Yahari/Oregairu LN Volume 10, Complete:
http://kyakka.wordpress.com/yahari-light-novel/volume-10/chapter-8/
I realize there's already two other threads, but they seem mostly anime-centric and shitposterific.
Expecting around the usual amount for the threads anyhow. Also, happy end of 2014 and Happy New Years.
Happy new year, Spyro.
>>119109543
Thanks a lot. And yeah, the other thread is unbearable.
Thank you based spyro.This is the chapter where it's revealed Yukino is blind directly, right?
>>119109567
Meant for >>119109486
>>119109486
You are a god amongst men.
>>119109486
I finished reading CH7 earlier today, Spyro is a just God.
>>119109486
>8man drinks ginger ale
He really is Batman
>>119109486
I'm so damn happy! Bless you, Spyro.
>>119109486
Hey Spyro, what was the ominous thing you mentioned about the end of Volume 10 way back when you first started translating the book?
I didn't want to spoil myself, so I didn't click on your spoilers back then, but I'm curious about all that discussion now that I've read the whole thing.
>>119109486
Happy New Year, Based Spyro. Now I can finally read it in one go when I have a moment of free time.
>>119110067
>>119110067
You didn't feel anything unsettling about chapter 9 at all? Clearly I messed up somewhere.
So we all agree memorandum is Hayama right?
>>119110142
You seriously did.
>>119110142
Which chapter 9? Vol 1?
>It’s a follow-up to your explanation. It’s about the reason why I didn’t tell anyone my decision between the sciences and the liberal arts. It wasn’t because I wanted to cut off my relationships. Relationships won’t reset just because you move up a year or go on to university.”
>“No, they definitely will.”
>“That applies only to you, Hikigaya. I’m different from you.”
lel
>>119109486
Thank you Spyro.
Happy New Year :)
>The book had turned cold from being constantly exposed to the wind and I became hesitant in continuing it further and in knowing how it would end.
Hachiman and the romance : restart
>>119109486
Thanks again Spyro and Happy New Year!
>I’m expecting Hachiman to fall pretty hard in the next volume too. Things don’t always go well as you’d like, after all.
You're making me worry about Komachi's future here, Spyro. We've seen here have a small breakdown in this volume, and Hachiman has refused to consider the possibility of her failing, and if in the next volume he's to wrapped up in whatever drama's happening to notice her less than stellar state...
>>119109486
Spyro, thank you so much. I woke up and saw this and it made my day. I really appreciate what you do here for us, we do not deserve you you are too good.
>>119109605
No, this time around8man is blind
>>119109486
Spyro, how many years do you think I have to study until I can read a novel like this? I'm barely 3 months in... I really want to enjoy it in its original language.
Thank you Spyro.
>Miura turned back noticing that we were at a stand-still.
>“Yui, thanks.” She faced Yuigahama and lightly tapped her shoulders. Then, she rotated just her neck and gave me a look. “Ahh, Hikio, too.”
>She doesn’t even care… I was being treated like a complete supplement, not to mention my name isn’t Hikio. Well, that’s fine too.
Miura cares very much about him.
I really want to see where this conflict between Hayama and Hachiman ends up.
>>119112788
More like Miura cares too much about Yui and have to account for Hikio's well-being too.
Thank you BASED Spyro
Next volume:
The monster of logic versus the monster of reliance
Final boss: Monster of control (mother)
>When Yuigahama and the others arrived at their seats, Miura and Isshiki waved their hands at Hayama.
Miura and Iroha really want Hayama's D.
>To my readers, we’re finally at the final stage of this story and although we’re wandering off course like always, we’re steadily making progress towards the goal.
Fuck, it really is ending somewhat soon.
>Next volume will have valentine's day
It's going to be a massacre
Could someone translate this please?
>>119113850
see this
>>119109645
>>119113850
Panel 1:
>Say, not like it matters to me, but what kind of girls do you like?
>Nurturing/Tender ones
Pa-Oh.
Yeah, >>119114022
Basically what this anon linked to.
