Are women generally better writers than men when it comes to shonen manga? Just finished pic related and is up to date with Magi and noticed that both of these series are written by women.
>>119918217
Magi is shit.
>>119918217
Pandora Hearts > D-Gray.Man > FMA > Magi
>>119918436
>D-Gray.Man
No.
>>119918618
Why?
>>119918705
The whole thing went downhill after the tier3 akuma fight. After that, powerlevels just exploded, and the story became hard to understand. Seriously, the whole thing was a mess.
Not sure if it became better later as I dropped it. Heard it was cancelled or something.
>>119918217
It's better to think about it on an individual basis.
>>119919209
This.
>>119918217
Gender does not define writing skills, you SJW cockass.
>>119919209
Women are leagues better at writing josei.
>>119919946
>nana
>honey and clover
>nodame
>>119919988
Thanks for listing great examples.
>>119920008
That was the point.
Funfact: if you google "best josei anime" honey and clover's wikipedia page comes up first
>>119918436
that's like the complete opposite of true (except Magi you got it right there).
>>119918217
>FMA's ending
>Good writing
Good one.
HxH >> FMA >>>>>>>>>> Magi
>>119920394
>FMA
>Good writing
Good one.
>>119918217
A possibility might be that female shonen mangaka have a higher rate of mangaka with a love of the demographic and its styles/trappings than male shonen mangaka. For aspiring mangaka, shonen series tend to be safe AND profitable, and there is a general perception of it being easy to write a "winning" series compared to adult-orient demographics. Hence, there are probably more male mangaka writing or attempting to write shonen series out of career/financial reasons, and that kind of outlook is unlikely to produce decent material on average. Meanwhile, while there are certainly female mangaka attempting the same financial security outcome, there are likely more female mangaka that are writing shonen series out of love of the material, percentage-wise per group. I would expect a similar outcome of men writing shojou.
>>119920394
>ending that ties up all loose ends
>bad writing
let me guess, you thought the 03 anime's nazi ending was good writing
>>119920394
>>119920444
Elaborate.
>>119920397
A female mangaka would never sit around playing Dragon Quest all day while complaining about back problems to avoid finishing their manga
really I kinda learned that mangaka's gender has shit to do with anything
except the fact that every middle eastern setting manga is made by a female mangaka and ever Euro setting is made by a male one
>>119920539
Didn't Arakawa work on two different manga while pregnant?
Still, HxH is leagues better than FMA.
>>119920570
I meant Medieval Euro setting
>>119920591
I don't know I like FMA better than HxH
FMA is better at getting it's message across without assloads of exposition, also the heroes aren't morally incomprehensible.
>>119920591
They're my two favourite shounen series, but Togashi's work ethic is atrocious by mangaka standards (completely reasonable by normal people standards though).
I like HxH more but I think FMA is more consistently written.
>females
>better than anything
Lmao good joke. Now fuck off back to tumblr you filthy transfeminist cuck.
>>119920522
>Allowed one of the perpetrators of a genocide to become the savior and benefactor of the people he slaughtered
>Had this same war criminal ultimately supported (with no visible qualms) by an Ishvalan person who was originally trying to disrupt the very system that allowed the war criminal to flourish, thereby undermining him further
>All but one Ishvalan was shown to be 'happy in suffering', effectively undermining that one character's feelings of anger
>Reduced an logical reaction to continued oppression to a 'roaring rampage of revenge' with no moral or practical salience whatsoever
>Best dad died
>>119920506
Loose ends were tied but that doesn't mean it's good ending.
The buildup that was made by the whole series didn't give a satisfying conclusion. The final fight felt ridiculous and too easy.
It wasn't bad but it wasn't good either.
>>119918217
Maybe only accidentally. Ranma 1/2 was never meant to appeal to males but it turned into an insane hit in the age 15-21 male range in Japan, and not just because of the genderbending.
>>119920188
For starters, you get that google results vary between individuals, even if you're not logged into google, right?
