I'll give you the most ingenious power/skill if you can invent it.
Gimmee one omnipotence, please.
>>116928527
>omnipotence
>ingenious
>>116928465
The My Power Beats Your Power Power.
The ability to cause an erection... in a woman
>>116928465
This was such a big cocktease in the anime.
At least Kumagawa and Ajimu were foreshadowed in Abnormal arc, but Hanten only shows up in Not Equal arc.
>>116928559
The ability to becoming more powerful than your opponent in anything
>>116928690
That's not very witty..
>>116928684
Hanten is the second best character in MB
>>116928465
I want the power to cause anything I touch to orgasm. Mostly for sight gags, like someone hands me a bottle of ketchup that's stuck, or I launch bottle rockets without lighting the fuse.
>>116928789
>like someone hands me a bottle of ketchup that's stuck, or I launch bottle rockets without lighting the fuse.
kek
The ability to read my own thoughts.
The ability to ejaculate magma
XXX-ray Vision
The power to control helium.Let there not be a voice unsqueakied.Also free exit bags for everyone!
The power to control inflation with the mind.
the ability to leave my room
>>116928789
Could such skill works on someone like Crab?
>>116928690
Fiamma of the right already has that.
>>116929367
That's asking too much. But I guess you could do if you lift your 600 pounds ass and turns the doorknob of your room. No power is needed
>>116929325
Besides you can fly.
The ability to stop being a virgin
>>116928465
Wasn't there suppose to be a Medaka Box one shot in jump this week?
>>116928768
Why? He has a very minor role.
Also curious who you think the best is.
>>116928465
The power to curse people with movie tropes.
This curse could end with positive or negative effect, depending on the story trope inflicted upon the victim.
The curse itself would take effect the very next time they are in a situation where it might be possible. There is no discrimination on the scale of the scenario that triggers the curse.
For example, cursing someone with "Villain monologues" trope would have them spitting out their intentions about some nasty deed they are planning - whether the monologue is over a stolen lunch at their place of business or the intention to rob a bank is up to chance.
>>116929670
>Also curious who you think the best is.
That's very easy to guess.
>>116928465
you can instantly regrow your fingers if cut off
>>116929774
What would be the purpose?
>>116928465
The ability to control electrons.
No, not "electricity" like in them comic books and them Static Shock TV cartoons.
I mean electrons themselves
that way I get the powers of "electricity" and the ability to cause chemical reactions (mainly explosions, but not limited to just that) whenever I want.
The power to give people implosive diarrhea.
>>116929804
there should be none
besides if you have no fingers anymore
if you want a useful power
try
the power of seeing into the future for like 2 seconds
The ability to cause a global paradox whenever I go to the bathroom.
>>116929920
>the power of seeing into the future for like 2 seconds
That's not useful to win the lottery.
>>116929920
>the power of seeing into the future for like 2 seconds
Wasn't there a movie about a similar concept?
The main character could see a couple seconds into the future so the government kidnap him thinking they could use his power to stop some terrorists.
Or something like that.
>>116929977
>win the lottery
how about the power to grow a second head at wish
>>116930030
That still wouldn't help you suck your own dick.
Unless you could control where the head grew.
>>116929920
but anon, how would that help me bet on professional video game matches? All that power would allow me to do is predict when I'm about to have a stroke when I bet on iBuyPower to beat Cloud9 in the LAN finals but then they lose to Cloud9
>>116929367
Mine probably includes yours.
[Power of Ganbare] Controlling your own motivations and desires skill.
reverse devil style.
The ability to reduce my opponents to predictable cliches and and obvious tropes
>>116930077
better yet, why bother with a whole head when all you need is the mouth. Maybe have the mouth at the end of a tentacle of some kind so it has some reachto rim your butthole too
the power to stop hair grow
What about the power to teleport your own penis to either side?
>>116930090
>bet on professional video game matches
If you could see two seconds into the future you could probably go pro yourself considering the huge advantages it would give you in some games.
The ability to cum and reproduce without testicles.
Testicles just get in my way.
>>116930190
>Baldness: The power to stop hair grow
>>116930235
Yeah; two seconds would be enough for CS, if you already had the aiming and tactics chops.
embodiment of charisma
>>116930235
That's a good idea
>>116930235
no, it would just make my reaction times on par with everybody else's
If you are constantly looking 2 seconds into the future, how do you know what's happening in the present?
>>116929977
It still lets you control probability and crack the passwords to everything.
the power to become a little girl once
too bad if you don't suck dick in 24h or you transform back
The Power of optimism.
