Name a worse romance or love story.
>>119218805
Twilight
Time to go back to 2008, bye
toradora
>>119219024
>>119218858
Nah, Sasusaku is way worse
Toradora.
It's overhyped for what it is.
Shitty tsun wins again #376
>>119218805
it is
>he doesn't think it was true love
>>119218805
korra and asami
>>119219637
it's like poetry
>>119218805
Golden Time
>>119218858
at least they had some positive interactions
>>119219681
>tfw shoujo male leads are Sasuke-tier and they never say sorry
Even SasuKarin was better. And that wasn't even really a romance.
>>119218805
>>119219939
>yfw Sasukarin was probably canon and then Kishi changed his mind AGAIN but never bothered changing Salad's design to compensate.
>>119218805
I've got nothing because I've never touched Twilight and I never will.
>>119219637
Look how he first frown and then he smiled. Autists can't do into body language.
>>119219744
>Lindafags
>>119220093
You know it's gonna happen or Kubo's going to bring back Nel in the epilogue.
>>119218805
Was there even any romance there? All we really knew was that Sakura thought Sasuke was cute. Beyond that, there was that one scene before he left and that hospital scene but that was literally it.
>>119220072
Kishi compared Karin to his hemorroids. He hates her.
>>119219939
>SasuKarin was better
Sasuke was always disgusted and used Karin. She was nothing to him.
Could you even call Sorato a romance?
There were many signs or results.
>>119220000
>>119220093
>quints
it's over
>>119220093
>Parallels
>Narusaku all over again
Someone post that pic with the Ichihime theory shit post the IchiRuki one too to spice things up.
Even by shonen romance standards Sasuke and Sakura as a pairing is just horrifying. It's completely fucking broken.
>>119220156
At least Karin was so over-the-top that Sasuke's douchebagness look like a running gag while Sakura suffered for it
>>119220172
weren't, meant to say weren't, fuck.
>>119220072
Sakura was created with Sasuke. Karin was added against Kishi's will by the newest editor. He never wanted Taka to happen.
You're blind to not see why Sakura won and why he insulted Karin's feelings as fangirl, obsessive and lustful.
>>119220156
So you mean she was exactly like Sakura for 698 chapters?
>>119220174
>Them muscular forearms
>Them muscular necks
Muh autism is too strong gotta lie down.
>>119220140
>implying Koko was the best choice
>>119220199
That was the point? Karin was just comic relief, like Lee's feelings for Sakura. Both were hopeless suitors. Sasuke's fate was to stay with Team 7 as overchachiving arc. Hooking up with the chick who represented a dark and edgy fate makes no sense at all.
Sakura was always going to end up with him because she's the only girl in Team 7.
>>119220177
>Ichihime
>Not completely baseless one sided obsession
Oh anon...silly anon..
If Sasuke was ugly Sakura would have never given a shit about him.
>>119220251
No, Kishi praises Sakura's love for Sasuke and likes Sakura a lot.
>>119220251
Seriously, she "loved" a guy that ran around being a fucking psychopath and even when he was present in Konoha didn't give her the time of day, then he comes back with a half-assed apology and she's ready to accept his demon semen.
>>119220340
If Hinata was ugly, would you give a shit about her?
>inb4 shitstorm
>>119220405
Nagisa dies.
is aqua a lesbo?
>>119220340
this
imagine if Naruto's and Sasuke's looks were swapped
>>119220479
Everybody in Naruto is butt fucking ugly because Kishimoto can't draw for shit
>>119220348
Yea Kishi obviously likes SasuSaku and agrees with it's message but that doesn't mean it's not terrible and that most of the readers didn't hate it. Kishi complained about how unpopular Sakura always was in a recent interview.
sasutachi is the only answer
>>119220504
ExceptMadara
>>119219861
Dat ass
I don't remember there actually BEING any Sasusaku moments in Naruto.
I remember Sakura pined for Sasuke a lot, but I don't remember them having any actual moments beyond when he left the village.
>>119220249
Shame, as Suigetsu and JÅ«go are great. Karin.. Less so.
>>119220507
There was supposed to be a message there?
>>119220320
>Naruhina
>Sasusaku
Oh anon history is on my side.
>>119218805
you probably know who I put.
>>119220340
A big problem was that he talked about a fangirly looking crush over looks like it was true love. Sasuke showing even the slightest bit of affection for her instead of just constantly calling her annoying and trying to kill her would have went a long way in portraying that she didn't just like him for his looks.
>>119220573
>Comparing Kishimoto to Kubo
>>119220140
>You know it's gonna happen
I'm not saying that ichiruika is going to happen but orihime has had nothing but death and sadness flags from the get go. Even when bleach had tons of shipping bait in the first arc she just got death flags
>>119220507
Most of the readers don't hate it. They're indifferent.