Second, I have Honey & Clover showing up as the 86th result, just two ahead of "Maple Leaves" (Momiji Ryouran), some random pulp romance nobody's ever heard of. So not the most compelling evidence for your argument. Not that Honey & Clover is bad.
>>119919022
D.Gray Man still has a special place in my heart because when I read the takobons a few years ago, up until the conclusion of the Akuma level 3 fight, and the Crown Clown power up, I believed that it was the best shonen ever made, or up there within the ranks of HxH and Gash Bell.
Looking back I still believe so, then it went to generic shonen shit but I'll still remain loyal to it.
>>119920465
>men writing shojou
Does that exist?
>>119920924
>Allowed one of the perpetrators of a genocide to become the savior and benefactor of the people he slaughtered
Things like that happen in our world too
>Had this same war criminal ultimately supported (with no visible qualms) by an Ishvalan person who was originally trying to disrupt the very system that allowed the war criminal to flourish, thereby undermining him further
You didnt understand scars character development.
>All but one Ishvalan was shown to be 'happy in suffering', effectively undermining that one character's feelings of anger
No they were more which also helped in the final fight with the seal
>Reduced an logical reaction to continued oppression to a 'roaring rampage of revenge' with no moral or practical salience whatsoever
What.
>Best dad died
It had to happen.
>>119918217
>Just finished pic related
Try organizing your thoughts after a week has passed and the post-read high has worn off, because right now that's affecting your bias.
>>119918257
It was pretty good for a while.
>>119921542
The 20 something chapters of flashbacks last year were unbearable, but the current arc is pretty enjoyable.
I was told a woman wrote Mushishi, also D.Gray-man was enjoyable.
Nope.
>>119921765
>I was told a woman wrote Mushishi
Yep.
>>119920924
This is a really good, well thought out criticism, but I honestly think your expectations are a little high for a battle shounen series. I wouldn't say the writing is bad just because such serious, complex concepts aren't executed perfectly.
>>119921879
She's actually pretty cute for her age, I wouldn't have believed she's almost 40.
Not really a "Battle Shounen" series but its my favourite late 80s show.
In terms of lewd series
Women >>>>>>Men.
Only a few chosen can match the perversion of women.
HxH IS SHIT FUCKING HORRIBLE YURI BULLSHIT
>>119922193
Agreed
>>119922167
This man knows.
I was really surprised to find out that the writers for the Rance games were all female, and that alicesoft in general is all female employees.
>>119922167
Seriously? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just really curious about this. What are some examples you have?
NO WAIFU NO LAIFU!!!!!!!!!
>>119920875
How's being 14 treating you?
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>>119922193
>HxH
>Yuri
You made me reply.
>>119922307
Kodomo no Jikan, was written and drawn by a woman. Its also the ultimate taboo perversion series.
Gud for you
>>119922320
lol you showed that shitlord
>>119922307
Does anyone have that screencap of female doujin artists with a huge list of names?
Wait was kill la kill made by a woman?
>>119922307
The author "Abgrund" (author known for excellent Yaoi traps), was a female, she was harassed and threatened to be killed if she made any more yaoi/shota a while ago.
>>119922307
Abgrund, XRATION, Kakifly, Kaworu Watashiya (Kodomo no Jikan), all the shoujo smut in existence.
Women are degenerates.
>>119918217
I dont know OP do you think Hitman Reborn and D. Gray man are good?
Shojos bad but your just a prick
>>119922625
I heard about that, what a shame that she ended up discontinuing the series.
The rest of her work is great though, http://exhentai.org/g/776572/e54c82e91d/
Go back to basments and jack off
Why you got FMA as the cover for this thread?
>>119922167
Much as I love Abgrund and Yuzuki, I've yet to see any female-made works as perverse as the likes of Asanagi and ShindoL.
>There are people in this thread that don't know the entire studio CLAMP used to be exclusively female in its high day.
>>119923146
Well that explains the art.
