Daily reminder that all the katanas in your anime are made of what superior European sword smiths would refer to ass "pig iron" and is completely shit tier.
To love-ru is garbage, absolute garbage
can't find this gif erotic because of the disgusting snowman comic
there are still sword smiths in europoor?? holy fuck haven't you guys ever heard of guns and tanks and whatnot? lol no wonder you still live in castles and still have queens and everything. you guys pretty much NEVER developed from the dark ages
If the japanese can make a superior tool out of pig iron than britbongs can make out of the finest metal in the continent, I say job well done.
>>121785556
Not really, they're just so far advanced that they can afford the luxury of employing trained experts to build things with no practical purpose at all.
It's called being an industrialized country.
>>121785558
I don't get what trying to cut a tool meant to break bones with a tool meant to slice through them says about either tool.
>>121785566
refer to
>>121785558
>>121785558
>posting the fake version
>>121785616
refer to
>>121785603
The katana even made a clean half-centimeter-long cut in the big sword. You look me in the eye and say that isn't amazing.
>>121785603
>>121785603
that the katana is a shit tier sword compared to even 1000AD European sword
>>121785556
Let's not be too unfair; France did have a revolution after all.
England are the laughing stock; those idiots still worship kings and queens. They get outrageous amounts of money from the government, don't pay taxes, and do absolutely nothing.
>>121785650
>top of the katana blade sails off in an arc with no animation
>>121785558
>wielding a katana like a longsword
Stupid gaijins
>>121785669
>if I drop a CRT TV onto a big LCD screen the LCD is destroyed therefore the CRT is the better TV
>>121785662
>>121785662
>he hasnt seen the other half of the gif where the swords are swapped and it cuts right through
Is this a to love ru thread or medieval /k/ bitching
>>121785704
But the CRT is a better TV
>>121785461
Daily reminder that all your European surrender cuck swords cannot beat the Patton Saber.
Patton Saber>Katana>Filthy peasant-raping tier metal stick
>>121785713
Well yes, a boulder can smash through a paper sliding door.
>>121785718
/k/ > love-ru
>>121785696
This. Everyone knows you keep it sheathed, do some ultra slash combo in half a second, then sheath it again, then whatever you sliced will look intact but actually be in pieces.
>>121785650
>>121785650
>he posts the fake version
>>121785588
Tell that to Saudia Arabia faggot.
>>121785774
Why are you quoting the wrong gif, nigger?
>>121785718
This is a shitposting thread.
>implying the starting material matters when you can fold it over 1000 times
Do you even nip?
>>121785850
>implying it wouldnt snap in half when hit with a broadsword even if you folded it it 10 times that
Wait.. what's wrong with pig iron? Takes a bit more effort to turn it into high quality steel, but it's still fucking iron.
You know what's supposed to be folded?
Paper
Real swords can't be folded at all
>>121785924
Refer to:
>>121785558
>>121785924
dude its like he lowest quality metal by European standards of the same era
>>121785913
Why would you have your sword out to be hit? If an enemy charges at you, jump over him and slice his head off in one sweep.
>>121785969
>>121785980
Pig iron is an unfinished product, of course it is. Europeans weren't even making quality steel in the Medieval and Renaissance eras. They were getting Wootz steel from India.
>>121785924
It's the .jpg of irons. Sure you can use it, but you really wanna use a better format if you have the chance.
>>121785527
You mean the tasteful picture book by master artist Hoshino Fuuta?
>>121785704
>TVs are weaponsDon't start some /pol/ shit.
>>121786041
All iron is the .jpg of irons until it goes through the refinement processes necessary to turn it into quality steel.
>>121785718
We have a TLR thread up.
>>121785913
>implying a superior nipponjin samurai and his iaijutsu would even touch the pleb's broadword while chopping his head off in one strike
>>121785798
To-Love-Ru is a poor man's Urusei Yatsura.
they both seem effective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo
>>121786105
A longsword isn't going to be in contact with a katana in combat so it is as pointless to compare as the other thing.
>>121785461
That's a common misconception actually
While it's true that the pig iron has more carbon than the European counterparts, after proper refining, the end results are often just as strong as any western metalworks
If proper physics were to be the judge, the Katana will always win against the Longsword mainly because the single edge gives it a stronger backbone. Furthermore, the curve design grants it the ability to concentrate the slice into a single point which, at the same time, also prevents it from 'biting' into bones.
There is a reason why the west switched from the straight swords into the curved, single edge ones like the Cutlass and Sabres. It just happened that the Japs figured it out sooner.
