to save Meryll's life. Dragonizing himself through the power of the Black Dragon, he binds his life to another's. Also manifests his powers as a Dark Dragon Knight in Meryll.
>Though this seems at first glance to be simply sharing the use of one life, in actuality, Swallow's death would not lead to Meryll's.
>Black Blade:
>A skill acquired through his Life Path. The standard mana attack used by the Dark Dragon Knights.
>An orthodox Dragon Art, but Swallow's curse amplifies this so as to inflict devastating damage. So pretty much a black Excalibur.
This is so Nasu that I love it.
Glad to see more High Fantasy being made after Bahamut.
>>122745402
My neckbeard is a bit angry that they changed things like Swallow sword holder into something more Sci-fi looking, but yeah.
>>122745512
I'm a little mad that they changed the brown loli into a white one.
>>122745586
>>122745512
>these changes
Why the fuck even bother?
I wonder if the secondaries will change a bit too.
>>122745623
Sanda said in twitter they wanted to spin some things a bit. It doesn't seem they changed the core story, just some little bits (and they asked the players before).
If this is a plot by Sanda to make Saber clone survive I will be mad.
What kind of name is Swallow.
>>122746344
>>122746344
The name of trash.
>>122738491
I understand that in the left column are designs not meant to be animated thus excessively detailed, but the downgrade is just too much.
>>122746631
I think the worse one is Lou genderbend. The other ones I can live with.
>>122746843
More girls, the better. I honestly wished they gendbend Nasu.
>>122746929
Thay would ruin the whole maid business, so it was a no no.
>>122746929
>genderbending Nasu blond swordsman
Takeuchi go away.
>>122746843
Maybe Urobuchi have his own Takeuchi, who knows.
>>122745898
>>122747234
>dullahan seiba clone
Would you say that Nasu is a good character creator?
>>122747382
Of course.
>>122747382
He is more of a world builder than a writer, that is for sure. I think that is were he excels more, along with giving a definite thematic to each character.
>>122743121
Does the character bio say ibuki is a male?
I think Sanda explains why they had to turn Lou into a girl and other changes in pic related. Something about Chaos dragon being more like Three kingdoms or some shit. Anyone can translate?
>>122747382
He's George Lucas just not as terrible.
>>122747591
>少年
Yes.
>>122747690
>cute shota and cute loli protector going on adventures
My dick will be diamonds
>>122747624
Basically that he wants the original and the anime to be like the "Records of the Three Kingdoms" and the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".
Same story with some changes here and there.
>>122747973
It was probably done to make the party cast 3/3. Which is fine in this case since we get a yandere out of it
>>122746929
We already have that. It's called saber.
>>122748014
I actually don't mind Lou's genderbent, even if I liked how he was before.
The worse part is that her design is a bit plain, even if with the sword box behind looks better.
>>122747690
Picked back up
>>122748269
It looks plain because we don't have P&P style art of her. This is her simplified design for animation.
>>122748392
Yeah, I would like to see a Shimadoriru rendition of Lou Zhenhua.
He did a quick picture of redesigned Eiha.
>>122747973
So basically it is a “some historians say that the Huanglan assassin was a man, others say it was a woman” kind of thing.
I feel like Nasu is at his best when he ISN'T working on Fate
>>122748495
Why do they give cute girls ears but no tails? Tails are the best part.
>>122748676
She has some weird vine that connects her to a monster.
>>122748269
If I remember correctly, Lou manages to go through the entire campaign without letting the other players see his blade even when fighting, that is until the last battle. Who knows how they're going to deal with that.
>>122748782
Yes, he used martial arts most of the time.
He used the sword when he fought Urlica (and tried to use it against Simeon), but the other players weren't around.
Lou can't be any edgier than mister Teamkill from that one manga dump the other day.
Looks generic as fuck. Also dat shit tier premise, holy shit.
>>122749040
You even know what the premise is?
>>122748782
>>122748965
There's a LN out or something? Links?
>>122749107
JRPG going on a whacky SoL adventure.
So, who will voice Swallow? Miyano?
>>122749161
The sessions (with music and pictures) are uploaded in the official webpage.
>>122749225
So you're baiting, good to know.
>>122749263
>moonrunes
>>122749258
We don't know the VAs yet.
>>122749447
You have a bit translated here. >>122744799
>>122749475
Just a guess m8.
>>122749225
Sanda actually gave them a lot of freedom after the first session and Nasu and Urobuchi's characters were even made to clash at the end.
>>122749593
In the TRPG there was only two, Sawashiro for Eiha and Nakata for the Black Dragon.
>>122749258
Miyano would probably work. He needs to sound idiotic when he is not being serious.
>>122747624
He also said that they changed some stuff from the other characters.
Still, nothing seems as extreme as the Lou thing.
>>122736796
What happened to Ibuki's horn?
>>122736510
>dat style
>dat cuteness
>dat setting potential
>Aikawa Shou
>Hitoshi Sakimoto
I'm hype.
>>122751278
It got simplified.
>>122751443
It was a sign of the Nill Kamui imperial lineage.
>>122738850
I remember reading here that Urobuchi went full edgelord and betrayed the party, then tried to kill one of the others. He got done in though.
>>122751695
At one point, the part split in a fellowship of the ring fashion, more given that all of them represented a country and these had clashing interests.
Lou basically went rogue and began its own evergrowing zombie army.
>>122747973
So the anime will be the heavily romanticised version?
>>122751695
>Urobuchi went full edgelord and betrayed the party, then tried to kill one of the others.
Why am I laughing so hard?
Urobutcher creating an edgy motherfucker and then playing them the way he directs his works... I can already picture the squinty eye rolls around the table.
"I rike to Rorr fo Initiative prease."
"Urobuchi-san we resuting in safe purace"
"I rike to Rorr fo Initiative prease!"
>>122752410
He tried to not be so obvious, but nobody trusted him and Nasu even called him homicidal demon from the start. The problem was that even so they avoided metagame, so while Nasu was afraid of Lou, Swallow was happily oblivious.
>>122751815
>Necromancer
best guy right there.
>shota y loli
>shota
Picked up
I could have sworn this series was an LN though and by Narita.
>>122753207
He is not a necromancer per se, he just got a skill that let him to take control of whoever he killed.
>>122753520
Narita was one of the characters. This one. >>122737961
He is an immortal merchant.
>>122753581
>since when have you been under the impression that I did not kill you in your sleep?
>You have been doing my bidding all along.
>>122754326
They could've done a complete redesign and I would've stayed happy as long as she was brown.
Why...
Guess you got to make them sales huh.
>>122754431
Well, she was never that brown, just a bit.
>>122755043
She was Tanned, really.
Not really brown.
