Why are normalfags so bothered by sad anime (melodrama)?
My main value of an anime is if it can make me cry or not. I don't care if it's "edgy' or deep, and I don't care if the melodrama is great or not, I can get that shit from american tv shows so "melodrama" is something I can only get from Japanese dramas.
I only care if the melodrama is bad or not. Sometimes it's cringeworthy, or pulls you out of the moment, that is legitimate criticisms. But sometimes anons complain that drama anime/manga has "cheap drama" but who the hell cares? If it makes you cry, who cares if it is deep or not, or cheap or not, I just want to get from point A or B.
Also PA Works thread.
>>122454604
>normalfags
Normalfags like melodrama. You're talking about /a/.
I'm the same way, you should read Chumo Once Again (sometimes called Once Again, idk).
I LOVE crying. I am a crybaby IRL and I love reading a story that makes me cry.
But I also go through phases when I am feeling very very stressed out the last thing I want to do is get invested in the trauma of another. I want a happy and fluffy story. Normalfags, who have jobs, are much more likely to get that daily stress and anxiety and need a nice happy story to unwind.
My 2c.
>>122454604
>crying
Faggot
>>122454891
Kill yourself
>>122454963
>he goes cry regularly
look at this faggot over here.
>>122454963
>Cyber-bully
you should read Vitamin its all about bullies (albeit not of the cyber variety).
>>122454891
OP here.
I think normalfags, and wageslaves, are more likely to cry over stupid shit like the girl secretary at their job bullied them or they are a virgin. That is why they are so angry at melodrama. People like us, who are superior, don't cry very often, so we need decent melodrama to "trick" us into crying those theraupeutic tears.
Anyway, I enjoy it. As long as the character development and stuff is done right, I like melodrama, it's my favorite anime genre.
>>122454604
Melodrama's really overrated. Tragedies and biting sarcasm are where it's at. If anything, normalfags love melodrama. I can't tell you all the normalfags who go on about how "sad Clannad is" or some shit like that.
>>122454981
>he goes cry regularly
>>122454604
Are you really saying it's some kind of glorious hipster thing to like melodrama? Really?
>>122454981
I dont know if you meant this post for me, but I do cry regularly and I am not a male nor gay but I feel like its cathartic for me. When I am done crying I feel better. Crying together with fictional characters in particular makes me feel closer to them, I feel their pain kind of thing.
I'm already a sensitive person so I cry very easily IRL as well and yes that can be an issue. Like yes, when I was new to 4chan I cried a lot when I got called names but not as much now.
Chumo Once Again makes me sob every single time I read it.
I think any story that makes me cry is a good story at least for that moment.
>>122455040
>tomino.jpg
>The man who wrote adventures of elpeo puru and ideon
Please, anon, are you trying?
>>122455016
Except normalfags don't complain about melodrama. You're making shit up. It's /a/ that always talks about "forced drama".
People who cry over Clannad are mentally challenged and should seek more education and story comprehension immediately.
Protip: The next time you see a Clannad thread, look at the posts.
Most of the posters have blatant misspellings in their posts. Capitalization and punctuation is forgotten, and Youtube-style idiocy is emphasized.
This exemplifies the low intelligence level of Clannad fans. It isn't without reason either.
Clannad is simply a story that was overly dramatic and tragic, a story that should've appealed to anyone with a sense of heart. However, most people have seen this strategy in the forms of books, movies, real life, or some other medium.
The dramatic, tragic story has been done many many times, and the single death of an over-dramatized "cute" characters should no longer affect the intellectual in a drastic way.
However, Clannad's target audience consists of 13 year old boys who have never experienced forms of higher literature or story. If one were to watch Clannad without having experienced stories with sadness in them, they would use Clannad as the base value for the genre. However, if one were more educated on the aspects of dramas and tragedies, one would regard Clannad as a poor attempt to appeal to their audiences.
Once the dramatic and tragic elements of Clannad are removed, the remaining dregs are composed of cute girls and pitiful comedic scenes. Essentially, this is what Clannad is to the educated and informed. A simple show which has no appeal whatsoever. However, to the uneducated, Clannad represents a new flavor of anime they have just experienced.
Although one can regard a new genre as wonderful, I would advise one to pursue more subjects of that genre. There is no point fawning over a single anime that broadcasted months or years ago. I would suggest that, instead of creating another Clannad thread, you should go watch some more anime. Or, better yet, you can always go read a book.
>>122455016
>>122455068
This has to be a troll, right?
>>122455086
My mother (very normalfag, 2.5 kids and a dog, white, middle class, etc) hates sad endings and only likes happy ones. Sad endings in general test badly among most of society.
I do stick by my theory that when you are feeling highly stressed/anxious you need something lighthearted to forget your worries. When you are very relaxed you need something sad to make you cry and feel.
>>122454604
melodrama is entry norm tier
>>122455068
feel some pain and you won't cry again. you'll be more discerning when the bar is raised.
>>122455097
What about people who can't speak proper english.
I can't feel sad about forced drama and dumb misunderstandings. I have nothing against being made sad by something that feels more natural and happens to characters I care about.
>>122454844
>Normalfags like melodrama
All of the ones I've met who know what anime is prefer edgy shounen. That's why they'll never consider a SoL show.