>>119220602
>comparing anyone to Kubo
your parents
>>119220340
>>119220479
Sasuke's DARKNESS could compesate his looks
>>119220573
Neither of those were one sided. You're just bad at reading comprehension.
>>119220602
Kubo is one fashionable sexy motherfucker!
>>119220557
Women should stick to abusive assholes no matter what. Japan find a woman's loyalty toward a man as endearing
>>119219748
Go to bed Shrooms
>>119220602
>Kubo had less talent than Kishi
You think he's gonna some how wow us in 20-40 chapters by giving either ship proper development? Either ending is gonna be shitty anyway so I'm not really invested enough to argue. Agree to disagree?
>>119220673
This is Naruto, not shoujo.
>>119220000
>>119220174
>>119220218
>jackiediazposting in 2015
>>119220617
The female fanbase fucking love it though and they were vocal enough to change the ending.
Aquarion EVOL
>>119220657
Naruhina I can agree. But aside from part 1 where in the fuck is Sasuke's love for Sakura?
>>119220687
Ichiruki has had plenty of development to say they got together in the epilogue.
What manga have you been reading?
Ichihime has had no development though, beyond Orihime being a complete psychopath
>>119220697
Kishi should write shoujo. I think he'd make a better job than writing shounen, or at least the readers would appreciate his work unironically. Maybe if fantasy shoujo was still a thing.
>>119220706
>Implying Naruhina wasn't a side-effect of Sasusaku
>>119220743
I'll be honest I haven't really been paying attention to Bleach aside from speed reading the chapters since Hueco Mundo so you could be right.
>>119220784
Cassidy Please.
>>119220340
Well she still loves him even though he's now an one-armed Mexican hobo with heterochromia.
>>119220733
This is why I keep saying Sasuke should have had actual DARKNESS manifest from him during the final battle and once he finally gets his ass fully kicked it fades away or some shit and he becomes an alright guy. It would have been a whole new level of retarded, but it would have actually made sense and made DARKNESS something other than just shitty overblown angst.
>>119220804
Ichigo jizzing to the thought of Rukia on valentines day.
>>119220809
>Implying that doesn't make him hotter
You know shit about women
>>119220784
It's the other way around. NaruHina and Hinata were the original ideas for the story and SasuSaku was it's partnet for some reason. NaruSaku was paired with SasuKarin for again some reason I don't understand like in this teaser.
>>119220840
He doesn't have an eyepatch, a mustache or amnesia after a near fatal accident.
>>119220733
Naruhina needed to retcon Naruto's backstory with a movie instead of growing up organically because Kishi can't write romance
>>119220858
Good fucking god Kishimoto's art is ugly.
Thank god Kubo is a decent artist.
>>119218805
school days.
>>119220218
>>119220913
>implying it didn't already happen with the Rasengan training flashback
>>119218805
>>119220858
And Kishi's original idea for Naruto was a magic school a la Harry Potter but his editor suggested ninjas. It's useless to speculate of what could be. The thing is that Sasusaku was huge, way bigger than Narusaku while even Nejihina was bigger than Naruhina.
>b-but muh poll
Hinatafags were divided between shipping Hinata with Naruto, with Neji or with themselves
>>119220933
At least mc died at the end.
>>119218805
Love Roma
Hating Girl
>>119220970
Hinata was some weirdo that gave Naruto an inspirational speech when he needed it, not his first only friend
>>119220918
Girls in Naruto were actually fuckable before he started copying the anime's art. Backgrounds are pretty sweet, but the characters themselves just look absolutely terrible.
>>119220992
Everything you said was retarded in my eyes. At least provide some proof.
>>119221040
That was The Sauce.
>>119221054
Bleach's anime has only successfully copied Kubo's art once.
For a Ichiruki filler
>>119220858
Seriously fuck Kishi.
The fact that Karin was an Uzumaki could have been such an interesting plot point
but he ditched this because muh shipping.
>>119220913
They didn't need to rewrite it. Are you saying it was literally impossible to just build on where they left off? No. Kishi thought it would be cute to add in a scarf into the love story because his wife gave him a scarf.
>>119221004
You son of a bitch.
>>119220520
Madara is best girl, best villain, best character and best grandpa
I actually thought Sasuke would wind up alone. He never showed any attraction to any girl despite tons throwing themselves at him. Why does everything have to have shipping shit. It made more sense for Sasuke to end alone based on the story written.
>>119221150
>>119221145
The same way he retconned Gaara's backstory because his father died?
>>119221188
>moe Madara
>>119221195
At least Kakashi didn't get forced with anyone.
