Who is the best swordsman in anime or manga?
>>118066637
Certainly not pic related, OP.
Kenshin.
Mihawk?
>>118066637
guts
RUKI RUKI
>>118066685
/thread
Battousai.
gatsu ~~
>>118066637
AIDS-chan, the last swordsman, the zekken!
>>118066637
Do you even have to ask?
>>118067704
Guts is a great fighter, but a trash tier swordsman.
Irako Seigen
>>118066685
His master was better according to canon.
Not even best in his own series.
>>118068334
Nah, he is a first rate swordsman, I don't know what fiction has you thinking, but moving your sword and creating a shock-wave is not proof of your swordsmanship, being able to handle the sword the way he does is proof of constant practice since birth.
>>118068334
![[Swords Internally].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rs5JBZs.jpg "[Swords Internally].jpg")
>>118066637
>>118068633
He's definitely very skilled and and way above average, but his prowess in battle is because of both that, and his ridiculous strength.
You can say kenshin but he's got plot armor out the ass everywhere even though he finally struggles a bit towards the end fighting dudes.
My vote goes for Jubei or the guy that gets blinded in Baslisk.
Does /a/ even Shichika?
Best sword___right here.
Hmmm, can Shiro trace him?
>>118067556
>aids chan
my sides she is actually being called like that here on /a/.
>>118068782
Shirou is actually a pretty mediocre swordsman.
He manages to keep up by exploiting weaknesses rather than outskilling his opponents in a straight fight.
>>118069369
>not getting the joke
>>118066637
Swagamoto with a sword.
>>118069369
>joke
>your head
Shirou is a sword man but still >>118069241
Shichika is better
>>118069241
nigga he ain't even the best Nisio sword user.
>>118069091
Which Jubei
>>118069241
He's a sword, not a swordsman or a sword user, so he doesn't count.
obvs it's Ichigo.
eym dah besd
Skill?
Practical ability?
Physical output?
Because if you limit yourself to the first one, you disqualify most of the powerful swordman since they are fucking shit at fighting outside of their power level.
If you limit yourself to the second one, you have to perform a great skill. Such as Fake Assassin from Fate.
You can still have shit skill, and shit power, but you do retarded things for single moves or combos.
And then you have if you are actually strong. Mihawk and Zoro are pretty bad as swordmen go, but they are really really strong.
If they was not that strong, they would not be top 1%.
>>118067704
Guts is pretty good, but he isn't that good. He is the third class.
>Kenshin
Kenshin is has issues. Especially when his master is better than him, to a extreme degree.
>>118069922The Heartis the best swordsman.
>>118069922
>>118069861
>Bleach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNhsXnxl04w#t=69
Trunks from the future
>>118068633
Most of the manga artist giving their swordsman character the ability to create shock wave cut for the purpose of entertainment and powerlevel. They do not understand the true fundamental behind swordsmanship, but miura knows and handle the concept very well.
That being said, Serpico might be another good and real swordsman without his feather sword. Capable of cut with extremely precise and beating noobs noble with one hand.
Miyamoto Musashi
Or that old man in his prime
Hiko Seijūrō XIII, stupid question.
Sanjuro TsubakiAbaiyo
>>118066685
>Kenshin
Could he beat Afro?
Pic related for my favourite and amongst the top tier.
Objectively the GOAT is Ishikawa Goemon XIII.
>>118070354
/thread.
No super powers, no magical sword. Just some dude with skills and wooden sword.
>>118066637
He can literally cut through space with his sword.
>>118071671
>and wooden sword.
It's such a cliche, but I love it.
>You will never sacrifice yourself for worst girl
If we're talking pure destructive power with a sword, and not grace or finesse
![onepiecederpface[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gDGK00Z.png "onepiecederpface[1].png")
>>118070011
>And then you have if you are actually strong. Mihawk and Zoro are pretty bad as swordmen go, but they are really really strong.
If they was not that strong, they would not be top 1%.
>>118070765
>That being said, Serpico might be another good and real swordsman without his feather sword. Capable of cut with extremely precise and beating noobs noble with one hand.
Serpico is a good mix of skill and intelligence required to fight cleverly. But then I guess so was Griffith back in the day.
Miyamoto Musashi.