>>122455103
Those are post by 2 different poster. I'm the 2nd and not a troll.
>>122455097
I didn't think this was a Clannad thread, OP pic is not of Clannad.
Clannad is sometimes very cheery and it can move very very very slow but it has its sad moments as well. I like the parent/child motifs in general and those relationships are ripe for tears. At least for me. Just all those parental relationships make me cry and listen to Cranberries' Ode to my Family.
>>122455119
Titanic is the second best selling film of all time. Yup, normal people hate melodrama.
>>122455181
>I'm not a troll.
And I actually have good tastes.
Saying so still doesn't make it true.
>>122455074
>what is a laughing reaction image
Anon pls
>>122455086
The only people who like melodrama are underage retards. Most people (be they from /a/ or otherwise) dislike it.
>>122454844
This.
>>122455191
Touche except ALL THE OTHER TOP TEN are not tragic at all. so thats what, 90% happy ending 10% tragic?
Rest my case. Case rested. The end. In general a tragic ending is considered a risk people will hate it, because if you are a stressed out normalfag with a horrible job and bills coming out your ass you want to relax and see some escapism. You don't want to see anything too sad.
Titanic is amazing on many levels and I won't go into them here because its not /tv/ But there's a reason why its the EXCEPTION and not the rule.
>>122455236
Should I read Chumo Once Again and then do a vocaroo of my crying? Not sure how to prove I am not a troll.
But I promise you, yes I am a giant crybaby, yes I love to cry, especially crying over a good manga.
the quality of anime should not be judged on its capacity for maudlin exploitations but for intellectual enlightenment
in this regard, there has never been a good anime
>>122455333
These trips command You.
>>122455068
>I'm already a sensitive person so I cry very easily IRL as well and yes that can be an issue. Like yes, when I was new to 4chan I cried a lot when I got called names but not as much now.
WHAHAHHAHA you fucking faggot
kill yourself
>>122455341
Every reaction is a form of emotional enlightenment and no reaction is as deep as sobbing is. That is what we do when we are at our most exposed.. If something amazingly sad happens, you'd cry. If something amazingly happy happens, you'd cry. When you are angry to the core, you'd cry.
Tears are a sign of "I am feeling so much right now I don't know what else to do but make tears".
This emotional enlightenment is more true to ourselves than "intellectual" enlightenment, intellect flows forward from our emotional reactions.
>>122455404
Exactly, I have cried for the reasons of "I am sad", "I am happy", "this is epic", "I have a mixture of emotions" or even "I find this funny". That is why my rank of favorite anime is not based on objective qualities but how hard I cried. Of my 3x3 choices only 2 I did not significantly cry to, at some point.
Trying to extend the normalfag dichotomy to [any feature of shows I like] is retarded.
You want melodrama? Go watch a fucking soap opera. I'm sure your grandmother would appreciate being able to talk to you for a change.
>>122455404
>If something amazingly happy happens, you'd cry. When you are angry to the core, you'd cry.
This isn't how most people behave. Either that or you live in some real pansy country OP.
Someone didn't watch his soap operas as a kid. This is no better.
You are the normalfag.
>>122454604
It's really a very individual thing how one reacts to melodrama (be it well written or otherwise,) and I think it has little to do with how much of a "normalfag" you are.
Without blogging too hard, suffice it to say I am over 30, well-educated, and while I work at a comfortable professional job now, I spent several years as a NEET. I also come from a background where I lost a lot of friends and some family members to drugs/violence/illness etc. from a young age, and live in a place where I still lose friends and acquaintances to the insane heroin epidemic happening around here lately.
It doesn't bother me at all when it happens.
What do I tear up over? Today's episode of Shigatsu ha Kimi no Uso.
Even though I know it's not very well written. Even though I know it's rather generic and uses cheap tricks to tug at your heartstrings. Hell, even though I have already read the ending of the manga.
I don't know why melodramatic Jap cartoons get to me and real life shit doesn't even phase me, it just seems to be the way I work.
>>122455915
>Without blogging too hard
>>122456009
pretty generic details, not blogging any harder than others ITT. Relevant to the point at hand.
>>122454604
Drama is a good thing. Melodrama isn't.
>>122454604
>My main value of an anime is if it can make me cry or not.
I'm the same. Except change "cry" into "entertain". And melodrama is not fun, but a cringeworthy parade of stuck-up people pretending to be living a life.
>>122456128
Is the difference completely subjective? If it makes me cry is it still melodrama?
>>122455915
>I don't know why melodramatic Jap cartoons get to me and real life shit doesn't even phase me
i have a similar experience in life
i suspect representational and limited art makes it easier to focus on the basic qualities of a story or happenings plus exaggerated style of anime ensures that when it hits home it hits hard
whereas all the excessive details and endless intertwining factors and observer/participant problem of real life makes appreciation impossible
this might mean i'm autistic
>>122455068
Maybe that says something about the quality of your posts if you regularly get called names.
>>122455307
A sad ending doesn't have to be melodramatic or tragic and more often than not it isn't.
>>122455097
This shit has to be pasta
>>122455016
>People like us, who are superior
Melodrama is that drama that is over the top and sucks.
>Fuck this crazy fight is so awesome and epic what an amazing show.
