How come no one put Naruto and Sasuke in therapy? Why did they let everyone in the village treat Naruto like shit knowing he was a potential threat, and why did they let Sasuke roam around in his clan alone all day crying all the time?
The writer needed them to grow up edgy, if they had a decent childhood he'd have to come up with something else.
it was just easier i guess.
They let Sasuke sulk around by himself all day after his family killed and everyone was surprised when he decided to say fuck the leaf and left.
The writing is fucking terrible
I've honestly never heard of therapy clinics being a thing in Japan.
Another thing though, who the hell took care of babby nardo? was it the 3rd? did they just decide to kick him out when he was old enough to feed himself?
>>120571610
Because this guy.
>>120571610
because they have to be le edge dark boiz
You start to feel for Sasuke when you start to factor in the fact that everyone seemed to ignore him just as much as they did Naruto, except instead of bullying everyone thought he was "2cool" to be approached or some dumb shit like that
Everything was going alright until Orochimaru showed up.
>>120572091
Sasuke would have ended up bro-tier if Orochimaru didn't fuck things up.
>>120572145
>uchiha
>bro-tier
as soon as their eyehax kick in, they start murdering people, better hope they're busy tunnelvisioning someone else
>>120571864
Probably had some random ninja maid take care of him or some shit.
Why were they so mean to Naruto anyway? In every other village they seemed to be really nice to their tailed beast kids, or atleast they were smart enough not to beat the shit out of them everytime they tried to speak
>>120572252
>Probably had some random ninja maid take care of him or some shit.
just irks me they never bothered to explain who it was that managed not to give a shit about babby nardo to the point where they are never even mentioned or remembered.
>Why were they so mean to Naruto anyway? In every other village they seemed to be really nice to their tailed beast kids
eighto - brother of hokage/hero
bubbles - unpopular missing-nin weirdo
gaaaara - everyone avoided him and wanted him dead
fuu - too a cute to hate even though she was a creepy bug
nardo - 9tails already got out and killed a bunch of ninja including hokage, they feared that thing more than they cared about naruto
the rest - who knows
>>120572193
Shisui was a bro until the end, it's possible
>>120572543
yeah i thought about giving him an honorable mention, he's the only uchiha that didn't go nuts from eyehax. on the other hand he died pretty young.
>>120572690
Probably because his eyehax could only be used every decade.
>>120572252
They didn't chill with Naruto, some didn't want their kids to hang out with him, while others didn't do anything. Heck, he even had friends before the academy, Kiba, Shikamaru, and Choji were his bros. Honestly, it always feels like Naruto exaggerates his situation.
I grew tired of Naruto when they became adults but I never understood
> There is the kyubi and is killing everyone
> Our Hokage, our hero sacrifices himself and his son to save us
> Let's abandon his son and treat him like shit
I mean why no one adopted him or something like that, they just left Naruto to his luck
>>120573430
im not sure if they actually knew he was the hokages offspring and not just some kid they used to dump the kyuubi in
>>120573430
Or, the little shit who has the kyuubi inside of him. I told my kids to stay away from him, and I stay away from him because we never know if his nine tails will come out.
>He starts pulling tricks and shit around the village.
WELL HE'S AN ANNOYING SHIT NOW.
>>120571610
A lot of things bother me in Naruto, but the number one thing has got to be how more people couldn't put together the connection between Naruto and the fourth.
- Blonde hair
- Blue eyes
- Favored by the third
- Kakashi's genin
- Apprenticed to Jiraiya
I mean, really? Come on. All the current clan heads were the same as when Minato was in power, too. Does Kishi expect us to believe they weren't capable of doing 1+1?
What would be especially fucked is if they knew, and didn't do anything. Naruto was malnourished as fuck.
Kakashi especially pisses me off. He was rolling in regrets, and here he has his Sensei's son, the man who treated HIM like a son, and he ignored Naruto for 12 years. Jiraiya and The Third had legitimate excuses, I have no idea what the fuck Kakashi was doing though. Did the author ever explain where Kakashi was? I mean, really?
>>120571610
>Why did they let everyone in the village treat Naruto like shit knowing he was a potential threat, and why did they let Sasuke roam around in his clan alone all day crying all the time?
Because they never realized the screaming pain, hearing loud in their brain.
>>120572145
More like if Itachi hadn't shown up, curbstomped Sasuke and the person in charge of making him stronger, mindraped him and told him that he was weak, that he needed to get more hatred and that he was only interested in the person he was having inferiority issues to.
>>120573956
the purposefully kept his identity as much of a secret as they could because the fourth literally went full genocide on konohas enemies in the second war.
>>120574055
top kek
>>120573956
Kakashi was anbu, remember?
