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The historical inaccuracies in this are just too fucking glaring.
Please point them out to me in detail I love learning.
>>119682301
Why are those pikemen wearing such colorful uniforms
>>119682332
>french knights not on horses
>no french crossbows
>france sending the basic infantry in first
>england getting pushed back
>france winning
>>119682429
>witches
>dragons
Also, they were mercs.
>>119682301
Isn't this show about a witch that those loses her powers when she loses her virginity? I recall there being other supernatural beings as well, just pretend it's an alternate universe or something.
>>119682301
Mercenary corps.
They are strictly bring your own weapon-types.
>>119682708
Sort of like modern LARP events then?
>>119683010
LARP is strictly fantasy.
This is called medieval reenactment.
>>119683118
With witches.
>>119682301
the lack of hired Genoese crossbowmen is triggering my autism
>>119682301
>Mercenaries levied from nearby villages
>Having proper armor
>Having proper weapons
>>119682429
>He thinks that shitty comic was historical accurate
>He thinks it wasn't made by teeaboos
Protip: The French won the hundred year war
The anime is set after Joan of arc's death IIRC, and while it certainly isn't perfectly accurate, the only glaring inaccuracy I noticed were the gambesons having holes at the armpits, which means that they were probably based on reenactment replicas made by people who didn't know how to sew them properly.
>>119682429
>France winning
You are aware that the Battle of Crecy took place in 1346, and the anime is taking place after Jeanne D'arc's death (1431), right?
>>119682429
It takes place in the later stages of the war. Wich was pretty much perfid albion getting raped 24h/24h and not wanting to conclude peace on France's terms to stop the war because they were too buttdevastated to realize they no longer had any chance of winning.
>>119682301
Haven't watched the show yet, but I don't see anything inacurate here, unless it's supposed to be about a famous battle.
Also, I read a bit of the manga, and it's definitly not to be taken too seriously.
>>119682429
1. We saw one French knight, he gave a speech to the peasant levy and mercenary foot, from horseback.
2, So? They wouldn't have been among the infantry we saw anyway.
3. This is set after even Joan has been burned, they've learned a bit from Agincourt, Crecy and Poiters by now
4. See above, this is late war
5. They do win
>>119682429
>>france winning
Before WW2 French were pretty fucking badass.
>>119683994
>and not wanting to conclude peace on France's terms to stop the war
What bullshit, this is during the reign of Henry VI being a pacifistic moron whose weak and ineffectual leadership eventually brings about the War of the Roses, but in France his and Beaufort's policy of trying to bring about peace fails spectacularly as the French realise that with such a king they can get back their land and then some.
Atleast they got the part where there are witches and magic right.
Oh...
>>119684187
Surely you mean
>Before the Franco-Prussian war
>>119684187
>wrecked by Germany in WW1
>politically isolated for years before that
They were pretty shitty before WW2.
>>119684187
Why did the French give up on Algeria? Why was de Gaul such a coward?
>>119684187
Before the Franco-Prussian War, you mean. Since 1871 they've been Germany's bitch.
>>119684416
Nah, I think they stopped being good after the revolutions and ww1 seeing as they're the only country to revolt against the king, the revolution the general who led them, another king and the revolution after that all in a row.
tl:dr revolting for shits and giggles on a yearly basis is pretty badass.
>>119684589
WWI?
>>119682301
>French witch a pure
>English witch a slut
I could handle the other stuff, but I can only suspend my disbelief so far.
>>119684639
English women are notorious sluts though.
>>119684416
>>119684589
They still performed pretty well in WW1.
>>119684553
Why did all Europe give up on their colonies? Rebellions were being funded both by the USA and by the USSR at the time, and, after ww2, nobody really wanted to fight anymore, so they figured that it wasn't worth keeping them.
>>119682402
There was no reason for camo back then.
>>119684604
You DO know that franco-prussian war happened in late XIXth century, hence after revolution and before WW1 ?
By the way, the revolution wasn't the only badass time. The war with pretty much all of Europe after that was pretty badass as well.
>>119684653
>All these cavalrymen died during the first hours of the Marnes.
>>119684653
Capitalism makes colonies pointless.
Bonds of debt are much more powerful than bonds of ownership.
>>119682429
>knights must fight on horses
I hope you don't really think knights always fought on horseback.