>>119221195
So Kishi can make his SasuNaru OTP happen with their kids only this time it isn't gay.
Sasuke did show feelings for Sakura in part 1 but everything regarding him went to shit when edge and darkness kicked in.
>>119220992
Kishi original idea was a cooking manga, what the hell are you talking about?
>>119221201
True.
Kishi retcons backstories a lot. Naruto and Sasuke's brotherhood didn't even make sense until Kishi pulled some childhood flashbacks out of his ass for the first Vally of the End fight.
>>119221280
No he never showed any romantic feelings (attraction) for Sakura ever.
>>119221295
Honestly I never got the feeling anyone on Team 7 gave half a shit about each other like Kishi made it seem.
>>119221195
The landwhales would literally eat Kishi alive if he didn't make a sasusaku end. Nip fujoshis aren't as delusional as western fujoshis so they knew narusasu was imposible
>>119220743
Its not gonna have this kind of ending.
>>119220967
>>119221195
Sasuke's epilogue made a lot more sense if we see him as a closeted gay trying to fulfill his duty as a man and having a family but he doesn't want to stay with them.
>Sasuke and Sakura's honeymoon
>Sasuke whispering "Naruto" while having sex with Sakura
>>119221412
>landwhales
>literally eat Kishi alive
>literally eat
>>119221446
>>119221372
Team 7 was a dysfunctional mess. Naruto got along better with others than his own team.
>>119221446
Has a dumb bimbo like Orihime ever won?
>>119221551
The thing is, it could have worked very easily.
Naruto was written as a kid ostracized by his entire community and he never knew why and he's finally put into a situation where he can have friends, and even though he and Sasuke didn't see eye to eye there was plenty of potential for a real friendship, especially since Sasuke didn't have much tolerance for Sakura's shitty attitude towards him.
Instead Sasuke minds his own business for half the Chunin exam arc, is ABSENT for most of Tsunade, and then suddenly we're supposed to bring him back and think Naruto is doing anything more than what he was obligated to do.
>>119221446
>>119221682
Kishi said he wanted to do more missions before the chunin exams but his editor declined.
>>119221902
>but his editor declined
How beta is Kishi?
>>119221551
Fuck Team 7. Kishi tried so hard to make us believe it was special but it will always be the worst group in the entire manga.
Taka was completely dysfunctional and they still came off as a better team unit.
>>119220913
What got retconned? Oh wait, nothing.
>>119222075
Because they only had two arcs together. Then Sasuke left the village for about 3/4 of the series.
>>119220733
Love? Never said he loved her but he clearly cares.
>>119222125
Well the Narusaku are saying that kishi is taking sakura's scenes and reappropriate them to Hinata. For example, Sakura being bullied by boys.
Imagine the Narusaku getting pissed if kishi makes a naruhina version of the bench scene.
>>119222172
Naruto always came across as a lunatic whenever he ranted about the eternal bond he had with Sasuke when the manga only managed to show them as little more than casual acquaintances.
>>119222125
>>119222486
Hinata was Naruto's only friend at some point during their childhood but Naruto ruined it, despite it was never mentioned it or even implied.
>>119222587
Hinata was never Naruto's only friend. The flashback was just Naruto saving her from bullies.
>>119222587
Hinata was the only person that didn't consider Naruto an useless retard but she wasn't his friend by any means.
>>119221902
>Muh editor
Why is it every mistake comes back to his editor?
>>119222587
>Hinata was Naruto's only friend at some point during their childhood but Naruto ruined it
You seem to be going by false info. The movie never portrays Naruto and Hinata as ex-childhood friends.
>>119222587
>Implying
Flashbacks show Naruto associating with everyone in that year BUT Hinata it seems like.
I've translated this shit as much as I can if people wanna check it out.
TL
>Naruto: Yawn
>Ah... I'm tired...
>Toothpaste's gone, huh...
>...!
>... It's gotten kinda long, huh.
>>119222923
>Hinata: ... ....?
>.... !!
>His hair...!!
>Wh-what do I do...
>My voice...
>My voice..!!
>Naruto: Sakura-chaaan!
>Uwa- what's wrong?
>Sakura: naruto- that head!
>Naruto: I cut my hair!
>Does it suit me? Does it suit me?
>Sakura: Heeeeh, it's kinda... atmosphere-changing, isn't it?
>Naruto: Heheeh, right?
>Sakura-chan, that hairstyle suits you too!
>Sakura: ... But I cut mine last month
>Hinata: I'm no good...
>Even now I can't call out to him...
>I haven't grown up since then.
>Once more I'm just looking at Naruto-kun's back.
>I musn't....
>I won't go yet...