>>120574143
>They kept his identity as much of a secret as they could
And apprenticing him to Kakashi and Jiraiya helps this..how?
- Lets him sign the toad contract
- Teaches him rasengan
They sure weren't doing a good job then. You've got this miniature Minato clone running around using some of his more well known techniques at 12 and a half. They had a bad plan.
>>120574183
You're free to leave ANBU at any time. Also, I'm pretty sure Kakashi joined ANBU after the Kyuubi incident, not before.
>>120574275
He's right, he's also had enough time to send back several children to the Academy, meaning he's been at this for a while
>>120574275
>And apprenticing him to Kakashi and Jiraiya helps this..how?
hey i never said they were subtle, only that it was stated that the reason to keep narutos identity a secret was to protect him from the fallout of konohas great white hope's killing spree.
and to be fair, best guy taught him the rasengan(aka the other jutsu naruto knows) because he wanted him to be strong enough to kick some akatsuki ass.
still, i'm sure even choji and akamaru knew by the end of the first season... Kichi definitely slacked his way through this
>>120574522
>To be fair, best guy taught him the rasengan because he wanted him to be strong enough
I'm not complaining that he taught him it, only that he taught it to him while still "attempting" to keep his identity a secret.
Why DID they let Sasuke live alone? Did no one care about the fact that his whole family died?
>>120573956
Kakashi was a PTSD-riddled mess who barely had any friends other than Guy challenging him to competitions all the time, and was probably afraid of getting close to anyone because of his loved ones' bad habit of dying horribly.
He wouldn't even know how to help Naruto.
>>120574892
The Uchiha weren't actually that popular before they were slaughtered, and then they tried to start a coup against the village. Also Sasuke probably wants to live where he does, because being taken care of might make him weak or some shit.
>>120574892
>"Here's your new apartment kid, you have two days to get all your stuff out of your family's ghetto. We are turning that place into a mini-mall as soon as we get all the blood cleaned out"
>>120575082
Yeah, but you have a kid who watched his whole family get murdered by his brother and no one even thought "hey maybe we should help this kid out he might go fucking crazy". I understand being a little hesitant to help Naruto out, but getting Sasuke some much needed therapy would have been great
>>120575082
Who cares what the rest of his family was like; Sasuke was like five when they were all edged off.
>>120572252
>Probably had some random ninja maid take care of him or some shit.
The only group of people that have maids are thwe Hyuuga.
>In b4 more keikaku
>>120575194
They probably did. He can function in basic society seemingly without any problems. The kid walked in on his entire family brutally murdered by his older brother, who proceeded to mind-rape him and make him relive the entire thing over and over again for like two days straight.
The fact that he can attend the ninja school and hasn't killed anyone or gotten seriously injured from locking up at anything to do with ninjas, means he's probably gotten some therapy. Some serious therapy.
>>120575194
we could talk about how nobody gave a shit about nardo and sauce, or we can just accept that konoha is a paramilitary cult that employs child soldiers and pretend everything will be alright as long as you're prepared to die for the village.
>>120575082
Nobody really knew about the coup besides Hiruzen, Danzo and the other two old faggots, in fact the Uchiha were considered Konoha's top clan before the massacre to the point that even kids held them in high regard.
>>120575194
>>120575082
Maybe Sarutobi was a secret racist like Tobirama? The only good Uchiha is a dead one, as the saying goes. It could have been a grand master plan, really.
>Don't help Sasuke after extremely traumatizing event
>Let him fester in his autism, he'll never reproduce!
>Let Orochimaru put the curse seal on him so he goes rogue
>The curse seals effects on the mind are known, but don't put him under surveillance anyway
>He goes rogue, great, we can kill him now!
>He lives in the end because Naruto is altruistic as fuck
>He only reproduces one child anyway, but it's fine because Naruto's genes are dominant and the child is a woman, all Uchiha will be wiped out
In a way, Sarutobi's plan worked, too. In Sasuke's and Sakura's family photo, Sasuke is turned away. Truly he is an autistic motherfucker.
>mfw you guys aren't looking underneath the underneath
>>120575343
>child soldiers
Wasn't the whole purpose of Konoha to get rid of those?
Madara was right. Hashirama accomplished nothing.
>>120575351
Yeah, and those same old guys had no problem with Sasuke or any other Uchiha children being killed. There were likely babies as well. Itachi only spared Sasuke because he couldn't kill his own brother.
But he COULD kill babies. So Itachi is still a fucking evil dude.
>>120575388
>He only reproduces one child anyway, but it's fine because Naruto's genes are dominant and the child is a woman, all Uchiha will be wiped out
>Naruto's genes
>Naruto
you know Naruto isn't the mother of Salada right?
>>120575442
Bolt is going to fuck the Uchiha out of Salada. That's the point.