>>119684705
>The war with pretty much all of Europe after that was pretty badass as well.
Which time? It happened about three times in France's history.
>>119684808
From 1792 to 1802. Which is right after the revolution.
>There will never be anything about the Italian Wars
Look at the fucking Belligerents changing during the years.
>>119684744
Not to mention, the Europeans were putting a lot of money into them, building infrastructure and stuff like that.
>>119685116
The first republic is the coolest French era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HFF9gnlY3c
>>119685116
1792-1802 only comprises the first two coalitions. You're missing 5 more.
>>119684744
WW2 drained and weakened the European colonial powers. They really couldn't hold on to them when they faced real resistance.
>>119685226
>there will never be an animated series about the Thirty Years' War
>there will never be an animated series about the Great Northern War
>there will never be an animated series about the Reconquista
>>119685559
>wanting to relive the Great Northern War
No thank you.
>>119685559
>There will never be an animated series about the Gallic Wars
>There will never be an animated series about the Liberators War.
>There will never be an animated series about the Third Serviles War and the Social Wars.
>>119685226
What in the fuck
Was that war fought by a bunch of spastics?
>>119685559
>>there will never be an animated series about the Reconquista
San Iago, Parton of Spain, I pray for a Reconquista anime.
I'd also like to see a historically accurate Joan of Arc anime.
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>>119686878
So, I heard you like yourself some Reconguista.
>No anime about the Battle of Lepanto
I want to see an animated sequence of the Virgin Mary interceding to secure victory for the Holy League against the Ottoman fleet.
>>119682429
>french knights not on horses
No TRUE knight
>>119685694
>There will never be an animated series about cossacs
>There will never be an animated series about Teutonic Knights
>thinking history is legitimate
>>119685559
>there will never be an animated series about the Thirty Years' War
Well, there's Horizon... kind of.
>>119685559
Thirty Years' War, with genderbender lolis.
>>119687883
>genderbender lolis
So, shota?
Also, they'd turn over 30 years old before the war is over.
Wait, do you try to tell me there where no witches and magic back then?
>>119687952
>implying true lolis ever grow up
But seriously, it would be fun to see TYW done similarly to how Oda Nobuna and similar novels/manga/anime/games did Sengoku period.
>>119687883
She's not genderbent, but here's the Horizon interpretation of Anne of Austria.
>>119684541
>Anyone, but especially Germany, wrecking anyone in WW1
Failing in nearly all of your key objectives doesn't constitute wrecking anon.
>>119685559
>There will never be an anime about the Second Punic War
There's hardly anything about that war. Such a wasted opportunity,
>>119688201
I should probably read novels of that stuff.
Though I remember I had a hard time following dialogs in anime during the negotiations scenes.
>historical inaccuracies
>in fiction
If you want realism, anime is not the place to find it.
>>119688411
You should.
The negotiations are a lot easier to follow in text form, mostly because they're more elaborated and commented upon than what is possible in 20 minute episodes.
>>119687332
nips have boner for ottomans though
>>119682301
I know, right. What they fuck were they thinking making this piece of shit, it's like they never read a history book. I mean I'm almost certain the French and English didn't all speak Japanese. What a load of bullshit this anime is.
>Why did all Europe give up on their colonies?
France just lost a war in Vietnam when Algeria entered the equation, and colonial splendor isn't quite so alluring when there are kebabs blowing shit up and having gun battles in the streets of Paris.
>>119684729
Probably not--cavalry was still very useful and practical until the lines solidified, so until the battle of the marne ended and both sides dug in, the cavalry most likely still played major roles, after which they probably just got rid of the horses and served as infantry thereafter.
>>119688598
>nips have boner for ottomans though
Do they? Shoukoku no Altair is the only kebab-related piece I can remember off the top of my head.
>>119687952
What the fuck?
Since the preview came out everyone been jizzing over how historically accurate it is since the peasants are barefoot and the arrows bounce off the armor and everyone is using blunt force, and now people are saying it's the most historically inaccurate thing ever?
I'm not a history buff so I don't know who to believe now.
Disregarding all the accuracy bullshit,
Is it actually an enjoyable anime?
>>119688844
Who cares about that?
