how hype are you?
>black on red
my eyes hurt
>>121907193
I havenever seen evangleion, and I'm saving my first watch for this.
Already ordered them.
I hope they top the all time sales but they're playing crippled because it was so long ago it aired
will the japanese release have english subs? I'm currently on the fence about it, if it does I mignt just pull the trigger
Of course they'll have subs.
how can they do this exactly, i thought the original cels weren't preserved well?
I just want that final movie already mayne after that re-release everything you want I don't give a shit.
>>121907660
>i thought the original cels weren't preserved well?
Similar rumor came about with DNA^2, but yet it was licensed.
So I guess we wait till late 2016 for 4.0.
>>121907193
>evashit
Why are you manchildren from the 90s still hanging around on a kid's image board?
>>121907193
Pretty hype, but old news and my pre-order has been in.
What if some scenes are digitally remastered like LoGH?
>>121907333
checked
pretty hyped, eva's still my favorite anime
>>121908396
Bait/10
>>121908721
>checked
Get the fuck out.
>hype
>regurgitated re-re-release of an old ass series
Pick one.
BRU RAY BOCKS
I am excite because I assume Gainax will attempt to produce a BD like Gunbuster and not like what Sunrise has been doing to Gundam.
>>121907193
Can't wait to torrent it.
>>121908867
If this was just a DVD you'd be 100% spot on.
But it's not.
>>121907333
you can (not) redo that descision
>>121907543
I really hope so, I think the chances are quite high.
Hopefully it looks as nice as Outlaw Star's remaster. Can't wait to finally see the big mecha fights from old Gainax in BD form.
>>121908820
but he's right.
>>121907660
I don't think it does.
>>121909135
Cels don't matter after they've shot them. It's the reels of film that matter, and those were hopefully preserved enough to make a decent transfer. I don't believe companies when they say they don't have the materials anymore, they said that about Lodoss forever and then look what happened.
Where do I preorder? I've never preorded Jappon BDs before.
>>121907193
Seeing how 3.33 is coming up, i'm gonna assume a western release is out of the question
>>121909585
Probably for a good year or more. This is a hot fucking property that reaches beyond regular otakudom and it would be retarded to let the West have a BD out so soon.
>>121909692
Then i'm gonna assume the japenese release will have english subtitles (I've never imported before so i don't know if this is the norm or not). If so then buying this shit will be really tempting.
>>121909969
I doubt they'll include subs or dubs. That's really the one area Japan should try working harder on.
>>121909969
I highly doubt it. Most of the time JP releases have neither. You might wanna brush up on BD authoring and subtitle formats now so you can author add custom subs when the time comes
>>121907193
>yfw they remove the film grain
>>121911076
Why would you like film grain? It is technically noise, no reason for it.
>>121911076
Anno wouldn't let it happen,r-right?
>>121911156
removing it damages the rest of the picture.
>>121911156
Because removing it is worse than leaving it.
>>121911156
And removing it results in detail loss. It's intrinsic to the film, nothing anyone can do about it unless you go back in time and give digital animation to Gainax in 1995.
Not at all. Eva was mediocre and pretentious at best.
>>121911229
I really hope this is bait.
>>121911278
>get series cancelled
>make a shit anime on purpose
>throw in random biblical imagery you don't understand because it looks cool
>dadaist ending because you ran out of budget
Congratulations! You're a genius and everyone will suck your dick for the rest of time.
>>121911156
Would you rather have something like this?
>>121907236
It's the color scheme they largely used for Death and End of Evangelion. I like it.
>>121911746
Is that real? Holy shit...
>>121911396
1/10
>>121911746
That's just sad.
>>121911746
>>121912044
I see you can't refute any of that. Sorry your favorite anime is massively overrated garbage.
>>121911746
Right looks better.
>>121908989
>Gainax
Silly Wallawalla. We Khara now.
>>121912308
CGI would look even better.
>>121907660
Only a very small portion of the FILM of episode 16 was damaged. Those missing parts were completely recreated, even going back and filming some of the original cels again when they were making the Renewal remastering.
>>121912199
When you've actually seen the show and can state anything rooted in fact, then we'll waste time correcting you.
>>121912002
I just have no idea what was going through Disney's heads with the Sword in the Stone BDs.
>>121912485
You can barely even see the radiance on the right.
>>121912199
There's no refuting mental retardation
>>121912485
>>121912523
Looks like what Funimation did to DBZ, but this is fucking DISNEY. You think they of all companies would have their shit together.