>>120575442
No, but he's the grandfather of every kid that comes out of Salad.
>>120575442
>>120575442
He means that bolt is gonna toss the salad and make Ninja god.
>>120575459
>>120575489
>>120575497
i figured as much but i couldnt help mysef
pic related
>>120575497
>>120575489
Maybe the Uchiha won't be so fucking autistic anymore once they get some Naruto+Hinata into the gene pool.
>Cross breed Naruto and Hinata's gentleness into the crude, rude, Uchiha gene pool
>They are relentlessly loyal
>>120575401
All Hashirama really did was making kids go through training before going into battle. In the long run it didn't solve anything.
>>120575537
>They are relentlessly loyal
and so tsundere the world will tremble before them
>>120575560
Why the fuck couldn't we have a single panel of Madara telling Hashirama that all their dream together accomplished was to replace an era of clans killing each other with one of villages killing each other?
Instead it's all "MUH ROCK"
>>120575656
just like it seems to be the point of this thread to nitpick and ask too many questions, the author seems to intend us to not ask questions.
at this point i've gotten so used to fill plot holes with personal canon i don't even care, not that i don't enjoy the nitpicking.
>>120572003
Nah, Kishimoto could never write him well and he ended up becoming an extremely shitty character whose actions couldn't be justified by some sad past.
It's a shame, since his character and situation had tons of potential, and he could have served as a character with a legit different outlook from the one established in Konoha.
Hell, the whole deal about the Will of Fire could have worked amazingly well for some nice subversion, considering the whole thing could have worked amazing as cronyism in the guise of legacy.
But I guess those type of topics wouldn't be hot-headed enough for most kids and teenagers, who are more eager for battles and ideals.
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu
>>120575818
>people spam this because they don't like nardo threads
>it keeps getting funnier the more i read it
>i read it out loud enthusiastically and laugh
if you really want to shitpost, pick a shit waifu instead and watch the place implode.
>>120575818
>fag who uses tricks, smoke, mirrors, and explosives
No chance.
>>120575775
It's what happens when details revealed in the future affect what was established at the start. It makes characters like Hiruzen look uncaring and feel like you only side with the village because it's the protagonist's home.
>>120576606
yeah, not to mention the typical shounen problem of power scaling out of proportion to fit the bad guy of the week.
naruto beat gaara/1 tails as a genin, but he'll lose to some nobody next week, and that random nobody badguy of the week essentially becomes more powerful than a tailed beast.
>>120571610
The Third Hokage was terrible at his job
>>120573956
>- Blonde hair
>- Blue eyes
How Namikaze seed can be so rare yet so strong at the same time?
>>120576961
I actually think the Third has the roughest life out of the entire cast
>Led village through 2 great ninja wars
>Wife killed by coolest guy
>Successor died
>Brought out of retirement during one of villages most trying times after serving a lengthy period as hokage
>Led Konoha through Kyuubi disaster and back to #1
Hiruzen had a hard life.
in terms of personality, design who power, who is the best tail beast and why?
>>120577027
Forgot pic
>>120575932
That's not really spam since is actually what happened
>>120577078
I like the bug.
>>120576808
>power scaling out of proportion to fit the bad guy of the week
That never really got that bad outside of fillers. After Gaara Naruto only faced Kimimaro and Akatsuki members, which are all supposed to be really fucking strong.
I miss the art style of the first 50 chapters.
>>120577083
Shame he stuck with Bolt having blue eyes. Unless it's revealed he has some mutated byakugan.
>>120576808
Gamabunta did all the hard job, The only thing that Naruto did was punch gaara
>>120573956
>Jiraiya and The Third had legitimate excuses
Which excuse did Jiraiya have? He was Naruto's godfather, he should've been there
>>120577416
He was off making a fortune writing smut.
>>120577416
He was looking for the chosen one
>>120577416
Chosen one and research and stuff like that
>>120577453
>>120577522
>>120577552
Yeah those are his reasons, but its no excuse
>>120577255
you're right but there were still some fights that annoyed me. f.ex naruto vs kabuto, when earlier kabuto was more than a match for kakashi.
and how 1 tails was literally a shit compared to 3 tails that took half of konoha + including cooking ninja sealing team to face it.
i guess i'm just finding faults, but annoyed me a bit.
>>120577706
he's a free spirit, you gotta let him go man.
>>120577078
Only thinking about shukaku's laugh makes me laugh too, if he was tamed he would be best stand up bro ever
>Spartan society
>Expecting them to acknowledge PTSD.
It's amazing any of the younger generation are well-adjusted.