>sfx: WAPU (WHAM)
>Kiba: What're you doing?
>Shino: Hinata
>When walking, face firmly forward.
>Hinata: Shino-kun, Kiba-kun...
>Kiba: What is it, Naruto again?
>Pull yourself together.* If it's you, it'll be fine, won't it?
>Hinata: Kiba-kun...
>Kiba: Uwah! That guy's got a crewcut, Shino! Gyahahaha!
>Hinata: Kiba-kun...!!
>Shino: Stop it, Kiba. Hinata's mood will become bad. Moreover, that is not a crewcut.
>Kiba: Hinata, you're cool even with that? Ahahaha
>Hinata: Na, Naruto-kun, no matter what his appearance, is Naruto-kun...
>I-I think his current haircut also suits him...
>Kiba: [Damn it... needless damage.]
>Shino: That's why I said stop, Kiba.
>Learn this lesson well.
*= Unsure
>>119222075
I never got what their team gimmick was. Looking at other teams InoShikaCho are a long running team of specialists. Team 8's abilities are made for tracking & recon. Team Guy are frontline fighters. Team 7 got nothing but a forced looking Sannin recognition near the end.
>>119221902
>>119222785
How do you know that anyway?
Does Kishi rant about this on twitter?
>>119222559
I agree.
Naruto had a stronger bond with Gaara for fuck's sake.
>>119222957
>Kiba(?): On the whole that head is definitely too good for you!
>Naruto: Yo! What're you guys up to?
>Sakura: A mission
>Shino: That's right.
>Kiba: From here on we're headed to Hokage-sama's-
>Naruto: Hinataaa
>I've changed my image!**
>Sakura: I know that you're complimenting yourself while speaking to Hinata* (You're so embarrassing)
>Naruto: Hee hee hee
>Hinata.
>Oooi. Hyuuga-saaaan.
>Sakura: ...
>Hinata, could it be that you think pre-haircut Naruto was better?
>Naruto: !!
>Eh?
>Hinata: Eh?
>sfx: zuun (mortified)
>Hinata: It's a d... different Naruto-kun...
>Uhm... that's not it...
>Sakura(?): Hinataaa, let it gooo
>[She explained properly]
*= unsure
** Naruto's using a phrase here that mostly idols use to talk about changing their aesthetics
(?) = It's not clear who's speaking
>>119222968
Team 7 were losers that were put together in hopes that they would either get sent back to school by Kakashi or actually achieve something together
>>119222968
>I never got what their team gimmick was.
Team 8 were the weirdos.
>>119223046
Here's where shit gets and headache inducing.
>[She said it suits him and he was praised]
>Sakura: Self-interested, aren't you?
>Kiba: Speaking of which,
>Sakura, your hair's grown out like it was long ago, hasn't it?
>Sakura: {untranslated}
>Hinata: Mm, it really suits you... (You look so adult, I'm jealous.)
>Sakura: Aw, Hinata, you're great!
>(C'mere you!)
>Kiba: Hinata, what if you cut your hair short too?
>Hinata: Eh?
>Kiba: It's getting pretty long, right?
>Shino: Mm. It may be that you change moods once in a while.
>Hinata: Since I'll look like a kid...
>Kiba: I'm not saying that!! I'm saying it's okay if you don't do the same hairstyle as back then. I'm saying a type like back then and now.
>Naruto: No way.
>Hinata, how you have it now is fine.
>If you cut it, that'd be wasteful.
>So, drop it.
>Okay?
>Hinata: ... Yes.
I couldn't figure out what the fuck Sakura was saying, something about her hair suiting her or some bullshit. It's mostly just filler dialogue.
>>119223206
>Kiba: Daaaaah!
>I can't staaaaand this!
>C'mon, let's go, Hinata!
>The reason is that anything more than this and the damage will be unnecessary.
>Hinata: ?
>Y-yes
>W... well
>Later, Naruto-kun, Sakura-san...
>Sakura: Do your best!!
>Naruto: Do your best!!
>Hinata: Yes...
>Kiba: You're slow, Hinata!!
>Hinata: S-sorry...
[Team 8 text is virtually unreadable]
>Sakura: Welp, I'm gonna go shopping and head home.
>What about you, Naruto?
>Naruto?
>Naruto: Nah... I'm not hurt or anything...
>It's just, after talking with those guys for the first time in a while, I wanted to talk a little longer, is all.
>That's all!
>When I get back I think I'll treat myself to some ramen
>Sakura: ...
>[Really...]
>['Cause you were poking!]
>If you're going back, I'll go with you.
>Naruto: Really?! Great!
>Sakura(?): By the way, believe those guys.*
>Naruto(?): Nah, I know who the strong one is.*
*Not sure what this part means.