>>116930235
>Not already having the ability to see into the future
>Not being blessed by Ladyluck daily
>Not having the power of mimicry
Get a load of this pleb also I don't get that filename and I'm american
The power to have whatever I wan't happen whenever I wan't.
>>116930090
>>116930235
>>116930276
And how that shit is supposed to work on first place?. I mean, that would be like having a window into your mind that shows you what happens in the next two seconds while your eyes see the present?, you'll die because embolism by stress
>>116930319
You don't need to react to anything when you already know what will happen, you can act based on information that wouldn't otherwise be available to you yet.
>>116930465
We're assuming that if you have a power like that you'd have the ability to use it effectively as part of the package. Ideally in the form of, say, the ability to pause, rewind, and fast-forward your time perception like some kind of cosmic Tivo.
Of course, that's a lot of superpower to spend on what is essentially a glorified wallhack/aimbot.
the power to pose fabulous
no there won't be any stands
the power of self improvement.
think about that for a second...
>>116930470
Are two seconds enough to cause a butterfly effect?
>>116929739
Nope, I'm too dense.
>>116930559
>improve ability to self-improve
>singularity
>>116930097
>>116930559
How about the power to never give up and always believe in your friends?
No, I'm serious. If you think about it, even if anime characters have that power nobody in the real world actually has it. I think it might get in the way sometimes, but it'd be very interesting to see a person who really was always like that.
>>116930578
Depends on what you use that two seconds to do.
Two seconds can make a huge difference if you use it to, for example, stop someone making a mistake while defusing a bomb.
>>116930532
Do you mean that while you are using this skill the time just 'stops' till you perceive the present again?
>>116930682
>How about the power to never give up and always believe in your friends?
HAHAHAHAHA
the power to become a ugly midget
>>116930749
Exactly. At least, that's a lot easier to visualize than the alternative, which would require a degree of prescience bordering on 'omniscience-lite.'
>>116930682
>even if anime characters have that power nobody in the real world actually has it.
That's called plot, better ask for a MC power
The power to shapeshift at an atomic level
The power to perceive the 4th dimension/interact with it
>>116930996
>The power to perceive the 4th dimension/interact with it
There are many interpretations about the 4th dimension, what would you choose?
>>116930615
My guess in Anshinin Najimu Najimi
>>116931113
TURNING CUBES INSIDE-OUT
>>116931151
Exactly.
The power to use light refraction to make people believe they are turning into snails
>>116931113
Isn't 4th time?
>>116931113
That shit is too over my head for me to make any real choice
But I would hope that by dragging some of the 4th dimension into the 3rd dimension that the immediate area is fucked all kinds of up.
SO I guess I would choose to interpret the 4th dimension as a portable singularity of some kind
The power to create any money from any country, without a trace of forgery.
>>116931205
Doesn't have MC Fresh as his favourite character.
The power to use "That."
>>116928465
Reality warping.
>>116931252
Perhaps.
The power to shitpost and always get replies.
>>116931295
She's still alive, it was all part of her planI'm not in denial
>>116931302
USE THAT?! Not "that" surely?
>>116931310
Sup comicfag
>>116931382
She is alive. That is the truth. It being a part of her plan however wasn't.
MC Fresh and the Furious Shiranui pretty much had MB on lockdown
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I came to post mai waifu.
>>116931698
Can you prove that it was? Cause I just proved it wasn'tpresuming this is the right page where she mentions how she'd rather not fight him
>>116931500
>It being a part of her plan however wasn't.
Can you prove that it wasn't?
>>116931765
However there is no reason to assume that this wasn't the plan from the beginning, in order to allow Medaka and her friends save the day.
Medaka Box has many contradictions, I know.it
>>116928465
The power of being so rich I can do anything.
>>116928465
The ability to create an area of complete pacifism that dispels even ill feelings towards one another.
>>116931774
What plan?
It's not clear to me that she had any plan at that point, aside from possibly killing herself.
>>116931751
See >>116931295
The protagonist power.
It doesnt matter what powers other people have, or what plans my enemies have, I always end up the center of attention. I solve the crisis, and create a harem in my wake every single time.
>>116931774
Is there a reason you deleted your post and re-posted it?
also totally got the wrong page. That'll teach me not to check the picture.
>>116931923
wow, you want the power of friendship and hippie happiness. Literally.
>>116931928
>FreshBut I'm not gay.
>>116931930
What if you're the protagonist of Sophie's Choice or some other similar story?
The main character doesn't always win. The main character doesn't always have a happy ending. The main character doesn't always survive. That's only the way it is in happy stories.
