It's been almost 4 years since Madoka began airing, and it seems more and more that it was just a passing fad. It isn't standing the test of time like Eva.
Why is this, /a/? Was Madoka even a great anime in the first place? Or was it just the result of Aniplex marketing, fooling us into thinking it was something huge and important?
>that image
>Eva
I think you forgot to shit on rebellion to round off your post
>>118152178
>It isn't standing the test of time like Eva.
Eva has aged like milk.
>>118152178
Mediocore, maybe slightly above average mahou shoujo (and don't come with this deconstuction and 2deep4you bullshit).
It was a great story but nothing ground breaking. It's still huge and it'll probably be milked to no end.
>>118152178
all it ever was was some shitty lesbian girl anime that neckbeards cried over cause it was "deep".
Madoka has more depth than most anime, plus it is a masterful deconstruction of the mahou shoujo genre. It's (unsurprisingly) stood the test of time quite well. I don't know what you're talking about, OP.
>this thread
Aww, /a/'s being tsundere for Madoka again!
>>118152178
Wait for the sequel.
>It's been almost 4 years since Madoka began airing
Holy shit.
Because we now have internet and flood of TV-ripped anime. Nothing could stand the test of time after internet, the flood of everything.
>>118152178
>First time watching Madoka
10/10
>Second time watching Madoka
6/10
>>118152456
Not fucking long enough. I can't wait until its dead and buried.
>>118152456
>this image is 1 year old
>>118152305
It's not a fucking deconstruction, a deconstruction would take a normal magical girl show and just make you take a realistic look at it.
Madoka is a SUBVERSION of standard magical girl shows, such as the mascot actually being (close to) evil, in-fighting, and the only enemy being yourselves (turned evil).
>>118152577
Mercy kill still makes me cry every time
>>118152178
>reason
isssit paedophilia?
>>118152545
This
A show nowadays standing the test of time is much much harder as there is just so much more to consume, the same is true in any form of medium.
No one thinks of topping Elvis or the Mona Lisa, or the Great Pyramids. We just look at things differently now.
>>118152647
Don't bother. Madofags like to think their meh-tier mahou shoujo is something special.
>>118152403
God I love how smug she is. We need a Smugoka thread.
Why does Madoka attract so many shitposters? Is it because it overshadowed everyones favourite show that year/decade?
>>118152700
No, it's because Madokafags are the worst cancer to ever come to this board.
>>118152700
>Why do shows with huge fanbases attract so many shitposters?
Gee I wonder.
>eva versus madoka
>again
I don't want to do this anymore.
>>118152178
>Edgy mahou shoujo.
Prove me wrong?
I advise all Madokafags to no miss out on Yuuki Yunna this season, for your magical girl suffering.
http://myanimelist.net/anime/25519/Yuuki_Yuuna_wa_Yuusha_de_Aru
>Fuu-Mami: Knows the rules of the game and such before fighting with the group.
>Karin-Kyouko: Came from out of town, to take over but ended up assisting them in the end.
>Yuki-Madoka: Wants to save people and be a hero/goddess.
>Itsuki-Sayaka: Both have dreams that they want to fight for singing/that guy and in turn they both lose their dream.
>>118152842
Friendly reminder that Yuuki Yuuna has better writing than Madoka.
>>118152842
>>118152875
Takahiro > Urobutcher.
>>118152842
>>118152876
>Itsuki = Sayaka
Confirmed for bullshit
Reminder that Madoka may exist.
>>118152906
I never expected the man who wrote Akame ga Edge to create such human characters.
>>118152752
6th time?
Homura did nothing wrong.
>>118152741
>Madokafags are the worst cancer to ever come to this board
How are you enjoying your first month trying to fit in? Did the Naruto threads bring you here? How about those countless Fate threads, huh?
>>118152305
There's always this faggot
>>118152842
Is there really suffering? Don't troll me
>>118152875
Agreed. I could write an essay on why YYY is a better show but nobody realizes it because they think Madoka is the best the genre can get.
>>118152984
>that gif
>>/reddit/
>>/9gag/
>>118152178
In the west, I would certainly agree it's more of a passing fad than Eva.
>>118152916
>I don't believe in madoka
>>118153015
I'm just glad you recognize the fact, anon.
>>118152960
He's completely right though.
>>118152992
It's not a troll, there is really well done suffering here, it really kicks in with EP8&9 and soon to be EP10 as well.