>Fuck this girl is crying for like barely ANY reason what a shit show.
>>122455016
You are quite literally the normalfag hipster cancer that is killing this place.
>>122454604
>My main value of an anime is if it can make me cry or not.
That's stupid. You melodrama fags are stupid.
>>122456787
>Hipster normalfag
And some of you people will still say that this place is not tumblr.
>>122456787
>normalfag
>NEET
>>122454604
>crying over shitgatsu wa kimoi no kuso
Seriously OP?
It is anything but sad. Nobody even care about the blondeslut. The only people that like this show are middle school 14years old going through their chuuni phase.
Ep4 of NNB alone generated more emotional attachment than the whole or shitgatsu.
OP you are the normalfag.
>>122457011
That's all the same person you moron.
>>122457019
neets have grown in numbers this generation and have gained an unwarranted amount of self-importance and have no understanding of the world or principles and bully everyone else from a position of ignorance
they are the chads of the internet
>>122457019
Doing something because you find it so very hip and cool and masturbating over how special you are, is exactly what makes you a normalfag hipster.
>>122457021
>OP
I dropped it on episode 09
The episode with the edgy mom, it was too much for me and I couldn't take it.
However, the other week I started watching it again starting from that episode, which still sucked but I liked the rest and it was pretty neat to see the parellels between that guys mom and his not-gf.
I cried a couple times and I don't feel bad.
I could put myself in his shoes, sure I never had gf but imagine falling in love with someone exactly like your mom, who is a cunt and then being presented with that "what the fuck" moment when you realize she's basically your mom, I liked that it was pretty cool.
Much better than lolis in the country or lolis speaking english or other moe SoL. Although those are okay too, they just don't do as much for me.
>>122457042
>I'm the same person as OP
what?
>Normalfags
>Not liking melodrama
why the fuck do you think soap operas are so popular?
>>122457021
>It is anything but sad. Nobody even care about the blondeslut. The only people that like this show are middle school 14years old going through their chuuni phase.
Well, it is a shounen after all.
>>122457081
I don't give a fuck who you are retarded tripfag.
>>122454604
>so "melodrama" is something I can only get from Japanese dramas.
4chan is a board for 18+
You shouldn't be here.
>>122457103
That tripfag showed more intelligence and self-awareness than them, if anything.
>>122454844
I'd like a source on that
>>122457042
I am only the person who posted shigatsu and angel beats images.
>>122457019
>I'm an otaku and I'm proud!
>>122455097
I can imagine how hard you tipped your hat while typing this
>>122457137
Honestly no. I don't care about "otaku" designation, I am a traditional white American and proud, I just like anime that makes me cry and feel things I wouldn't feel in real life. (true love, innocence, suffering not of my own invention etc.)
>>122455016
I agree. Unironically.
>>122455915
iktf bro...maybe I'm depressed or something, but I really relate to one of the show's themes of how special people can transform your life, as though a perpetual grey filter has been removed from your sight. Just the basic idea of the show, having something beautiful and transformative be necessarily transient, really resonates with me. I'm probably a bit emotionally stunted, but I'd like to think that I'm well-educated and self-aware enough not to be delusional in my appreciation for the show.
>>122455068
You know what, anyone who can admit such a thing to /a/ is quite brave indeed.
It's like walking into the tough guy bar and announcing "I used to be scared of you guys!" Except with less potential injury.
>>122457168
Life is suffering enough. Why do we need to experience even more suffering in 2d?
Are guys this masochistic?
I just wish the mods were awake so they could delete this thread.
>>122457226
>feels
God this thread is awful
>>122457268
>anyone who can admit such a thing to /a/ is quite brave indeed
>brave
No they're crybaby manchild who needs to grow up instead of blogging about their blabbing.
>>122457276
Everyone hates them because they are horrible human beings, so they have never experienced anything in their live, so all they can do is pretend over some shitty melodrama and talk about how glorious it is.
>>122457168
>I am a traditional white American and proud
>I just like anime that makes me cry and feel things I wouldn't feel in real life. (true love, innocence, suffering not of my own invention etc.)
Really?
Really, /a/?
I knew we've reached the bottom since a few years, but this is just scraping to go further down.
>>122456787
Stop trying so hard to fit in retard
>>122457783
You might wanna say that to the baby that made a whole thread trying to justify his watching of melodrama and how he is the master race and how normies will never understand.
>>122454844
Exactly. /a/ hates drama and depressing anime because it brings them back to their own shitty depressing realities while normies revel in it
I don't know why you think shows that are supposed to make you cry and then don't are for you.
if you aren't touched by them, they clearly aren't and you should just consider staring at a wall for all it's worth to you.
>>122457818
On the contrary, I enjoy some drama because the neet life is fucking boring, and so is watching the same type of shit all the time.
>>122458038
I know that all the kids in this thread might wanna make you express your underage wishes about the hugbox, but you just end up sounding like an underage kid.
>>122458106
that's very cute, honey
>>122458081
>I enjoy some drama because the neet life is fucking boring
So get a job then.
>>122458142
Nice one
>>122458081
>On the contrary, I enjoy some drama because the neet life is fucking boring
You're that much of a failure you need surrogate, fake drama about imaginary people to make you feel something you think it's how real people feel.
