None of this "social suicide" made any sense. Literally anybody who was on the festival committee could tell the chairman was useless. 8man couldn't have been the only one who wanted to call her out for being shit at her job.
>>117387906
That's the point of that arc.
If you read the novel, most of the committee didn't even attend the meetings. They didn't get to see Sagami's work ethic. Calling someone out is not something you do in honorable Japanese society, anyway.
>>117388162
>Calling someone out is not something you do in honorable Japanese society, anyway.
No wonder they're into their second decade of recession.
>>117387906
>8man couldn't have been the only one who wanted to call her out for being shit at her job.
No, but that was the point. 8man was the one willing enough to look like the bad guy.
>>117388186
Except that much of the Japanese work culture was formed during the post war economic boom.
>>117388162
Japanese society doesn't discourage people from being attention whores?
>>117387906
If she had been a 300 pound landwhale with acne then probably Hikki could have called her out and made her look like the bad guy instead of him. However neither Japanese nor American culture supports the bullying of cute grills.
>>117387906
Everyone else is a spineless idiot. Only Hachiman has the backbone. Also since he is unpopular, his opinion would be seen as a minority or rebellion from the norm. Hachiman know if someone popular call her out for being shit, everyone else would follow suit and harass her.
>>117388488
Why not just let everyone else be spineless and give her the attention she wants? She'll go down, make her speech, Yukino gets what she wants too because the festival is a success, and everyone's happy. It's not entirely clear what he achieved in a practical sense by being a humungous dick. The reason society doesn't encourage being an asshole is because it's better for everyone if there are no assholes.
>>117388523
I actually agree with that. I just didn't get what he supposedly accomplished.
>>117389208
His version of justice.
>>117389208
>>117388523
What he accomplished was Sagami got told hard. It needed to happen for her to have any hope of growing as a person.
>>117387906
That's not how Japan work.
>>117388066
I came in here to post this. He said what everyone was thinking but he alone took all the backlash and repercussion.
>>117388394
It's a shame
Cute grills desperately need to be bullied.
Need to keep them in line
>>117389527
>He said what everyone was thinking but he alone took all the backlash and repercussion.
Because there's a good reason why nobody said what was on their mind, and it wasn't necessary either.
>>117388523
Because 8man is a petulant child who thinks being alone makes him special.
>>117389600
>and it wasn't necessary either
It was, for him, he needed to say those words, not because sagami needed to hear them, but because he needed to say them.
>>117387906
Welcome to Japan, and Asia in general, where calling someone out would not get you a round of applause, a pat on the back and some "DAYUM SON, DATS SOME BURN" hooting from the niggers all round.
It gets you estranged and isolated, everyone would gather around and pity the victim, even though they actually think you are right.
>>117389908
Jesus christ I'm glad I wasn't born in nipland.
>>117389908
Why are they so fucking beta?
>>117390393
There's something incredibly pathetic about this thoughts
>>117390537
8man is an incredibly pathetic human being.
>>117390341
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>>117389908
It's not only Japan, don't kid yourself.
>>117389908
What a strange society.
>>117390537
It is pathetic. The pretentious ramblings of a cynical nice guy.
>>117390537
It is. But hachiman's lone wolf mentality is more common than you think, especially in Japanese society. The author is clearly trying to show how pathetic it is.
Which part of 2015 is S2 of Oregairu supposed to be airing in?
>>117390537
>>117390581
>>117390609
>>117390616
I don't think you people get it. It's just a form of self-defense. Since when self-defense was a pathetic thing? You may not agree with it, or shun upon it, but it's still the only way he had to "defend" himself.
>>117390341
Nip society is collectivist. Harmony above everything.
>>117390469
>she still didn't do shit even after 4 volumes
>Iroha and recently even fucking Yukino surpassed her
Yui really needs to step up.
>>117390709
I get it all to well. You have no idea how close this show hits home.
It's pathetic because retreating from society will only make things worse.
Opening up to people means that it is also possible from them to hurt you. But if you don't want to end up lonely and depressed you'll have to take that risk and open up.
>>117388162
>If you read the novel
Speaking of which are there any epubs for volumes 6-9? Being unable to find any is the only thing stopping me from reading them.
>>117390830
>Opening up to people means that it is also possible from them to hurt you
Not only that. Opening up to people with "power" is really even harder. And we all know cute, nice girls got a really fucking lot of "power".
>>117390709
It's not good defense. There's nothing to really defend himself against but his own naivete. It's not helping him at all because he's just holing himself up to avoid being hurt, regardless of what he actually wants and whether he will actually be hurt.
Hachiman probably knows it's bullshit, and Yui isn't just nice but actually does like him, but is afraid of changing so he clings to itnot unlike anon.
>>117390393
Which volumes of the novels does the anime cover again?
>>117391039
>It's not helping him at all because he's just holing himself up to avoid being hurt
Avoiding harm is pretty beneficial