>>121912526
That's what makes it so tragic. Look at the crowd, the way all the detail is smudged into simple patterns and shapes. That was all deliberate by whatever psychotic mind was in charge of that travesty.
I just hope the Eva BDs are on-par with how the Gunbuster BDs turned out.
>>121908989
Do the Gundam blu-ray boxes go to shit at some point? I'm watching the original series and the blu-ray seems great so far.
>>121912614
I don't know what's going on with Sword in the Stone. The Peter Pan BDs aren't bad at all. This isn't a great rip, but it's certainly not a colossal mess like those SitS caps are.
>>121912723
Looks a little soft, but that may be an effect of it being 16mm rather than an abundance of DNR.
>>121912614
Perhaps the worst part is, people who don't usually pay attention to what to them is a nuance in quality will get the idea that those BD releases ARE what is good. I guess it's like certain fashions, where even if something realistically looks totally shit or stupid, the fact that a brand name is associated with it negates that poor quality. Unfortunately that seems to be the mindset present in modern art in general, though.
>>121912797
It's still DVNR'd to a certain agree, but nowhere near as bad as that or Aristocats. Cinderella and Lady and the Tramp are mostly the same as PP there, and it's really not until the Fox and the Hound and Little Mermaid that they release BDs that don't look awful.
>>121910169
>>121910953
The big dumb overpriced Gurren Lagann blu-ray box had subs and dubs, so it wouldn't be unprecedented.
![Nadia_The_Secret_of_Blue_Water_Ep01_Girl_at_the_Eiffel_Tower_[1080p,BluRay,x264,flac]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_13.54_[2015.03.01_08.14.17].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gRXnqv5.jpg "Nadia_The_Secret_of_Blue_Water_Ep01_Girl_at_the_Eiffel_Tower_[1080p,BluRay,x264,flac]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_13.54_[2015.03.01_08.14.17].jpg")
The Nadia BDs look pretty damn good.
>>121912936
It doesn't hurt that Nadia was shot on 35mm.
>>121912851
DBZ is stuck in that mess -- Funimation has trained their mass market fans that 'cropped to 16:9 and filtered' is the way to go ever since the orange brick DVDs in 2007, so releases like the Levels (pic related) get canned because those same mass market people cry 'muh black bars' and '4:3 isn't HD', and and this >>121911181 becomes a best seller.
>>121912855
Yeah, it may just be that their older movies' film stock wasn't preserved very well.
At least their 90s movies that were mastered digitally like Aladdin managed to turn out great.
I just wish I could find good rips of the rest of the Disney lineup. It's sad how shitty so many rips of their BDs are. It's either some Italian rip, or fucking Yify garbage.
>>121912936
Nadia was a rarity for TV anime in that it was shot entirely on 35mm film. 35mm is usually reserved only for high-budget OVAs and movies.
>>121912970
>>121912989
Eva is 16mm, right?
>>121912909
I think Aniplex helped backed TTGL's dub and US release originally, so that's why. Same with Fate/Zero and KLK. I dunno what Gainax/Khara's involvment with Eva's original US release was like.
>>121913036
Yep, as is virtually every show. Some older ones got shot on 8mm which results in the effect of watching anime in a hail of golfballs.
![[REVO]Gunbuster 02[1080p] [BFEBE822].mkv_20141127_111357.875.png](https://i.imgur.com/AyXlAT3.jpg "[REVO]Gunbuster 02[1080p] [BFEBE822].mkv_20141127_111357.875.png")
>>121913036
Yes. The OP and ED were shot with 35mm, since those were going to be played over and over. But the bulk of the show was just 16mm. So the BDs should have a graininess similar to the early episodes of Gunbuster.
>>121913062
>8mm anime
good god
>>121908852
Unfortuantly GETS have yet to phase out of /a/ culture, unlike many of the more respectable boards.
>>121913091
>>121913062
The only things that were likely shot on 8mm would be super cheap stuff from the 60s. And then it was pretty much all 16mm until the mid-90s when budgets started going up, so shows like Escaflowne and Gundam Wing appear to be 35mm.
>>121913091
There was very, very little animation shot with 8mm at a professional level past 1965 in Japan. About the most famous animation you'd see on 8mm would be Gainax's Daicon shorts.