>>118153015
>I could write an essay on why YYY is a better show
Sure thing anon.
>>118152545
1995~1999 Eva circlejerk was really scary, in terms of cult. I know about it. Every secret otaku club in Japan uni, and subculture hipsters were totally absorbed to it and played Recorded Eva VHS again and again. Their only external communication way was a few subculture magazines. Man, all those symbolism circlejerks happened there.
>>118153038
>>118152875
True this, characters that aren't controlled by the plot is really good.
>>118152876
Looks like ecchi-otaku shit
The character designs are terribly bland too
>>118153077
Only someone who hasn't watch YYY would say this.
>>118153027
>You
>>/out/
>>118153077
Meaning there's a lot of reasons it's a better show. An essay's worth. Everyone knows nobody on /a/ can actually write well.
>>118153015
>I could write an essay on why YYY is a better show
Do it, then.
>>118153117
Fuck off
>>118152916
Homura did nothing wrong
I never got all the hype towards it even when it was airing, to be honest. I watched it with you but never felt the need to discuss it.
>>118153197
It isn't popular /end
>>118152178
>Was Madoka even a great anime in the first place?
No
>something huge and important?
No, that was the just the otaku eating up their loli content.
>>118153119
There actually isn't any ecchi in this at all, it's a well done magical girls show with your dose of suffering.
>>118153109
>madoka characters
>plot driven
This is by far the most bullshit argument against this series.
Madoka is too popular and I dislike the fanbase
Therefore Madoka is shit
>>118153240
>>118141109
>***,*31位/***,*31位 ★ (**2,620 pt) [*,*95予約] 2014/12/17 Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru [Blu-ray]
It's already growing in popularity, hipster-kun.
>>118153326
They're plot devices, you retard.
>>118153015
All I can say is, YYY is better so far because it doesnt get dragged down by the shitty Sayaka arc.
>>118152178
japanese don't give a damn about eva and other old works
their preferences are very fluid and basically always moe shit so theyre just crazy for rove rive the most now
>>118152178
because eva was known for its shitty ending. everybody tends to remember shitty things but forgets the good stuff
>>118153373
You must be really dumb or lacking some serious attention spam to not to realize that almost every thing that happened in the show was caused by a girl's desires and actions.
>3 weeks until 2015
>Still no Geofront
>Still no Tokyo 3
>Still no Eva
>Still no Nerv
At least, we would witness the true end of Eva in 2015.
>>118153365
>>118152456
Been here for Geass Sunday and before that.
I don't think any other airing series is gonna top the enjoyment I had following Madoka week to week with /a/
>>118152992
Do not read if you hate spoiler.
Here is a brief summary.
Basically we are in the far/alternate future where humanity got wiped out by a virus outbreak. So to protect themselves, they barricaded themselves behind a barrier using shinjuu(some god tree) power. They are always attacked by vertex(like angels from Eva). There are 12 of them based on the zodiac. These vertexes just appeared and only go after the tree. The Madoka comparison come from the girls being magical girls and they are basically thrust and conned into the position of defending Nerv from the angels without a choice.
Defend or die. Defend and sacrifice theirtheir own body partseverytime they fight. Can't borrow power from a god without sacrifices.
>>118153716
Will watch tonight, it sounds significantly better than Madoshit.
>>118153716
Picked up
>Madoka
>passing fad
kek
It still gets a lot of threads and is well loved by many. Movie 4 on the horizon as well.
>>118153966
A far, far away horizon.
>>118153716
I've watched the show. It was like cute girls version of Anti-air raid campaign by Japanese army in later WW2.
>>118153716
rip off everything: the show.I'd even watch it if not for that stupid phone apps thing
Madoka is objectively the best anime of all time. It has a serious, mature plot with far-reaching implications, more depth than the ocean, a wealth of symbolism, and literally godly character development. Truly, Madoka is a work that stands on par with literary classics from throughout history. It's a sad statement on how low this board has fallen that so many of you fail to recognize this anime as a true masterpiece among masterpieces.
>>118153966
After Rebellion I doubt the franchise could get any worse, but SHAFT have a habit of surprising me.
>>118154202
So this is why /a/ hates us?
>>118154202
It's gotten to the point that I can't clearly see between what is bait and what is legitimate Madokafag delusion.
I want to fuck Madoka and impregnate her.