>>119688781
It's almost as if different people with varying levels of knowledge (real and perceived) of late medieval warfare and combat might have varying degrees of satisfaction with the show's depiction.
>>119688844
Only one episode's come out so far, it's a little early to figure out just yet.
I want to fuck her and abolish her powers.
>Character literally references Joan of Arc's execution, meaning this is the very late stages of the war
>People bitching that everything isn't playing out like Crecy/Agincourt
Why are some people so dense
>>119688781
It's more historically accurate than most anime or manga depicting medieval european warfare, don't let the negative nancies get you down.
Those weren't nights fighting on foot but footmen and mercs, and the actual knights were on horseback.
>>119686463
Not spastics, just Italians.
>>119689005
Not dense. They just think they know more than they do. Just like the guys who complained about the push of pike.
>>119682301
>expecting Japs to know Euro history
>>119689121
>expecting Euros to know Euro history
Differently from America, Europe has thousands of years of internal strife and intrigue.
>>119689121
Some Japs know more than others.
>>119689354
>Earth was warmer during the middle ages
global warming fags btfo
>>119689492
Global warming is expected to kill the ice age we're supposed to be entering right about now.
>>119689492
lel
>>119689354
>Chile never getting any respect for it contribution to the world
Why live...
>>119688921
Literally Hitler.
>>119682332
Most witches in the middle ages were men, so there's that.
Think less Buffy type and more modern African witchdoctor. You know, the kind that chop up albinos for rituals. To cite a much later popular example, seven of the accused witches put to death at the Salem Witch Trials were middle-aged men.
The whole modern witches-as-medicine-women idea was created by amateur anthropologist and folklorist, Margaret Alice Murray, in 1917. Her idea's were capitalized on by Gerald Gardner, founder of Wicca in the 1940's. And that's how people now think witches were female pagan healers persecuted by a heavy-handed church, instead of creepy neck-beard nut-jobs selling curses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Murray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner_%28Wiccan%29
>>119683728
>teeaboos
This made me giggle more than it should of
>>119683728
>Protip: The French won the hundred year war
I thought it was the USA
>>119689592
>Chile
>existing at that point
>>119682301
Atleast it's colourful.
>>119688844
Yes.
>>119684744
Imperialism and theories like those were refuted a long time ago, anon.
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I've only watched the pre-air, but was this line the same in the Funimation release?
It was the only glaring inaccuracy I found, assuming the sub as accurate
>>119686463
Italy was a weird place to live. Alliances were formed and split at the drop of a hat. They were pretty petty people, too.
>>119689898
Good argument.
You sure convinced me.
>>119689769
>that helm with a bust of a lady in a basket
What?
>>119690112
Money doesn't necessarily buy style.
>>119684187
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nicopolis
>French knights yet again lose a battle by being impetuous idiots.
Fun fact: The French only won the 100 years war because in the first 50 years they managed to kill enough of their nobility to learn actual tactics.
>>119689968
>Popes going around waging war with everyone
>foreign princes going and coming as they please
>merc armies fighting one another like sports matches
>Arab pirates raiding regularly
>Venetians jewing everyone
Medieval Italy was fucking crazy
>>119689937
>>119690424
Left best girl
>>119690424
Much better.
>>119690231
Why hasn't anyone ever made a movie or show of the time where there were TWO popes basically splitting the catholic church.
And it was all masterminded by the Barberossa.
What a Master Troll.
Any webm or stitches request?
>>119682567
>Also, they were mercs.
Like most medieval forces, they were mostly levies.
>>119690583
Because to a lot of people, the pope is sacred.
You remember the shitstorm that Dogma caused?
>>119685226
How did Venice steal both HRE and the Papacy from the enemy onto their side?
>>119690817
Dogma upset people because it was a disrespectful of Catholicism. Making a movie about the Avignon Papacy would be fine as long as it wasn't some secularist attack on the Church, which knowing Hollywood, it probably would be.
>>119690875
They also defect to the side that was their original enemy. War in the past sure was amazing.
>>119684541
>>wrecked by Germany in WW1
That is wrong.
Fucking up the Schlieffen-Von Moltke Plan and forcing them into trench warfare despite Germany having a higher population and a greater industrial base than France.
>>119689530
I heard it was going to pamper it pretty severely, but killing it altogether? I mean, that doesn't sound unrealistic but whoa, that's bad.
