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Just started watching the original Gundam after wanting to get into the franchise for quite a while but never getting around to it. I enjoy mecha so I knew it would at least be enjoyable. Some great characters with strong personalities.

Damn this is great. It is the father of Mecha afterall.

>B-BUT IT'S OLD AND STUFF

It looks amazing for a 1979 Anime. Sunrise knew what they were going.

Gundam thread?
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Eh, I liked it for the story but I wouldn't say it looks amazing for a 79 anime.
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What's with this gundam threads lately on /m/ instead?
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>>122011833
I'm trying hard to understand what the hell you're trying to communicate.
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>>122011833
>going to /m/

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>>122011463
Gundam didn't really start looking good until Zeta, that was definitely ahead of most other things from the time.
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>>122011463
The original Gundam series is still the best in my opinion. When you've finished that I recommend watching Zeta Gundam. It's also pretty good except that the main character can be kinda whiny.
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>>122012234
Kamille is the best newtype.
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>>122012234
Whiny? Kamille was just an angry angry young man. At least he didn't pull some of the shit Amuro did.
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>>122011463
I watched it and thought it was terrible. ZZ a best. With Origin though now I kinda want to watch the movies.
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>>122012490
>I watched it and thought it was terrible. ZZ a best.
What's it like living in some sort of disconnected mirror world?
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>>122012490
Well then you have bad taste my friend. The original is great.
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>>122012519
Newtype little girls as far as the eye can see.
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>>122012545
It was my first old anime, besides Eva and I just couldn't accept the style. Plus I had some confusions about the plot that aren't all that bad compared to other anime or I was actually wrong about.

For example, Amuro and Char's age difference. This ace pilot is threatened by a teenager and has a rivalry with him. How is that believable? That's so cartoony. So silly. But actually, Char is only 20 or 22. Only a few years age difference. So it is less cartoony and silly than it seems. And of course there is the whole thing that Char's ace status was from just destroying ships, he did less than others. If Char was replaced with Ramba Ral, their rivalry/relationship would be not so believable. But in reality they are of the same generation as they act in Zeta and CCA and with Lalah.
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>>122012877
Then just keep watching old anime.
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I always wondered why in the OP the gundam is seen as a merge of various machines but this never happens in the show
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>>122012877
>first old anime, besides Eva

Oh, /a/.
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>>122012894
I am watching Ideon right now and I love it.
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Victory is the best gundam series and I don't give a shit.
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>>122013101
I think characters were killed off too fast without proper setup. Victory has the best suit designs and best fights. (Not like Reco with 3 suits an episode but no reason to care)
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>>122011833
I'm guessing a lot of people decided to watch Gundam since Aldnoah started and it was supposed to "surpass Gundam". And since the last two seasons were pretty weak, people decided to get it out of their backlog and watch the "classic" already.
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>>122013152
The characters dying like flies was kind of a fault, but I guess it's an "everyone can die" thing.
Uso's definitely my favourite protagonist of them all though, I really cared for the guy. The fact that he never grew numb to killing people despite having the biggest killcount out of all gundam protags (and that's not even counting that he wiped out half a fucking spaceship fleet) really stands out to me too.
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>>122013158
>the last 2 seasons
There are only 2 seasons.
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>>122013318
I was disappointed cause I heard it's the saddest gundam and never got sad, maybe if I had a fun ride mentality I would've been less disappointed. As I said the fights were great and Uso was great. And Katejina is one of the best villains of the franchise. Really it had a lot of fun shit going on.
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>>122013158
Or maybe because of The Origin
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>>122013152
Victory had some of the best designs (the Victory MS and derivatives are probably some of the best), but then there's also dumb shit like the dragon thing or that spider which feel like they belong in G.
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>>122013158
AZ got me to finish Sidonia off my backlog.
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>>122013407
What about uso's mom getting beheaded, and uso carrying around the severed head in it's helmet for the rest of the episode?
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Best UC Gundam series coming through. You may as well just hang it up when you get to Zeta, not of the other shows surpass it.
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>>122013386
He probably means winter and fall.