>>118071824
>It's such a cliche
It's perfectly justified, the greatest duelist in all of Japan fought most of his battles with boken.
>>118066637
Killer B is better than Omoi though.
>>118067020
yeah, battousai is the standard to beat.
>>118071878
what was the name of that anime?
>>118070074
Likes Naruto and One shitty Piece but doesn't like Bleach.
I literally don't get it. If you like Naruto, you're gonna like Bleach and vice versa. There's really no reason whatsoever to hate only one show.
It's either you like both or don't like neither.
>>118072712
>>118072784
Correct.
Does Musashi ever show up in cartoons?
I know that old fisher hermit guy in Samurai Champloo claimed that he was him, but other than that there's none, right?
>>118073229
>>118073229
>It's either you like both or don't like neither.
>>118073445
it's the same kind of bullshit show
One is in no way better or worse than the other.
>>118073517
Levi Ackerman
>>118071537
To be fair his sword itself is insanely strong. But at least it doesn't have magic powers and takes skill to use.
>>118073229
What if I like backgrounds?
>>118073702
yeah, not having them sucks but is it REALLY that important?
No reason to drop the manga because of it.
Nienami Namanie
Sabi Hakuhei
Sasaki Kojirou
>>118073823
No reason to read it past Aizen either.
>>118073924
But Shichika could've handed Sabi's ass on a platter to him. he only reason he didn't was because he had to preserve Hari.
>>118074159
>>118067704
this.any other answer is invalid.All the shit this guy has been through,all those battles, all those years.
>>118073924
>Sasaki Kojirou
Musashi bashed his skull in with a slab of wood
That's hardly "greatest swordsman ever" territory.
Nobody without bullshit swords could take on the greatest duelist of all time.
>>118074321
>Nobody without bullshit swords could take on the greatest duelist of all time
What do swords have to do with children's card games
>>118074450
The puzzle controls fate.
>>118074450
Or The Heartof the Cards.
Fake assassin is pretty damn good, he is a servant only because of his swordmanship
>>118074699
>Fake assassin is pretty damn good
Musashi is better.
>The Shining Trapezohedron is a sword
>Demonbane uses it
>Demonbane is the best swordsman in anime/manga
>>118074734
As a swordsman? I'm talking about skill alone here.
>>118069792
>>118074861
Yes, in terms of skill.
Musashi did wreck him and his laundry pole with a bokken he carved from an oar a few minutes before the battle.
>>118074947
>>118069792
Both of those niggas ain't got nothing on Musashi.
>>118066637
yajirobe
this motherfucker right here
She's pretty good when she's not against Double Jesus or the washing machine
>>118075143
I have yet to see the fate version of musashi, so I have yet to see a musashi that can keep up with servants that can go hypersonic speeds
>>118075237
>Koha Ace
>>118075237
It doesn't really matter.
Musashi wrecked him effortlessly once already, so he's clearly more skilled than Koujirou.
>>118075311
The fate version of Kojiro isn't even Kojiro though, he's a random guy who lived on the mountain and perfected god like sword skills, the grail chose him because he was the closest match for the legend of Sasaki Kojiro, he never even fought him in the fate universe. And once again, he can fight at hypersonic speeds, he has A+ agility and Eye of the Mind(Fake).
>>118066637
>>118075512
Never touched Koha Ace, it's a parody isn't it? Why should I take it seriously?
>>118075595
It's canon and it has the best Sabers.
>>118075595
>Why should I take it seriously?
Kaleidoscope.
>>118066637
It's like people have not read Vagabond.
oh, that's right. Everyone here is a pleb.
>>118076238
>reading Manga adaptions of traditional literature
No Anon, you are the pleb
>>118068865
With that comment I now know for a fact that you know nothing about swordsmanship, like quite literally nothing.
>>118066637
Kyoshiro
>>118070354
This to the max
Who is the best swordsman in anime or manga that uses western swords?
>>118077309
He's probably a close contender since he had his sword sealed in its sheath for probably a decade.
![[HorribleSubs] Gintama - 229 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.49_[2014.08.11_00.10.22].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MHjCtV5.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Gintama - 229 [720p].mkv_snapshot_09.49_[2014.08.11_00.10.22].jpg")
>>118070354
>Joui War arc never
>>118070354
Fucking /thread
Gintoki is objectively the best and anyone who says other wise is an underaged faggot.
>>118070354
>>118071671
>>118078057
>>118078420
>>118078457
This is a Gintama thread now. Dump what you got.
>>118078338
Probably Saber.
Or Guts.
>>118078338
Still Gintoki.
>>118070074
It amazes me how few of those series I've watched.
>>118073960
Fullbring was the best arc because it got away from powerlevels for a change
come at me
How many doors does she have?
RIP Takasugi
>>118070865
>Hiko
This.
Confirmed strongest in RK, so strong Watsuki hesitated to use him at all.
>>118070865
>Hiko Seijūrō XIII
Yes
>>118073342
>Does Musashi ever show up in cartoons?
vagabond
baki dou
Fujiki Gennosuke or Irako Seigen
Shigurui is GOAT for swordsman
![i1WGfAhZG8Jvy[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ARSLnMI.gif "i1WGfAhZG8Jvy[1].gif")
>>118073342
Gundoh Musashi.
Musashi basically acts like Sonic the Hedgehog, and fights with an electric sword that only knocks people out, and dual revolvers loaded with "sleeping bullets" that only put people to sleep.
It also has quality van levels of animation.
>Gintoki
>Gintoki
>Gintoki
Kondo is the true swordsman. It's not about the sword you have in your hand, but the one you keep in your heart.
>>118069688
>He's a sword, not a swordsman or a sword user
that's the joke
>>118066637
Zoro... or at least he eventually will be.
>>118079808
Killer Bee beats his gimmick easily.
Man, unsure
Woman, Pic related , Theres no one remotely close to her
>>118080208
i want her to destroy my dick
>>118080208
Any Saber clone would wreck Erza.
Shiki probably, then again, that's just ungodly Critical Hit...
Yoshika?
>>118079901
I disagree but respect your opinion and there is nothing you can do or say to change it.
>>118080489
Kek, can a Saber clone beat "Plot Armor" and "Plot Sword"?
Nope.
>>118080779
It's called Avalon, Imperial Privliage RPS and Plot Killer.
Hes the best
>>118080779
>Kek
>>118075453
Only logical answer
>>118079764
A joke is supposed to be funny
>>118078505
>>118081137
>Gintoki bottom for Mayo san
>Gintoki bottom at all
Kek
>>118080840
this anon gets it
>>118081137
>Gintoki taking it in the ass from Mayonnaise
>Not Gintoki giving Mayonnaise it up the ass
0/10
>>118069369
He's actually fairly good by the end of every route, though fairly good doesn't really mean shit when nearly all his opponents are statswise >>>> to even his endgame future hero self.
>>118078338
Gawain a shit
Best swordswoman coming through.
Gao.
>>118081320
Whore of the Lake please go.
>>118066637
Even in Narutoverse there are swordsmen that are far better, like 7 swordsmen of the mist ie
>>118081418
Gawain a best knight
>>118066956
He was a swordsman but his sword skills aren't at all the source of his overpowered-ness.
>>118081418
Worst knight
Can't even beat Lancelot with his sunny bullshit
>>118067704
He's top tier, but not anything like MASTER TIER
>>118081548
Lancelot a shit who stalled like the betrayer he is. Gawain did nothing wrong.
>>118081548
>Implying Gawain can be defeated under the brilliance of the sun
>>118081610
>Gawain has his sunny bullshit
>Lancelot just fights him until it's night then kills him
Gawain a shit
>>118069688
His body is a sword, and he uses his body to fight. How does that not qualify him as a swordsman?
I'm ignoring the joke that he's a sword-man because he is both that and a swordsman.
>>118066637
>>118066685
>>118068601
>Dont want to kill anymore
>Do pic related
>Shishio is still alive
Cmon man, there aint no one be this good
>>118073646
Without 3DMG he wouldn't be anything special whatsoever. That's where all of his skills lie.
>>118078587
Saber's not even the best swordsman in the round table
>>118079489
Kondo heart sword has stabbed my heart
truly best
>>118081910
Saber's a shit swordsman who relied on Excalibur/Caliburn, Avalon, and Prana Burst.
>>118066637
Gin-san
>>118081736
that movie was a travesty
>>118081206
>>118081265
Fine you faggots! Here, mayo a beta fag. Better now?
>>118078505
>>118083244
Much better.Now stop this gay shit.
>>118066637
GUTS
>>118083244
A vast impovement. Now stop posting this gay shit anon, stop being a faggot.
>>118083244
Why does everyone have a problem with Gintoki being a bottom. Is it that unrealistic that he might like getting his prostate milked.
>>118083417
>Is it that unrealistic that he might like getting his prostate milked.
It is. If anything he's milking prostates.
>>118081910
Isn't berserker the best swordsman of the round table?
>>118067906
In his defense, that looks really fun to do, and if you have a katana, you might as well use it.
>>118083508
Yes, that's why I said that saber isn't the best swordsman.
>>118079205
This man speaks the truth.
>>118066637
Like anyone could beat him in a fight.
>>118076238
You are joking, right?
There's absolutely nothing that he cannot cut.
Not even a contest
>>118083853
>Can barely take out 70 men with an ambush, despite prime physical condition and zero people with bows.
>crippled afterward
Sure.
>>118067704
How could Guts be the best swordsman when he doesn't even use a sword?
It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. Indeed, it was a heap of raw iron.
>>118084007
I meant the snowman.
>>118083670
>beats down literally superhuman strength people just by sword skills
yeah i'd say i'd agree with this anon.
>>118083588
Just don't film yourself and put in on the internet expecting people to think you look cool.
You won't look cool.
You are all wrong.
>>118084078
Nice one.
That's the first time I've heard that line recited outside of bait pictures.
>>118084289
Who's that supposed to be?
>>118084340
THE BLACK SWORDSMAN
>>118084340
The REAL Black Swordsman.
>>118068601
Kenshin during his Battousai era was arguably the best swordsman in the series, by that point the only thing Kenshin knew how to do was to kill with a sword, and he did it a lot, by the time the main series starts he's 10 years rusty.
>>118084404
He was never at his masters level.
He never trained his body to the point where he could use his style at full effectiveness.
>>118084399
I am mad.
>>118084579
He's right, though.
>>118084619
Guts would wreck that faggot Kirito though. He's just a faggot playing vidya.
>>118069922
He's not even the best swordsman in his own soul place whatever it's called.
>that bersker fighting style of white during the zanpaktou rebellion filler arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wz5KeBVtPg
>>118084619
He's right about what? He didn't make any subjective statements or assertations. Is he right about not knowing who Guts is? If so I agree, it says so right there.
>>118066637
>you will never be the greatest swordsman ever while carrying a purse.
>>118084811
>>118084747
Jesus christ how horrible.
No wonder you aren't supposed to watch the anime.
Isn't White Ichigo supposed to be strong because he uses all of his body and everything available to him in a highly unpredictable fighting style? Why is everyone moving so statically the whole time? Why is Ichigo just sitting on the ground the entire time? Why does this exist?
>>118071537
how the fuck is this the only mention of Goemon. He's the definition of bullshit katana fuckery.
OFFICIAL LIST OF THINGS GOEMON HAS CUT, WITHOUT DIFFICULTY:
>a train, down the middle
>a plan, down the middle
>cars
>I-beams
>a forest's worth of trees
>the clothes off a man's body so many times
>a lightning bolt
>a shooting star
Fuck you guys spears are better
>>118084978
Not in 2d.
And honestly, a spear is mainly good when placed next to 100 other spears.
>>118073880
as based as that manga is, he struggled too much against Rat-dude for me to put him on the level with these other guys, much less in a class of "most OP in his own series"
>mfw Miyamoto Musashi is getting resurrected in Grappler Baki right now
y'all niggers aren't even ready for the amount of stupid shit he is going to do with a sword
>>118084811
>]
>Read Bagserk
>Will never not notice panels with bags
Why did you do this to me ?
you know it's true. Kenichi power levels got too insane for it NOT to be true.
>>118085041
swords are secondary, halberds/pikes/spears/lances are primary
a dagger is a must at all times
>>118084399
>Black Swordsman
>Wears blue
Seriously?
Who is the best spearman in anime?
>>118073200
i forgot the Japanese name, but Familiar of Zero iirc
>>118071529
No Afto fights shit like mechs on a daily. Stronger faster and just as good as swordsman
>>118085041
How about a naginata for one on one combat?