>>119923146
>Used to be
>Clamp (クランプ Kuranpu?), is an all-female Japanese manga artist group that formed in the mid-1980s. It consists of leader Nanase Ohkawa (大川 七瀬 Ōkawa Nanase?), who provides much of the storyline and screenplay for the group's works and adaptations and three artists whose roles shift for each series: Mokona (もこな Mokona?), Tsubaki Nekoi (猫井 椿 Nekoi Tsubaki?), and Satsuki Igarashi (いがらし 寒月 Igarashi Satsuki?). Almost 100 million Clamp tankōbon copies have been sold worldwide as of October 2007.[1]
The studio never stopped being exclusively female, get your facts right.
>>119923146
Why is Cardcaptors such an incredible show, the writing, characters, dialogue, scenes, music, everything about it is fantastic. Its bursting with originality, and remains one of the only shows I can rewatch without getting bored of.
Also all of the OPs are great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDBSV8DL1lU
So is Magi a better read than FMA?
>>119923146
>impliying
>>119921853
>best series a male mangaka can make
>made by a homo
>>119923474
Magi hasn't been good in a long time.
>>119923543
>married to Naoko Takeuichi
>"gay"
Motherfucker arguably got the most lucky pick of women on the planet and you're accusing him of being gay.
>>119923543
>Togashi
>homo
>>119922167
As far as I know there seems to be more male hentai artists, since majority of hentai does portray woman as pretty whorish and overly inclided to become attached to your average cut and paste mc, making them as flashy and attractive as possible with energetic personalities, along with amazing bodies. When it comes to female hentai and doujinshi authors from what i've seen they write women in different ways with problems and insecurities, along with being lustful, fragile, commanding, dominant, and generally more fluid characteristics that feel more human. The kind of characters that don't easily fall in love with the typical copy paste Mc but are still endearing with genuine reasons for falling in love. There are always special cases, but to make an example I could instantly tell Nozaki-kun was written by a female because of how fleshed out the female characters were.
>>119923814
>>119923818
>all that homo in his manga
>straight
being married proves nothing
>>119923814
I thought they divorced.
Riyoko Ikeda is a brilliant female writer, I haven't yet met a single anon that has called rose of versailles poorly written or shit.
>>119918217
Clearly women understand adolescent boys better than men do.
Your mom could write a great shonen manga!
>>119924080
Rose of Versailles is shit.
>>119923814
Why are they both so moe?
>>119924161
Maybe you should watch it.
>>119923678
I dropped it shortly after the alma torran arc started, has it really not gotten any better?
>>119923871
>I could instantly tell Nozaki-kun was written by a female because of how fleshed out the female characters were.
I thought this too, but never checked for confirmation.
>>119924183
Actually, I have. I was just being contrary.
>No one has yet mentioned Watamote
>>119924014
Still happily married. Still living off royalties. Still rich.
>>119924274
This is a thread about good female authors, Anon.
More specifically, good female authors that write Shonen.
>>119923871
>As far as I know there seems to be more male hentai artists, since majority of hentai
Way to prove that you know jack shit.
Any and all doujin events are dominated by fujos and women in general. Just because they aren't scanned doesn't mean that they don't exist. Bleach, One Piece, HxH, they all have tens of thousands of gay doujins. Only Touhou might be able to match that.
>>119924455
It derailed into a general female author discussion thread.
>>119924477
>Any and all doujin events are dominated by fujos and women in general
This might be true, but not all Yaoi artists are female, and i've seen plenty of female heterosexual doujin artists.
>>119922480
Illegal in the US
>>119920924
>Allowed one of the perpetrators of a genocide to become the savior and benefactor of the people he slaughtered
He may have dirty hands, but he was fully aware of what he of the destruction he was causing. He's the kind of person who would understand more than anyone why genocide like that should never happen again.
>Had this same war criminal ultimately supported (with no visible qualms) by an Ishvalan person who was originally trying to disrupt the very system that allowed the war criminal to flourish, thereby undermining him further
Change the system from the inside
>All but one Ishvalan was shown to be 'happy in suffering', effectively undermining that one character's feelings of anger
He wasn't happy in suffering, he even said he was doing his part to help because he was part ishvalan.
>>119925058
why?
>>119926424
Because it's trash for degenerates.