>>119689559
Is this from Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere?
>>119683728
Nobody really won the 100 years war. It was disasterous for both sides
>>119685226
Seems like Venice's strategy was:
>If you can't beat them, just confuse the hell out of them until nobody has any idea what this is about anymore. Then proclaim victory.
Sounds like the average shitflinging contest on /a/.
>>119682301
at least it looks nice and doesn't have retarded outfits everywhere. also its about a magical girl in the middle ages, so I would think that is the biggest historical inaccuracy right there
>>119690032
If you want arguments go read a book. I recommend The Question of Imperialism: The Political Economy of Dominance and Dependence by Benjamin J. Cohen
>>119684553
>Why did the French give up on Algeria?
The army's attempt at torturing and using atrocities to tame the population turned the native population against them as well as those in metropole when all of it leaked. Didn't help that the military tried to coup the 4th Republic.
>>119687883
The protestants as lolis or the Catholics? The HRE or the Protestant princes or France?
>>119691257
Yes.
>>119688236
Romans destroy shit, salt more ground. Also no elephants crossing the Alps this time.
little girl roman legionnaire anime when?
>>119691105
France came out with more territory than it had when the war started, though.
>>119691072
Yup. Volume 2A, specifically.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Kyoukai_Senjou_no_Horizon
>>119688761
I always question if Shoukoku no Altair is just the mangaka having fun dressing the MCs in different costumes.
>>119682301
Its cg like that Beserk movie scenes?
>>119685226
Holy shit Spain, what are you doing?
>>119690583
There's been a lot of times where there were two popes. There's even been a period where there were three popes. Then, people decided that fuck, if they had to deny the influence of the pope, they might as well just go ahead and secede from the Catholic church.
>>119688761
Damn if it isn't great though. But Altair is pretty much an alternate universe take on the events given how either China or Japan invented guns.
But speaking of historical series that aren't accurate, I think Gunka would be pretty interesting for an anime adaptation.
>>119684744
>Capitalism makes colonies pointless.
Actually capitalism is the entire point for colonies as a means to regulate the balance of trade. India as an example, the British were able to harvest raw materials for their textile mills at bottom barrel prices then reimport the finished goods back to India at higher mark by the use of trade barriers against foreign competitors.
I want an anime about the muslims conquering and occupying Spain. Or maybe a doujin about the fate of all the nuns there
>>119691503
That's mercantilism. It benefits capitalists, but it's not really "capitalism" as we know it.
>>119685226
This is the shit that's happening in the Cesare manga right?
>>119690875
Alliances changed during wars all the time back then. Sometimes it happened for convenience, sometimes it happened when a monarch died and policies changed with the new ruler.
>>119691539
That'd be pretty boring, most of it was "That guy who you call king is a pansy ass faget. I'm your boss now".
>>119691539
Converso traitor, please leave.
>>119691030
Apparently, modern Italy picked up a lot of the tactics from Venice, since they did just that in WWI and WWII.
>one or eleven errors
>shit show
>show me a show that has done less error and have decent scale combat scene that is actually shown not skipped with text
>>119691539
I'd prefer one about Spain golden age, with Muslim lolis, Jewish lolis and Christian lolis all working in the same cafe with cute maid uniforms.
>>119691486
Gunka would be fun, I wonder if we'll see more naval warfare seeing how the Holbeck are occupying the sea.
>>119691642
That was after they lost/close to losing though. The Venice in that war seem to be having the advantage and they just jumped over to the other faction.
>>119689636
Only in Northern Europe though.
>>119682429
>french knights not on horses
You do realize that the invention of pikes has rendered horseback fighting useless, right?
Even the cavalry charge of the 19th century can easily be annihilated by basic bayonets, let alone giant spears.
>>119691390
Not just the MC. His entire entourage get to change outfits regularly with him as they travel.
The only characters who aren't part of his group that get to change clothes a lot are Lederick and her lackey because they are the only ones worth a damn under Louis.
>>119689636
It makes sense to not want to kill all of your baby-makers. But in the eyes of the inquisition anyone could worship satan and perform dark rituals, and men were seen as more capable in everything anyways including the occult
>>119691030
Sometimes this is exactly like my CK2!