>>121786306
actually it was because of horses. The Japanese process of refinement and metallurgy were both shit tier. Also reminder that 99% of katanas were folded 8 times max
>>121786398
And 99% of the desktop market runs a proprietary operating system.
>>121786398
>actually it was because of horses
The Cutlass was not meant for mounted battles
>>121785461
You don't understand Japanese sword isn't strong because of the iron or how many times is folded It's strong because they are made to fuse with the spirit of a skilled swordman at the hands of skilled swordman both the spiritl of the katana and swordman will cut through anything
>>121786398
Japanese metallurgy was curated and blessed by shinto priests you faggot
>>121786568
The cutlass is a naval sword designed for slashing through rope, but sabers are designed for the purpose of sweeping down at foot soldiers from a whorse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLWzH_1eZsc
>>121786605
A whorse?
How much do you pay those per hour?
>>121786605
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutlass#History
>Cutlasses are famous for being used by pirates, although there is no reason to believe that Caribbean buccaneers invented them, as has sometimes been claimed.[5] However, the subsequent use of cutlasses by pirates is well documented in contemporary sources, notably by the pirate crews of William Fly, William Kidd, and Stede Bonnet. French historian Alexandre Exquemelin reports the buccaneer Francois l'Ollonais using a cutlass as early as 1667. Pirates used these weapons for intimidation as much as for combat,
>but sabers are designed for the purpose of sweeping down at foot soldiers from a whorse
A longsword has longer reach than a sabre
>>121786684
Whorty Dollars.
>>121786703
dat angle though
Katanas are over rated as fuck.
A knight with a long sword would destroy a samurai
>>121786675
He seems to be missing the point that osamurai don't use the same kind of sword a sergeant would use.
>>121785704
That's amusing. Because CRTs actually offer much better quality than LCDs.
The only thing LCDs and plasma have over it is the smaller size.
The only thing that rivals CRTs are the non-cheat version of LED displays.
>>121785461
>European sword smiths would refer to ass "pig iron" and is completely shit tier.
It's the same fucking iron as you can find anywhere in Europe. The Japs had bad ore, not bad iron.
Didn't the nips import steel and exploit nations they conquered for ore like every other island empire?
>>121789310
Eizo FG2421 and FDF2405W
Panasonic ZT60
>>121785461
What about my waifu's katana? Forged by youkai, the things Roukanken can't cut are next to none.
>using weapons
So, what if they forged a katana made from really good steel?
Basically, jap smiths had to do a shitload of work just to make a decent sword, and even then the blades broke and bended to the point that the samurai never even parried with them out of fear that the sword would become useless.
>>121786306
That's because the way a longsword is used is different from a katana's use.
War evolved in two different directions, and it's normal, after all Europe and Japan are kind of far away, especially at a time when neither train nor plane existed.
That's what's called having a different culture.
>>121785685
Those aren't real kings and queens, those are simply quaint leftovers from their heritage. They're a luxury item which they can afford to indulge in.
>>121785514
because it was forged by the japanese
/a/ - swordfighting
>>121790906
Not really.
Contradictory to popular belief, the Samurais trained in mounted archery and their melee weapon is the Naginata. The Katana is purely a ceremonial weapon used only as a last line of defense. Swordsmen in Japan are looked down upon because, technically speaking, they consider the Katana as merely subclass of the polearms.
Such were their disdain for the swords that they never invented shields to accommodate it.
In feudal Japan, the archers rule, followed by the spearmen. Swords are used only as a desperate measure, or for hijacking ships.
I can't tell why it is gaining popularity now but I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with the fact that swords are seen as a symbol of authority
>>121791006
Nevertheless, the design of the katana is better than the longsword.
>>121791982
Blame sacred_blacksmith.gif
>>121792240
A bread knife and a larding knife have different use. A cook wouldn't think about comparing the two.
Likewise, a longsword and a katana have different use. They can't be "objectively" compared, it's all a matter of taste and the way the people prefer to fight.
There's no better one, they're too different.
>>121785558
The opposite happens in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo
I'm not sure which one to believe. I'd say both are a little biased. The katana in the gif could've been shit tier and the same could apply to the Europoor sword in the video too.
>>121792391
That does not mean that I can't compare them now, can I?
The only advantage that I see in the longsword is the reach and the fact that it can be used for halfswording...which is good against armor. But in terms of flexibility and endurance, curve swords still fares better than the straight swords. (The thrusting swords are a different topic though)
>>121792669
Thrusting swords best.
I came across the Patton saber wiki article a few weeks back for reasons I can't remember and Patton said this in a report on the weapon:
>The French dragoons, on the contrary, used only the point which, with their long straight swords caused almost always a fatal wound. This made the English protest that the French did not fight fair.
This part made me think of someone screaming in French at the English "GIT GUD".
>>121785850
>implying celts and the norse did the same thing a thousand years earlier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_welding
>>121790697
Can't cut the hunger of her master.
>>121785461
shouldnt this be in /k/?
>>121785913
You're supposed to strike at the enemy not at his sword you dumb gaijin. How are you going to loot the sword off his corpse if you break it?
>>121792843
wow
such quality
much sharp
>>121792825
>Thrusting swords best.
Yup. No doubt about it.
History shows that while cutting is messy, stabs are the death sentence. (I would prefer a spear as a personal preference though)
>>121792970
>I would prefer a spear
Dark Souls has a pretty good representation of how katanas are supposed to work I'd say (outside of silly things like the washing pole, obviously). They excel at cutting flesh (i.e bleeding the opponent), but break very easily.
>>121792970
>>121792997
>implying halberds/poleaxes aren't the best melee weapons of all time
Militar style non-asian sabre ftw, all your waifus are shit
1400-1600s Yurop had full plate armor, had reached the pinnacle of combat with two-handed swords (and those were rendered totally obsolete against plate armor), had the most brutal two-handed weapons, the most effective infantry formations, the most effective bows and archers, and both the toughest and light cavalry as well as the most effective light cavalry. There were so many warriors they ran out of wars and went mercenary. Swiss mercs were so good other nations would get into bidding wars just to NOT fight them.
Japan, really the rest of the world, was left in Europe's dust. Hence why it was Europe curbstomping and exploiting other civilizations around the globe and not the other way around. Much like the curbstomping USA does today.
>>121792825
>>121792970
>>121792997
>>121793259
Finally, some people who understands warfare. Not even /k/ will admit that cutting swords are useless as shit
>katanas
>>121793763
>implying real life people can even use this thing
>>121786844
Puny plate armour wouldn't stand a chance against a japanese Katana.
Unlike other weapons the Japanese Katana is folded over 15.000 times and it's edge is grinded down
to atomthin sharpness.
Experts agree on the fact that warriors who double wielded this mighty weapon, had the strength
of 60 solidiers on the battlefield.
The Japanese Katana was clearly designed to cut through plates of hardned steel
, multiple kilometers in thickness.
It is still used in modern combat, for example in the bombing of Russia in 1995 when
japanese pilots threw Japanese Katanas out of the planes. The huge impact of these swords
caused explosions with 180 million megatons of explosions.
There is no other weapon that can beat the Japanese Katana.
>>121793471
Yeah they curbstomped the phillipines so badly they banned their fighting styles out of fear.
>>121793805
>implying it was meant to be used by humans in the first place
>>121793805
You're on /a/ not on /k/ faggot
>>121792187
The Naginata was known as a weapon only used by women.
>>121792825
>>121792970
>Thrusting swords best
Which kind of sword do you prefer? Personally, I consider the rapier the epitome of design/functionality. I just can't take the small sword seriously, even if it is more effective.
>>121794058
That only started on the Edo period - the introduction of guns. The Naginata was used by the Samurais in a large part of Japanese history
>>121793952
You're not wrong, but this thread is discussing actual weapons. There's no point in a Gutsposter coming in and flopping his dick on the table.
>>121794058
>The Naginata was known as a weapon only used by women.
No, but a lot of female warriors did use it because it didn't rely so much on the wielder's strength.
>>121794251
>>121794325
>female warriors
>warriors
>female
>>121794363
My Nigga, wars aren't won by special snowflakes with fance blades
>>121794363
That and a big ol' shield. Throw in some spears and you got a damn near unstoppable melee force.
>>121794308
>Daily reminder that all the katanas in your anime are made of what superior European sword smiths would refer to ass "pig iron" and is completely shit tier.
>in your anime
My point was that most blades in anime are not katanas but oversized hunks of iron.
>>121794392
Not common, but not entirely unknown.
>>121794392
They were few, but they existed.
>>121793471
Weird that you aren't meant to take pride in this in today's culture
>>121794504
what a cutie, nice cosplay
>>121794449
This "unstoppable melee force" was absolutely useless against any kinds of easterners like Parthia/Sassanids/Huns/Abbasids/Ottomans.
>>121794504
>>121794325
>>121794058
>tfw no Naginata-wielding waifu.
>>121794545
Say that again once she started putting bamboo splices underneath your fingernails
>>121794600
Nigga she's barely 4 feet tall - I think i'll be ok.
>>121785735
Surprised to see somebody with actual good taste in cavalry sabres.
>>121794631
>she's barely 4 feet tall
She was folded a thousand times, nigga. She will pull your dick out so hard your intestines will come crawling out
>>121792846
Can anything?
>>121794549
All I know is, you give me a scutum, and it's gonna take at least 2 guys to bring me down. The short thrusting blade means when I come in close fucking your game up even more with my big shield, I'm also more deadly. The spears are for when you're in formation. Shit's pretty tight.
>>121794549
They were defeated mostly because of tactical incompetence, horse archers are weak against foot archers.
And they suck at mountanous terrain.
Wasn't a decent chunk of Europe stuck with bog iron that was just as shit as Japanese iron sand?
>>121794716
You realize the samurai's main combat role was doing horseback drive-bys with bows- the KATANANA crap mostly came into vouge when all the actual fighting was over.
Jesus, they are weapons with different purposes, you can't compare them.
Imagine you have a longsword in one side and a katana in the other, suddenly one crazy dude shows up trying to kill you with a knife, if the crazy dude has an armor you chose the longsword, if he doesn't have an armor you chose the katana.
>>121794549
Ottomans got fucking shut down at malta though
>>121794954
You realize that the main use of weapons wasn't wars but self-defense. You can't always carry a horse and a fuckhuge bow with you.
>>121792825
>giving a shit about swords when you can use polearms
>>121785461
>gif
>>121794986
I'd choose a saber in either scenario.
You simply cannot improve upon the french method of sword fighting.
Mad Jack fought with a broad sword for the UK on WW 2
The Allies won WW2
Japan lost WW2
Therefore, Broadswords are superior.
>>121794986
I wouldn't need a weapon in the first place if the guy judt had a knife.
>>121785650
>katana transforms into short sword in closeup.
So that's how they get the katana to preform so well. It becomes not shit when actually hitting something.
>>121795142
People ain't using longsword in ww2 u fkg nignog.
>>121795543
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill
>>121795568
>Churchill gave the signal to attack by cutting down the enemy Feldwebel (sergeant) with a barbed arrow, becoming the only British soldier known to have felled an enemy with a longbow in WWII.
>As the ramps fell on the first landing craft, Churchill leapt forward from his position playing "March of the Cameron Men"[12] on his bagpipes, before throwing a grenade and running into battle in the bay.
Alpha as fuck.
>>121785461
Considering raw materials to finished product, the Japanese smiths simply devoted more effort to their craft.
The Europeans manage better final products because they don't need to invest half their craft into making Iron worth fabricating with.
Stop with the dick waving contest, comparing the same level of craftsmen gives no significant edge to one side or the other.
>>121785685
>They get outrageous amounts of money from the government, don't pay taxes, and do absolutely nothing.
So like all politicians.
>>121785461
tamahagane isnt pig iron, its actually very high quality steel for premodern society
>>121790830
Europeans new all about those blade folding methods but they weren't used because it wasn't worth the effort. Good steel, proper fuller and few other thing were enough to make a sword with decent combat ability and were much faster than folding it.
>>121786306
>There is a reason why the west switched from the straight swords into the curved, single edge ones like the Cutlass and Sabres.
Yes, because people stopped wearing armour since firearms rendered it ineffective.
Europeans used curved swords at least since the 7th century, they were mostly popular for a civilian context though, not for war where usually heavy armour was worn.
>>121795028
>not using both
Look at this pleb.
>>121790906
Not blocking and not parrying are two completely different things. Entire schools of Jap swordsmanship revolve around a parry-strike technique. You appear to be genuinely retarded.
>herp derp what are oji-waza
Can't wait to see this guy lose in round two because his sword got bent by superior European fairy steel.
>>121792585
>The katana in the gif could've been shit tier and the same could apply to the Europoor sword in the video too.
It wasn't shit tier, it was made with imported steel in a historical fashion. The katana used in your video is a Paul Chen replica made of modern steel. The longsword they used was a blunt training weapon, made of modern steel too.
If you look how katana are structured this is the result to expect. Katana have a very hard and brittle steel edge and an iron spine. If you hit something that is comparably hard, then the edge might chip away, leaving only the soft back which is eager to bend under such force.
>>121793471
So how well did you do against the composite bow, faggot?
>GOLDEN HORDE MASTERRACE
>>121797463
European swords on the other hand aren't just hardened, they are also tempered, giving them a more springy structure. They're less hard on average but they can withstand an impact easily by being flexible. This also means that they can be made thinner, giving them more acute points that can easily be thrust into gaps of an enemy armour - not to mention allows for swords like rapiers to be made, which would be impossible with a Japanese technique.
>>121797590
>implying you could pierce plate armour with a puny bow
>>121794631
if orcs could still be a threat with slightly better equipment at the same height then she could do you in.