Do you realize how utterly insane this is? And you come here thinking this is your not-normalfag hugbox?
You're delusional on all possible levels.
post good sad anime
pic related
>>122458203
Isn't this the point of pretty much all works of fiction? To participate in something imaginary because it is different from real life?
>>122454604
Because melodrama feels weird and cheesy in anime. I'll stick with superior arthouse films for that. Anime is for fun.
>>122458273
They're calling you out for being an autistic retard who hides in their basement while seeking out fiction about what life outside is. And they're right.
Yes, yes, body genres.
If you're fine with exploitation than who cares.
>>122458203
The fuck are you on about? I said I was bored, and watching the same kind of happy shit over and over gets old, so its better to mix things up sometimes. This is opposed opposed to hating any kind of drama because it reminds me of some soul crushing depression I'm supposedly feeling according to the post I quoted. Could you be any more of an over exaggerating faggot, or are you just projecting?
>>122458273
>Isn't this the point of pretty much all works of fiction?
Not at all.
Fairy Tales, Operas, Thrillers and SoL are all different genres with different narrative standards, formulas and purposes.
Some people strive to make their works life-like while others don't, the reader/listener/viewer interpretation is another bridge in communication that when crossed might or might not radically change the creator's message.
This is basic science of communication principle.
Japanese tragedy plots are often convoluted and don't really add anything
Look at shield bro and his fat Tanuki. What does that ending add to the story? What was the point in the story at all? What are we suppose to take away from it? That the author has a case of college student narcissism?
>>122455176
>SoL
>drama
pick one
>>122454604
So many edgelords ITT lmao
I'm not, I loved Ano Hana but this isn't cutting it for me.
The way the author puts everything across and Tsubaki is just all done completely wrong. If it was between Kousei and Kaori then I could get with it but this retarded love square is pointless.
>>122458365
>i'm from /v/ and base my opinion on what people told me
ok
>>122458203
>>122458326
How fucking new are you? Holy shit
It's like you don't know where you are
>>122458521
I've been of 4chins for 8 years, not all of us are failures who live off their government neetbux in their parents basement you know?
Now fuck off.
>>122458600
Yeah sure thing faggot, keep pretending
Why aren't you doing something useful than?
I just want to watch cute girls doing cute things or cool guys doing cool things, I dont need or want to be reminded of how much of a failure I am.
>>122455097
I'm undecided on how clever this is. I actually agree with this in general, though the pasta elements woven into it make it seem less sincere. The fact that such a large number of anime fans, on /a/, MAL, Reddit and what have you, all consider Clannad:AS to be a masterpiece, with barely any opposition outside of the most self claimed patrician circles, is a very strange happening to me. Call it 'forced drama' or whatever, but the series goes excessive lengths to take utterly bland, badly defined and will-less characters who only respond to things in the most dramatically convenient and exaggerated ways, and shoves them in for of the viewer in a manor that would make many soapies blush. To see people proud that they cried to it (frequently when they claim that nothing else would), I don't know what to make of it.
>>122455068
>btw im a gurl
Fuck off
>>122458521
You don't have the mentality that makes you a proper anon. You are just a stupid kid.
>>122458521
>actually believing most of /a/ are worthless losers
Surprise! A lot of people are normal here too.
Do you take the whole waifu thing seriously as well? Because you seem like the sort of newfag who would.
>>122458600
>>122458659
>le true scotsman face
Fuck off
>>122458600
>someone who doesn't work his ass at least 8h a day is considered a failure
This is what normalfags actually believe.
>>122458692
>saying that in a thread started with "Why are normalfags" by a braindead child
Really, what the fuck is happening with /a/ lately? We used to just have the occasional laugh about normalfags and be on our way, but recently that /r9k/ frogshit is seeping into everywhere, and people can't stop screaming "NORMIES" in every fucking thread.
>>122458470
I watch tons of fucking shoujo. SoL is almost all otaku focused shit that lacks the good qualities even that has. I'm the last person to be against the idea of slice of life in general, but it i a garbage genre outside of the few sincere things like Azumanga.
>>122454604
>/a/ shits on this show while the same people are probably hyped for the new shitty KyoAni music Anime
Holy shit wow
>>122458714
>We used to just have the occasional laugh about normalfags and be on our way, but recently that /r9k/ frogshit is seeping into everywhere, and people can't stop screaming "NORMIES" in every fucking thread.
The problem is that in recent years autistic neets have become the majority of the userbase in the popular boards and think this is their hugbox where they can feel protected, they're literally like those american feminists, but instead of screaming RAAAAAPE they scream NORMALFAAAAAAGS when someone points out the truth.
>>122456128
Is the person writing that supposed to be an idiot?
>>122458714
/a/ right now is a combination of exactly that hipster normals and even more hipster normals (/r9k/). People that are such trashes that no one wants them, so they go in whatever community the can find to pretend they are special, without caring about the reason it exists and just jurking off thanks to the social interactions they get from it.
>>122458723
Thanks for proving my point.