>>121913187
>TWIIIILIIIIIIGHT
>I ONLY MEANT TO STAY AWHIIIIIILE
thanks anon, now it's stuck in my head
While we're here, can someone explain to me why a lot of early 2000's to around 2010 anime have terrible quality? It's mostly slice of life shows and stuff. For example, I'm watching the Aria series at the moment and the quality is pretty bad, was it and other shows never released on bluray
Personally, I don't mind film grain, and I actually kind of like it in a lot of cases.
>>121913187
>>121913230Densha Otoko was over a decade ago, along with Daicon
>>121913287
I'm pretty sure a lot of early digital anime was made specifically in NTSC format, i.e. FLCL or Initial D's first couple series. So the masters are in SD and there's nothing to be done. Someone correct me but i think GITS:SAC was the first digital TV anime shot in HD?
>>121913287
The early 2000s were seeing the beginning of mass-produced digitally-colored and rendered anime. Many artists and directors didn't know how to deal with it, so a lot of them have horrible, over saturated colors and very little detail.
There's also the fact that because they were mastered digitally at the standard of the time, 480p, there is no film to go back to for easy remastering to a high definition.
>>121913287
Even today it's surprisingly rare for digital shows to be mastered at 1920x1080, in fact 720p is still not always targeted.
>>121913350
Yeah, NTSC-J was generally used directly rather than mixed down to. It's a fucking horrendous workflow.
>>121911746
>>121912485
>>121912523
I actually bought this after somehow missing the reviews and holy shit was I mad that they butchered this.
The widescreen crop is unfortunate as well, but a lot of the time animated films were done in 4:3 but matted for theatrical showings. In that sense cropping it isn't entirely incorrect, but for the prices Disney charges they should offer both aspect ratios.
>>121913409
>someone paid $30 for a Sword in the Stone BD
Holy shit imagine their disappointment once they put it in the player.
>>121913409
Well, the theaters at the time of SitS release were still playing movies in 4:3. It wasn't until the late 40s that wide screen really started to become popular and it really exploded in the 50s as a must-have feature for cinemas, since it was something televisions of the time couldn't replicate.
>>121913409
To me, if something was produced in 4:3, I don't care about the intended aspect for viewing, I want as much image as I can get. Besides, animators labored to draw that stuff, so cutting it out is just an insult to their work.
>>121913374
>>121913391
>>121913350
Thanks for the replies, I enjoy these informative threads. It's a shame that so many shows from the last 15 years will never be available to us above 480p. It's also a shame that few TV anime even now are made in natural 1080, I can name nyaruko-san because IIRC it was the first, but not much else.
>>121913523
Yeah. At least we're getting more and more fantastic BD remasterings of older, film-shot anime. Like Lodoss here, what went from this...
![[ReinForce] Lodoss-tou Senki - 05 (BDRip 1436x1080 x264 FLAC).mkv_20140406_115237.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/20uGNgB.jpg "[ReinForce] Lodoss-tou Senki - 05 (BDRip 1436x1080 x264 FLAC).mkv_20140406_115237.jpg")
>>121913584
...to this.
>>121913584
>>121913615
glorious...
Did somebody say DVNR?
>>121913523
Delicious top tier BD releases are even better when you know about the tech behind them.
>>121913636
Oh god, please no more.
>>121913453
Only like $17, so it could have been worse.
>>121913494
I actually agree, but that's the reasoning I've heard for cropping. Snow White looks pretty damn good and they even included a special pillarbox option with it.
>>121913615
>film grain
>>121913584
>>121913615
>>121913630
While not as staggering, here's a comparison of the 1999 DBZ DVD and Kai. I'm really hoping the DB franchise as a whole gets a decent BD release soon, quality like Kai with less DNR would be absolutely gorgeous.
>>121913733
Where?
![[ReinForce] Lodoss-tou Senki - 05 (BDRip 1436x1080 x264 FLAC).mkv_20140402_125152.658.png](https://i.imgur.com/8gDNfrJ.jpg "[ReinForce] Lodoss-tou Senki - 05 (BDRip 1436x1080 x264 FLAC).mkv_20140402_125152.658.png")
>>121913722
>hating on film grain
You go fuck yourself, kid.
>>121913733
forgot pic
>>121913615
Breath taking.
>>121913783
>eyes drawn over hair
>>121913745
Grain is delicious, I was just thinking of starting Lodoss.
I've been told that Kyoani shows are the "closest" to natural 1080p, the Hyouka BDs do look amazing.
>>121913745
>Deed getting mad at not receiving enough attention
>>121913819
Yeah man, hair is totally opaque wherever it hangs and no matter how dense it may be.