Guess I was too slow.
Am I correct in assuming each memorandum has a different onwer?
>>119109486
Thank you for your hard work, Spyro!
>>119114186
Actually, do you mind doing it anyway? The rough TL is missing a few things and I want to scanlate it.
Haven't read anything of vol 10 yet. How much suffering is in it? Also, how much screentime does Iroha best girl get?
>>119114417
Correct.
First Memorandum: Yukino
Second Memorandum: Hayama
Third Memorandum: Haruno
>>119114530
Not much suffering. At least not for 8man. A bit of Iroha at the start.
>>119114720
More like
1st: Haruno
2nd: Hayama
3rd: Yukinon
>>119114720
>>119114956
More like
1st: Hayama
2nd: Hayama
3rd: Hayama
>>119114956
Given Haruno flat out questioning if genuine things exist in the final chapter, it's far more likely that the third memorandum is Haruno.
>>119114956
>>119115016
Third memorandum is likely Haruno.
Why can't it be
1st: Haruno
2nd: Haruno
3rd: Haruno
Seems plausible no?
Memorandums fit with all main characters of vol 11
1st Hikigaya
2nd Hikigaya
3rd Hikigaya
>>119115360
except yui, since she probably has never read Daizai's works
I don't really consider Yui a main character this volume, she didn't really have anymore screen time than even Miura.
>>119115605
>>All main characters of vol 11
Hikigaya Hayama Haruno san Yukino
vol 11 starts with Hikigaya reading the novel so all in all 8man is thinking thinking and more thinking
>>119115691
this
>That chapter 9 ending.
Man, this is getting deeper and deeper.
I love it.
>“I wonder if genuine things really exist…” Haruno-san looked overhead at the winter sky with suspended thick clouds and muttered. Where was her question that was tinged with a faint ring of loneliness directed at?
>I had been waiting for that person who could surely see right through me.
HarunoxHachiman OTP
Alright, let's clear this up. First memorandum:
>the difficulty was a little out of my league and as a middle school student, it was fairly tedious as well. I had plenty of other fun things to read too
That's not Yukino. She doesn't shy away from a challenge, and she doesn't like having fun. Besides, didn't she study overseas in middle school?
Second memorandum:
>I couldn’t forgive myself for having expectations, for thinking I had understood, for thinking I was understood.
Doesn't seem like Haruno. Who would she have expectations for? Who would have let her down? Haruno is not the self-loathing type. She's confident and self-assured. She has to be in order to play the villain to motivate Yukino, as implied in volume six. On the other hand, Hayama is already known to be the self-loathing type, with his "I'm not as nice a guy as you think" line. Also, there's this:
>perhaps, they might find me. Perhaps they might see right through me.
Compare this to chapter six:
>“I see. So Hayato’s expecting something, too.”
>“Something that’ll find him, I guess.”
Third memorandum:
>Lending my ears to those words that I thought to be the sweet whispers of a devil brought my gradual transformation into a monster of reliance.
>It’s when you came to realize your own evil that you become desperate to suppress it. In masking it away, others saw it as the truth, and eventually, it became something natural to you that it turned into the truth itself.
This fits Hayama to a tee. Hayama, the man who always meets expectations. Hayama, the man who everyone trusts (source: Ebina). Hayama, the man who relies on no one (source: Tobe).
Unless you want to claim that several different people all stumbled across books by Dazai while cleaning their rooms, and each of them stopped what they were doing to read it and empathize with it, it's pretty clear that all three memorandums are from the same point of view. It's Hayama.
>>>119115691
Yuis purpose is to be ntred
Thanks!
>>119116400
I'm pretty sure the Monster of Reliance is Yukino, considering it is something that Haruno and Hayama constantly criticize her for. Plus I doubt Hayama is aware of the "genuine thing" 8man was talking about that is referenced.
The Tyrant King in the memorandums seems to be an obvious description of 8man, and the way the narrator is describing him makes it pretty clear that Yukino is the narrator.