>>116931886
If she wanted to die. She had plenty of chances. See my post here >>116931972. That'll be the correct page
The power to moderate /a/ and get paid for it.
>>116930682
Those powers can be pretty dangerous.
>never give up
While you are doing something an urgent problem arises but you can't address it because of your power.
Or you might learn something that should make give up the best move.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone could come up with a scenario where you end up like Suzaku.
The power to finish my backlog
>>116929920
Mah Bantorra Nigger
>>116931972
She implies that she would rather not fight him given the choice, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't have some sort of plan that involves fighting him and losing (which she knows she can do) anyways. I mean, it's not as if the characters in Medaka Box never subject themselves to undesirable events in order to make some plan or other succeed.
I still don't think she had any plan that point, or at least I don't think there's much in the story to indicate that she did. If anything she probably survived becauseshe auto-resurrected with one of her skills once the Fresh master was destroyed and his ability deactivated.
>>116928465
The power of being able to go back in time at the cost of your memory of the future.
>>116931928
It's strange, she knew the whole story from the beginning according to their own role. Although she would not find the end, there's a manga scan where it is mentioned clearly.
Medaka Box has many contradictions. There's a part where Ajimu said she couldn't defeat Medaka, but in turn there is another part Medaka said she wouldn't fight against Ajimu claiming she could never defeat her.
>>116932233
bullshit, that's not OP at all, you can't even change the future that way
>>116928465
the power to save/load state of real life
>>116932203
We know she revived when Bombfunk MC got defeated. It was very heavily implied and I would swear to god that if she died at that moment then I'd seriously question her powers.
Also even the page I posted states she didn't know Iihiko was still alive so it stands to reason if she knew then she probably would have tried to kill herself via the person she knows could kill her.
>>116932100
Honestly, I want to see it because "never give up" and "believe in your friends" are virtues that are quite often upheld with little or no qualification in anime (or at least certain types of anime).
Part of why I liked Medaka Box was that it had the guts to show the other side of the story (in particular with Naze and her "great things come from hell" ideology), even if it still ultimately upholds those values. But I still wish those two ideals were challenged more.
Another one is "hard work." Medaka Box definitely plays that up, but the reality is that efficiency is more valuable than effort in the real world and spending 100 hours to achieve something is a waste of time if you can obtain the same result in 10 hours.
Amateurs, all of you.
>>116929817
you're practically god then
>>116932241
Anshin'in and Iihiko are meta-characters though. Ajimu knows she can't beat the Main Character because the Main Character always wins in the end and Medaka doesn't know she's the MC and as such, she just sees a strong final boss character who would overpower her.
>>116928789
The ability to transcend the weaknesses of the body and flesh while retaining only the benefits and none of the cons.
Essentially a living ghost that can still interact with the world of the living and still do shit like eating or drinking or sleeping if you feel like it but instead of being forced to do stuff like eating, you can choose if you want to eat or drink but you don't really need to do so in order to continue surviving.
The power to <unintentionally have that one item that you need right now> even if you weren't previously aware you would need it and even if you never previously possessed it.
>>116932100
Imagine you are losing all your money in the casino, but you won't leave the place because 'you never give up'
>>116928465
The ability to have any decision or scenario I encounter implied into multiple choice answers with detailed hints for the best choice to make.
>>116932390
Nice stand faggots
>>116932241
I'm not sure the point you're trying to make. Are you saying she must've had some plan after all?
And to add to what you say about the contradiction in who's undefeatable, remember the part where Medaka tells Kumagawa that he won because he bet on her? By that same logic Ajimu defeated Medaka as well. Unless of course she doesn't consider that victory. I think a fair number of the 'contradictions' in the story can be explained by the fact that the opinions of different characters aren't fact, just opinions.
>>116928465
The power of seeing the darkest corner of the mind of other people and make them appear.
>>116932418
>Ajimu knows she can't beat the Main Character because the Main Character always wins in the end and Medaka doesn't know she's the MC
Devil Style can against such 'powers' though.
>>116932418
What are you talking about?
Anshin'in is a god-being who thinks she's in a manga because she's delusional. And Hitoyoshi beats Medaka even though she is (and continues to be) the "most main" of the main characters. And on top of that, only someone who has read very few stories believes the main character never loses.
>>116932572
Devil Power negates Main Character status. Which is fine but that doesn't apply to the Iihiko who is the "reader" and neither Anshin'in or Medaka have Devil Style if I recall correctly.
>>116932551
>I think a fair number of the 'contradictions' in the story can be explained by the fact that the opinions of different characters aren't fact, just opinions.
Exactly, it all comes down to our interpretation.
>Are you saying she must've had some plan after all?