>>121913830
>Hyouka
One of the best looking shows in recent memory. And super comfy
>>121913783
Incidentally, here's that shot of Pirotess from the DVD. Not nearly as miscolored as the shot of Deedlit.
>>121913745
For comparison's sake.
>>121913963
How did the colors get so off?
While I'm at it, here's some Outlaw Star.
>>121913978
It got even worse in Welcome to Lodoss Island, here's a shot of Deedlit in it.
I already have it on DVD. No point in buying a bluray of a show originally shot in standard def.
>>121913978
Most anime DVDs of the time were sourced from generational digibeta tapes. Digibeta tapes had a habit of looking like shit.
>>121913978
The DVD was likely made from a BetaMax, or DigiBeta tape. They were horrible at maintaining good quality and color consistency. Which is why remastering, that is going back to the master film reels, started to become a thing with DVDs. That's carried over even better with the high-definition capabilities of Blu-Ray.
>>121914012
Ugh. God I hated Chronicles of the Heroic Knight.
Yeah, the OP is forever God-tier, but the show itself was a colossal mess. By the end, the best part about it was the Lodoss Island shortsdubbed.
![[EG]Outlaw_Star_01_BD(1080p_10bit_DualAudio)[453F0FF4].mkv_20141227_101254.650.png](https://i.imgur.com/jRz39bv.jpg "[EG]Outlaw_Star_01_BD(1080p_10bit_DualAudio)[453F0FF4].mkv_20141227_101254.650.png")
>>121914016
>shot in standard def
NGE was shot on film, meaning the resolution is infinite. At certain resolutions you'll stop seeing a significant increase in detail , e.g. 1080p is about the highest 16mm will yield
>>121913995
>>121914033
Outlaw Star is interesting because they actually remastered it before on DVD. Though that's R1 on the left.
>>121914098
>meaning the resolution is infinite
>>121907193
What's in this box? The anime and the EoE?
>>121914128
Well, 'technically' infinite. It's analog so there's no hard numbers. But like I said there's a point digitally where you don't see anymore detail by increasing resolution.
>>121914062
Personally, I didn't really care for the OP but liked the ED.
![[EG]Outlaw_Star_01_BD(1080p_10bit_DualAudio)[453F0FF4].mkv_20141227_100457.521.png](https://i.imgur.com/rMrPoT9.jpg "[EG]Outlaw_Star_01_BD(1080p_10bit_DualAudio)[453F0FF4].mkv_20141227_100457.521.png")
>>121914109
Yeah, the DVD comparisons are from the crappy old OS DVDs I bought years before they made the remastering.
It didn't suck as much as when I bought the Berserk Box of War set for what I thought was a bargain(55 bucks, when it usually went for nearly 80 at the time) and literally two weeks later, the remastered DVD was announced. Which would sell for under 40 dollars.
>>121914139
TV series, Death(true^2), and EoE. I think the original D&R may also be included.
>>121907193
Very.
>>121914139
I think it's the series, D&R and EoE.
will these japanese sets have English subtitles?
![[EG]Outlaw_Star_02_BD(1080p_10bit_DualAudio)[2B7F131C].mkv_20141226_231243.705.png](https://i.imgur.com/UKyZr8t.jpg "[EG]Outlaw_Star_02_BD(1080p_10bit_DualAudio)[2B7F131C].mkv_20141226_231243.705.png")
>>121914128
>>121913963
Are they related?
>>121907193
Truly Evangelion is Star Wars of anime, and Anno japanese Lukas.
>>121913523
I believe that Majimoji Rurumo was in 1080. But I would like to know what others were done in 1080 for their bds.
Wasn't this thread supposed to be about Eva BDs?
I just hope RX782 isn't too busy to encode them when they come out.
>>121914074
That's too clean, looks like a digital shot of the cel.
>>121914242
I'm sure there will be plenty of good competition for the encodes, can't wait to see the quality.
Has anyone ever put together a master list of which old anime blu-rays are good and which are shit? I feel like for every Lodoss War and Gunbuster, there's an Initial D or Sailor Moon to counter it.
Trigun BD when?
>>121914368
There was a pastebin listing old film-shot anime that had come out or was announced to come out on BD. But I don't think it was organized to the point of listing which ones had good quality or not.
>>121914216
Not a bad comparison as far as business models go.
>>121914391
City hunter bd when?
>>121914368
>>121914412
http://pastebin.com/mJhzwwHt
There's that old list, but it's more about the sources themselves.