>“I also forgot to tell you something… I hate you too,” I said as I turned my face away.
>Hayama looked at me in wonder for a moment, but suddenly laughed.
These motherfuckers.
Someone could enlighten me on this part?:
>“Just so you know, you’ve got another thing coming if you’re going for that.”
>“Hikki, shush!” Yuigahama nudged me with her elbow as if chiding me.
>Miura moved just her neck and glared at me. “Huh? I don’t need to hear that from you, Hikio.”
>“R-Right…”
Honestly don't get it.
>>119117201
I didn't get it too
maybe Iroha?
>>119117254
If it is Iroha, then Miura is talking about Yui.
This fucking subtext man
>>119116909
>I'm pretty sure the Monster of Reliance is Yukino, considering it is something that Haruno and Hayama constantly criticize her for.
Or it could be "Monster of Reliance" as in someone that is relied on.
>Plus I doubt Hayama is aware of the "genuine thing" 8man was talking about that is referenced.
Why does he need to be aware of that? The two are similar, it's just convergent thinking.
>The Tyrant King in the memorandums seems to be an obvious description of 8man, and the way the narrator is describing him makes it pretty clear that Yukino is the narrator.
Yukino's feelings towards him are more admiration than sympathy.
looks like Liberal Arts is the new Gold Rush of high shcool
every one chose liberal arts .
this shows why japan lost its edge over technology and innovation to other countries
>>119117201
He was being vague, so my assumption was he meant sticking with Hayama and/or the thing about testing for the sciences.
Times like these are where having a fellow Japanese reader to converse with when translating would help.
So will Haruno commit suicide.
>>119117414
>muh STEM
>>119117318
Aside from the tiny segment you pointed out earlier, literally nothing else in the memorandum matches Hayama. The genuine thing is too specific to be a matter of similiar thought processes, and a lot of the descriptions of the Tyrant King (Obviously supposed to be the Monster of Logic in the story) make mention of things Hayama would have no idea of.
The 2nd memorandum matches Hayama's personality much more than this one did. Plus the memorandum is written using "Watashi", which Hayama does not use when speaking.
>>119115821
Vol 11 is not even released yet what are you even talking about.
>>119117318
you have a point. he also have a point .
this is why all 3 memorandums titles itself mention that these words can be said by anyone.
mem3 looks more by yukino and reliance part can be taken in both ways
All memorandums fit with all main characters
>>119117201
I thought it was 8man making a comment on how Hayama wouldn't let any girl get close to him, and warning Miura about what she was in for if she decided to pursue him romantically.
Though it could be a reference to Iroha, but then again I don't know what Miura's retort would mean in that case.
>>119116964
Hayama and Hachiman's bromance to stronk,
>>119117414
It shows that their school is more liberal arts specialized compared to science.
>>119114495
Sure, though my translation aren't that great anyway.
Panel 1
Iroha: Say, not like it really matters to me, but what kind of girls do you like/what kind of girls are your type, Senpai?
Hachiman: Nurturing ones.
Panel 2
Iroha: Huhhh... do you mean like a mom or something? Senpai is a real mother-con huh.
Hachiman: Uh, that's not really what I meant...
Yui: That's right!
Panel 3
Yui: Hikki likes girls who're overflowing with motherliness! (is there a better word for this?)
I can't read the first kanji in Yui's second bubble. I think it might be chest but I'm sleepy and don't want to look it up.
Hachiman: Th-that's not really it.
Panel 4:
Iroha: *Grumbling*Mrgrgrgr.
Yukinon: Yuigahama-san! What have we done to make you hate us!
Yui: Yukinon!?
I'll check over my translations in the morning. The rough translations got most of it though and I'm not really confident in the way I handled everything else. Oh well.
>>119117849
Panel 3:
He is alway looking at my chest
Hikki: N-not always
>>119117455
>大変だぞ、アレの相手は
>そういう、なに・・・めんどいのも含めて、さ
>やっぱいいって思うんじゃん
I don't know what in particular Hachiman was talking about either, but I think splitting Miura's reply into two separate lines loses a bit of nuance. I'd translate it as something more like "it's (he's) fine after all, troublesome parts included".