Well, I rely on what Hanten said when the entire group was coming to the Shiranui's village. "Ajimu is omnipotent and omniscient, but she as a lover of novels never want to read the final" and get spoiled.
The ability to turn 3D into 2D.
>>116932630
Medaka's opinion on Ajimu is that she's delusional. Ajimu's knowledge and powers make it ambiguous that she's not specifically there for meta-purposes.
Also was the time Hidetoshi beat Medaka when he had Devil Style?
>>116932694
>Devil Power negates Main Character status
Indeed, I was talking about medaka, if Ajimu had to fight against her.
>Which is fine but that doesn't apply to the Iihiko who is the "reader"
That's a fucking interesting theory, no sarcasm. I always interpreted it thinking Lihiko was 'another dimension', or something like that.
>>116932869
Nah man. He's literally the reader's insert. Do you remember the scene where Medaka explains her powers and then tears the book? That's actually pretty much literal. If we don't like how Medaka acts, we can just tear the book and she can't do shit to stop it
>>116932951
>medaka box will never stop being the single best shonan written that nobody will acknowledge.
Hopping through dimensions and adapting automatically to them
>>116932951
>Do you remember the scene where Medaka explains her powers and then tears the book? That's actually pretty much literal. If we don't like how Medaka acts, we can just tear the book and she can't do shit to stop it
Yes it's very interesting. That part I had interpreted it like Lihiko was invulnerable to their powers because he's in 'another dimension'. Kind of the 'Book's dimension' and 'outside of Book's dimension'. And for that reason Lihiko could hurt all irretrievably, as if he broke the paper.
>>116928465
Power to invent ingenious powers.
>>116933037
Man, Medaka Box is actually fucking amazing for a battle shonen.
"What is it to be Main Character"
"What is being "Perfect" actually"
"How does being "Perfect" affect the people around you"
It asks a bunch of questions and plays with shit really well. It also has hilariously fun characters like Kumogawa, Anshin'in and Doug. E. Fresh.
The ability to become perfect 2D with all the pros and none of the cons in this 3DPD world we live in.
>>116933173
That's not ingenious, that's cheating.
>>116933268
It will be once I use it.
>>116928465
Pretty sure Hanten can't create stupid powerful powers without drawbacks or the user dying the first time using it.
>>116933158
His name is ii-hiko. As unnatural as it is to see two I's right beside each-other. Japanese has that.
But yeah, on point. Medaka Box is pretty much Nisio and Akira basically just making a shonen and then using it to critique everything we like and dislike about Shonen.
the power of having any clothes fit perfectly
>>116928465
The power to create and place an immovable object into the world, as well as the power to remove it.
>>116933301
he can, i mean he made bullshit like the devil style.
>>116933192
i agree with this wholeheartedly.
>>116933304
Do you think Ajimu is really omnipotent?. I always have issues to discuss that. I don't really believe in the omnipotence, though.
>>116933445
If it doesn't move and the earth is rotating, what would happen?
The power
To move you
>>116933500
Paradox.
>>116928465
The power to invent the most ingenious skill
>>116933529
Why not 'the power to FUCK you', the ability to fuck whoever and whenever
>>116933546
Why would you do that, man?
>>116933462
You could probably say she has to ability to be omnipotent, but if anyone actually was omnipotent it would be incredibly boring. I mean, imagine if you knew the result of EVERYTHING you or anyone else around you did before it even happened?
So my guess is she didn't use the ability unless there was something she specifically wanted to know. With that in mind, if she only uses the ability to learn information she was curious about, she'd have to know she was curious about that information to begin with, and thus is not truly omnipotent, as if she was truly omnipotent she would already know what information she wanted to know about before she knew about it.
>>116933462
Honestly. I don't see why not. Being an author avatar does technically make you omnipotent. You can have control over the entire universe but if the reader doesn't like your story then you'll end up dead.
Even if the reader isn't omnipotent. They are the one with all the powers and that's what the Fresh/Anshin'in relationship is. It's the relationship between a reader who only knows bits and pieces but ultimately holds the authors life in their hands.
>>116933500
Perhaps I can specify "world" and not "universe". So immovable in terms of our world, but not in the terms of our universe.
Otherwise the object will just shoot off into space when I place it.
>>116933694
But it doesn't move
How will it shoot off?
>>116928465
The power to make everyone and anyone sexually attracted me for no reason. Like they won't know why but they'll crave me all the time, while still hiding it/acting normal. The trade off will be that if I ever have an orgasm I'll die. I think it would cool.