>>120577706
Chosen one search>>>>Naruto(Who was the chosen one for real this time)
>>120577829
for some reason i just imagined a bunch of delinquents opening the door to a classroom, looking to inspect the new student only to find shukaku asking them what the fuck they're looking at
>>120577851
Yeah. I mean everybody around her just treated Hinata like shit before she joined Team 8
>>120575442
>you know Naruto isn't the mother of Salada right?
No, but he'll be her father in-law.
>>120577928
if you're a doormat you better get used to people wiping their feet on you
>>120571610
Same reason it took 19 fucking years for Naruto to get Kushina's scarf: Hiruzen was an asshole.
>>120577083
>Bolt
I'm having flashbacks on how insufferable Part 1 Naruto can be
>>120572543
Stealing Shisui's eye was probably the dumbest thing Danzo's ever done.
>>120573956
>Kakashi especially pisses me off. He was rolling in regrets, and here he has his Sensei's son, the man who treated HIM like a son, and he ignored Naruto for 12 years. Jiraiya and The Third had legitimate excuses, I have no idea what the fuck Kakashi was doing though. Did the author ever explain where Kakashi was? I mean, really?
Kakashi was a fucking neglectful retard. Even Obito paid more attention to Naruto, and he wanted him fucking dead.
>>120571610
Because there is no therapy in Japan and naruto is fantasy Japan land.
>>120577416
In my mind, Jiraiya's spy network was vital after the Kyuubi's attack. I imagine he had to manipulate information so as to keep how far the village had fallen away from the other major villages. He had to choose his duty over Naruto.
>>120578171
Kakasi was a bad teacher but he honestly had a hard life
>>120578050
It's worse because he has no reason to act like that. I'm hoping that was a one off thing just for 700.
>>120577851
Apparently WILL OF FIRE is a stand-in for therapy and support.
The Will of Fire is basically nationalism in practice. It's like any other ideology making you fight to defend your circle. It comes off warm and cheery, but it's just another means of making you fight.
>>120575132
>"Sorry about having your entire clan killed kid, here's a pat on the head."
>>120578171
But at least he stayed a good guy unlike Obito who killed his own teacher and wife
He didn't make the best decisions, but he did make good ones in memory of his fallen comrades
>>120575388
>Tobirama's face when Salad
>>120578249
>He had a hard life
Compared to who? Naruto is full of sob stories, why would Kakashi's be a special snowflake?
>>120575421
>But he COULD kill babies. So Itachi is still a fucking evil dude.
>implying it wasn't Coolest Guy who killed all the babbies
It's a good thing that infanticide gets Rin hot.
>>120578171
kakashi was fucking dead inside, he was just waiting for death while performing his duties.
if you're gonna blame anyone for not giving a shit it should be the third.
none of them exactly had rosy lives, but the 3rd was the one standing with the orphan of the previous hokage, and he chose to just deposit the little shit and check in on him every now and then.
maybe he was just a naive idiot who expected the villagers to accept nardo.
>>120578368
Kakashi, Itachi and Nagato take the cake when it comes to sob stories.
>>120578368
I'm not saying he is exempt. Im just saying that quite a lot of people died in his life so he is not really good at being a teacher
>>120575537
>all of them become as tsun as Sasuke and as dere as Hinata
>>120575656
Same reason we only had a single panel of Obito telling Kakashi that he hates the world because he's seen the worst of it for almost 2 decades.
Instead it's all "MUH RIN"
>>120578413
>I saw you when you went after the nine-tailed boy
>It was so hot
>>120577083
>Burrito
Hopefully he's not a carbon copy of his father. Shame about the eyes.
>>120578591
Fucking Yanderes man.
>>120577416
>Which excuse did Jiraiya have?
Same excuse he gave the Ame Trio for leaving them in an impoverished, war-torn perpetually-raining hellhole.
>>120578368
-Disgraced Father and Family. Had to bust his ass to make up for that
-Raised in a Ninja War and lost countless allies including his best friend
-Had to kill his other best friend in cold blood because she was stupid enough to get captured
-Been in ANBU Black Ops, risking life and limb under that warhawk Danzo
-Dragged into an age of bullshit ninja magic the likes never seen before.
>>120578639
The signs were always there. Kakashi dodged a bullet.
>>120578632
Look at how edgy that little faggot is.
Salad probably wants to fuck him because he reminds her of her dad.
>>120578439
>>120578447
>>120578703
Not really. Having a hard life doesn't really exempt them for being bad people. If anyone had it the hardest, it would be Sarutobi and Jiraiya.
>Sarutobi grows up in a time of war
>Has lead Konoho through 2 great ninja wars
>Serves for decades
>Picks a successor so he can finally have some peace
>Successor kicks the bucket
>Wife is killed and Son leaves him to join the faggot 12
>Has to lead the village through another great crisis back to greatness
>Has Danzo the prick looking over his shoulder
>Can't even take care of his successors kid like he wants too
>Ends up in the Shinigami's stomach of eternal suffering
>Jiraiya grows up in time of war
>Gets ntr'd
>Loses best friend to madness, and love of his life to grief
>His apprentice and son figure kicks the bucket
>Can't even take care of his kid because he has to maintain spy network for the village
Pein and Kakashi are little bitches. Itachi's line of reasoning concerning Sasuke was absolutely retarded.
>>120578703
>Also lost his Sharingan
>Also he can't have contests with his rival anymore
>>120578685
sure is full of haters in here
>>120578703
You forgot the emotional shock and trauma of having all those wounds reopened when he learned that the man who he idolized turned out to be Ninja Satan, and even worse,Sasuke saying he was no better than Sakura.
>>120578859
If Jiraiya considers a woman who never showed any interest in him "the love of his life" then he's a fucking beta that deserves everything bad that happened to him.
naruto is basically childhood trauma - the anime. 99% of character development is based on it
>>120578863
I was told he can use it in the movie.
Naruto is basically why didn't x: the series
>>120571610
So how much trouble did Naruto and Hinata have naming their son?
>>120579025
Why does she have only one eye?
>>120578953
maybe if you look at it that way, but i prefer to think it's about having the strength to overcome it and get best girl.
also it's about wizards like harry n ron.
>>120579025
>they're eating "naruto we still haven't come up with a name"
>hinata and naruto standing in their garden "naruto we still haven't come up with a name"
>>120575818
>Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha?
Yes
>>120578972
Any series can why didn't x the series.
There used to not be any therapy and even today many people are just told to deal with it instead of going to therapy.
>>120578972
Nope
>>120578859
Haku and Gaara had the worst lives.
>>120579137
>Around_blacks_never_relax.jpg
>>120578940
To be fair the recurrent theme in Jiraya's life is failure and regret. Failure to get the girl he liked, failure to save his friend, failure to save his pupil etc.
Really Naruto was his only success.
>>120579137
Fucking nigger Zetsu ruined the final fight this shit deserved.
Madara had way more abilities than just changing dimensions and his shit-talking alone would have been fantastic.
>>120579453
The problem was that after the fight there won't be any earth left.
>>120579270
>Failure to get the girl he liked
That one really kinda sucked didn't it?
So who was the best written major character? Or least worst written major one?
So why did exactly Madara and Hashirama didn't start to have hot steamy gay ninja sex when they became the leaders of their respective clans? I mean, the reason they broke off their friendships was because their parents were being fags.
So many of Naruto problems would be solved if people simply just sat down, talked and let off steam for 5 seconds.
>>120579751
>the reason they broke off their friendships was because their parents were being fags.
Did you skip a couple of chapters? They founded Konoha together.
Did Naruto pass the Chuunin exam yet or not.
>>120578863
Kakashi is useless without the sharingan, so that puts him back on par with crippled Guy.
>>120579795
No, I mean before Tobirama killed Izuna, Hashirama rekt Madara and Madara went all IF YOU HAD TO PICK BETWEEN HIM AND ME WHO WOULD YOU CHOOSE.
Like, waaay before that, just when they became the leaders of their clans.
>>120579799
He was Jounin during the last
>>120573956
Obito never trying to capture him, especially when he was on missions, was retarded.
So how much longer are they going to make this filler drag out? I'm trying to determine when they are going to release Storm 4, and it's will probably be around when the anime ends.
>>120579899
No he's not he's still listed as Genin. Only Shikamaru and Sakura were promoted.
>>120579993
I think the tailed beast had to be sealed into the Gedo Mazou in order, so I can accept that he didn't try to take Naruto earlier.
>>120579993
They had to seal the tailed beasts in a specific order.
I stopped following Naruto a long time ago, but I started watching ep 396 and they're doing another Chuunin exam. Is this after the Madara fight or before?
>>120580142
Before, it's filler.They had an OVA that showed a Chunin Exam during the war arc, it's non-canon.
>>120579651
That's what he gets for breaking the golden rule.
>>120580077
>>120580136
That still doesn't explain why he didn't just pick him up off the street one day and keep him in the Kamui dimension until he was ready to be processed.
Hell, he could have got him when he was at his edgiest and hated everyone. All he'd have to do is take him out for ramen once and he'd be his favorite person in the world.
>>120579270
>Failure to get the girl he liked
more like failure to move on
naruto, being the new generation, surpassed him by getting over sakura and falling in love with hinata
>>120580077
>>120580136
so what? Madara could have brainwashed him into being his puppet and then waited until they got the others
>>120580320
>more like failure to move on
Well, that failure is what killed him. Gee, thanks Tsunade.
>>120580213
>golden rule
Only go after a girl if they like you back?
