Being here for over a year I have seen something around here and a few other sites that you people seem to hate TMS.
As what seem to be one of the few people who are willing to talk about them outside of 80s Disney, 90s Warner Bros, Pre-Ghibli Miyazaki, Dezaki in his prime & Akira most people here seem to run clear when TMS shows up on a projects.
I know some of their subcontractors are shit (Tokyo Kids, MSJ, alot of the Korean studios they use) when others are excellent (Telecom, Studio Jungle Gym, Oh Pro, Nakamura Pro, Fai) but the in house stuff is excellent as is the case with Telecom; Why hate on them?
I know of the new LilPri show, I know about Blue Jacket and I know about that thing that they doing for Disney Television Animation's 30th anniversary but other then that you guys seem to have little to no interests here (my real life friends are hyped up to the max about it).
But in short; Do otaku hate TMS?
It's been a while, Famicom.
>>120500716
*As what seem to be one of the few people who are willing to talk about them outside of 80s Disney, 90s Warner Bros, Pre-Ghibli Miyazaki, Dezaki in his prime & Akira most people here seem to run clear when TMS shows up on a project.
Famicom pls go
>>120500773
Famicom here, I know, I might as well post this myself.
>Remember that Aikatsu is a Sunrise show and that most of the first season was outsourced to Telecom as Sunrise was doing the 2nd season at the same time (only the CG stuff was done under a stander schedule).
>>120500788
I'm thinking about leaving here once I get a answer.
I mostly view /vr/ by the way, smart people there.
>>120500881
dayum so most of Aikatsu's best moments were made by TMS. Interesting stuff
>>120500716
yowapeda seems strike gold last season.
I have no fucking clue what are you on about.
>>120500881
>Famicom here
LIAR YOU'RE NOT HIM
>>120500938
>/vr/
>smart people
Why?
>>120500947
What are your view on LilPri then?
TV Tokyo ordered 101 episode, Sunrise could not do 101 episodes at once so the split the amount in half, TMS got the first half after they were done with Justice League Doom (they also started the movie at the same time too, the movie was finished by October of 2013 as Yano's unit went off to do retakes for the Wakko's Wish DVD after the Aikatsu movie was done with) when Sunrise did the 2nd half as they though it was better then the first half.
Because of how the studios went, they were labeled as seasons 1 (TMS half) & 2 (Sunrise half).
>>120500716
You should put explainations about all the random geeky stuff. Yowapeda seems the most succesfull series last season though im not certain
>>120501157
Your view is wrong. Why in the heck that otaku supposed to hate the animation studio. TMS seems has good art from your right example
>>120500976
And they spent every yen they made off of it and The Pilot's Love Song on LilPri series 3 (series 2 was a all CG show by Studio 4C).
>>120501015
Tokyo Movie Shinsha, one of Japan's best and brightest studios but tend to get brush under the rug for studios like Shaft & KyoAni in western markets.
>>120501017
My friends (online & IRL) tend to cover for me here but I doing this myself this time.
I made the drawing by the way.
>>120501061
At least compared to /v/
>>120501249
TMS did make bank off of it.
>>120501327
https://archive.moe/co/thread/68973315/#68991317
Also see picture, that topic seems to tell me that most otaku hate TMS regardless that their the Ghibli of TV/OVA animation.
I don't understand why anyone will do this to them, sure my friend went a little overboard on Rob's info but why hate on TMS?
>>120501340
Look at the right side now.
Top row shows are targetted at kids.
Hischool girls is like watching MMD tier flash anime(for hi level watcher to boot) and the rest are made for fujoshit.
None of them are made for the casuals or mainstream market.
They hate you for sure, famicom.
>>120501469
>https://archive.moe/co/thread/68973315/#68991317
>tiny toon
Why do you direct me to /co/?
We don't care their taste.
That's cartoon you're probably on wrong board, we don't or rarely watch cartoon our opinion probably very bias.
If you talked about ghibli, they are good but they rarely produce anything these day. They story seems not selling too well. They have good animator but their story for younger audiences.
>>120501474
Z/X is not a kids show, and Sungoku Basara Judge End & Yowamushi Peddel are not as Fujo as you think.
Lupin however is mainstream however, it's even being funded by France & Italy.
>>120501518
No, hate the people that post here under my guidance, I'm very sorry for the mess that they caused.
>>120501340
From your picture TMS seems targeted for younger audience except lupin that shit is for oldfag or nostalgia fag. You cannot get much spotlight when you produce non mainstream anime.
TL;DR TMS anime are for children.
>>120501654
TMS project.
>Their stories are for younger audiences.
Grave Of The Fireflies, Only Yesterday, Mononoke Hime and The Wind Rises says other wise.
![[Mezashite] Aikatsu! ‒ 116 [86922478]_00:06:58.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Eh70W2d.jpg "[Mezashite] Aikatsu! ‒ 116 [86922478]_00:06:58.jpg")
>>120500947
S3 is better than S1 though.
>>120501713
Z/X is for kid. That shit even cannot give fanservice. You can said that Z/X is pokemon or digimon ripoff
>>120501784
That shit is for oldfag or nostalgia fag like lupin. those things is not mainstream today.
>>120501713
Sure when people still fap over Fujiko and enjoy episodic thievery of the week.
It is 2015 right now, you gotta adapt and revisualize it for the modern audience like what Xebec did for Yamato 2199.
>>120501773
Tomonaga said that Blue Jacket Lupin is not made for kids, and I know that Fujiko Mine is "NOT" made for kids.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-14/1st-tv-anime-show-starring-lupin-iii-in-3-decades-to-launch-in-italy/.79924
By the way, when did Lupin start moving into the kids market? I'm thinking it's when Osamu Dezaki stopped doing the specials.
>>120501713
>Sungoku Basara Judge End & Yowamushi Peddel are not as Fujo as you think.
>sungoku
If it not, which audience those 2 cater?
>>120501909
>you should read again
I'm saying that lupin is for oldfag and nostalgia fag. Lupin series was old franchise. That kind of franchise do not cater mainstream otaku fanbase.
Lupin is good but thats movie and rarely airing unlike seasonal anime.
>>120502009
TL;DR otaku not hating TMS because TMS rarely animating mainstream seasonal anime or anime movies like evangelion or gundam. They probably don't care because the TMS anime is not famous enough now.
>>120501805
I'm glade you like S3.
>>120501811
Explain the bath house parts with this character which show up in almost every episode.
That and the show aired around 2AM'ish when it was on.
>>120501848
You could say the same about Tiny Toons & Animaniacs, but those 3 show are still remembered by the mainstream up to this day, mostly the first 2 outside of Cagliostro because of Miyazaki.
>>120501855
That /co/ topic did talk about bringing modern stuff "like" GCCX & Atkatsu into Animaniacs if new episodes were ever made.
>TMS then
>comedy shit
TMS now
>shit
Maybe TMS needs more female staff instead of more comedians. The appeal of anime is not about animation, action, comedy, or deep messages. Anime is about cuteness.
>>120502213
Say you, fucker.
>>120501713
>I like those shows, I swear I'm not a fujo or a kid
Who cares? As long as the audience has a large % of fujo/ kid, then its a fujo/kid show
>>120502213
This guy gets it.
Cute and sexy girls, thats anime.
>>120502391
But casuals don't get it
And these threads will keep making
after saw wikipedia
TMS is a very good studio. Rarely heard bad rumour about it, though.
The fuck are you people talking about? /co/? Famicom? Some American stuff?
>>120500716
It would be nice if you included at least a single show aimed at otaku in your image if you want to argue about their "hate".
>>120501784
Those aren't TMS project.
TMS was only a subcontractor on those anime.
>>120502391
Actually, sexy is kind of different in the anime medium
Otaku doesnt like heavily sexualize female like Fujiko, Faye(bebop) or that tummy bearing female from death parade. These are what normalfags find sexy but most otaku watchers avoid them like the plague.
They need to show off less skins if they want to appeal to the otakus.
>>120502213
But Batman is not a comedy.
>More female staff
Not until all the key male staff retire say in 2030'ish as TMS is one of the last safe havens for men left.
>>120502484
>Fujiko, Faye(bebop) or that tummy bearing female from death parade
These girls look sexy, but ugly
like Selena Gomez
>>120500881
Who is Famicom?
Am I misunderstanding something or is Famicom someone who works at an anime studio or something?
>>120502484
Yes of course, purity is essential too.
>>120502552
It means nintendo in japanese.
>>120500716
>new LilPri show
Source please. Why would they make a third season to a franchise that's been dead for years?
>>120502177
Honestly Z/X was epic fail. Cramping all the conflict and the potential in 12 episodes. That scare away the audiences. Perhaps there are bath scene but people less care when the anime is too random and forced. The story telling was chaos but the visual art is very good. You cannot enjoy the story at all when too mant random shit happened and messy.
>>120502451
Co-producers really.
>Not bringing up Ulysses 31 & Little Nemo.
>>120502446
Z/X, SeHa and Sangoku Basara Judge End are aimed at otaku.
Also TMS did not work on Grave (and I think Only Yesterday as well), they were doing Akira & Nemo at that time of Grave's production.
>>120502587
I know that much, but it sounded like someone was using it as a trip here.
>>120502552
>>120502446
Famicom is a massive autist that constantly posts about Tiny Toons on /co/ and claims to know everything about TMS (because they helped do animation for westernshit) while linking insufficient website sources. They want to have an anime studio with some knockoff tiny too mascot and get help from Asian animators but they can't into moon
Also any time you call them out they'll either claim to not be Famicom or that their "friends" were the ones posting for them. Jesus I can't believe how long this shit has been going on for.
>>120502635
SeHa is the only anime that otaku will watch.
And it is a very high level anime. Those faggots fresh off bebop will not watch it and they wont enjoy it. For Basara, you are better off asking tumblr if they like it. /a/ is not the demographic that will watch this kind of show.
>>120502484
Fujiko not appealed to its real fanbase. The lupin series was quite tame. The sluttines on fujiko mine was too overboard and become too sureal for lupin series.
>>120502552
I'm a artist who also looks up info about Japanese studios.
>>120502607
https://archive.moe/a/thread/101568775
Where it all started from, with links from IGN & Telecom's digital unit inside the link.
>>120502620
At least it was better then Justice League Doom, that was just boring.
And you're trying to break into the anime industry? Are you here to blog?
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? I'm so confused.
>>120502177
>You could say the same about Tiny Toons & Animaniacs, but those 3 show are still remembered by the mainstream up to this day, mostly the first 2 outside of Cagliostro because of Miyazaki.
Cagliostro appeal to western fans type of anime /a/ is not the demographic. TMS probably appeal to normalfag instead of otaku that's why they said otaku hate TMS. The themes of the anime appeal to younger audience or normalfag audience instead of otaku. OTAKU don't hate it but its juts that kind of movies demographic, is more normalfag demographic instead of otaku.
>>120502635
Z/X looks like it's aimed at female fans. Basara is aimed at female fans. SeHa is only there to advertise some consoles, nobody takes it seriously.
As I said, post something actually relevant to ataku before you decide if they hate it or not. I'd say the only show otaku care about in your image could be Aikatsu but they are less than 5% of its audience (perhaps more like 1-2%).
>>120502658
Makes sense.
>>120502861
I see then, anything else?
>>120502727
>https://archive.moe/a/thread/101568775
>Where it all started from, with links from IGN & Telecom's digital unit inside the link.
Looks like Anonymous already proved you wrong in that thread. Basically you've got nothing.
>>120502727
>At least it was better then Justice League Doom, that was just boring.
I don't watch western superheroes types. So i'm not reliable enough to answer that.
>>120502889
No Z/X is aimed at a male market, otherwise that one character will be more covered and the bath house parts will be out the window and Basara is aimed at fans of the game which also happen to be men as well.
Please read this to understand me >>120502727
>>120503011
No, they just delusional, IGN rarely gets stuff wrong.
>>120502889
>atakuataku on tituna
>>120502954
Yes, you shouldn't push the statement too strictly because even lupin can still appeal to a lot of otaku its just not mainstream enough to have a lot of otaku fanbase. Lupin also has a lot of 'otaku' or japanese element, not fullblown western.
>>120503069
If they aimed for man they need to add more female cast and fanservice. Sengoku basara anime more targeted to female audience or younger audience.
>>120500716
Literally no one gives a shit about studious.
>>120503302
Basara's game rations range are in the B (12+) to C (15+) range, not for kids at all and the people who buy the game are mainly men.
>>120503328
Tell that to Trigger & KyoAni.
>>120503101
>No, they just delusional
Oh god, this is hilarious.
Tiny Toons was an anime?
>>120503469
I know right, but IGN knows what they're doing.
Also this is made for otaku.
>>120503328
Literally the most incorrect post on /a/.
>>120503302
>>120503460
Learn more about the demographic that watches and buy anime.
Basara and fujopedal buyers are heavily tilted to female. The only reason fujopedal even sold well was due to the event ticket where they get to meet and shake hands with their handsome VA.
You wont find them in /a/, you are asking the wrong audience.
>>120503509
US X Japanese co-production, other studios were used but only TMS had say on it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110912073627/http://www.telecom-anime.com/telecom/sakuhinshokai/shokai_tinytoon.html
>>120503460
12+ and 15+ are for kids those called underage.
>>120503534
>I know right, but IGN knows what they're doing.
That's not what I meant you fucking dummy. You thinking Lilpri is getting a third season based on nothing and then calling other people delusional is what's hilarious.
>>120503604
No, thats teenagers.
T/B/12+ depend on the market but often times their made for adults.
C/15+ is a light M in North America.
Brain Age is made for adults but has a A/E/3+ ration.
>>120503730
No, LilPri is getting a 3rd "series" because of how much money Aikatsu is making.
>>120503770
Lel you need to lurk more in here. You're too newfag. Honestly even lupin franchise is considered kiddy show level of ecchines. Even doraemon most of the time can be more ecchi than lupin . TMS is for kid the same audience like naruto or younger. All their movies also most of them family friendly or we can say kiddy shows.
>>120503925
Lupin was not made for kids at one point in it's life, it might of been when Dezaki stopped doing the specials but Tomonaga wants to bring it back to adults like it was in the past and Akira is "NOT" made for kids, same with Cobra, Fujiko Mine & Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-14/1st-tv-anime-show-starring-lupin-iii-in-3-decades-to-launch-in-italy/.79924
>>120503925
also most their movies and anime are family friendly or we can say it ,kiddy shows.
Epic thread, it's super interesting.
>>120504034
Even doraemon has put uncensored V area in the past. Lupin are tame lack nudity lack kissing. That shit is family friendly.
Put proof that lupin is for adult.
Don't put western culture and audience to /a/.
>>120504034
Fujiko mine's is too vulgar and yes that shit not for kids, and i bet the sales was very bad because not catering the original audience.
Cobra anime is very tame compared to its manga original.
They cannot into mature anime. Fujiko mine series are bad, though.
>>120504070
Lupin was made for adults at one point, no iddea when it switched to kids.
Cobra is made for adults.
Akira is made for adults.
Mankatsu is made for adults.
Moyashimon is made for adults.
Sengoku Otome is made for adults.
Z/X is made for adults.
Fujiko Mine is made for adults.
Not kids stuff by any means.
>>120504271
>original manga or source material
>>120504203
At least when Dezaki stopped doing the spicials.
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/lupin-iii/
A few typos but it shows that Lupin was made for adult at one point and Tomonaga is going to bring that back.
You're lucky that none of TMS' /co/ stuff is for adults in the vains of Family Guy & South Park (but with much better animation of course).
>>120504271
>They cannot into mature anime.
Akira says hi.
I'd rather let them and Aoyama finish detective conan, and then they can close their studio forever.
>>120504286
You should read to-love-ru darkness hat shit is for younger audience (shounen jump) but lewd then try to compare. Those shit that you're listing is not nearing anything the lewdness of the manga, the anime or the ovas.
>>120504503
Thats Xebec, were talking about TMS here.
>>120504541
That's why i said that TMS is kiddy show or family friendly shows. It can be watched by all of the family member.
>>120504621
Wait I thought the autist was the guy trying to argue TMS wasn't family friendly. I'm lost.
>>120504402
what i meant by mature anime is that the show i not family friendly show or not appropriate for kids
is akira not family friendly anime?
I bet its still considered very tame compared to to-love-ru darkness.