>>118154284
Yes, they hate us because deep inside they know that we, the Madoka fans, are superior beings with superior taste. But being inferior, they are angered by this and unwilling to admit it, so they take their frustration out on us.
But like Madoka, we should be compassionate to them as they despair.
>>118154284
Why? False-flagging?
it was never any good unless compared to other mahou shoujo series
it was that fandom that took it up as their EVA but the series was never anywhere fun enough
>>118154267
Homura is best and most popular girl, if you don't like the direction that was taken then that's too bad for your shit taste.
madoka haters are the worst
>>118154395
>Homura is best and most popular girl
Neither of those statements are true, actually, but what else could be expected from Homurafags besides making shit up?
>>118154395
>movie completely shits all over what little meaningful characterisation Homura had and turns her into a a generic yandere
>Madokashits still eat it up
Moeura homura did nothing wrong
>>118153396
Sayaka arc is the best part of Madoka though. In fact, when I rewatch it, it's the only part I really enjoy. The last few episodes focusing on Homura feel weak in comparison.
>>118154346
Fuck you cancer
>>118154479
I like yandere Homura, so please explain to me how that personally shits on my expectations? I love what happened, as sad as it was.
>>118154586
Please, anon. It's not healthy to express your frustration in this manner.
I only want the best for you. It's okay if you don't like Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. Having shit taste isn't the end, you can still live a productive life. So please, don't act like this.
>>118154479
>>movie completely shits all over what little meaningful characterisation Homura had
Except it's completely in-line with her character.
>>118154616
If you like her character being completely twisted for the sake of having an open ended movie to milk the franchise further, that's fine. That doesn't make it a good movie and it doesn't justify the sudden shift.
>>118154395
Homura is the most ridiculed by far now, so much that nobody ships her with Madoka any more because Rebellion turned her into an inhuman bitch.
>>118154743
Homura was always obsessed with Madoka. She repeated that week somewhere around 300 times if I recall correctly, and that was before the third movie's events. There is no yuri or romantic love in Madoka, that's all trolling and fun, but Homura was always deeply obsessed.
The events of episode 12 led directly to Homura losing her mind.
>>118154754
There is 1 obsessive Homura shitposter that I know of, other than that I see more love than hate for her.
>>118154817
>She repeated that week somewhere around 300 times
100 times, according to an interview. And it was a month that was repeated, not just a week.
>>118154709
It's made pretty clear in the series that Homura, above all else, wants Madoka to be happy. So much so that she will try and suffer endlessly just to keep Madoka alive.
Doing the exact opposite of what would make Madoka happy is completely out of character and Nomura's hissy fit through Rebellion only punctuates how terrible a part it is in an already mediocre franchise.
>>118154862
She's the butt of many doujins now with how insane and obsessed she is. Nobody takes her seriously anymore.
>>118154629
Madoka isn't cancer. YOU are cancer anon. There's no denying the powerlevel of your cancer anon.
>>118154862
>multiple people express dislike for Humera
>Hamera faggots assume it's largely the work of one obsessive shitposter
Sasuga Hummerafags
>>118154988
I'm sorry that you feel that way about me. I've said all I can to convince you to accept me, and said nothing to hurt you, so if you're going to continue to be like this the only thing I can do now is hope that you'll eventually understand that hardening your heart like this isn't the right way to live.
My guess is that none of the characters in Madoka speak to so many people as Shinji did.
>>118155009
THE SMUG!
>>118155009
Nah, we all know there are people who dislike Homura and have their legit reasons to do so, but none of them dedicate themselves to shitpost in every single thread in the exact same way.
>>118155009
He uses the same post style and posts the same crap in -every- Homura themed thread.
He is an obsessive shitposter and anyone who frequents the threads has noticed him.
>>118154947
>It's made pretty clear in the series that Homura, above all else, wants Madoka to be happy.
She began to objectify Madoka after her countless time jumps, which is evident through her interactions/lack of interactions with her, and wants to make her happy in the way she feels would make her happy, not what would actually make Madoka herself happy. She feels she knows what would make her happy more than she does due to demonstrated character bias.
She's doing the exact opposite of what would make her happy through that same character bias and misconstruing what she said out of ignorance as some sort of admission of deceit and that what she said at the end of the series when she actually knew what she was talking about was a lie.
>>118154954
Well I guess that's that, a few Japanese doujin artists made fun of her so she's finished!
>>118155254
That explains it. I don't frequent Madoka threads.