Rin was liked Kakashi, Tsunade like Dan.NaruSaku fans got btfo during when Naruto confirmed that he only liked Sakura because to him it was a competition with Sasuke.
>>120580403
not tsunade's fault that he didn't move on, she never lead him on and was in love with another man
>>120580403
No, going alone with almost zero information to face a ninja God is what got him killed.
I still don't know how the fuck all it took was a blonde retard telling them that he's going to achieve world peace somehow (even if he doesn't know jack shit about politics) to turn two guys that killed their teachers in cold blood with no remorse into good guys.
>>120580461
>Only go after a girl if they like you back?
No, never go after a teammate
>>120580550
Chosen one powers.
>>120580461
So Naruto was in love with Sasuke all along?
>>120580265
They could have sent Konan to infiltrate the village and get close to Naruto in a motherly way.
>>120580570
Yahiko and Konan were teammates.
>>120580663
BUT WHERE THEY??!Yes they were, fuck then I dont know whats the golden rule
>>120580265
Konoha is not that easy to snatch Naruto up.
You forget its Jounen are beast mode and would draw any fight out. The 3rd hokage is always watching with his crystal ball.
To top it off people forget the 3rd managed to smoke the 1st, 2nd, and Orichimaru while trapped in a box. I would not want to fuck with that.
>>120580663
and it ended in tragedy
>>120580818
you just need to wait until he goes on a mission, itachi alone could fuck kakashi up
besides if a fucking chuunin was able to get naruto alone and almost kill him, im sure akatsuki could too
>>120580723
It's Yin and Yang
>>120580876
Weren't Asuma and Kurenai both Yin?
>>120580970
Yes, and Asuma died for trying to fuck with the order of things. Now his child is pansexual.
>>120580865
That Chuunin was a part of leaf village and wouldn't set off any alarms.
Itachi with Kisame didn't want to mess with the Asuma and Gai.
>>120580461
>Naruto confirmed that he only liked Sakura because to him it was a competition with Sasuke
Wait, when was this confirmed? And haven't the NaruSakus been BTFO enough?
>All this hate on Jiraiya
What the fuck happened?
>>120580970
Well Yin/Yin is no as much as a recipe of failure as Yang/Yang is
>>120581071
>That Chuunin was a part of leaf village and wouldn't set off any alarms.
kabuto could get in the village, you think akatsuki couldn't send a spy?
>Itachi with Kisame didn't want to mess with the Asuma and Gai.
neither were around when naruto almost got killed in chapter one
>>120581075
confirmed in the movie
>>120581152
Speaking of the movie, where is the camrip?
>>120572252
They didn't beat Naruto. Iruka hit him for his stupidity, but no one actually assaulted him or tried to kill him like they did Gaara. They just ostracized him because they thought he was the fox that killed their loved ones.
If you only read fanfiction, however, I can see why you'd think otherwise.
>>120580621
>in a motherly way
I prefer the /ss/ ara ara sort of way.
>>120581024
So what? Minato and Kushina also ended in tragedy. They, Yahiko/Konan and Asuma/Kurenai were pretty much the only canon pairings before chapter 700.
>>120581200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hycVTuwtjn8
>>120580265
I miss Tobi.
Tobi was great
>>120580663
Exactly.
>>120581137
You could say that Chouji/Karui are both yang.
>>120580996
>Now his child is pansexual
I hope so. She's a fine piece of tomboy ass.
>>120580663
>Yahiko and Konan were teammates
And that went so great right?
Just like ObitoRin. Yeah he won that totally without any problems right?
![Tobi-tobi-19280853-1280-720[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0gkZSck.jpg "Tobi-tobi-19280853-1280-720[1].jpg")
>>120581354
He really was. Hard to believe it was that sourpuss Obito the entire time.
>>120581388
No I really don't think so
>>120581464
>Yeah he won that totally without any problems right?
Do posthumous events count?
>>120575818
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
>>120581388
chouji is yin
>>120581331
There was also Sasuke's parents and Shikamaru's.
One couple ended up getting killed by their son and another one ended with Shikaku's dying words being "hide my porn".
Golden rule should be: "Don't fuck until world peace is achieved"
>>120580213
>Jiraiya/Tsunade
>teammates, not happening, one dies
>Yahiko/Konan
>teammates, happened, both dies
>Obito/Rin
>teammates, happened (eventually), both dies
>Minato/Kushina
>not teammates, happened, both dies
>Naruto/Hinata
>not teammates, happened, still to be seen
I'm not seeing the common theme between them.
>>120581478
>Tobi: A cool guy who wants to be cool like his Sempais but is a lovable retard who livens up Akatasuki
>Obito: Some waifu obsessed faggot
>>120581565
Its the YinYang. Jiraiya and Tsunade are both Yang
>>120581319
That also works. Take advantage of his neglectful treatment & starved for love.