You can bring proof that akira is not a tame anime. Like nudity or probably sex scenes
>>120504621
>Is Akira not a family friendly anime?
Akira is very VERY violent, it even has a R ration in it.
Akira is much worse then To-Love-Ru, but theres only 1 topless chick scene in it and thats when a gang rips off a woman's tank top, Akira is just very dark & violent, it deserves it's R rating.
>people actually arguing with famicom
About as retarded as arguing with a child with learning difficulties about the colour of a banana.
>>120504758
I am not a autist, and TMS has done adult stuff at times, like with Akira.
Yowamushi pedal is a sports manga/anime aimed at kids
don't buy into the "fujoshit" boogeyman
>>120504803
Akira is also 20+years ago
Anon, we are talking about TMS NOW
Why otaku hate TMS NOW?
The answer is their anime lineup. Either adapt to otaku culture or make ghibli like mainstream movie for the whole family or die like any other third rate studio.
Are the whole company run by stubborn chauvinist male that refused to change or adapt to modern time?
>>120500716
>Being here for over a year
Is this an achievement that should be mentioned now?
![[HorribleSubs] Gugure! Kokkuri-san - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.37_[2015.01.22_23.21.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gliMB4z.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Gugure! Kokkuri-san - 09 [720p].mkv_snapshot_06.37_[2015.01.22_23.21.54].jpg")
Thread seems crappy but I'll throw this out there:
TMS's Lupin stuff has been in varying quality over the past 30+ years.
Gugure Kokkuri-San, which just aired recently was quite well-made, so I've got high hopes for blue jacket Lupin to be just as good.
>>120504803
>chick scene in it and thats when a gang rips off a woman's tank top, Akira is just very dark & violent, it deserves it's R rating.
That's very tame, you know. You need to watch anime to understand not only TMS kiddies anime.
>>120504878
How long have you been here then?
Who am I kidding, you're just going to lie and say 8 years or more anyway.
>>120504846
Then why are most of the broadcasts air after midnight?
Theirs only 1 airing that airs when people are awake which is around 8:30AM and thats to avoid another Nichijou, the other broadcasters air the show at around 1-2AM.
>>120504850
TMS is very hip, they will adapt.
>>120504939
Yep pretty much
>>120504927
Gugure Kokkuri-San is indeed well made, Blue Jacket Lupin is being made by the same TMS crew that did Tiny Toons so they know what they're doing.
>>120504938
It only get's darker from there, much darker.
>>120504803
I cannot recommended much about newest edgy kiddy anime because i'm not into it. You can watch akame ga kill, terraformar, elfen lied. If you want to feel the detail when cutting the body part you can see shigurui. Akira art is already behind the area its not thrilling when those edgy stuff happened.
>>120504958
>TMS is very hip
Listen, kid. We at /a/ are incredibly hip. You might even call us hipsters, the hip of the hip. Basically what I'm saying is we know hip, and TMS isn't it.
>>120505065
If that shit called dark you probably need to go back to /co/ and your kiddy cartoon.
>>120504803
>>120504958
>very dark & violent
Newsflash, anime like this is on the way out.
Look at how well anime like Terraformars, Brynhildr, Akame, Tokyo Ghoul sold with blood, gore and death.
SnK was successful because it brought other things onto the table. If you think just by having blood, explosion and action you will have a blockbuster, you are clearly wrong.
>>120505132
Akira is not for kids, it has a R rating.
Have you even watched Akira?
>>120505131
If shoving Ichigo & Aoi with Yakko, Wakko and Dot is not hip then I don't know what is.
>>120505193
>SnK was successful because it brought other things onto the table
>>120505193
>If you think just by having blood, explosion and action you will have a blockbuster, you are clearly wrong.
TMS will rather have the blue & pink rabbits anyway.
>>120505237
Meme op song
Fujo money
Mainstream appeal
>>120505226
The theme probably not for kid but old anime cater western they make the rating for western market. Western market will ban to love ru darkness or put it under porns eventhough come from shounen magazines.
I don't watch akira and i already said it and that's not important too. The idea only a simple rip of clothes is darke for you it means that you're used to watching kiddy show. Rape in anime is not always considered as adult stuff. You should watch anime you're too newfag to understand.
>>120505226
I guess i should stop. i cannot handle noobs in anime. They think anime put western rating at it and only watching entry level shit like akira.
>>120505480
These are the kind of people that fell for UTD save anime kikestarter.
We don't hate TMS, we hate you, Famicom. Fuck off.
>>120505688
No hate the people that work for me, I have done nothing wrong.
>>120505431
>I don't watch Akira.
Then please do so.
>>120505740
Nobody works for you.
>>120505740
>No hate the people that work for me
I really doubt these people exist.
>>120505740
I advised you to watch doraemon instead. At that time i heard even doraemon put uncensored V.
>>120505740
He is right though, Akira is pretty tame compared to other stuff
>>120505740
well, you are a /co/ browsing crossboarder that sticks out like a sore thumb.
the only reason you aren't redirected to death is your autism makes you non threatening to our autists
>>120505765
Yes they do, We are talking about leaving 4 Chan.
I just might end up doing so.
>>120505808
They do.
>>120505831
>Thinks Akira is tame.
You sick baster.
>>120505893
I rarely post on this board at all.
I am also not a autists.
>>120505193
what are you? 12?
>>120506200
> the obvious lies
> I also not an autist (fixed fo you)
Even your post reeks more autism from all /a/non combined,m8.
You need to fix your autism first next time you would come here,though.
>>120506200
Is English not your first language? Your posts are full of syntax errors that indicate either you haven't mastered the language yet or you have a disability and my guess is it's the latter.
>>12050648715Hey, you were underage the first time in /a/ too
>>120506624
Theres no autism here, a fue typos here and there however, but I'm giving you a serious topic here.
>>120506487
Does it count, I watched Akira when I was 12?
>>120506682
I'm just sleepy. You are quite rude for an autistic retarded faggot. You need to chill boy.
>>120500716
>a few other sites that you people seem to hate TMS.
I doubt most people on /a/ even kno what TMS is.
>>120506682
>Is English not your first language?
Yes.
>>120506722
I'm 24.
>>120506740
Nobody your age would care about TMS as much as you do without a degree of autism. That level of obsession for an animation studio gives it away immediately.
![Golgo 13 - The Professional (1983).mkv_snapshot_00.11.30_[2014.10.22_23.30.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VDPvZPe.jpg "Golgo 13 - The Professional (1983).mkv_snapshot_00.11.30_[2014.10.22_23.30.48].jpg")
>>120502213
>Anime is about cuteness.
Fuck off back to the hole you crawled out of. You're what's wrong with modern anime and its fans.
>>120506863
Thank you.
Golgo 13 is very much "NOT" for kids.
![Golgo 13 - The Professional (1983).mkv_snapshot_00.37.57_[2014.10.22_00.00.14].jpg](https://4chanarchives.com/image/image-404.png "Golgo 13 - The Professional (1983).mkv_snapshot_00.37.57_[2014.10.22_00.00.14].jpg")
>>120506915
Ah, come now. I wouldn't say that.
>>120506958
It's is very dirty.
At least were getting back on track.
>>120506808
Talk for yourself m8.
Honestly, Famicom's starting to grow on me. He's like the resident street male prostitute or crazy old man of /a/. At least, his obsessive fandom is true, which is more than you can say about most anon.
Here, I'll throw a bone to you. You won't get much TMS insight here, so read this instead
http://www.pelleas.net/aniTOP/index.php/tms/
>>120507217
I don't go here very much but I'm not a prostitute and I'm not a crazy old man. I'm just a man is all.
Pelleas at times has typos but is a good place otherwise.
Heres another.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/TMSEntertainment
>>120507396
Haven't you been banned from TVTropes multiple times for repeatedly filling it with your bullshit disinformation?
>>120506783
I do because I watch Fujopedal but it's kind of obvious the OP has no idea how the modern anime industry functions.
>>120506743
Inability to understand sarcasm in a sentence must be hard for you.
>>120500716
I've never seen anyone hate on TMS. I don't think anyone here cares about them because they never make any standout anime. Just solid journeyman work, like every other studio.
>>120508612
In the 70s and 80s they made some of the best anime there are but now they are pretty much irrelevant.
>>120502658
>any time you call them out they'll either claim to not be Famicom
>that means it's them
prefect logic