>>118085357
Sanderson books are basically shitty anime, right?
Can I use Kaladin?
>>118085357
![[RG Genshiken] Gintama - 019 [DVDRip 704x528 x264 AAC].mkv_snapshot_02.52_[2011.06.15_00.38.43].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lQe0z5u.jpg "[RG Genshiken] Gintama - 019 [DVDRip 704x528 x264 AAC].mkv_snapshot_02.52_[2011.06.15_00.38.43].jpg")
>>118070354
>>118078057
>>118078420
>>118078457
>>118078505
>>118078727
>>118078923
>>118079489
>>118081137
>>118081206
>>118082559
>>118083244
>>118083255
>>118083417
Just reminding you all that Madao has literally sacrificed everything, lost everything and is the only one in the show that has legitimately done nothing wrong.
He is true swordsman.
Is it even fair to included supernatural or magical people in this question?
At some point, the pure speed and strength will far overwhelm any real skill.
>>118068482
That nigga got beat in the end.
>>118085475
True Swordsmen don't live in a box.
>>118077309
just watched this.
was good. nice soundtrack
>>118084886
>No wonder you aren't supposed to watch the anime.
It's not like the manga shows them to do actually use interesting styles or anything like that. The powers and kubo factor are what appeal to me.
>a shitty filler arc had the best combat in bleach
It's so kubo and he didn't even do it.
>>118077309
I'd kill to see him and Jim go at it. Speaking of Champloo, who is the best spear user. My top three are Lancet, Balsa, and Sara(blind chick that bodied Mugan and Jim)
>>118085357
Still Gintoki.
>>118084215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYpJqFNj40
![feng-shen-ji-3931669[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/e3vfGRy.jpg "feng-shen-ji-3931669[1].jpg")
Not sure he quite counts, as he's more of a sword-summoning mage, but whatever.he could be Archer class tho
>>118080208
Ran the Samurai Girl. GG
>>118085357
>not dual wielding spears
what a pleb
>>118085590
They do if they are cardboard samurai.
>>118084978
>that pike fight in Sword of the Stranger
So good
>>118085720
>that's so fucking cute
>you will never marry a girl like this
>>118085763
>Dies from a spear to the chest
Worst lancer
>>118085357
Balsa or Sara. I'm same gagging hard here I know
![soul-eater-1855801[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9MUvdz5.jpg "soul-eater-1855801[1].jpg")
he may have lost to Black Star, but I don't think BS was a "better swordsman", because he used a variety of ninja tools
>>118083785
He cut the moon in half once.
>>118085850
A spear to the chest is a pretty legit way to die. Diarmuid got screwed because his master was a shit and Emiya don't fuck around.
>>118085922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbuJ39cBEPk
>>118083508
Yes, Lancelot was the best fighter at the round table. Though Balin was the best fighter in Arthurian Legend, but he and his brother Balan double-killed eachother due to a curse before the round table was founded.
>>118086005
Deermud would have worked better as Saber with his demonic swords instead of his shitty spears. He lost the second he was summoned as Lancer.
>>118086042
I feel dumb for asking, but who is Goemon's VA? It's right on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't place it.
>>118084548
wow. kiro kun is BOTH darth vader shota AND the BLACK swerdzmon! so edgey! so dark!
>>118086626
I don't think you know what a shota is.
What about that Hyakkimaru guy?
>>118084340
Fnatic's VR squad showing off their newest script.
>>118085438
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Yes. Kaladin is the best lancer.
I'd like to see a Stormlight/Fate crossover.
Syl a best.
Would Shiki be considered a swordsman?
What does the sword say?
>>118088830
Inferior Shiki pls go.
Afro Samurai, motherfuckers
>>118089028
Great Taste
>>118085357
Still Gintoki you noob.
>Nobody mentioning Trunks
Seriously, could anyone of your pleb-tier swordsmen do this?
>>118092634
Trunks sucks at swordsmanship though, he would've owned Freezer withtout his sword, if anything his sword only hinders him which is why he quickly dispossed it.
Stranger: Mukou Hadan - Sword of the Stranger
This guy easily. No debate.
>>118086290
I thought Gawain was supposed to be the best of the knights
>>118066637
>King Bradley
>Results: 0
make way best swordsman coming through