"Hey little boy you look sad. Would you like to come with me?"
>>120581388
Yes, because of this they create the aberration called Chouchou
>>120581620
"wat u say honkey?"
>>120581570
Everyone needs a day to let off excess steam. Obito couldn't kill himself, so instead he just acted retarded for a bit and fucked with high-strung prissy Deidara for shits and giggles.
>>120581615
And I don't think she'd have any problems fucking what is essentially a tiny shota Yahiko.
Goddammit I need to stop having such good ideas for doujins. Japan will never keep up.
>Want to do my best and be a great ninja.
>Practice and learn various techniques of different types so I can be a varied fighter.
>Train my ass off.
>Some blonde faggot from Leaf can spam 2 techniques all he wants and is some child of destiny.
Being canon fodder is suffering.
>>120581565
everybody is ying/yang except jiraiya and tsunade
>>120581665
Tobi is just evidence that if you remove the EDGE and darkness, the Uchiha are full of goofy jerks and shitheads.
>>120581711
that one kid that picks Eddie or Dr. B every fight
>>120581746
Thank God for Salad.
>>120581809
Maybe Uchiha women are like Simpsons women. All the guys are retards, but every generation they produce a brilliant woman.
please don't mention Lisa
>>120581809
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD
>>120581570
Do you think Rin knows about Obito's fling with Deidara?
If Naruto wanted to have an open relationship so he could fuck other hot women, would Hinata accept?
>>120581883
>implying she won't forget all that stupid school nonsense the second Burrito starts tossing her salad
>>120581904
Rin was a fujoshi so she was probably schlicking it up big time in heaven.
>>120581917
she'd shoot herself
>>120581917
That's a good question. I'm almost 100% sure Hinata is a hardcore submissive, but then again, she's somewhat borderline yandere with the stalking. I'm not to sure.
>>120581917
Wataru pls go
And learn how to fucking draw. Goddamn.
>>120581862
It's fine if she's a Lisa, she used to be a good character at some point and glorious nippon values will make sure Salad doens't ever become a SJW.
>>120581995
With what?
>>120581917
>If Naruto wanted to have an open relationship
Does that really sound like something he would do?
>>120581973
is it me or does she look completely insane, she's not even reading that book she is watching her enemies boil in the flames of her eternal hatred screaming in agony
>>120582090
uh
the air palm?
>>120582096
He'd get tired of even Hinata. Then the only way to satisfy his Uzumaki vitality would be to do it with other women, just to add some spice.
He'd like for Hinata to be fucking other men as well, but clearly she won't accept any other dick.
>>120582115
Bitches be cray anon. She said she'd be by some random kid's side forever as soon as he made the passing comment that he wants to be Hokage and then started making moony eyes at a guy who constantly wears a mask.
And then she watches as said random kid commits a slew of atrocities before eventually deciding she wants to be his fucktoy for all of eternity when he finally dies.
In short, Rin was a fucking psycho.
>>120582016
I'm not sure if this is confirmed yet, but did he draw that doujin where Naruto fucks Sakura and Sarada because NS didn't win?
>>120582352
Yeah, pretty much. It's actually kinda funny if you can get past how pathetic it is.
>>120582090
Updated ninja technology? Maybe they finally invented guns.
>>120581722
massively underrated post
>>120582395
>Hinata invented guns so she could kill herself with it
>>120572543
You know he probably killed one of his friends in cold blood for those eyes, right?
>>120571610
>Japan
>therapy
>>120582464
Mangekyou isn't always awakened through killing a friend, that's just the easiest way.
Coolest Guy achieved it through sheer butthurt, an impressive feat. His ass was so blasted that it literally tore holes in reality.
>>120582292
not to mention she could have chosen any method of committing sudoku but chose to impale herself on previously mentioned psyhologically unstable mask donned friends murder jutsu
>>120582440
lel
>>120582292
All problems in the entire manga could have been avoided if she were just capable of not getting captured... twice.
>>120582292
Then the two clearly deserve each other.
>>120582516
Which is a fucking pussy excuse to get a mangekyo.
Kakashi killed Rin, using the technique that can only work because of Obito's eyes, which requires him to die.
So Kakashi's important friend died so he can use this powerful technique that he'll eventually use to kill his other important friend. That shit is heavy.
>>120571826
Japan isn't the suicide capitol of the world in just name.
>>120582561
>>120582522
Not even. All she had to do is make it to the village and they could have sealed Isobu inside her easily.
Or Obito could have just revived her at any time and had all the illegal loli poon he could ever want.
>>120582561
>shota Sauce holding a present
Does he want to get his entire family killed?