>>118154947
The series ends and Madoka is happy while Homura is in despair. When Homura asks Madoka in the dream world whether Madoka would be fine with vanishing, the Madoka that responds doesn't have the same memories as Madoka did at the end of the TV series when she made the decision she made.
Homura's actions were selfish and/or based on faulty information and inadequate reasoning due to her own state of despair.
>>118152178
I watched a few episodes and found it boring as hell, is there any point in picking it up again
>>118152577
>First time watching Madoka
10/10
>Second time watching Madoka
10/10
[...]
>Eleventh time watching Madoka
10/10
>>118155385
Experiencing the best that the anime medium has to offer.
>>118155308
When /u/ admits Madoka never loved her and her character was ruined rather than just post porn you know she got assassinated.
>>118155385
I don't know, is there any point in convincing someone like you to pick it up again?
Nah.
>>118155430
Homuhater please
>>118155430
I don't go on /u/ but from what I've heard it's populated largely by women.
Madoka never did love her, I'll admit that. The only time Madoka acknowledges Homura's affections is after she becomes god. Other than that Homura is basically a stranger to Madoka.
It's sad but that's part of why I love the series. I would love nothing more than for them to be together and happy but it will never happen.
>>118155460
If the fanbase are as smug as you I'm glad I didn't like it
>>118155574
Why did you post a picture of a sad old dude with a weird red hat on?
>>118155601
All I see is the average Madoka fan
>>118155574
If you're so retarded you'll judge shows based on their fanbase on an anonymous imageboard, I'm glad you didn't like it either.
>>118155643
He judged it based on its first few episodes and expressed that he was grateful he didn't like it because it'd associate him with people like you.
>>118155516
/u/ is basically a board for lesbianism and porn. Most threads are porn dumps and the few shows that get generals basically just talk about porn and girls fucking girls.
When you go into a Madoka general and see how people shittalk Homura, talk about how her main ship isn't true all while posting crack pairings perfectly fine, and prefer Kyouko x Sayaka greatly, you know all respect was lost for her character when she was so popular before. The trend is everywhere, too.
Madoka wasn't even good at the time. It was actually one of the worst works of fiction I've ever sat through.
>>118155726
That's wrong. It was one of the best, but you lack the intellectual development to realize that.
Maybe later in life once you've had some more experiences, you'll come back and watch it again, and you'll understand.
Fuck off.
Madoka is the best anime of all time
>>118155715
Even if that is true, I don't see how it should affect my enjoyment of the series.
Maybe she is less popular now than before but I still think she is the most popular meguca.
Who is her competition? Sayaka, Kyouko, Mami? I don't think so.
>>118155806
The Tatami Galaxy was significantly better and was released the year before Madoka.
>>118155872
The Tatami Galaxy was significantly worse, which is saying something about Madoka because The Tatami Galaxy was amazing.
>>118155135
/thread
>>118155813
Mami and Madoka are more popular in Japan, Sayaka and Kyouko are a more popular couple than Madoka and Homura by a massive margin.
>>118155902
>I don't know what good writing is
>>118155927
Japan generally has shit taste. They must like Mami because muh kinpatsu and muh tits since there is almost nothing else to her.
Madoka, well, she's a good girl. Pretty boring so I can't understand why she'd be more popular.
>>118155872
One of the few anime worthy of a 10.
>>118155927
>Mami and Madoka are more popular in Japan
I know Madoka is but not sure about Mami.
>Sayaka and Kyouko are a more popular couple than Madoka and Homura by a massive margin
Might be true when I think about what I usually see around but pixiv tags say otherwise.
>>118155981
You shouldn't insult yourself like that, anon.
>>118156058
It was really good but I wouldn't give it a 10. Ultimately it's just a well-made time-loop story. The artstyle sets it apart certainly, but it isn't inherently better than any other.
>>118156058
What are the others you consider a 10?
>>118156137
Madoka was really good but I wouldn't give it a 10. Ultimately it's just a well-made time-loop story. The artstyle sets it apart certainly, but it isn't inherently better than any other.
>>118156182
>madoka
>well-made
Too much QUALITY and bad animation.
>>118156182
Man, I was hoping that one of the two Tatamifags in this thread would actually be willing to have a real discussion rather than be a retard who can't tolerate criticism of their "perfect" show.
Oh well.
>>118156137
Berserk is really good but I wouldn't give it a 10. Ultimately it's just a well-made revenge story. The artstyle sets it apart certainly, but it isn't inherently better than any other.
>>118155927
I wish more people supported best couple MadoSaya.
>>118156145
Rose of Versailles
Mushishi
Utena
Gankutsuou
>>118156137
JoJo was really good but I wouldn't give it a 10. Ultimately it's just a well-made shounen story. The artstyle sets it apart certainly, but it isn't inherently better than any other.
>>118156326
Well Homura is dead to a lot of people, the main 4 girls inthe show included, and Sayaka is the new hero, so it's more likely than Homura being her lover. Kypuko would have to die though.
>>118156145
Boku no Pico
Pupa
Wonder Momo
Mars of Destruction
Skelter Heaven
>>118156137
Red Garden is really good but I wouldn't give it a 10. Ultimately it's just a well-made mystery story. The artstyle sets it apart certainly, but it isn't inherently better than any other.
>>118156363
>>118156319
>>118156182
Stay salty, hipstershits.
Your show isn't good, or even decent, because it's different. The Tatami Galaxy was a repetitive mess, and the fact that you think it's a masterpiece shows how absurd your "taste" really is.
Jojo, Madoka, and Berserk, are all leagues better than it at what they try to do.
>>118156464
Man, I was hoping that one of the two Madofags in this thread would actually be willing to have a real discussion rather than be a retard who can't tolerate criticism of their "perfect" show.
Oh well.
>>118152178
>and it seems more and more that it was just a passing fad
see
>>118141109
>>118156516
Why does she sit like that?
>>118156137
You can take your post and insert just about any show as long as you change "time-loop" to a vaguely fitting genre for said show. If you want to flaw the show, point out the flaw and explain why it's a flaw.
>Daily discussion about Madoka
>It hasn't standed the test of time.
Might I remember you that the only thing everyone discusses about Evangelion at this point is
>REI Q A SHIT
>SHIKINAMI A SHIT
>REI VS ASUKA
>WHO'S THE BEST GIRL AND WHY IS IT MISATO?
It makes no sense, especially when it was well established since ten years ago that Maya was the winner.
>>118156679
Most Madoka threads are like that too, usually best girl arguments and Homushits vs Homuhaters.
>>118152178
Because of an absolutely fucking awful fanbase that made me go from absolutely loving the show and wanting to talk about it to loathing absolutely everything and anyone related to it.
God Madoka threads are garbage.
>>118156464
>meaningless insult
>another point that has no substance
>another unjustified point
>>118156722
You shouldn't let the shitty fanbase make you hate Madoka. Sure these threads are annoying as shit, but I still enjoy the series.
>>118156627
Fair enough.
It's hard for me to criticize The Tatami Galaxy in terms of flaws because the truth is I don't consider a masterpiece to be "any show with no flaws," and there's nothing that really stands out as bad about the show. However, I don't think it's as impressive as some of the other anime I've watched. I liked it, and it had an enjoyably unique direction as well as a worthwhile message, but that was it. I've seen other anime that had all that, plus incredibly powerful emotional scenes, plus characters I get really invested in, plus amazing soundtrack (although I should add that I did like the OP and ED for the Tatami Galaxy).
There's nothing wrong with it. I also can't find fault with Azumanga Daioh, but I wouldn't consider that a masterpiece either.
I guess it comes down to what one looks for in a "masterpiece" and I don't look for technical perfection.
I thought Madoka was a masterpiece until I looked more into the mahou shoujo genre.
>>118152875
It's not that I doubt it. It's just that despite enjoying madoka I'm quite intolerant of magical girl shit and I don't think I'd enjoy putting myself through another series of it.
>>118156773
There hasn't been a single justified or explained point in regards to the Tatami Galaxy being better than Madoka in this entire thread.
One shitpost deserves another.
>Standing the test of time
>eva
No. Just no. Madoka is a well paced, thuroughly structured tragedy with a pretty straightforward ending. Everyone got what it was going for, and that story, the story it intended to tell, is what resonated with people.
Eva on the other hand failed at delivering its message. By that I don't mean that it failed to convince people that what it was trying to say was the truth, but that people didn't get what it was trying to say in the first place, that they projected whatever the hell they wanted into it. That's why people are still talking about it. No matter how you look at it, that is not a sign of quality writing.
By the way, fuck the new captcha.
>Madoka becomes super popular
>Thousands of topics of analysis, it gets dubbed everywhere and helps lots of people to get into a new genre
>Meanwhile, princess tutu remains a hidden gem and when I try talking some reason into people I am made fun of because the anime has "tutu" in the title.
>>118156878
>Eva on the other hand failed at delivering its message. By that I don't mean that it failed to convince people that what it was trying to say was the truth, but that people didn't get what it was trying to say in the first place, that they projected whatever the hell they wanted into it. That's why people are still talking about it. No matter how you look at it, that is not a sign of quality writing.
No, anon, you just aren't intelligent enough to understand the deeper meaning of Eva. You and everybody else.
>>118156886
Princess Tutu gets some love now and then.
>>118156878
Evangelion was so misunderstood especially here in Italy it's amazing. Most of the fad has disappeared but I vividly remember back then the hundreds of websites of analysis about apocripha, bible, angel's names and so on. There was an incredible one about how Shinji during evangelion crosses the three of sephiroths in order to become a god.
>By the way, fuck the new captcha.
I agree, on paper it should made things easier since it should not ask again and again for the words captcha but it does.
>>118156935
>No, anon, you just aren't intelligent enough to understand the deeper meaning of Eva. You and everybody else.
Anno Plz
>>118156868
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Madoka isn't a fading fad, it's just the perfect magnet for shitposters to rally around and delude themselves into thinking the show wasn't nearly as good, popular, or influential as it actually was/still is.
Stay assblasted faggots.
>>118156878
>Eva on the other hand failed at delivering its message
If you're too retarded to even understand oriental moving pictures for children, sure.
>>118157001
Rebellion basically killed the franchise, save for yurifags who like apple raspberry juicy juice.
>>118152248
You're a chimp. Eva has aged like wine.
OP, the only reason we went so crazy over Madoka is because it had more depth than most anime. It was just a cool little show but the yurifucks decided to turn it into an obsession.
>>118157296
It's only above average in story depth and severely lacking in character depth.
>>118157065
I wasn't saying that the message is too complex, I'm talking about people misinterpreting Eva regardless of how obvious it should be. Take a look at all the idiots who liked Rei as a character, eventhough she doesn't have a character. She's an empty shell, and yet they just projected whatever thought and feelings appealed to them into her at their convenience. How did anno manage to fuck up the simple task of getting something as strightforward as Reis character across to his audience? Simple. Because his writing is shit.
To a lesser extent this problem existed with Madoka as well. Quite a few people didn't seem to get Sayakas character, not because the ideas behind it were bad, but because they weren't related to the audience very well.
>>118156326
Shipperfags are the scum of the earth and I genuinely wish to see every single one of them burned on inverted crosses.
>>118157489
All three Reis in the TV series each had their own distinct personality.
>>118156903
>insult and shit on their characters
Are you the guy that always complains about "crack shipping"? Well. you should know that MadoSaya isn't "crack shipping" at all, and it isn't an insult to the characters. It's based on canon yuri moment in the series when Sayaka says she's going to marry Madoka.
>>118157489
>doesn't have a character
>empty shell
The whole point of Rei though is that she starts out as an empty husk and slowly starts developing into a human being, just doesn't have enough time to do so 'till the events draw to an end. That's her entire appeal. She's essentially developing towards becoming what Kaworu was when we first see him. She expresses her feeling of identity and individuality during instrumentation and how she's afraid of losing that.
Looks like mogolian cartoons intended for infants really are too fucking deep for you.
>>118156824
Konaka has written several of my favorite works and I can't find any reviews or anything for that, is it just a basic good mahou shoujo or is there more to it?
>>118157630
Stop listening to the opinions of others. Watch it and find out for yourself.
>>118157752
Stop trying to communicate with shipperfags as if they were human beings. They're below subhuman. Their very existence is a fucking disgrace to us as a species.
>>118152178
Madoka has not aired on TV in multiple countries like Evangelion as far as I know
>>118157624
Rei I and II are irrelevant, the one people care about is III, and yes, you are right about her character, but do you really believe that's what people saw in her? Fine. Why don't you ask a few Reifags what the reason the character appeals to them is?
>>118157752
A marriage proposal is "shallow interaction" now? Being dear friends since childhood is "shallow interaction"? You are a fool.
>>118157835
Even worse than bronies?
>>118158049
Yes because at least they're not shitting up discussion of decent shows.
>>118157835
Speak for yourself, human.
>>118157624
More like she was heading towards that but then after episode 6 she was abandoned, then picked up back again near the end only to die and start from scratch.
>>118157752
I would much rather have Madoka x Sayaka happen if the alternative was Madoka x Devil.
Not like anyone actually loves anyone for real.
>>118158100
>start from scratch
Nope. You're a muppet.
>>118157574
>basing a ship off of a joke in the first episode before the story even happens
Superior ship reporting in.
>If you want to keep your thread from pruning, just bother Madofags around there.
They would definitely save it.
>>118158184
I can accept that ship too. Anything to oppose the disgusting MadoHomu.
>>118152178
>Or was it just the result of Aniplex marketing, fooling us into thinking it was something huge and important?
What are you even trying to say? That Madoka didn't stood the test of time because it's not milked to death like Evangelion?
>>118158190
>Madoka loves her for her
Not anymore, and even then it was as friends. There is no romance.
I would rather Madoka end up with a friend than a psychopath if I had to choose.
>>118153263
>:^)
Fuck off.
Is Nagisa the Mari of Madoka?
>>118158299
MadoHomu is an evil abusive relationship, and I'll do whatever it takes and side with anyone to stop it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
>>118158439
No, at least Nagisa is cute.
>>118157407
No shit, but even then that's more so than a good chunk of anime. That's why people still talk about this dumb shit.
>>118158487
Give me one example of Madoka caring about Homura as more than a friend. Best friend, sure, but just a friend getting the same attention she had for everyone.
Nothing special, and then Homura threw it away forever.
>>118158244
>Madoka
>not milked
Are you fucking stupid?
>>118158555
There are quite a few anime from 2011 that beat Madoka in both departments.
it was really great. to get 4 years of constant discussion is a pretty impressive, concerting most shows are forgotten within a month.
>>118158723
Madoka is kind and would do that for anyone having an emotional breakdown. I don't see why keeping the ribbons means she loves Homura. It's more like Homura gave them up and Madoka thought nothing of it due to memory shenanigans.
>>118157624
Naw man. She's not developing towards Kaworu. She's far, far ahead of Kaworu. If she developed towards Kaworu, it'd break the character.
It'd be actually going backwards. Rei is intelligent and introspective, if she started developing towards being Kaworu she'd have to dumb herself down.
>>118158959
Why would Madoka love Homura with her memories gone? She never even cared about her until she became a goddess. It feels more likely her keeping them is Homura's doing.
>>118159238
Possible, but they barely affected her in the other timelines.
Still, I doubt it's romantic love. Madoka loves the world too much to fall in love with Homura, and after Rebellion she shouldn't have any faith left in her.
>>118152178
>like Eva
Do you seriously expect anything to hold like Eva?
We can all agree that Lain is a rip-off of Madoka Magica.
>>118155410
>nth time watching Madoka
n/n
>>118159111
Madoka always cared about Homura. The distance between them in the main timeline was because Homura was so deliberately cold and removed from her original character. Moemura is Madoka's fetish, and Madoka can't resist Homura's softer side even when it's just hinted at.
It's only 4 years OP. You should look at Haruhi instead; despite how dead the series seems the fans still wish to believe that somewhere that LNs will come through and Haruhi S3forever
>>118159689
This.
>>118158673
Name some.
you're all going to forget about YYY by the next season but Madoka is eternal.
![[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_01_[BD][h264-1080p_FLAC][462E256B].mkv_snapshot_14.23_[2014.12.09_11.53.19].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G0ZDDJA.jpg "[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_01_[BD][h264-1080p_FLAC][462E256B].mkv_snapshot_14.23_[2014.12.09_11.53.19].jpg")
>>118158644
nobody cares about the spinoffs, bruh. That shit isn't even canon
>>118158644
Recaps and one masterpiece sequel, which is even better than original series, aren't milking
>>118152178
Bit of Aniplex marketing, bit of it actually being surprising good. To me it (TV series that is) along with AnoHana are like their only good high profile originals ever period in absence of their usual hyping BS except both pretty much at an 8/10 kind of level as opposed to the whole redefined my entire existence best anime of all freaking time level.
>>118152577
If I ever do rewatch that show I'm almost certain my score for it will go down since so much of it'd intrigue had to do with continually finding ways to subvert expectations of its genre rather than particularly strong writing and thematics. Plus Urobuchi has done the same essential thing several times with different genres since so its hardly a new trend anymore the whole subversion and darking up children's programming. Hell it wasn't even that fresh an idea when it aired since Tomino did more or less the same thing with Gundam just nobody had ever thought to do it with a cutesy magical girl show before.