Although that's no excuse, I enjoyed the fuck out of winter and fall anime, and I did what he said and watched 6 main Gundam series since summer and Fafner to boot.

Being NEET helps

>>122013442
I think Aldnoah and Origin kinda book ended the idea that this a better time than ever to get into gundam. As well as the early reco hype.
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>>122013550
Zeta has a great story and characters, but its pacing and action scenes are utter shit.
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>>122013463
I loved those along with the tire ships. The fucko craziness of the Zanscare designs was fun.
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>>122013598
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>>122012490
>ZZ
it's not even anime
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>>122011463
Started watching a couple of days ago. I'm impressed that while there's no denying that the animation is dated, the presentation is sharp and still very fresh. Tomino was less insane then than with G-Reco. Also despite the blocky look the original gundam is actually pretty enjoyable to see in action, it does feel like it has a personality as a military unit rather than being a giant plastic toy like pretty much all recent Gundam.
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I watched the first 0079 movie and was a little put off by the fact that White Base just bounces around aimlessly from place to place without much of an objective in the story. And if they have the Gundam, which is supposed to be a super secret weapon, why doesn't the military help them at all? Do they even care?

Also, when does Char become the legendary character everyone says he is? I haven't seen much from him so far.
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G Gundam is the best and y'all know it.
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>>122013442
but when's the next one though? needs to see more teen Char
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>>122013729
In the original gundam the animation is pretty bad, but the choreography is very good.
As opposed to Zeta with much better animation but very weak battles.
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>>122013737
This was my biggest issue from the series. They spent too long not going anywhere, similar to the earth fags in aldnoah. And what ever happened to all the refugees too.
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>>122013806
>They spent too long not going anywhere,
Oh boy do I have something to tell you about Zeta...
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>>122013737
That's Tomino for you I guess, you can see it from greco
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>>122013857
I like Zeta worse but the Argama had a clear goal more often. "We need to get Kamille to Dakar" "We need to stop Haman" etc.
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>>122013774
The battles weren't really the focus in Zeta.
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>>122013737
>And if they have the Gundam, which is supposed to be a super secret weapon, why doesn't the military help them at all? Do they even care?


the military pretty much become cunts after the original series. and the Gundam becomes outdated after a certain point in the war.

Amuro is just that damn good in it.

It's also part of the reason why Nu Gundam vs Sazabi is so one sided
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>>122012341
yeah, after rewatching 0079 recently, I have to agree. Kamille didn't do half the whining emoshit that amuro did.
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>>122013948
>the military pretty much become cunts after the original series
They were cunts back then, too, but they just had one good guy, Revil, who was in charge. If Revil didn't interfere, Bright and rest of the White Base crew would have been executed for stealing the White Base even though they stole it to save it from Zeon.
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>>122013948
>and the Gundam becomes outdated after a certain point in the war.
True. It's probably not that much better than the mass production types, but Amuro is a skilled pilot and a newtype.
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>>122013101

I love the series too anon, and goddamn what an ending, it's up there with the Turn A ending.
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>>122012948
Err, it IS a merge.
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>>122014098
God, you have no fucking idea just how much I wanted Uso and Shakti to just finally break free of the war and go back to their normal lives together and how happy I was when they were finally able to.
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>>122011463
>Sunrise knew what they were going
Sure when they cut half of the actually relevant dialogue.
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>>122014141
That shit always pissed me off. They would send several worthless parts who can't do shit to aimlessly fly around and then be forced to merge in the middle of combat.

Why not just skip that and merge immediately? Why even unmerge in the first place?
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>>122012894
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>>122012310
>>122012341
Took advantage of a terrorist attack to hijack a Gundam solely to take potshots at a guy who made fun of his name. I only wish we had protagonists like him these days.
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>>122013737
Watch the series instead of the movies.
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>>122013535

That's just show how senseless war is in tomino's mind.
That's why the kill count is so high\random and even underwhelming (some people die as if unimportant) in victory, because tomino thought that glorifying death on the battlefield, would also glorify the war that brought that death.
Sometimes happened in his series some charismatic death, but looking at ideon you can see the guy meant it.

Tomino best director.
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>>122013463
I loved how batshit crazy all of the Zanscare designs were from weird dragon to fabulous motorad and angel halo.
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So between Amuro, Judou, Kamille, and Banagher, which one was the strongest Newtype?
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>>122014178

Me fucking too, and i felt like a shit at katejina, i really despised her, for almost the whole series, but i did a 360 after seeing the disgrace she fell in.
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>>122014427

Simple.
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>>122014427
I dunno, which one is the most annoying bitch? it seems to be a theme.
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>>122014427
Well it was Jewdough, but somehow I think stopping Gryps 2 with newtype bullshittium makes Banana the strongest.
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>>122014427
Judau was the strongest Newtype, Amuro was the best pilot, Kamille had the potential to be almost as great as Amuro, since he too designed his own mobile suit and got very skilled in the art of shooting and dodging beams, but that got fucked over by Sirocco and Fa. Banana was pulled along by his ultra advanced machine. If you stuck him in a Jegan against any of the other Gundam mains in a Jegan, he'd get spanked ten times out of ten.
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>>122014693
>Kamille had the potential to be almost as great as Amuro, since he too designed his own mobile suit and got very skilled in the art of shooting and dodging beams, but that got fucked over by Sirocco and Fa.

I've always liked that Kamille didn't stay a pilot. He was able to really move on and rejoin society in a way that Amuro never really could.
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>>122014427
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According to Roriconfan (ThatAnimeSnob), 08th MS Team is the best Gundam.
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>>122014788
>He was able to really move on and rejoin society in a way that Amuro never really could.

Wasn't Amuro put on house arrest after his deeds in the One Year War? I bet that would put a damper on living a normal life.

the funny thing is he was going to retire if he lived at the end of Char's Counterattack
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>>122011463
If you think Gundam looks good, 70s anime is your fucking oyster, OP.
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>>122014816
Storyline is shit tier.
Mechanical porn is god tier among 0083
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>>122014816
No. War in the Pocket is definitely best.

As for series, it's Zeta and Turn A.

08th is great, though.
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>>122014816
Never heard of him but I agree with that.
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>>122014904
>>Storyline is shit tier.
08th Platoon adventures were fun.
The love story was pants-on-head retarded.
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>>122014854
>Wasn't Amuro put on house arrest after his deeds in the One Year War?
He was being monitored by the Earth Federation in his big mansion. But he was also struggling with post-traumatic stress, so even if the EF weren't keeping him in place I doubt he would have been up to much.
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>>122014816
08th MS Team had the potential to be the best Gundam.
Of course, they ruined it with the shitty cross-faction romance and prototype mobile armor bullshit and turning the MC from a guy who was fighting for Federation against Zeeks who gassed his homeland into an anti-war idiot who went out of his way to let enemies live on the field of battle.

It should have just been about a bunch of scrubs fighting Zeeks in the jungle. Maybe with more focus on guerrillas if they needed drama and politics and to hamfist a romance.
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>>122014854
Amuro became a military instructor and lived off the Haro patents and his military pension in a mansion with servants that were "secretly" Fed agents. Amuro lived like this because Lalah's death scarred him and he was too scared to go into space because he couldn't deal with the possibility of having to confront Lalah's Newtype ghost. Even in CCA, you can see he's still kind of messed up about Lalah.
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Has anyone here watched Gunpla Builders? You should, it's tons of fun and has incredible battle choreography. Just 40 minutes too.
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>>122015016
>08th MS Team had the potential to be the best Gundam.

For me that was F91.
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>>122014788
Kamille should have stayed mindfucked forever
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>>122015090
Why?
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>>122014971
You already know why it turned like that.
That platoon camp was really boring outside combat parts.

Gouf Custom was still best in 08th MS Team
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>>122015058
I have, and I thought it was kind of so-so. But then I saw BFT.