>>120582661
Does she know that Konoha had some master sealers? Maybe Jinchuuriki, Bijuu and their sealing styles are kept secret for most troops during the war.
>>120582724
>Does she know that Konoha had some master sealers?
Nigger, her teacher and his wife were master sealers. And it would have been a tremendous boon to the Leaf to have not only another jinchuuriki but a kid whose Wood Style was the best since Hashirama.
>>120582826
Isobu the cutest
>>120582900
He only wanted to make a friend.
>>120582826
Then why was Minato incapable of sealing Kurama back into Kushina without having to use a technique that requires commiting sudoku?
>>120582516
Sure but that was how it happened 99.9% of the time for the last thousand years, Coolest Guy was just cool enough to be an exception.
>>120582440
>implying 10/10 didn't already
>>120582921
He just didn't want to be a single dad, he could have sealed the whole thing but that would require changing nappies instead of getting laid by his beastly wife every day.
>>120582944
Sasuke got it and he didn't even kill Itachi.
>>120582921
He wasn't. That's why the whole thing was retarded. He could have sealed half in Naruto and half in him, but decided to kill himself because Kushina was basically fucked and the little bitch chose his waifu over his newborn son.
>>120581478
Tobi was one of the most entertaining characters there was.
I remember liking Obito long before the reveal, during Kakashi Gaiden. I thought he would go down as one of the few good Uchiha.
Then it all went to shit.
>>120581809
She's a failure of a different kind.
She is tainted by Haruno fodder DNA.
>>120582826
Master sealers, yes, but does she know much about Jinchuuriki? The concept of sealing these monstrous beasts into human beings that won't end up with the human dying?
She just got introduced to that concept when Isobu get forcefully sealed into her. Maybe she thought these powerful beasts can't be stopped even with Konoha's sealers.
Not to mention the sealing itself must be one traumatic experience. Maybe she snapped and lost her head.
>>120583125
>he doesn't think pacifying the Uchiha was a good idea
Sakura's shit genes will be overwhelmed by Bolt's Uzumaki genes which seem to override fucking everything, so she's in good hands.
>>120582713
>An Uchiha as cool and talented as Kakashi
Rin would be all over his dick before she can even realize that she might get fired for it.
>>120582352
Have you even seen his other doujins? They have always been like that. Turning all the female characters into horny fat cows.
It has nothing to do with the pairing outcomes. That is just his shitty style.
>>120583162
>>120575388
Truly, the new generation just can't see underneath the underneath of the master plans of generations of old.
>>120583125
Does that mean she gets super stength and perfect chakra control alongside eye hax super speed?
>>120583143
>but does she know much about Jinchuuriki?
Kushina was one of her best friends, right? Her sensei sealed it in her and pretty much everyone knew that.
And barring that Kakashi could have used the kunai Minato gave him for making Jonin to summon him to get them the fuck out of there before Obito showed up to murder everyone with giant splinters.
Regardless, pic related was the absolute worst way to handle the situation and literally almost destroyed the world.
>>120582921
Kishi had to create tragedy of being an orphan for the MC.
That is the only reason he was killed off.
>>120583059
It's why I dislike the will of fire nationalism nonsense. Guys like Minato & Itachi made these fucktarded plans that could have backfired easily because they chose the village over their families.
>>120583199
>NH becomes canon
>first doujin he does is post-The Last and has Naruto cheating on his wife and raping Sakura's daughter into getting pregnant and having the Sharingan
>Sakura is a yandere psycho
You don't think any of this was influenced by even a tiny bit of butthurt?
>>120583186
At least Itachi would be absolved of all guilt when everything goes to shit again.
>>120583223
>Does that mean she gets super stength and perfect chakra control alongside eye hax super speed?
>>120583059
In retrospect, that whole flashback of Minato sealing Kyuubi in baby Naruto really puts Hiruzen and Minato in a bad light.
>>120583335
Not really. When you think about it, his plan made perfect sense. Give Naruto the power to combat the future threat. In hindsight, Naruto would have probably died early in the series without the Kyuubi because he's so dumb.
>>120583267
>It's why I dislike the will of fire nationalism nonsense
Well yeah. It's basically systemic brainwashing of children to fight in wars for reasons they can't possibly understand and die horribly in the process.
Hiruzen was kind of a horrible monster.
>>120582003
>>120581917
Think about this way, merely the thought of Naruto having a relationship with another woman that Hinata inferred from a fucking scarf was enough to send her to depressionville. Think of what would happen if she actually saw Nardo being openly affectionate to other grills, like hugging and kissing them. Add to that the way she pulled-out Hanabi's eyes out of Toneri. She's basically Kotonoha V2.
>>120583480
well the alternative is to raise them to be peaceful and weak in a world where every other nation would take the slightest hint of weakness as an invitation to wipe them out.