>>119222559
The fact that Sasuke dropped his DARKNESS long enough to yell this was the redeeming part of this shit arc.
>>119222968
Team 7 were what was left of the academy.
>>119223259
And the omake, which I may have rushed a bit.
>Kakashi: I do not send two people in a relationship on the same mission.
>Naruto: Heehh? You're so cruel, Kakashi-sensei! I can't eat ramen when I'm worried!
>Text: [Happy, but extremely embarrassed->]
>Kakashi: Listen up. I'll entrust another other honor to you and you'll return, right?
>Bottom Text: They were boyfriend and girlfriend on a job... is what they thought, but
>He thought about their two personalities and decided not to put them together
Honestly, compared to the other really fucking long one I translated, this kinda wasn't worth it, but it's pretty much done. The empty spots can be filled by another translator. By normal pricing, this would've cost around 65 bucks to translate.
>>119222923
>>119222957
>>119223046
>>119223206
>>119223259
>>119223392
Good work on those.
I translated this one (it's on danbooru) but I'm missing two things, the footnote (that has some kanji I don't recognize, that 冂 with a 白 or something inside) and that kanji that I really can't read inside the parenthesis on the last panel.
Any help would be appreciated.
>>119223259
I'm pretty sure Kiba liked Hinata but got NTR'D
>>119222559
The chaotic, sadistic mass of pure hatred and malevolence that destroyed his home and murdered his mother and father in cold blood while trying to kill him as a baby and left him an exile while living inside his very being his entire life was a better friend than Sasuke ever was.
>>119223384
You mean the number one rookie and the son of a hokage?
>>119223561
>mother dies at birth because of something her husband did
>child is responsible
Does The Last mention anything about what happened to Orochimaru?
>>119223535
He was like a big brother that Neji wasn't.
>>119220518
kek
>>119223615
No. The movie doesn't tie up any of the loose ends other than how NaruHina happened. The Boruto movie and the extra novels being released might cover the rest though.
>>119223655
Are they LN?
Sakura literally has no reason to love this plot device of a character, save for the fact that he is marginally more attractive than the blond kid
Actually, scratch that, she has no reason whatsoever to love him
>>119219694
This or Makorra.
Hell Kuvira got beat by fucking TnJ and S1 felt like something straight out of Nardo.
>>119223677
SS desperately needs some retcons in both their backstories.
>>119218805
not even saved by claiming it's accurate for teens, just plain bad
>>119223677
Sasuke's supposed to be really, really attractive. Rewatch early Naruto. Every girl mentions how much charisma and whatever he has.
The blonde haired , blue eyes kid is a noisy , annoying brat, that no one likes , of course.
Sasuke was literally apparently chick magnet.
>>119222923
>>119222957
>>119223046
>>119223206
>>119223259
>>119223392
Kept seeing this get posted for the past few days. From the frustration it's apparently caused you, I think I can get now why it hadn't been translated up till now. Nevertheless, thanks for taking the time to translate it anyway.
OH MY GOD SAKURA DON'T CALL HIM SASUKE-KUN, IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A FFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKING IDIOT.
>>119223050
>Team 7 were losers
No.
Sasuke was a genius and a from an almost dead powerful clan and Naruto came from also another almost dead powerful clan and was the son of the 4th
Sakura had no right to be on that team.
>>119223677
Florence Nightingale syndrome
She saw Sasuke as her cool, awesome and handsome classmate and had a childish crush on him, then fell in love with him when she saw that he was actually a scared, lonely kid tormented by his past and felt and felt that it was her responsibility to save him from falling into darkness and hatred.
>>119223801
Both of whom were outcasts
>>119223840
One of which had a demon inside him and the other came from a clan that was killed off because they were considered traitors
>>119223535
Nah. I never got that vibe.
>>119218805
Matt x Sora
>>119223673
Yes.
>>119223392
>compared to the other really fucking long one I translated
Wait, which one was that?
>>119222486
Thats because NaruSaku fans are as dumb as Sakura was.
>>119223655
Kishi already confirmed that the Bort movie will show what happened to Oro
>>119223392
>the other really fucking long one
Oh, you did the comic where pic related is from as well? Thanks, anon.
But yeah, that long comic doesn't seem as good as the other ones.
>>119223840
One of them should have never been an outcast thank you fucking Hiruzen, you fucking faggot.
It baffles me that no one in the Cloud ever tried to abduct Nardo when he had his mom's fucking last name.
I know Minato said they couldn't give him his name because the Stone Niggers would kill him in revenge but what the fuck was to stop those child kidnappers of the Cloud from taking a kid who has the same face as Kushina and is obviously an Uzumaki. Hell the Cloud who have crapped themselves when they realize he was the host of the Kyuubi.