>>119117604
>Aside from the tiny segment you pointed out earlier, literally nothing else in the memorandum matches Hayama. The genuine thing is too specific to be a matter of similiar thought processes, and a lot of the descriptions of the Tyrant King (Obviously supposed to be the Monster of Logic in the story) make mention of things Hayama would have no idea of.
Yukino isn't even aware that she relies on people. Literally nothing in any of the memorandums fits her, let alone the third memorandum. The only link is the word "genuine", and that's a very tenuous connection. The Tyrant King doesn't necessarily refer to Hachiman, even if he's similar.
>The 2nd memorandum matches Hayama's personality much more than this one did. Plus the memorandum is written using "Watashi", which Hayama does not use when speaking.
Watashi is a formal, gender-neutral pronoun that anyone can use. The memorandums are written in de-aru form, used for written works like essays and stuff - no one uses that when speaking. The memorandums are specifically written in this very neutral style, completely removed of any identifying patterns. You can't use the writing style as a refutation.
>>119117933
Thanks. Most of my Japanese comes from the small bits I learned at home/from my grandmother and the classes I've only just recently begun.
I have a lot of trouble with stuff like this.
>>119117849
>>119117933
Thanks anon.
>>119109486
Thank You Based Spyro. You just made my New Year feel so good.
Happy New Year, Spyro!
>>119109486
Thank you Spyro.
You are the best Yahari translator.
>>119109486
Thank you based Spyro. Now I have to catch up where I left off reading.
>>119118273
>>大変だぞ、アレの相手は>そういう、なに・・・めんどいのも含めて、さ>やっぱいいって思うんじゃん
Wut?
>>119109486
>Volume 10 translation finished
>nowhere near close to done reading
I really need to catch up.
>>119117806
Is HayaXHachi a thing?
>>119123621
Me too nigger, I was waiting for the whole thing to be completed first.
Maybe I didn't feel the hype as when vol.9 was out.
>>119123878
If you are Ebina than for sure.
>>119124066
I love how Isshiki is now present in these type of tease comics.
So confession next volume surelu
>>119124177
Iroha is so incredibly useful for starting them.
Before I do it myself, is there anybody who compiled these in a PDF format?
>>119124444
Why must she be a martyr for things to trigger?;_;
If you mean the later novels in pdf format, not to my knowledge outside of the automatic BT one. That one sucks.
>>119114720
I might be crazy, but the first one might actually be Yui. I get the feeling that Yukino, Hayama and Haruno would've been able to read the book in middle school without thinking it was tedious, or at least finish the whole thing.
>>119125677
>Yui
>Even knowing the book exists
Come on.
>>119126253
>tfw stupid girls never win
>>119124533
She always triggers my duck.
Why is YukinoSHITa so worst?
>>119126415
>Why are SHITposters so annoying?
Here's your reply.
>>119126415
Who's going to win the 8bowl?
Yuki, no shit /a/.
this oregairu ost fit well chapter 9
http://youtu.be/b-Oz4gboKc8?list=PLtucGqHXz-b3oVxY3SB_VkiJiVv8R6XQg
>>119126396
I don't follow.
>>119126934
>not posting best OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96a2j9xV4Y&list=PLtucGqHXz-b3oVxY3SB_VkiJiVv8R6XQg&index=29
>>119128556
It's my favourite but that Ore no Tan is best for vol 11
Which volume should I start with after finishing the anime?
>>119128899
Start from the first because the anime really did cut out a lot of shit and haciman just isn't hachiman without his inner monologues and obscure references.
>>119128899
I'd say 1 but if you wanna skip all the parts, 7 should be fine.
>>119117527
Don't say such things please.
So I haven't read the latest one. Did Yukino x 8man happen? Or hikki x teacher
>>119129310
Sounds like you got some reading to do then.
>>119129225
I don't want her to die.