>>122458666
>Do you take the whole waifu thing seriously as well
I thought most people here do because you fags always sperg out whenever someone posts that waifuism video and how he's wrong
I really believe most people are sincere about it
>>122458782
>The problem is that in recent years autistic neets have become the majority of the userbase
I'm not siding with them, but you do realize they used to be the main userbase before we "normalfags" got here? It's just in the recent few years where reddit/tumblr retards think they're welcome. It's like people on other boards complaining about /a/ reaction images, aka something that's been present from the beginning.
>>122458714
>>122458782
yeah notice how people get mad here every time you mention your gf or friends
/a/ is salty lately because there hasn't been a good anime in a few years
that's the only reason really
![[FFF] Strike the Blood - 17 [9C8FF21F].mkv_snapshot_19.23_[2014.02.08_21.53.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZHlKFBT.jpg "[FFF] Strike the Blood - 17 [9C8FF21F].mkv_snapshot_19.23_[2014.02.08_21.53.34].jpg")
>>122458802
>I really believe most people are sincere about it
>>122458844
You mean normalfags getting upset because they can't get their bebop mk2 or action cartoons right?
>>122458909
>bebop mk2
They did it was shit.
>>122458878
>>122458909
normalfags got their bebop mk2 with dandy and ackshun tunes with klk
the normalfags are contented
as before: /a/ is salty lately because there hasn't been a good anime in a few years
>>122458878
Wait, did that guy transplant himself into Absolute Duo? I recall he was the second vampire or something.
If anime makes you cry you're a fucking faggot.
The only value anime has is in entertaining people.
>>122458928
Both dandy and klk were shit
>>122458841
There's a difference between the old userbase wink wink nudge nudge NEET and OP's autism NEET.
>>122458936
I cried bitch tears to the ending on Dennou Coil and the entirety of that Death Para episode.
>>122458841
Normalfaggotry is not some sort of state about what you are doing right now with your life. Are you in your basement, or are you outside working and studying.
It is a matter of way of thinking, of your basic mentality. Of the things you like, the reasons you like them and the things you find acceptable. One of the most important signs of normalfaggotry is how little they care about things, for example anime. They just use places like /a/ to get their social interactions, so they don't die from loneliness and being unaccepted by anyone. Something a proper anon would not care about, but just try to contribute with something of value. Instead it has become a cult of the self and what a special snowflake you try to be, just like tumblr, I am on the internet I am so cool, just like reddit. They don't really hold anything dear other than their own ego.
>>122458936
I don't cry I'm a strong man you're all faggots
Anime can do whatever you want you close minded faggot
Oh wait you unironically enjoy moeshit so your opinion doesn't matter
>>122458944
either you don't understand me or you're implying /a/ is comprised of normalfags
How many people here sodo you think have legit autism?
![[Commie] Hanamaru Youchien - 11 [35A7D5B6].mkv_snapshot_04.39_[2015.02.05_03.09.31].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rWaD2bc.jpg "[Commie] Hanamaru Youchien - 11 [35A7D5B6].mkv_snapshot_04.39_[2015.02.05_03.09.31].jpg")
>>122458978
"Moeshit" is what you watch when you grow up, son.
>unironically
Whenever this word is used in a post I know the poster is either a faggot or a troll, and probably both.
>>122458968
Normalfag is just a meaningless buzzword, it has always been
>>122458841
>but you do realize they used to be the main userbase before we "normalfags" got here?
I don't remember /a/ being that overly fixated with moeshit when I came to 4chan, we used to talk about different stuff more often and even the old regular threads about Fate or other shit have changed drastically over the years, the only thing that maybe is still the same are EVA threads, except that now there's even more butthurt thanks to Rebuild.
and this>>122458963, back then not only we used to joke on it, we could even get serious talk about it without becoming overly defensive faggots that loathe on normalfags 24/7.
Normalfags weren't even considered back in the days, you could crack a joke or two about them and that was it, now it's one of the far too many boogeymen of 4chan together with feminists, Tumblr and Reddit, it's excessive, annoying and pathetic.
>>122459032
Nice defense mechanism degenerate
"Moeshit" is what you watch when you grow up
Only if you're retard with no quality standards
>>122459032
Cartoons are what you stop watching when you grow up, yet here we are.
>>122454604
>or deep, and I don't care if the melodrama is great or not,
>I only care if the melodrama is bad or not.
am I the only one who noticed this? 130+ replies? seriously?
>>122459032
Kill yourself
>>122458844
>>122458928
>there hasn't been a good anime in a few years
Only because /a/ shits on everything that is not boring aimless slice of life comedy
>>122459059
>>122459083
>>122459231
Keep the asspain flowing, nerds.
Normalfags love melodrama what the fuck are you talking about. They especially like it when people die melodramatically. sao sgk, akame, this show etc. People like us on the other hand commonly enjoy shows shows so devoid of real drama that normal people have no interest in them, like all the little girl moe shows. /a/ is also the only english place that likes those shows so it's obvious that people into them would congregate here, while there are plenty of alternatives for the normalfag stuff
>>122459269
>le butthurt maymay
You are a degenerate with shit taste, there is no point in arguing that
>this whole thread
>>122459217
I stopped reading after
>My main value of an anime is if it can make me cry or not.
guess most people did.
>>122458714
the /pol/ us vs them cancerous mindset metastasized into the rest of 4chan. now everything is a fight against the people who are out to get us
>>122455016
Jesus christ.