>>119223948
Everything he posted before, I guess.
It is hard work, I already have trouble recognizing typeface kanji, let alone handwritten ones.
>>119223948
This post's image is from it.
>>119224052
http://a.pomf.se/krxogz.png
>>119224060
The writer is horrible.
Everyone knows this.
Seriously, he didnt even plan for Naruto to last longer than the Sasuke fight at the Valley of the End.
Seriously.
Read the fucking series, there's way too many contradictions and weird long term events that contradict stuff that should have taken place earlier in the series. Like Sage Mode, Senjutsu actually being a thing, ect.
The writer made shit up on the fly.
>>119223838
See that would have been acceptable by Shonen standards if Kishimoto wasn't determined on Naruto being the only one who can save Sasuke.
>>119218805
Specifically Sasuke/Sakura? Nothing really comes to mind. If you're talking the franchise in general I would say there were some decent romances in there, barring screen time.
That said, we never really see the romance. They end up together but we haven't seen the gap after he leaves and comes back. There might be a story in there like with Hinata.
>>119224060
Naruto's childhood is one massive plot hole. Not only is his lineage completely unknown despite it being so obvious, but there are multiple people who know about his parentage yet did nothing during his lonely childhood. Especially jarring for Jiraiya, who was his goddamn godfather. People give Hinata a hard time for not helping Naruto in his childhood, yet Jiraiya, Kakashi, and fucking Hiruzen are much worse in that regard.
Best not to think about it.
>>119224207
Yeah I know that. I figure that out when I was 12 and read the last chapter of Part 1 with Sasori stating that Orochimaru left Akatsuki 7 years ago.
That makes no fucking sense since Itachi didn't join until 5 years before the timeskip.
>>119224241
Kishimoto's insistence on making Naruto's life about saving Sasuke rather than being Hokage ruined the series.
I still believe that Sasuke ruined the series.
You cant have two main characters like that where they have their own thing going on you either have multiple main characters that take turns, or the main characters are buddy cop style shit, where they're always together.
>>119224094
Well, I enjoy translating those even if they're tricky 'cause they're short and sweet. This one was just kinda eh. Naruto doesn't want Hinata to cut her hair. The end.
>>119224306
>Jiraiya
He gets a pass because he was trying to keep the village, and Naruto to some extent, safe from Orochimaru and the Akatsuki. Kakashi and the Third however are full blown assholes.
>>119224306
It can be summed up like this:
Hiruzen was a shitty Hokage
>>119224371
The third was kind of an asshole and incompetent in everything he did anyways
>>119224306
>Especially jarring for Jiraiya, who was his goddamn godfather.
He didn't know about it until he was about to go to his very last mission, I suppose? Otherwise, why would he say this?
>>119224306
I think it's one of two things-
Either A: In japanese culture, it's totally fucking cool for kids to grow up without parents and lead lonely , sad lives.
Or B, the writer is complete shit.
I think it's A AND B, since apparently, Hiruzen, Tsunade, Kakashi, Jiraiya,- ALL THESE PEOPLE left a FUCKING CHILD grow up -alone- for 12 years of his life.
You get that, right?
That, doesnt even MAKE SENSE.
Is there no orphanage in Konoha?
Kids dont just fucking get sent to a home and like "Yo, here it is, son, your new crib.Aight, peace."
Think about it, for ONE second. The Leader of the Village, decided that the Village's WMD and son of the previous Leader, should be ostracized and never assured for his care. He never assigned a guard, he never even had anyone care for him.
Fucking, a-mazing.
>>119224409
Because he's old and constantly drunk
>>119224404
>>119224408
>Facing a dangerous villain and known body snatcher/jumper
>lel i seal your arms :^)
If anything he made shit even worse because correct me if I'm wrong but that's what caused Orochimaru to kick his Sasuke related plans into high gear
>>119224465
>A: In japanese culture, it's totally fucking cool for kids to grow up without parents and lead lonely , sad lives.
Well it's not that since one of Sakura's first transgressions against readers everywhere was saying that Naruto was fucked up because he didn't have any parents to fellow orphan teammate Sasuke.
>>119224409
Er, nope, there's a flashback where Kushina and the 4th TELL him that they're naming their kid after a character in their book.
So, no.
He knew.
And did nothing.
He didnt even spend a minute part of his life caring for him, or using his wealth as a wealthy shinobi to hire a nursemaid.Nah, he'd rather spend it on whores and crap.(He IS wealthy, btw, as an accomplished writer).
I genuinely believe the writer just....put shit together as he went along, and didnt think about how all this is horrible.
Or are japanese just horrible people with no love for family and friends?