>>118152178
>Was Madoka even a great anime in the first place?
It had a decisive beginning, middle and end, didn't overstay its welcome and had the decency to wrap itself up (until Rebellion). That already puts it head and shoulders above most anime.
>>118152741
Urobuchi fags. The whole damn industry and fan base is currently either trying to crawl out from under his shadow and reliance on his company for ideas for hit series or has this crazy love affair and idolatory of him. Madoka is just part and parcel of an even more annoying trend that started it all.
>>118161210
>just nobody had ever thought to do it with a cutesy magical girl show before.
The author of Sailor Moon did.
>>118160399
Why would I forget about the better show?
>>118152178
Madoka was basically watching an average mahou shoujo anime backwards. It was good, but it wasn't great.
>>118154754
That whole twist seemed so extreme even by Urobuchi standards and IMO kind of revealed his true worth and outlook as a writer in a big way. The way he views the world and how characters should interact is no deeper or less otaku oriented than your average LN writer, he just used to be better at hiding it.
>>118158517
Agreed, Madoka treats Homura like shit. All these Madoka worshiping faggots make me sick.
>>118157407
Yes, people went apeshit over Rebellion because characters were simple
>EVA vs Madoka
>Madoka is fun to watch
>Madoka has a good OST
>Madoka has pretty art
>Madoka has characters I care about and like
>Madoka has a good MC
>EVA is boring as watching paint dry
>EVA has a shitty OST with dat CICADA CICADA CICADA I'M A CICADA
>EVA has art that makes my ribs hurt to look at it
>EVA has no characters I like except our drunken goddess
>EVA has the worst MC of all time who spawned endless streams of awful copycat MCs--the boring, bland, beta, black haired loser nobody who gets everything handed to him and girls literally falling onto his cock
>>118152255
>>118152281
>>118152298
>>118152305
People are butthurt that it's more popular than theircutewaifu again. I recently got a friend to finally watch it, and as soon as he had finished it he said he sees why it's so popular. It was way above most shows in all aspects, depth included, even if it's a far cry from other media's depth (i.e. any book that has been read by anyone born after it went out). Deal with it already
>>118162098
Here's your reply.
>>118162136
Explain to me the depth of Madoka.
It was a moe cash in with a big plot. Not much else.
>>118158627
We both know she understands the character she's voicing well and if you say otherwise it'll be pure denial
>>118162279
Sure it'sin the archive.
Madoka is pretty dead. All they are doing now is milking the money out of Yurifags
>>118162136
>book
It's the same with any film; everyone always says the book is better than the movie.
>>118162319
>Madoka
>moe
>>118162422
Yeah. Ume is doing the chara design so it's moe.
>>118162421
And if you read some, you'll know why too.Even tho I haven't really had the focus to read in a long time
>>118162098
Eva has the best cast of characters ever, how could you not like them?
>>118152178
Oh boy, it's this again. No, Madoka was just a rehash of Nanoha but with some extra DARKNESS added by Urobuchi, who is not a great writer anyway. He was just a one-trick-pony.
>>118162703
He already got his guaranteed reply. Fucking kill yourself you retard.
madoka is for me one of the better anime I've watched,
usually I'm not too into mahou shoujo
but I loved how this little genre twist (no I don't think deconstruction is a right term for this)
had a dark yet not bleak tone, a story that unraveled well, good visuals, and very nice voice acting.
and yes I also loved rebellion, it wasn't put together as tightly as the rest of the series
but it gave a much-needed development to homura's character
also I'm puting YYY on my watch list now, you guys got me curious
>>118152178
lolies and catering to moe culture that jumps on every new show and doesn't care about what they watched last week.
Thats why.
>>118162840
>people with opinions I don't like are trolling
>>118163666
No Lucifer, people that express shitloads of "unpopular" board opinions and do it in a manner that blatantly resembles trollbait are trolling you dipshit.
>>118163788
To be fair, most of what he wrote about Madoka is popular opinionbut the way he wrote all that is obvious bait
>>118162098
I watched both, and I liked both. Also, Eva has the best MC, how would you explain otherwise that it spawned so many "copycat MCs"?
>>118163972
How about people copying its success?