>>119691412
>Spain
>ever not fucking up
>>119685226
Scotland, we know you have a hateboner for England, but do you really have to join a war half way across the world from you?
>>119689769
>32
Medieval ballers are real, we're not so different after all.
>>119691788
That's bullshit. Pikes have existed since antiquity, and it never made cavalry useless. Gunpowder and modern vehicles made cavalry useless.
>>119691702
Maybe, I didn't wanna spoil myself with raws but judging from the latest chapter Rudolf is gonna try to pull a fast one and force a ceasefire so it might have to be pushed back for awhile. Then again Rudolf hasn't exactly pulled shit off keikaku doori ever since the flash back so I don't know.
>>119691868
You can defect in CK2? Teach me your secret.
>>119691486
>But Altair is pretty much an alternate universe take on the events given how either China or Japan invented guns.
The chinks got as far as portable firearms, so moving to guns isn't too big a stretch. It's just Europe learned to make them much, much better.
Gunka's also pretty good, the two've always went together in my mind.
>>119685226
All the rest are countries, but the dutchy of Ferara said fuck you to everyone and threw their two or three stickmen into the fight.
>>119691687
>The Jewish loli feigns conversion to Christianity and secretly conspires with the Muslim loli to overthrow the Christian loli's dominion over the cafe.
>>119682301
Yeah man, witches were nothing like depicted.
>>119691335
Did they win Normandy finally?
>>119691941
MODERN gunpowder made cavalry useless. Cavalry was still useful well into the World War II.
>>119691335
And the fighting was all on their land, fucking them up massively.
Territory isn't the only measurement.
>>119691990
Witches were crazy old women who did shrooms in the forest and sold dubious potions. That's not moe.
>>119682301
still better than shit I see on /co/
>>119691105
What? France pretty much united its territory after the war (well, after taking Burgundy).
It's the population that suffered (like in any war).
>>119691577
Ahhh, I see. Thanks anon!
>>119692032
>well into ww2
Cavalry has had no combat purpose since WW1. That's simply a fact. And by WW2 they served no purpose at all.
>>119682301
what anime is this? I love history anime but don't know many ;_;
>>119691974
You don't quite understand what armies looked like in the middle ages, do you?
>>119691941
I meant in the main field. Pikemen have been known to slaughter every single mounted knight that gets in their range.
Their sight alone has been known to demoralize entire platoons
>>119691969
No that wasn't what I really implied. I'm saying they invented it, then they somehow lost the technology due to burning the tiny kingdom that produced it or something.
There's no fucking way chinks would do that. Look at Qin and the crossbow. They spammed that shit harder than bronze scrubs did 4 raxing marines back during early SC2.
And it's not like Altair didn't keep chinkland's attitude accurate. Even the old geezer is a sly fox at the end of the day. MC just happened to be able to afford his help.
French knights are descended from vikings. You don't fuck with vikings, or if you do you play it dirty
>>119691486
I don't get. You mean in Altair the Chinese did not invent guns? They actually invented guns in real life.
>>119682429
>guaranteed replies.
>>119692107
maria the virgin witch.
>>119692111
>polish hussar
>>119692015
Yes. They won everything on the mainland except for a few cities, which they got later.
>>119692032
By ww2, it was pretty much a relic of the past, even though they were used a bit. Horses were used mostly for transport at the time.
>>119692038
It doesn't matter, they still won. By your logic, the USSR lost ww2 as well since they lost tens of millions of people.
>>119692104
To be fair, cavalry did contribute a bit to fighting in ww2, but only just a bit.
>>119692111
You're still wrong. You said it "rendered horseback fighting useless", which is blatantly wrong since they were still useful from the middle-age to the 19th century.
![[Wasurenai-imuR88] Bihada Ichizoku - 03 [H264 1280x720] [61D68734].mkv_snapshot_05.56_[2014.08.20_15.04.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/St75GDB.jpg "[Wasurenai-imuR88] Bihada Ichizoku - 03 [H264 1280x720] [61D68734].mkv_snapshot_05.56_[2014.08.20_15.04.54].jpg")
Place your bets on how long Maria the Virgin Witch threads will be 100 Years War history circlejerks
My guess is four episodes, that's about how many episodes it took for Muv Luv Tortilla Chips threads to stop being solely about how to remove BETA
>>119691941
Heavy Cavalry didn't exist into some point far into the dark ages.
Before that, everyone rode small ponies.
>>119691789
Remind me again. Ledreik - the trader?
>>119692161
No, they did in Altair. However, it was a small kingdom within China or perhaps it was Japan that did. Either way, the greater whole of Cinali aka China in Altair took that kingdom down in some civil war or some shit and burned the technology away instead of stealing it for themselves.
It's one thing for chinks to burn books about ideologies and what not, but military technologies? Yeah right.
>>119692104
>Cavalry has had no combat purpose since WW1.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
German, French and Belgian cavalry played a major role in the opening actions of World War I, and cavalry was extremely viable (and used extensively) by the Russians, Austrians and Germans on the eastern front. During the Polish-bolshevik war cavalry also played a pivotal role.
>And by WW2 they served no purpose at all.
Soviet cavalry played a major role in the Russian theatre, and Polish cavalry with horsedrawn AT guns were quite successful in the early actions of the war.
>>119692107
Junketsu no Maria
>>119691938
32a
That pope hat.
>>119692221
>You're still wrong. You said it "rendered horseback fighting useless"
Yes, it was an exaggeration but my point is that, after the pikes were perfected, the purpose of the cavalry was pushed back into scouting, flanking, and transport.
Never in the main field again
Literraly every knights dismounted whenever they enter the battlefield.
>>119692260
No I'm talking about best girl. You know the only villain that isn't completely one dimensional in the empire.
>>119691989
When do we gets to the moe moe inquisition?
>>119682429
different battles have different strategies.
and france won the 100 years war, you butthurt bong.
>>119692348
Flanking counts as being on the main field. But yeah, obviously they weren't going to just make a frontal charge on pikes. Everyone knows that.
When did France take over Brittany?
>>119692394
It will beunexpected.
>>119692348
Not every battle is going to be against a bunch of pikemen who are set up behind stakes. Flanking is a common practice anyways
>>119692289
Since WW1, meaning after. They saw plenty of use during it initially, but warfare as a whole changed throughout the course of the war. By the end their purpose had almost entirely eroded.
And horsedrawn carts isn't cavalry, anon.
>>119692109
Feudal Lords raising conscription?
Please clarify anon.
>>119691590
You don't think the dramatic 180 change in daily life would make for an interesting slice of life?
>>119692129
What are the other nation analogy again?
Why do people say the hundred years war was England vs France?
It wasn't. It was House Anjou vs House Valois. It just happened that among their titles, House Anjou had the Kingdom of England.
Both sides had French and non-French allies. And both were French families with good claims on the throne.
The war was decided mostly on who had the strongest French allies (IIRC, Burgundy and Brittany) and had the Anjou won, what would actually happen is that King of the French would be their main title.
>>119692384
>Kingdom's most powerful woman is queen of the mountain people
>Altair's most powerful warrior is a duchess of a mountain fiefdom
>Ravages most competent female, the MC's wife, has a family name that literally means mountain
Is there some clever reference I'm missing out on or is this a string of coincidence?
>>119692237
But that was the most entertaining part of /a/. Remember the /a/ war conference on BETA image?
>>119690112
Don't judge, that's his waifu. He only made it back alive because she was protecting him.
>>119685559
Man, I want a Reconquista anime so fucking bad. Or a Musou game, or something. Japan can make everything more interesting, and I honestly just want to see Portugal in anime done right.
>>119692399
>>119692450
Which...unfortunately is easier said than done.
It takes only a single pear to nuetralize a knight and its mount.
It was so difficult in fact that the first cavalry charge that actually worked in its attempt to flank the artillery was recorded in history as also the last.
I cannot remember the name of that battle though, sorry
>>119691943
>force a ceasefire
That's a shame, well I hope we get to see the Hobeck attempting to storm a well fortified and entrenched beach atleast once, the machine gun against the elite cavalry make me want to see more one sided killing.
>>119692384
Ah her. My bad.
I do have to catch up to all these chapter I missed after the bird poop island arc.
>>119692509
I have no idea how their life changed but given there were different law and districts for jews, muslims and christians I'm guessing not much. Now I'm curious though.
>>119692525
I actually don't remember, chinkland was easy since they were obviously chinks and the map clearly showed Cinali in China's territory. It dwarfed Balt Rhein like nothing after all.
>>119692452
>Since WW1, meaning after.
The Polish-bolshevik war was in 1920, anon.
>They saw plenty of use during it initially, but warfare as a whole changed throughout the course of the war.
Yes, and Canadian cavalry still charged at the end of the hundred day's offensive.
>And horsedrawn carts isn't cavalry, anon.
Again, you still have no idea what you're talking about. Cavalry. With sabers and rifles. The Soviets used them well into the war for breakthroughs and intercepting supply lines. Again, they sustained huge losses, but that could be said for the Soviet Union as a whole.
>>119692607
>Which...unfortunately is easier said than done.
Writing up every battle as being a picture perfect example of what you think every battle was like is easier said than done, anon
>>119692509
But Spain was always Muslim and Berber before the Reconquesta? The kingdom of Austuria was tiny and to the North before.
>>119692348
Both hussars and dragoons were very useful up into the 19th century especially during the napoleonic war. It's just that they had to be used in conjuction with artillery/canon and infantry support to break up and destroy infantry formations.
>>119692606
>Man, I want a Reconquista anime so fucking bad.
>inb4 G-Reco
>>119692269
Ah, I see. Yeah, the Chinese would be unlikely to do that.
>>119692707
Too late. >>119687054
>>119692701
The Muslims took Spain from the Visigoths.
>>119692607
Look at this nigger not knowing shot about combined arms
>>119692560
Brittany counts as a strong ally? Do you mean Britain or the count of Brittany in the peninsula?
>>119691702
For WWI, sure. WWII was something else, as the Kingdom of Italy shifted to the Allies' side when they outed Mussolini. Venice didn't jump over to other faction though, they got threatened to get the League of Cambrai on their ass by the pope because they weren't okay with the intrigues surrounding the way the pope, the Spaniards and the Holy Roman Empire wanted to split the conquered territories in 1513.
Who summoned /k/?
>>119692561
The huns anon.
The huns.
MC has a wife?
>>119692606
How is it going to work? POLITICS with Spain or Fuck your shit, I am conquring the new world?
Where did Portugal originate from anyways?
>>119687332
>Two months later, at the Battle of Lepanto, the united Christian fleet destroyed the Ottoman fleet, but was unable to take advantage of this victory. The Ottomans quickly rebuilt their naval forces, and Venice was forced to negotiate a separate peace, ceding Cyprus to the Ottomans and paying a tribute of 300,000 ducats.
A blip on the Ottoman radar. They won the war.
>>119692772
>a thread about historical accuracy in a depiction of medieval warfare
What were you expecting?
>tfw no wooden warship anime set in the atlantic ocean
>>119691926
The war was mainly in Northern Italia, but England got into the fray to get some more clay in Northern France, so the King of France told the King of Scotland to attack England to distract the English.
But it didn't work.
>>119692702
And they were recorded to be easy preys for the bayonets
>>119692747
My point is that the mounted combat is not as practical as the movies make it seem to be
>>119692654
>Balt Rhein
Is this HRE or Byzantine?
Ottomans were primarily struggling against the remenants of the Byzantine Empire at that time.
>>119692613
Hey that's just my gut feeling, maybe the fort siege will go through first. Still my opinion is that Rudolf wouldn't let Holbeck go full retard. If Captain Nielson was considered an elite, then I'd hate to see what the infantry under the normal commanders would do. Maybe they don't even carry guns and just charge with axes?
Holbeck's just crazy period. Why the fuck would you pillage and killing people in the territory that you are trying to take back anyways?
>>119692856
>the movies
What movies? Were we even talking about "the movies" in the first place? Are you pulling out a strawman now?
>>119692668
Their usage was still coming from nations that were relatively under equipped. They were used by the soviets because they couldn't logistically support motorized transports, not because they were an effective method of combat.
There's a reason every major western military had phased them out completely.
>>119692744
Ahhh my bad. Thanks anon!
>>119692907
Horses still had a niche to fill though. Nothing changes that.
>>119692907
I think that horse-mounted units were used quite effectively in Scandinavia and Canada - large regions covered in snow and ice.
>>119692854
This is exactly like my family drama!
>>119692811
The huns had an overpowered woman? I only know Atila the hun.
And yeah, the MC in Ravages is already a full fledged adult in the current chapter with a kid on the way. And the series isn't even half over.
>>119692824
They replace the ships, but too many experienced sailors had died that they avoided any further push into Europe and high-risk confrontation with Christian forces.
>>119692907
>There's a reason every major western military had phased them out completely.
Like France and Germany?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_II
>>119692866
We need Hox or someone who knows his shit, I can't figure it out between the two either.
>>119693022
I need to catch up.
I meant more as a people of the mountain/steeple.
>>119687054
I don't think anyone likes autistic girls.
>>119692907
>Their usage was still coming from nations that were relatively under equipped.
>There's a reason every major western military had phased them out completely.
You are aware every single major nation, regardless of equipment, had organic cavalry at the outset of the war, and some of them (Germany and the USSR) still used them at the end of the war? Germany was hardly "under equipped" and they continued to use cavalry as late as 1945. The Soviets, who by 1944, WERE capable of making as many tanks as they damn well pleased, still actively used cavalry. They were still an effective method of combat.
>>119689636
So witches were less Maria, and more like Kaiki Deiishuu?
>>119692872
Let's be fair now. Baltzar is way ahead of the curve, even those fancy generals in Weiben would have been slaughtered if they were in the same position.
People were still old fashioned no matter which nation they belonged to.
>>119693091
She cured herself of autism just recently anon. Keep up
>>119691921
But that is Lord Fucking Nelson.
>>119693050
>france
>WW2
Worked out really well for them!
>>119693125
So it is fun to watch now?
>>119693140
The country that beat them (Germany) and one of the nations that won it all (Soviet Union), also still used organic cavalry until the end of the war. Point is the "under equipped" part is pure bullshit.
>>119691921
>ironically naming the spanish fleet invincible
English dickery at its finest
>>119692811
The Reconquista had quite a bit of intrigue between the Christian states and even within the Muslim invaders (mostly conflict between Berbers and Arabs). There were even times of cooperation between Christian and Muslim leaders to ensure peace.
Spanish territories at that time was actually formed by several kindoms. Portugal was just a county that revolted, succeeded in becoming independent and ended up being successful in war against its neighbors, even against the Spanish.
The age of discoveries was a different time-period altogether (but still somehow linked by certain events). It would also make great fiction fodder.
>>119693083
Oh okay. I was mainly referring to manga that keeps showing very powerful or influential females and having them come from the mountains.
Actually, that old grandmother in A Bride's Story was also a mountain woman, and she was obviously the strongest character in the series by a country mile. No one could fuck with her, even with rifles.
>>119693245
Germany didn't have problems building tanks, but they had huge trouble with oil. You could very well call them under-equipped.
>>119693226
Well rairaraya is an actual character now and not an awkward tag-along, so its better.
>>119692751
The Duke of Brittany. An independent duke to the west of France.
>>119693289
>but they had huge trouble with oil
Certainly not in 1939-1940. Calling them under-equipped is pretty dishonest.
>>119693311
But is the story still as retarded as ep 1?
Sorry to interrupt your history debates, but I really hope someone makes a webm of that archer getting shot down. That was strangely hilarious to me.
>>119693226
I think now that things have actually been properly established and explained, Tomino's inane dialogues and pacing are easier to follow.
>>119693245
Soviets won through raw numbers,industrial output and resources. They were woefully underequipped by any measure. They are exactly the kind of country described as technologically backwards
>>119692900
(just got back)
I was thinking that you believe that the mounted knights are actually as useful as what is shown local entertainment shows.
Glad to see you're not.
>>119693364
the story is just a mechanism for having a big fight every episode with the main gundam using a different add-on each episode. does it really matter?
>>119691845
>the inquisition
The Spanish Inquisition (the killing one) was about hunting Jews and Protestants, not witches.
>>119693266
Independence from Galacia?
>>119691969
Chinese didn't have the need in guns at that time. War-thorn Europe did, though.
>>119693405
>They are exactly the kind of country described as technologically backwards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34
>The finest tank in the world —Field Marshal Paul Ludwig Ewald von Kleist
>>119693405
Technologically they were fine.
They just didn't have logistical capability.
>>119693435
That bad? Even Gundam Wing never descended to that level!
>>119693402
Good to know.