>>119224366
I'm the one who keeps posting that super fucking long comic because I thought it's all about Naruto trying to support Hinata in front of her worrying teammates (I can't read japanese) and I thought that final two panels is Sakura saying "Really, it's because you're dense!" (I thought it was 'nibuin') in the sense that Naruto didn't yet realize how much he cared about Hinata.
I'm sorry for putting you through that much pain for nothing.
Speaking of which, how many have you translated? Did you translate this one as well? This is back from early December 2014, I think.
>>119224409
It's so funny Tsunade remembers her but acted like Naruto was a nobody when they first met.
Same goes for Orochimaru who knew both of Naruto's parents as well but treated him like he could never be as good as them despite Sasuke at 12 was way weaker than Itachi at 12.
Christ this shit pisses me off.
Especially the fact that Danzo wasn't invented until part 2.
>>119224496
Sasuke already got the curse seal during the chunin arc, he was already branded as a possible body for orochimaru
but you are pretty much right, if the third just fucking killed him, sassgay might have turned out somewhat normal, stayed with the team, and combated against pain with Naruto and Co.
>>119224496
He realized he couldnt win, so he thought "best thing I could do is stop you from casting spells", but apparently, that angle got completely dropped, since Orochimaru could totally do spells and shit, even though he shouldnt.
>>119224409
I can give Kishi a lot of credit because he wrote a 700 chapter series knowing exactly where he was going with it for at least the latter 500 chapters, if not the whole thing. And he stuck to it.
But it's incredibly obvious some character relations were thought up during the creation of the series and add some minor issues.
>>119224555
>I genuinely believe the writer just....put shit together as he went along, and didnt think about how all this is horrible.
He did. Of course he did.
Hell the biggest dilemma he had approaching chapter 700 was how the fuck he was going to write a way for Naruto and pals to even touch Madara Uchiha.
And then he invented Kaguya and made Zetsu a betrayer because that totally makes sense.
>>119224617
He couldn't do hand seals anymore.
Then turns out hand seals mean jack shit.
>>119224555
Kishimoto included Naruto's parents in mostly to mirror his own experiences as a father. It was the main justification for creating Road to Ninja after all. He obviously didn't really stop to think about the plot holes it opened up.
>>119224579
I've translated quite a few, including the sequel to that pic. I wonder if the artist ever did another one of those.
>>119224555
How did he not remember Kushina's fucking name?
I mean, holy shit, they named their fucking kid after him, and he couldn't remember her name?
>>119218805
You shouldn't be able answer this question because you shouldn't have watched Naruto in the first place.
>>119224657
And yes, I also translated the pic you posted, as I realized I hadn't answered your question.
>>119224657
Fuck you, fanartists. I'm not supposed to feel like this for nurutu.
>>119224706
Nope.This is the same man, who left to wander the world, and didnt ever come back during his godson's whole childhood. Also, he never even used a fucking fraction of his MASSIVE wealth to hire even a nursemaid, or a caretaker to ensure his GODSON was living alright.
He left him, aware of his existence, but not at all interested caring for him- even though he totally took care of three strangers before all that...
This is the same man, whose godson has to repeatedly BEG him to improve his ability to survive in his profession that feeds him and keeps him alive, but continously ditches him until he gets tired of driving him away.
Only then, does he bother teaching him...once.
You realize if I wasnt describing Jiraiya, you'd all think this was a completely shitty human being, right?
>>119224843
Jiraiya is a really great guy though, all that shit is just Kishimoto's bad writing creating gaping plot holes.
>>119224465
Hiruzen subscribed to the Ikari Gendo school of parenting.
>>119224554
>>Well it's not that since one of Sakura's first transgressions against readers everywhere was saying that Naruto was fucked up because he didn't have any parents to fellow orphan teammate Sasuke.
That was funny on a lot of levels, including that Sakura is practically an orphan except for one movie and one filler episode of the anime.
>>119224827
>>119224815
>>119224657
Wow, you're the guy who makes me want to typeset Naruto fanart in the first place.
>>119224555
Was that anime only?
>>119224783
>you should instantly know what is garbage tier or casual when developing a new interest
I'm sure you started out watching masterpieces when you up and decided to take on anime as an interest.
I started watching Naruto in 2003 when I was 15, and I'm going to finish watching it even though I am aware it's painfully flawed. Because despite it's shortcomings, it's fun and enjoyable.
>>119224843
Enough with the fucking ellipsis already.
>>119224991
No. It's the same scene where Naruto tells Kakashi he's naming her's and Sasuke's son after the coolest guy.
>>119224843
He believed Nagato and the others to have died during the civil war.
His star pupil and his wife ended up dead too, who knows what happened to the other two, most likely also dead considering how many died in the 3rd ninja war.