>>122459297
>degenerate
>>>/pol/
Could you be trying any harder to fit in or what?
>>122455016
Holy fuck this post has to be ironic.
>>122454604
How close are we to the end btw?
This thread reeks of special snowflaking and once again proves how the word "normalfag" has completelty lost its meaning and become another buzzword newfags use to "insult" someone who disagree with their opinion and biases.
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>>122454604
see
>>122458307
>>122456128
Most anime is just bad at drama. Most of the Japanese entertainment industry can't into subtlety, so when they try for sadness it just comes off as exaggerated, campy melodrama.
For anyone not extremely used to it (as well as a lot of the people who are used to it) it quickly becomes impossible to take it seriously enough to feel profoundly sad. I remember when my mom decided she wanted to watch an episode of Fate/Zero with me and she was cracking up at the part where Zouken shows Kariya how Sakura was being wormed.
>Why are normalfags so bothered by sad anime (melodrama)?
I think you mean the retards on /a/ who fall for the whole 'forced drama' troll.
There's good drama and badly written drama, just like anything else. The people who apply the forced drama buzzword to everything unconditionally are trying very hard to fit in by using /a/ lingo.
It doesn't exactly help that all the autistic Chris-chans that have been wondering into 4chan over the years have turned this place into a complete shithole. People blame the normalfag boogieman, which is complete bullshit. Normalfags don't care about shitting up a chinese cartoon imageboard all day, the only people that do this are these faggots. Endlessly clashing with one another all day over pointless nitpicking and misunderstandings because they can't understand nonverbal queues over the goddamn internet of all places.
>>122461358
This close
>>122461788
There's no such thing as good anime drama.
>>122461869
>I only consume 20 shows a season of currently airing rubbish
>>122461914
Not him but fuck you got me.
>>122458782
>in recent years
you mean since 2007?
>>122459039
are you trying to rewrite history? cause I remember it being worse back then than now.
Because if it's cheap, shitty and cringeworthy it doesn't make you cry. If genre fiction cartoons aimed at kids and horny shut-ins make you cry you have shit taste. Anyone with half a brain won't be able to get so much into it that it makes them cry.
>>122455119
>>122455307
It's not a normalfag thing, it's a 'murrica thing. Americans love action and happy endings, they won't buy anything they consider boring or sad.
>>122454604
American television is better than any anime that will ever be released, now and forever.
>>122455151
>not knowing how to speak a language
>trying to discuss niche topics with that language
If you were in a wheelchair, would you take the stairs or the elevator?
>>122462171
yeah I heard they won't make del torro's take on mountain of madness unless it either had a happy ending or a romantic subplot
del toro refused so its not getting made.
>>122456256
Yes anon. What you're dealing with if that happens is called 'Your own shit taste'.
Look at it this way: all those normalfags you hate all cried watching Twilight or Titanic or The Notebook or whatever. You're no different.
>>122458222
Normalfags are just people who come here to tell us why watching anime is bad and how they slayed over 9000 pussy last weekend. For some reason the word came mean "anyone that doesn't shit their pants in their parents basement" in recent years.
Most people on /a/ try to lead somewhat normal lives, hence the whole obsession we have with hiding our powerlevels and whatnot.
>>122462174
This is true, but I find more anime that I like than television shows I like.
It's just that American television that's actually good is very, very good.
Pic related.
>>122461914
Anime is good entertainment, it's not good drama.
There's a difference, you fucking moron.
>>122462263
That quote wasn't supposed to happen.Not a bad post to misquote though
>>122462263
The best part is that almost all instances of 'normalfags' appearing on /a/ is regulars trying to troll.
>>122462294
Indeed. For every Sopranos there's two Big Bang Theories and for every The Wire there's a Dads, Two And a Half Men, a 10 minute lecture from The Newsroom and a Honey Boo Boo. At least anime's consistent with its mediocrity.
>>122462174
>>122462294
Only because they are confident enough to kill main characters off and give it a decent ending.
Plus they make the drama parts pretty interesting where Japan is fucking shit at it.
>>122454604
No, OP. You are the normalfags.
>>122462174
>said that as posting the wire
>>122462403
the anime industry needs some sort of HBO channel to break out of its rut. Unfortuantely most high budget anime would probably turn into Miyazaki-esque family friendly shit.
>>122462294
>>122462174
I don't get why you people need tens of seasons to tell a story
>>122462433
>trying to bait this hard
What's your favourite tv show?
>>122454604
>ITT: I don't know the meaning of the word melodrama
>>122458326
And?
>>122462486
The Wire wasn't just one story.
I'd argue that anime would be better off without the seasonal system but most anime probably wouldn't be able to sustain more than 4 seasons at most of storytelling.
>>122462367
I think a big part of it is that the US has a lot more variety when it comes to entertainment styles and writing than Japan has ever had.
There's a lot of similarity between anime, Japanese cinema, Japanese video games, etc. when it comes to the stories they tell, the characters they contain, and the themes they reach for.
I mean, people talk about anime not having any subtlety, but that's almost all Japanese media in general.
I enjoy anime specifically for its escapist qualities anyway.
>>122454604
>>122462486
The Wire had fewer episodes than LoGH had. A shorter running time too, if you do the math.
This is literally shitposters, crossboarders, and retards: the thread.
>>122462486
If anime actually consistently adapted the material it was based on, it'd take about 12 years for the average anime to wrap itself up, with big gaping holes between seasons.
But instead, we get halfhearted attempts that doom a good start to a shit ending so that everything will fit into a set season.
>>122462569
Yeah I'm not talking about enjoying anime since it's already pretty obvious that I do, since I'm posting here.
I just want to understand it better, I suppose. From my perspective.
>>122462605
Well, what do you want to talk about? It's not like crossboarding and being mentally deficient is illegal. Shitposting is easy to ignore.
>>122462593
/a/ watches long anime only in rare cases. Don't generalize most of the anime to be 100+ episodes.
So wait. If I cried while watching Aria this means it's shit and not fun anime?
>>122462714
yes that is exactly what it means
>>122461303
I can only see you trying to fit in with your awful taste
Why isn't this thread deleted yet?
>>122462714
Aria being shit and not fun means it's shit and not fun anime, actually.
So a normalfag is just someone who has a different opinion from me, yes?
>>122462605
>crossboarders
Literally nothing wrong with that, shitposter-kun.
>no panty shots
>no tryhard pretentious bullshit
>no fanservice
>no squeeling underage lolis
>no giant robots
>no tsundere characters and beta males with a harem
>no wish-fulfillment bullshit for otaku scum
>no cliches
Spirited Away is barely an anime, it's more of a superior Western cartoon that both children and parents can enjoy.
And Miyazaki was completely right about anime in general being a mistake.
>>122462678
I think the problem with this, ironically enough, is that nobody takes anime that seriously. Most entertainment executives see it as a glorified TV ad, and it's not like the author's going to see much of that advertisement money. It'll help him, but more in a marketing sense as he sells more LNs or manga.
>>122462706
LoGH is not your average show. It's probably the best anime to have ever been made, and is treated similarly to how tv fans treat The Wire (with respect). That's the basis of my assumption. Of course, this only counts if you consider both shows the apotheoses of their respective mediums.
>>122462774
When they continue to act like they are on a different board, yes, it is.
>>122462751
Basically.
>>122462833
>It's probably the best anime to have ever been made
Alright I'm done reading.
>>122462930
What's your favourite anime?
>>122462810
Anime means Japanese animation. Just that. No particular artstyle/genre/whatever.
>>122462833
>It's probably the best anime to have ever been made
Jesus Christ, people really need to stop saying this and actually watch the series itself.
It's incredibly flawed and has plenty of poor writing, its visual direction is horrifically bland and derivative, and its battle sequences are insufferably sloppy and outright poor.
If anything, it's an example of what not to translate into animation. It's definitely a good show (if only for the great characters that are mistreated by being put into such a mediocre production), but the pinnacle of anime?God fucking no.
>>122463044
What is the best anime then? No show is perfect.
I certainly know what I like, and LoGH fits that to the tee.
>>122461974
The type of users that poster identified are not the same as the NEETs or average joes that have always been on 4chan in coexistence. Normalfaggotry has been actively discouraged because it is the complete opposite of everything that the board stands for. It's not a blanket term used to describe anybody that leaves their room or has a job, it's a label for shitty people that subscribe to shitty mentalities such as putting 'getting laid' on a pedestal or looking down on anything and anyone that are not considered normal or socially acceptable. These people have no reason to be on /a/ of all places and are rightfully issued a resounding 'fuck off'.
The autistic NEETs being referred to that are the problem are the diaper shitting, single digit IQ, mental degenerates who have seeped in over the years that get overly sensitive and blow up every time some idiot brings up their job, friends, or the fact that they leave their basement. Instead of ignoring and reporting their off-topic posts, they respond by shitposting relentlessly with frogs and outbursts about 'normies' that cause entire threads to devolve into pointless shitflinging that has nothing to do with anime or manga. It's far from being the only thing decreasing the quality of the board, but it's something that is clearly apparent.
>>122463010
FUCKING
TRICKED
>>122462844
>2015
>getting anally devastated about dank memes while reposting "Wy does she sit like that" for the millionth time
Cry some more shitter.
>>122462344
You need to watch more anime before making a sweeping generalization like that, you low powerlevel seasonal shitter.
>>122463149
I know it's bait.
But I'm sure there are some people on this board think like that. So I clarify this term for them.
>>122462810
>>no cliches
Are you fucking serious?
There are plenty of cliches.
It's a totally great movie, but it reuses all sorts of ideas. The fact that the little bitch escapes the horrible witchland brothel at all, while being helped by the staff, is a cliche in itself.
>2015
>still thinking that anime has any sort of artistic or intellectual merit
Anime is only good as brainless entertainment and can never hope to match Western cinema or literature in terms of worth.
>>122463207
What, 300+ series not counting movies and OVA series isn't enough to learn that anime is terrible when it comes to drama?
Oh, right, I forget that most of you are completely unfamiliar with any sort of storytelling outside of anime or manga.
Congratulations /a/. It's like I'm on reddit or /v/. Keep up the good work.
>>122462569
>US has a lot more variety when it comes to entertainment styles and writing than Japan has ever had.