At least Builders made an effort to focus more on ranged combat, and yeah the choreography was pretty nice.
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>>122015090
>implying he doesn't enjoy doing that every night
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>>122015130
I wonder if the first director wanted to do that terrible love story before he kicked the bucket.
>>122015162
Beargguy >> Beargguy-san
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>>122015090
>Kamille should have stayed mindfucked forever


and suddenly I'm having flashbacks to G Gen advance and the dumb ass conditions in that game
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Zeta Gundam was full of autism,

-Good reasons why women should not be in the military,
-The Argama need to buy better locks and have guards checking the prison,
-What the fuck are you doing, Emma, leaving your mobile suit during a battle.
-The NRX-055 Baund Doc is cursed to be piloted by autistic Newtypes and getting kicked into exploding battleships.
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>>122015070
>You will never see a fully animated F91 series that ends with Crossbone
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>>122015198
Producer said that love story was written in script, but presentation was obviously fucked up after director change.
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What if mobile suits actually needed keys to start the engine so not every dumbfuck could just walk in and steal one whenever he feels like it?
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>>122015261
Watch Gundam X.
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>>122014427
Tobia Motherfucking Arronax
you can't top Space-Macguyver-turn-Space-Daredevil
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>>122015070
>>122015217
I really liked F91. It could have been so much better as a full blown series (especially if it had Turn A like pacing), but at least what we saw of it had amazing animation.

>>122015198
I want to think Kiki would have been the original winner, and that the series would have ended with Shiro and Kiki looking for Aina so that he could return the pocketwatch. And really, fuck that shitty LN by the VVV guy.
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>>122015070
This
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>>122015332
Even with that remote thingy, it was stolen what, twice in that series? First from the safe and then during the prison break. But at least no one stole it to run off to fight the enemy and get himself almost killed like in most of UC shows. So they weren't completely worthless.
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>>122015418
Have gundam novels ever been good?
Turn-A's "lel teleport beams into cockpit" bullshit is from the novel too.
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>>122011463
>It looks amazing for a 1979 Anime
It really doesn't.
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>>122015464
You just cannot comprehend the White Devil system.
the Tem Ray circuit would allow Amuro to control the White Devil reality morphing device at his will
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>>122015418
>It could have been so much better as a full blown series (especially if it had Turn A like pacing)
Ehh.

I think F91 would have been best served as an 8-12 episode OVA.
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>>122013729
>Tomino was less insane then than with G-Reco
Not really.
You can see in Gundam that he moves the story, more or less, in the same way he does with G-Reco. You know little about Zeon until Garma's death, you know very little about Char, you know almost jack shit about Federation.
It is the same thing he is doing with G-Reco, it is just more exaggerated because you got 10+ factions, half of the episodes and a very fast pace.
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>>122015562
Which is why you tack on Crossbone and have Seabook passing the torch onto Tobia. It could have been AGE done right.
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>>122015448
The Tomino novels always sounded more interesting (excerpts from ZZ/V/F91 in particular), I can't help but feel like a more capable storyteller could do something so much more with them - like Yas.

As for Turn-A, that whole fucking machine was full of ridiculously OP bullshit like the black hole generators.
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>>122015645
I haven't read Crossbone and know nothing about it. So, maybe.
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>>122015613
>it is just more exaggerated because you got 10+ factions, half of the episodes and a very fast pace
This is what I was referring to.
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I started watching 0079 after watching the Origin OVA and gotta ask how the hell did people watch this without previous knowledge of Origin? It would be really confusing like not knowing who Kycillia is, not knowing why Char betrayed Garma, not knowing why Ramba Ral and Sayla know each other and so on.
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>>122016025
>It would be really confusing like not knowing
That was the point.
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>>122016025
0079 was a production mess.
Origin is fixing it.
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>>122015090
Kamille should have been mind fucked by my dick
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>>122016025
Mysteries! Imagine if you watched 0079 as it happened and were wondering why the fuck Sayla hesitated at shooting Char in episode 1, and then why she knows Ramba Ral, and why she was so desperate to find out about Char, to the point of insubordination and running off with the Gundam, and you find out she's one of Zeon's heirs. That shit would have been crazy.
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>>122016025
It's back story that's revealed as the series goes.

And, if you ask me, it should've stayed that way.
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The question is:
Will we get more Origin after those 4 Charwank OVAs and if: Will those also be OVAs and not end till 2030?
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>>122013737
>why doesn't the military help them at all? Do they even care?
Amura said it at the beginning. White Base and Gundam were being used as bait, so Zeon would focus on them and let the Federation work on something else.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpW6AJTnqT8

What could have been.
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I just can't thinking about shota Gar
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>>122016311
Tell me what anime Chris joins the crew and Amuro pilots the alex
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>>122016176
>were wondering why
You would be called a retard, because this happens in the second episode.
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>>I22013918
The battles are never the focus, but Gundam has a high standard for action sequences and Zeta really drops the ball, I don't know the story behind the production but it feels like some of the better animators involved in the original weren't so heavily involved in the early Zeta. Just look at ZZ that started like a week later and has significantly better quality like the last two episodes of Zeta.
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>>122016025
The mystery of the backstory is what makes it so interesting. When you reach the "what are you doing Char?!" moment you suddenly realize it's so much more than a simple good vs bad story.

>>122016227
I hope we get more. But they really need to up the production speed and add more sakuga.
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>>122016227
I hope not, honestly.
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>>122016455
Ah, yes. I really should rewatch 0079.
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>>122016504
Really, Tomino is many things, but he is not subtle about relationships. And he didn't change a lot, judging by Aida and Bellri.

I
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Where can I find [EG] subs?

I can't find a Zeta batch torrent
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>>122016661
Try bakabt. For Zeta there is the OZC release too.
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Jumping in to say I absolutely adore Gundam.
It's a mix of nostalgia having watched it as a kid + good story + characters + mecha + the maybe shitty style but still cool and a million other things.

Gundam and Macross, Mazinger, fucking VOLTRON, later on Escaflowne, Eva, Wing, etc. are so good and were basically my childhood-teen series.
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>>122016765
Is there a list of best subs for each Gundam show?

I only know about RX-78's releases but what about the other AU/UC series?
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>>122013101
despite its random lapses in autism victory is super underappreciated and doesnt deserve half the flack it gets, the thing that always confused me about its overwhelming hate is that a majority of the complaints thrown at it were just as bad if not worse in 079 and zeta
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>>122017404
I still have this list from december

>Mobile Suit Gundam
EG (dual Audio)
>MSG movie trilogy
EG (triple audio)
>Zeta Gundam
EG, OZC for dub
>Zeta Gundam: A New Translation
EG
>Gundam ZZ
EG (look for R1 subtitle patches)
>Char's Counterattack
EG
>Gundam 0080
EG, a4e for dub
>Gundam F91
EG (dual audio)
>Gundam 0083
EG, OZC for dub
>Victory Gundam
EG
>G Gundam
EG (dual audio)
>Gundam Wing + Endless Waltz
EG (dual audio)
>08th MS Team + Miller's Report
EG (dual audio)
>Gundam X
Central Anime
>Turn A Gundam + Movies
EG (movies use Hong Kong subs)
>Gundam SEED
AHQ
>Gundam SEED HD Remaster
TenB
>Gundam SEED Destiny
AHQ
>Gundam SEED Destiny HD Remaster
Lunamaria
>Gundam SEED Stargazer
nks
>MS IGLOO
OZC for first two OVAs and gg for third
>Gundam 00, First Season
OZC (visually identical to THORA, uses R1 subs and dual audio)
>Gundam 00, Second Season
OZC (visually identical to THORA, uses R1 subs and dual audio)
>Gundam 00, Awakening of the Trailbazer
Elysium (cleaned up gg subs), Cman for dub
>Gundam Unicorn
THORA (dual audio)
>Gunpla Builders
Kira-Fansub
>Gundam AGE + Memory Of Eden
sage
>Gundam Build Fighters
sage
>Gundam Reconguista in G
sage
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>>122017483
>sage
Sage is dead anon, haven't you heard? They did two episodes of G-reco before crapping out.
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>>122017483
Thanks
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>>122017483
>>Gundam ZZ
>EG (look for R1 subtitle patches)
There's a patched torrent out since Thursday.
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=660257
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>>122016601
can we just pretend G-reco didnt happen, im gonan pretend turn-A was his last gundam and that he progressed alot as a writer to the end instead of the huge relapse he suffers in reconguista
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>>Gundam Build Fighters
>sage
>>Gundam Reconguista in G
>sage
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>>122017620
The first season was done by Sage, but Zurako is doing the BDs anyway.
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>>122017580
>can we just pretend G-reco didnt happen
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>generic low level LN adaptions have no problem finding subgroups willing to do it
>Gundam however is so dead in the west it needs to completely rely on CR/Daisuki/Youtube to get subs
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>>122017692
Fansubbing is dying in the West.
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what happened to g-reco subs lately?
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>It is the father of Mecha afterall.
Damn /a/ is so god damn pleb.
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>>122017655
>Zurako is doing the BDs anyway
Over 2 GB per episode though. If people want to do that and have the hard drive space for it, go for it, but that's complete overkill.
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>>122017749
fine, father of real robot
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>You will never rape the Red Comet ;_;
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>>122013757
Fall. It's gonna be a long wait...
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>>122016227
I hope so.
They need to actually animate Amuro and Sayla finally getting it on, after decades of only hinting at it in sublementary material.
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>>122011463
>It is the father of Mecha afterall.
But its not.
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>>122017912
Wait did this really happen? Also guys can't be raped by pretty women
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>>122018032
It probably would have if Casval had shown any sign of weakness.
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>>122017912
>>122018198
Kycilla needs to be dicked badly
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>>122018198
The scene was somewhat hammy but Mayumi Tanaka nailed it.
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>>122018198
>13 years old
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>>122017912
Please don't remind me.
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Certainly I am ashamed to admit it, but I liked G Gundam
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>>122018898
Why would you be ashamed to like an Imagawa anime? He's an incredible director.
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>>122018898
Why would you be ashamed to admit you liked the third best Gundam show?
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>>122018898
Why wouldn't you be ashamed of your own shit taste?
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>>122018251
>>122018251
Does she ever.
And who would deny her it.
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>>122019463
I'll rebuild the Zabi bloodline with her

Too bad she took a RPG to the face
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>>122017692
>[gg] are dead
>we will never know the joys of things like Trans-GrahAM ever again
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>>122018251
She's in the army.
She probably got dicked more than Char's mom and Hamon combined.
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>>122011463
>It is the father of Mecha afterall.
Not really, the father of mecha is Tetsujin 28. Gundam is the father of real robot genre.
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>>122017665
oh god the show actually warns you

oh well, at least its better than stardust memory, not saying much but it doesnt make me want to go into a fit of rage like that heap of trash did.
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>>122018898
ashamed to like a great series
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>>122019591
Imagine being with Zeon security forces at that point. And Kycilla lets you know that she'll ride you like a thoroughbred until your pelvis explodes, if you're up for it (and she'll leave the helmet on).
But Dozle is always looming on the horizon like some kind of cockblocking ogre.
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>>122019808
I'm sure Dozle will be happy that a man is willing to love Kycilla despite her shortcomings
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>>122019808
>she'll ride you
Jesus, what a nightmare. She is one ugly bitch.
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>>122019808
You could probably fool Dozle with a cardboard cutout of Kycilla. Just leave it in the hallway, he'd try to talk to her, get upset she's ignoring him and storm off, and by the time she's finished riding you, he'll forget about it in the first place.
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>>122013737
Most of White Bases objectives were "Go to location or you'll all die."
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>>122019891
Whether Kycilla was canon ugu or not, is still up for debate.
Johnny Ridden seemed to think she was a babe.

Also, who cares, she can just keep the mask on in bed.
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>>122016025
Believe it or not childrens cartoons in the 70's didn't care that much about autistic world building or giving every major character hours upon hours of backstory. Flat two dimensional characters with clear and easy motives was all that was needed back then to sell the show.

Seriously, Zeon is fucking retarded and only is looking like less of a now generic space nazi faction by the tons of supporting works that are stuffed into early UC, Origins being one of the most popular ones.
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>>122020041
Isn't that every Gundam ever

>be a teenager
>find a giant robot
>get stashed to a cookie-cutter crew and ship
>ship needs to go to x, y and z
>final battle is the main enemy stronghold where they hide a superweapon that can wipe out everything
>ending is always understanding, love and peace
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>>122017988
>hinting
They have sex in the novelization. I read a doujin that showed it, and because Sayla didn't give him a good luck charm, he dies.
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>>122020463
>They have sex in the novelization
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>>122012877
Also, the rivalry goes on most of the series before Char even realizes Amuro is some random kid and not a Feddie ace. the lack of voice comms between pilots on opposite side really helps in that regard, even if it does mean that characters spend a lot of time yelling at their cockpits for no reason except general hotbloodedness.
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>>122020463
>because Sayla didn't give him a good luck charm

The infamous pubic hair medallion or whatever?
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>>122020450
>ending is always understanding, love and peace
So you've never watched gundam?
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>>122019605
Just watch 0083 for the glorious mecha porn. Watching the GP02 move in space always makes my nipples rock hard.
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What's the best gundam video games? I loved Gundam Breaker 1. How is 2?
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>>122020523
>>Hey Char, I know you're trying to drop Axis on earth right now. But let me tell you in explicit detail, how I made a woman out of your little sister.
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>>122020547
Is that what people say in story, or is it objectively considered the cause of his death in the larger perspective?

My understanding was that he basically just got punked by a GM, and died.
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>>122020661
>Amuro dumped her for a pleb girl
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>>122020661
I'm going to turn you into a real man.
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Ramba Ral died as Blue balls
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>>122020760
He got shot in the back by a Dom bazooka.
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>>122020822
Wait, you could do that all the time, but didn't even tell me?
Dick move, Lt. Quattro.
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>>122020450
by the final battle, Zeon is basically already done for, though. Those GMs not only outclass all but the ace only Zeon mobile suits, but they're depicted as being much, much more numerous. Once White Base provides the nessecary distraction to allow them to reestablish their spaceborne logistics, the war is over. Amuro could go home and there would still be basically the same end result.
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>be Earth Federation
>get invaded by people from space
>they only have 25% of your manpower
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>Dozle's so ugly that baby Mineva starts crying after seeing his face for the first time in Origin
Most tragic Zabi.
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>>122021394
His daughter ended up with feddies dicks. What a shame.
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>>122017912
>Anonymous
Char was always a pedo
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>>122021198
It's not just that. The GMs and Balls were basically a Zerg rush. Gelgoogs were technologically superior to the Gundam at that point, and the Zeong was a fucking marvel. But because of the long battle against Zeon mobile suits, Feddie troops had become very skilled and used to battle at that point, and could handle relatively shitty weapons like the Ball with ease, while Zeon had their troops dying en masse, with most of their aces dead, and newbies fresh from the academy dropped into the cockpit, not to mention that the Gelgoog's interface was different enough from the Zaku's and the Dom's that the older Zeon aces preferred to stick with their Zaku's for ease of use.
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How did Revil escape from captivity? Do they show it in Origin?
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>>122021180
He would have really made Kamille a girl's name if Kamille gave him the chance.
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>>122021596
Rescued like a little shit.
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>>122021596
Zeon traitors. The Origin has Kycilia behind it.
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>>122021642
>Zeon traitors
But why?
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>>122013505

A/Z seems unintentionally good at inspiring apathy in anime fans nowadays. It's pretty much like Gundam if you took everything out of Gundam that actually made it good like compelling characters, a war scenario that makes sense and doesn't patronize viewers by simplifying the fuck out of a Earth vs Colonies conflict, music that doesn't get too repetitive and over emphasizing of vocal tracks, actually interesting battles that feature more than a couple suits at a time, more than one enemy ace that's remotely threatening to the protagonist, characters over 20 that are competent....the list goes on really.
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>>122021703
I think the Origin made it into some kind of ploy for power by Kycilia. I'd have to reread it to be sure. The entire sequence was rather convoluted, and I was jizzing my pants at the time over Sayla kicking ass in the Texas colony. Something that should also be noted is that Degwin wanted Revil to sue for peace at that time and became furious when Revil gave his "Zeon is Tired" speech.
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>>122021734
I won't be too hard on A/Z because at least the Slaine subplot is pretty entertaining.

If the show were more that and less "Lt. Autism saves the world because everyone else is an incompetent mouthbreather" it'd be pretty decent.
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To all you faggots watching 0079 for the first time, the doujins are required reading as well.
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>>122013737

The White Base is trying to get the Project V units to Jaburo but instead gets forced down into Zeon occupied North America, hence getting bounced around from place to place while avoiding attacks from the likes of Garma and Ramba.
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>>122017958
Hopefully they improve the CG a bit by then, everything else about it was so good, and normally I'm willing to give CG a shot, but christ.
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What's the best time to watch Origin? Should I watch it after I finish 0079, after Zeta, or after everything else Early UC?
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>>122021979
They need to practice making the suits look heavy. I loved the shifting armor panels, but watching bulky Zakus flying around at sanic speeds made me feel that the Zeta and other Waveriders must look like colored streaks.
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>>122017912
Reminder that Kycilla was 24 in 0079
Which means she's 13 years old in 0068.

They probably retconned some of the Zabi's ages, or something.
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>>122014305

One of the biggest differences between Gundam and Aldnoah is that Gundam often feels like its portraying war and conflict as something bad and ultimately undesirable, Aldnoah feels like its portraying war and conflict as a setup for cool action set pieces, blowing up cities with cool music playing in the background and showing how awesome smart and totally cool its emotionless protagonist is who is just too cool to get rattled and show it. Its the difference between a show that started off trying to promote an entirely new and heard of set of ideas and mature themes for an anime based off of the staffs experiences and time working with people like Tezuka Osamu versus a show following in its footsteps and just trying everything it can to be popular and current with otaku. Its also precisely why it'll never surpass it and achieve the same kind of mainstream cultural recognition.
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>>122022043
After the first TV series is fine.
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>>122021394
it's a super common trope in fiction for the child of a warrior to cry in fear upon seeing their father. the earliest example (that i can think of) is in the iliad, with scamandrius shrieking after seeing his armored father hector atop the walls of troy.
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>>122022212
>a piece written by the Boku no Pico guy
>not shaking society to its very core
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>>122022043
Just watch it after 0079 if you want to.
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>>122022288
Hector tries to hold his son while wearing his gore stained helmet, which makes his son cry until he removes his helmet.
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DAILY REMINDER THAT CHAR DID NOTHING WRONG!
HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT SPACENOID EVOLUTION AND HE WASNT A PAEDO
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>>122022775
>HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT SPACENOID EVOLUTION
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>>122022775
>char did nothing wrong
He gave Quess power. On a scale of 1 to Wrong, that's the Tem Ray circuit.
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>>122014427
Banagher is a Cyber
Judau is the strongest
Amuro is the most experienced
Kamille has no real newtype abilities until the end
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>>122023752
>What is his entire romance with Four
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>>122023786
Boring?
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>>122023786
>Also what is the entire confrontation with Haman.
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>>122020774
Fuck I love frilly bloomers.
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>>122019808
>>122020273

>she

He tucks /a/.
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>>122021862
If you ever compare some piece of shit from A/Z to my beloved Frank Underwood again I will cut you.
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