If every young kid he invested his emotions in ended up dead, I could see why he might be hesitant to let himself care about another.
>>119225041
...what.
>>119224971
That comic has a sequel.
>>119224901
Again, think about what I just told you.
Let's say I described that there's this:
Very, Wealthy, Powerful Ninja.
Whose student and friend dies, and his child, who is the Powerful Ninja's official godson- is left completely alone. So, instead of taking care of him, he leaves him completely alone as a baby, and does nothing to take care of him. Spends not a single cent for his care, and doesnt check on him once. Also, this same guy doesnt return for a good decade to even check if he's alive. And yet, this is the same guy, who also took care of three strangers on a whim for three years.
This same person later on never tells the kid anything about him, his family, or anything, treats him like a complete stranger, and tries to ditch him at many times when the kid BEGS him to teach him.
He then teaches him ONE thing, then dissapears for a long time, and doesnt even attend the tournament his godson was training for.
Great human being, eh?
>>119224843
>caretaker to ensure his GODSON was living alright
In the shinobi world, adversity and challenge to survive makes you a stronger ninja. Naruto's painful lonely childhood made him strong enough to survive the challenges ahead.
I mean, obviously that's a copout, he simply didn't plan out the characters ahead of time far enough. But it's a decent excuse.
>>119225045
Thinking like that for Jiraiya and for Hiruzen is putting too much faith in Kishimoto's writing skills.
But anon maybe Jiraiya and Kakashi couldn't raise Naruto because of the emotional pain.
He looks alot like his dad and would be a constant reminder of the son/father that they failed to save.
That doesn't seem like a bad motive to me.
>>119225071
>...
>>119225076
Nearly all the fanart I see in threads has better art than the actual series. This is ridiculous.
>>119225138
So, instead of saving the kid and making it up to the guy they helped to save, they DOUBLE FUCK his memory by abandoning his kid?
AAA quality writing.
>>119225180
>this is ridiculous
I know. It makes NH seem like far more romantic than it was in the actual manga.
>>119225201
>helped
Don't you mean failed?
>>119224906
Remind me, do we have Shikamaru to thank for the first time that happened too?
Can Naruto keep going once Hinata dies?
I find myself morbidly curious to see how Sasuke and Sakura got together.
What do they talk about?
What do they do in their spare time?
Who initiates their romantic moments?
>>119225215
Naruto mearlu unleashes the strongest extant demon in the world in rage over Hinata being attacked.
If that aint love, what is.
>>119225320
We know they have a daughter so for all we know Sakura just threw the pussy at him and as a serial killer and psychopath he wasn't in any position to do better so he got in there, found out she was knocked up, stuck around to keep up appearances for the villagers, and then peaces out to fuck other women.
>>119225317
Welp, time to steal Sasuke's Rinnegan!
>>119225317
>>119225400
No need.
By that point, he'll like have learned Edo Tensei.
Simple enough.
>>119225320
Drunken one-night stand and then Sasuke returns to wandering the wastes as a super hobo.
>>119225317
>implying Nardo will live that long
>implying Salad won't accidentally get him killed forming an extremely love-hate relationship between her and Bolt
Kishi loves forced drama.
>>119225373
>If that aint love, what is.
The power of liking someone a lot.
I wonder if Kurama eventually grows to like Hinata.
>>119225429
Naruto is the new Madara in Naruto part 4.
>>119225317
>implying Naruto won't die first
>>119225215
>>119225180
Movie Naruto is pretty romantic, though.
Honestly, there should just be a spin off manga about Hinata and Naruto doing lovey-dovey things, annoying everyone with their cuteness and honeymoon moments.
>>119225461
I get some shitty feeling that he'll die in Bolt's movie or the short series for forced Will of Fire shit.
>>119225476
Is there a character that can beat Naruto Uzumaki? And I'm not talking about The Last Naruto Uzumaki etc.
>>119225468
Kurama just sleeps. He understands not this human rutting.
>>119225476
Don't you mean the new Coolest Guy?
>>119225499
>inb4 Naruto becomes the 'Neji' of Boruto x Salad
Sweet irony.
>>119218805
I would say Twilight but I'm pretty sure Sasusaku is still just absolute horseshit.
>>119225520
Not in shonen, really.
>>119225520
No. Sasuke wouldn't have stood a chance if all the tailed beasts weren't on hand.
>>119225476
>Everyone thought it was all because Hinata died
>It was about Sasuke again
>>119225520
Naruto is not even Muten Roshi-tier
>>119225491
This image reminds me, anyone else get the feeling that every pairing that wasn't Shikamaru and Temari was drawn out of a fucking hat?