>>116928465
The power to apply brakes to the earth's rotation
>>116933628
Interesting, then she's kinda an omnipotent with switch to turn off, kek
>>116933732
>suddenly everyone gets shot off at 1690km/h
>>116933500
Depends how one defines world and at what location to other objects it was placed.
It could not move relative to it's surroundings. It could not move relative to the Earth (probably smooth out the surface of the Earth as it rotated). Or it could have an absolute position in the universe, in which case it wouldn't even remain on Earth or in the solar system for long as they'd move away.
>>116933719
Earth's orbit. It stays in position according the universe, but not to us on Earth.
>>116933771
I'd be very gentle. Just a tap.
>>116932753
I was joking about her being delusional.
And I admit I forgot about "Devil Style" (just call it a brain fart, okay?), but even with that, if Anshin'in is right then now special skill or ability actually makes any character in the story immune to the whims of the author.
>>116933192
It's interesting, because there's a lot of meta stuff in Medaka Box, but that's not really why I liked it. I always cared more about the issues it brings up and plays with regarding strength and weakness, humans connecting with each other, what it means to help or be helped by others, the importance (or lack thereof) of ideology and "rightness," what it means to "win," and the basic values of friendship, hard work, and not giving up. I guess the whole perfection thing falls into that category as well. I also like that it gives answers often enough but still manages to leave the sense that those answers aren't necessarily the correct ones.
>>116933732
I'm sure you could join the Islamic ranks.
>>116933806
But if doesn't move, we shouldn't even see it moving
An absolutely unmovable object does not move no matter the reference
Which means it's not something that should exist in the first place
Maybe the power to finally start reading MB holy shit I told myself I'd start it after S2 ended but so far I only read up to chapter 12 what the fuck is wrong with me
By the way, is there any updated version of this?
>>116933876
The movement doesn't exist, all are frozen moments which are running consecutively.
>>116933852
>makes any character in the story immune to the whims of the author.
I'd expect that to be within Anshin'in's vaguely defined powers to screw over our reality.
As to the other thing.
There's a shit ton of stuff that gets brought up that I didn't mention. I just thought of Medaka and picked three from her but Zenkichi himself has way more stuff about him that makes him a more interesting topic to talk about.
What kind of guy would deliberately remove any semblance of "MC status" from himself and others. I know that evens the playing field a bit but the actual MC are still infinitely stronger than he is as a "zero".
Zenkichi is a way cooler character than Araragi is.
>>116933989
General consensus is that you only need to read up to and including the Minus arc (Ch 54+), after reading that, if you aren't interested anymore dont force yourself to read it
>>116933771
That's not what happens in Toriko.
>>116933876
It isn't the one that's moving, we are. It's like placing an apple on a table and walking away from it.
However, if the power depends on how we perceive it, then we will get what you are describing.
>>116933814
The ability to pull out my dick and transform it into any sword of legend. The condition for this ability is that I have to stay aroused the entire time it's out or else the sword shrinks and can be shattered in its neutered state. It'll take a week for it to regrow if ever it breaks due to this.The powered-up ability is dual wield
>>116934138
>Using Toriko as a reference
>>116934192
A sword in that area significantly limits the amount of techniques that you could do with it.
>>116934195
Toriko is very logic.
>>116928465
The power of controlling sound. Using sound waves as force, able to mimic, nullify, and intensify sounds, and using sounds for hypnosis.
>>116934304
not when a monkey makes a fucking mountain skip around the world
>>116934112
>What kind of guy would deliberately remove any semblance of "MC status" from himself and others. I know that evens the playing field a bit but the actual MC are still infinitely stronger than he is as a "zero".
If i recall right, it's because being an MC would bound him to a certain future, whereas being a zero would effectively give them the freedom to do whatever, because the author wouldn't care about what happens to the "zero"
The power to turn white people black.
>>116934464
I get that but even without her MC status, Medaka is still pretty much going to destroy Zenkichi. I would expect heroic determination to be a part and parcel of the "MC package"
>>116930011
The Nicholas Cage one? Also you just gave me flashbacks to early 2000s B-movies, I just remembered Clockstoppers. Fun movie.
>>116934112
>As to the other thing.
>There's a shit ton of stuff that gets brought up that I didn't mention. I just thought of Medaka and picked three from her but Zenkichi himself has way more stuff about him that makes him a more interesting topic to talk about.
>What kind of guy would deliberately remove any semblance of "MC status" from himself and others. I know that evens the playing field a bit but the actual MC are still infinitely stronger than he is as a "zero".
>Zenkichi is a way cooler character than Araragi is.
The amount of bullshit they survive, even after "devil style" is only really justified by narrative causality. Hell, