Why do people complain about Shinji being whiny when Asuka is a way worse offender? She angsts, whines and bitches far more than Shinji who is quiet and does his job well unlike her.
Everybody in NGE is a broken, shit human being.
>>119368648
Asukafags would rather bend backwards than admit their waifu is a shit.
>>119368732
But Shinji gets a disproportionate amount of hate.
>>119368648
>Why do people complain about Shinji being whiny
Because they try to self-insert into Shinji and have a really bad experience because he's not a teenager's power fantasy.
>>119368856
It takes them way too long to get the point of the anime which is Shinji's character, and that he's not just a "whiny beta".
>>119368750
The amount of praise she gets for being a shit is really amazing
>>119368648
I had the same reaction when I watched it again after more than 10 years, she was far more annoying than shinji and the most incompetent pilot
yeah, NGE Asuka is basically the worst pilot and character.
She's a cute girl. Shinji would get the same treatment if he was also a cute girl.
>>119369133
That's the privilege of being fap material.
>>119370309
I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a heterosexual Kaworu/Shinji pairing.
>>119370354
Gender swap everyone and everything gets better
Asuka gets a pass from most people because she's a cute girl
Shinji gets shit on because whenever Evangelion is discussed on the internet, everyone suddenly transforms into true alpha males who would totally get in the robot and fuck every single girl in the show.
>>119370173
I felt the same way when I watched it for the first time. All I knew prior it that Shinji was insufferable and Asuka was the best thing ever but when i watched she was so damn annoying and Shinji was the best at his job and way less annoying.
>>119370399
Genderswap everyone and you basically have Angelic Layer.
>>119370354
You don't have to worry about that.
>>119370309
Shinji is pretty plain though. If she was up against Asuka and Rei she'd get shat on too. Especially if Asuka and Rei became bishounen, they'd have legions of fangirls.
>>119368856
it's because he isnt a girl and thus has no other redeeming qualities
>>119370309
I think I loved Noriko from Gunbuster so much because she was a female Shinji.
I like Shinji more than I like my waifu.
>>119370515
I don't think fangirls are the primary source of hate for Shinji.
Pic seems relevant for this discussion.
Asuka is my favorite character in NGE, and one of my favorite characters in all fiction.
But ya, she is a real shit.
Shinji gets it harder because he is the MC, and people try and self insert into him, and when he doesn't do what they want, they get angry and blame him.
>>119368648
Because Shinji's a man and Asuka's not.
>people still hate on Shinji
>>119370438
I might get in the robot and I'd definitely fuck the alcoholic cake.
>>119370794
No, I mean if you made Shinji a girl and Asuka/Rei boys, NGE fanbase would be very different and a girl like Shinji would get a lot of hate all the same. "Weak" girls like that in fanbases with a lot of women tend to get hate. The most popular thing would be shipping Asuka and Rei together.
>>119371183
I don't think the demographics would shift that much. It would still be a giant robot show regardless of the characters you dropped into it and those are a genre with a majority of male fans.
I watched the intro a few times first and then all the episodes/movies.
Oscar was the only character whom I kinda expected to be like this. All the other characters turned out to be almost the complete opposite.
>>119370794
So you get Zanyou no Terror
because moe waifu fags don't understand that every character has the same problems
-when shinji is sad
>what a pussy faggot lol i'd give a million bucks to be in your position
-when asuka is sad
>oh no mai waifu!!!!!1 *cries*
If Shinji was a girl, and acted the exact same way as he does now, dumbass weeaboos would be all over that
>muh waifu is in danger!!!!!!!
>multi-billion state of the art cyber-ayylmaos-war machines
>biggest underground bunker city funded, protected (not build) by UN and every nation left in the world
>THEY CAN'T MEDICATE OR GIVE THERAPY TO THEIR PILOTS
Evangelion is so DEEEEEEEEEP, you must keep sucking that delicious yellow tiny hedgehog dick from Anno, may his cum fulfill you with happiness and bliss.CONGRATULATIONS!
>>119371288
>>119371288
Who the fuck is Oscar
>>119371400
My money is on Asuka, sounds similar.
>>119371400
It's Oscar, his robot is the red one.
>>119371265
It definitely would shift. It would be a shoujo mecha. With a predominately male cast and one girl MC, it would change drastically.
>>119371400
>>119371453
I got some dubbed version first which made her sound like Oscar. And it's a common German name so that's what I am gonna call her from now on.
>>119368648
I only like Asuka because she's the most interesting character next to Misato and Gendo. Everyone else is irrelevant and therefore shit.
Also I don't like emotionless waifu bait.
Thanks for reading, I'm out.
Asukafags seems to like the idea of Asuka more than Asuka herself. For them Asuka is just a hotblooded tsundere instead of the insecure annoying brat that she really is
>>119368648
Asuka fights when shinji is crying, thats why I like her.
>>119371517
I don't think it would be drastic. Girl Shinji would be a little unusual but other than that it would be pretty standard mecha character wise.
>>119371863
No it wouldn't. It would become pseudo reverse harem. It definitely wouldn't retain the same fanboys the show has today.
>>119372023
Probably not. I don't think girl Kaworu would have the same staying power either but I might be wrong on that.
>>119372177
he definitely wouldn't
She is hot as fuck.
I'm sure if asukefags were to meet her they would end up annoyed after 20 minutes
>>119369133
>>119368750
Asuka was shit.
Anno knew that himself, that's why he spent so much time being butthurt about it. It's why he made his new Evangelion where Asuka was somehow less shit.
>b-but h-her character!
Nobody ever gave a fuck about her character. No one, not Asukafags, not even Hideaki Anno. Him, Tsurumaki, the rest only want Asuka to be cute.
The entire Asukafag fanbase has spent their entire existence pretending Asuka wasn't shit.
All three main characters are annoying little fuckers and I can't believe people can't see this.
>>119368648
For men: she's a cute girl, so she gets a pass from otaku.
For women: she's written in a realistic and relateable manner, which is why she's the most popular girl for female viewers.
>>119373595
This
Shinji is a sissy fag
Asuka is a bitch with permanent PMS
Rei have close to no personality
Both girls are there as a embodiment of a fetish and the MC is just a self insert for losers.
>>119373732
>she's the most popular girl for female viewers
In Japan, right? Because I never met a girl who likes Asuka IRL
she isn't the main character
>>119368648
Hot blooded tsunderes give me undying boners
What's not to like? Stop being faggots.
>>119373840
>In Japan, right?
Yes. Pretty much in Japan only.
Meanwhile, otaku hate Shinji and he gets a lot of flack both in Japan and the west because he doesn't fit the male power fantasy self-inserting role. Japan used to like him, but the influx of betas that began to plague harem shows for a while turned them off.
On the other hand, girls in both Japan and the west love Shinji because they find him relatable. Not to mention his feminine demeanor and romantic relationship towards Kaworu attracts the fujoshits like wildfire.
>>119374047
>he doesn't fit the male power fantasy self-inserting role
How?
He get to pilot a giant robot and fight aliens, he automatically becomes the best at it, he have three and one space gay jesus girls wanting his dick, and he is the one who decides the ultimate fate of humanity. And gain, I never met a irl who likes Shinji, Kaworu and Kaiji seems to be the most popular male characters
>>119370970
Misato is the best girl.
>>119374047
>flack
flak*
SHINJI YOU FUCKER
I think it's funny how this is website, with arguably one of the biggest dick user bases in the world, is the only website I have seen to understand Shinji.
Kid had a tough life. His mom went into a giant robot to become a living reminder that humans exist, and his Dad just abandoned him. And then, he is told to pilot a giant robot to fight a fucking abomination. Yeah, he could of been less bitchy about it and asked "Isn't there another option?", but he knew he had no choice when the other pilot was a poor, injured girl. Then, he experiences his arm being brutally pulled broken apart and being impaled through the eye.
And that isn't even the worst shit that happens to him. And in the end, he always ends up beating the Angel.
Shinji battled depression and giant monsters at the same time, and came out on top. How is that not badass?
>>119368648
They're both great characters that people have no right to complain about. Anyways the people who complain abouy them being whiny and annoying are probably plebs to begin with and can't into storytelling.
>>119374279
Girls like Shinji only when he is company with Karl
>>119374662
As I said, stop being faggots. Caring about her being a terrible person overall is nothing but sheer faggotry. You self-insertfags are truly the worst.
>>119374809
>Caring about her being a terrible person overall is nothing but sheer faggotry.
Terrible people are terrible, anon. No way around that.
>>119374047
>girls in both Japan and the west love Shinji because they find him relatable
At least from my experience, girls tolerate Shinji at best. Most of them plain hate him. Fangirls are more sexist than the average anon, see shoujo. Really, I've never found a girl that actually like Shinji, they use him as a self-insert for getting Kaworu, not so diferent from waifufags
>>119374809
How is what I said even connected to self-insert?
>>119368648
As whiny as they both were, at the end of the day Asuka would get in the robot and Shinji would not. That's why he gets the hate.
>>119368648
She has delicious titties and ass, tho'.
>>119368648
Rei pls
>>119374866
But why care? It's fucking fiction! Why waste your time complaining about what a cartoon girl is doing?
>>119374892
The only people that don't like Asuka are self-insertfags, those who deny this are lying.
>>119374726
Better get in that robot or I won't love you anymore hohoho
>>119368648
Because Asuka is a girl and girls are expected to be emotional wrecks waiting for a male to give her a hug and protect her. Meanwhile, Shinji is a man so he can't show emotions. At best, he must abuse of someone weaker than him, see Sasuke and the average shoujo male lead
>selfinsert, selfinsert, selfinsert, selfinsert, selfinsert.
>fujoshi, fujoshi, fujoshi, fujoshi, fujoshi, fujoshi, fujoshi.
>She is a qt, MAI WAIFU, MAI WAIFU, MAI WAIFU, MAIWERJIOEGDSOIGMJRE.
Guys , do you really do that?, everything is a joke right?.....right?
>>119374941
He gets in the robot and kills almost every angel, unlike Asuka
>>119374941
Except Shinji did get in the robot when Asuka or Rei couldn't.
>>119374967
You don't criticize everything? What are you, a happy-go-lucky fruitcake? Get the fuck outta here.
>>119368856
This is true. Asuka is the only one who is enough of a bitch / bad person for me to hate them at first
>>119374766
Carl, why is there a dead person on the floor ?
>>119374728
It's because you're probably only here if you fucked up somewhere. Thus making it easier to relate to Shinji. Especially if your childhood wasn't all "Roses are red, the rainbow is colorful, let's have fun"-like.
>>119374967
>hurr durr it's just anime xD
Just kill yourself already
>there are people on this planet who like Asuka
>>119375014
*Even when Asuka wouldn't
>>119368648
Holy shit this logic is so terrible I hope you're trolling.
Shinji whined about the most important aspect of his existence, piloting Eva. Asuka did not, so yes he is worse.
>>119375024
I'm sorry, I just give a fuck. She's a cartoon.
>>119375047
>Taking anime seriously
Ahahhahhahhaa
>>119375034
Asuka is hot. Shinji isn't. Therefore Asuka is always right and Shinji is always wrong.
Considering the anime fanbase is composed by shut-in nerds deeply traumatized by bullying, it's curious how shallow they are.
>>119374728
>Shinji battled depression and giant monsters at the same time, and came out on top. How is that not badass?
It is all a matter of style, you can beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing fight and then have a threesome of Scarlett Johansson and Jessiaca Rabbit in a spaceshitp to te moon, if you cry whine and bitch before, during and after it, nobody will see you like a badass.
>>119375039
I have friends who had childhoods that made Shinji's childhood look like an episode of carebears, and they are still not as whiny as Shinji.
>>119375133
Whatever
>>119375087
And even while whining, Shinji still a better pilot than Asuka.
>>119375256
But did your friends have to fight giant monsters?
I mean, not saying your friends had hard lives, but still
>>119375168
Aw, c'mon on. Shinji is cute.
>>119375256
>It is all a matter of style, you can beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing fight and then have a threesome of Scarlett Johansson and Jessiaca Rabbit in a spaceshitp to te moon, if you cry whine and bitch before, during and after it, nobody will see you like a badass.
Do you realize how childish that sound? Actually, it sounds male adolescent
>>119375087
Shinji is a much better human being than Asuka. She may be more willing to pilot but even then she messed up on the job just as much or more than him, and she had been training for months while he just go involved in the whole thing out of nowhere. Rei was the only good pilot.
gril here
i like Shinji the best, def most realistic character, has his moments.
Kaworu was good, esp in the rebuild. nicest character, literal angel, p fucking gay.
Asuka can suck my fucking dick.
Rei was okay i guess.
everyone else bored me or was too evil to enjoy.
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>>119375133
>>119375256
Shinji isn't whiny. He is submissive, quiet and does everything he has to, and does it fucking well. Asuka is constantly fucking up.
>>119375343
It does, I know, but that's how most people perceive things even in their adult lives
>>119375340
Unfortunately >>119375256 has a point. Anime is about giving a power fantasy to its audience and Shinji fails on both male and female fantasy. Shinji may be cute but he isn't husbando material for not being manly enough. Fangirls are incredibly sexist, despite /a/ actually believe they all are SJWs.
>>119375354
Can I suck your dick too?
Reminder literally no one in the eva universe likes Asuka.
>>119375354
Lol Wat
PenPen best character, twodeepforme personality, character development like no other, and is a fucking penguine living in a fridge.
in addition, saw Shinji's dick and Asuka naked and dealt with it
Put him in an EVA and he will impact you fucking face
> PenPen spinoff now
> Evangelion²: You can (not) defy PenPen
>>119375396
>Shinji isn't whiny
What?
>>119375168
>Shinji
>not hot
He's considered good looking in canon though. Just pretty and effeminate instead of masculine.
>>119375354
Would you fug the shinji?
>>119375452
It's okay, you tried.
Everyone forgets who Kensuke was.
>>119375452
And she deserve it.
But what about Shinji?
>>119375451
depends, are you a hot redheaded girl
>>119368648
I don't complain about either, but Asuka is the most relateable character in the show. Lots of girls, especially mentally unwell girls self-insert as her.
>>119374998
Homura is another great example of a common female self insert, even though the rest of your post is incomprehensible.
>>119375562
>Asuka
>Hot
If she's so shit why is there daily threads about her? I don't think there has been a single day on the history of this board where there hasn't been at least two Asuka threads. Face it, she is just the best.
Checkmate atheists.
>>119375530
He's super plain. yes? i guess? who fuckin knows
>>119375536
Everyone forgets Glasses-kun.
>>119375433
I don't know, Shinji would be a good bottom bitch. I would treat him gently though
Then again, I would make a good bottom bitch too, but I can fill both roles
>>119375530
Who wouldn't want Shinji?
>>119375604
We want Pen³ threads. He should be MC. Maybe even the final Angle. Who knows
>>119375604
quantity=!=quality
There are also daily SnK threads
>>119375385
You can take it seriously, but not TOO seriously. If you let a cartoon girl rile you up to the point where you complain about her every time she's brought up into a conversation, then you are now obsessed. You are on the same level as a self-insertfag. Just take it easy and fap to hot blooded redheads.
>>119374728
It's because we've been there. 4chan is like Shinji's tape player, an escape from reality.
>this thread
>>119374941
And now you know why Mari is the best.
>>119368648
Because he is not a girl/ anons are retarded and but the real reason should be because he is the MC. Whiny main MC deserve more hate really.
>>119375678
His dad.
>>119368648
Because most anime watchers are men, and they ignore all of Asuka's faults because "kawaii anime girl desu desu".
Women tend to have better taste in anime, it's sort of sad watching guys try to have taste.
>>119375039
My childhood was pretty good to me so don't put me on the same field as you. I'm only here because you guys are far less cancerous. You people do piss me off at times but I think I can understand you.
>>119376123
Yeah, because Kuroshitsuji is the best anime ever