If that were actually true I'd be watching more US shows anon but here I am struggling to find new stuff to pick up from their line ups while anime and manga chip away at my bandwidth quota like it ain't no thing. Last new show that grabbed my attention was Galavant and that was a scant 8 episodes with little hope of renewal.
>>122463440
Cry more newshit.
>>122463368
Komeiji pls, I see you hiding under there without a trip.
Please, tell us all about how you're a seasoned critic of superior mediums and how amazing visual novels are the pinnacle of Japanese entertainment.
>everyone shits on any other anime/manga with brief drama moments
>everyone is defending Shitgatsu for going full retard with its cheap crap
>>122458796
Proving it wrong, that is
>>122463488
That doesn't mean a thing. All that implies is that you happen to like anime and manga more than American stuff, which is fine.
>>122463331
You mean those books written by 16 yo girls that somehow gets released or 90% of movies that hollywood produces nowadays? Shitty anime is shit but it isn't that shitty.
>>122463527
But I think visual novels are utter shit.
It's incredible that you think there can't be more than one person that recognizes that anime sucks at drama.
>>122463331
>No anime can be good! It all has to be shit like mine!
>>122463747
>seriously thinking that anime is anything but mindless entertainment
Weeb alert.
>>122463747
>frogshit
>>122455016
dis nigga
>>122463841
There are definitely series that are more significant and memorable than others. You just watch garbage and excuse it with "well it's all dumb anyway haha".
>>122454844
>1 person is /a/
Wrong.
Also it's because Japs suck at drama and usually do the same Soap opera shit they've been doing since the 80s.
>mfw all the autists are averse to the classic drama genre of tragedy because they are incapable of feeling
Seriously guys, I know you'd rather have your sexual dysfunction catered to with fan service or gawp at wicked awesome fights, but melodrama is a legit branch of storytelling, perhaps the most so as it addresses human problems of how fundamentally crap everything is.
It's bad enough that the western world no longer produces good melodrama, now you want to try and foist that degenerate view on eastern media as well?
>>122463649
You're missing the cause and effect. I like anime and manga more than american stuff because there's a much wider variety of stories to be had from the japanese side. American tv does have some really nice gems popping up once in a while but the majority of it consists of subpar dramas, procedurals and sitcoms that can't seem to help but recycle premises until they land good enough casts and production crews that let them live for more than a single season.
>>122464108
>Soap opera shit
Why is this buzzword so notorious lately?
>>122463368
You're a silly man Komeiji.
Most of the English speaking people here will have lived in the western world and been exposed to a ton of it's media before having been exposed to anime and manga some time in their early adolescence. They have plenty of experience with western media and so a decent point of comparison with anime and manga.
>>122463331
Name one Hollywood blockbuster in the past year that can be said to have any sort of artistic or intellectual merit.
Hell, at least the better animes have artistically interesting visual design and unorthodox story from a western standpoint. Western cinema has degenerated a very great deal since the golden era of the 70s/80s/90s when we still produced popular work with artistic integrity.
>>122463331
This sort of attitude is fucking cancerous, you are what's wrong with this board you retarded manchild
>>122462968
>>122463066
No answer, what a surprise
>>122464271
If it's not shounen then it's obviously shit. Welcome to nu-neo-/a/
>>122464455
Boku no Pico
>>122464455
"Best anime" is a childish term only a teenager would use.
>>122463560
Whatever help you sleep at night.
>>122454604
But normalfags fucking love melodrama, OP. There are different varieties of shit eaters and you're one of them.
>>122464412
>taking anime seriously
>calling other manchildren
I see someone still hasn't outgrown their weeaboo phase.
>>122454604
>I only watch things that make me cry
Faggot
>>122464514
Ebin
>>122464514
Go back to /v/
>>122463331
>muh anime is shit because it's not pretentious pseudo intellectual bullshit
How many Fedoras do you own?
>>122464761
Could you be any more of a tryhard newshit?
>>122464761
for a hentai title the production values in boku no pico were really good,
its too bad well never get anything with loli that good.
>>122464508
>nu-neo-/a/
Fuck off with that cancer
Also shitposting towards shounen also exist.
>there are people on /a/ RIGHT NOW who actually cry at anime
Don't tell me that I share this board with effeminate 15 year old fags and women.
>>122464508
Adding more prefixes to your already bullshit wont make it more credible /v/-kun.
>>122464558
>>122463331
Why are you here?
Is it some kind of autosadism?
>>122454604
>how to spot someone who have been on /a/ since last summer
>>122464857
>hurr durr If you have emotions you are a faggot
Found the autist!
The only anime to ever make me cry was Gunbuster
>>122463331
You are the reason why Anime fans are and will always be seen as the worthless scum of society
Congratulations
>>122464558
You shouldn't be using words you don't understand
>>122464976
Confirmed for immature crybaby.
>>122465140
Why does this bother you?
Are you some kind of faggot who lets his powerlevel spill out?
>>122463331
Oh hey, it's the same guy who was on that other thread. Is this a ebin new /v/ meme?
>I didn't cry to Sword Art Online
>>122465140
No, the people who take anime seriously and think that it's a valid medium are the reason why everyone hate anime fans.
This kind of attitude is why both anime and anime fans are hated and despised even in Japan.
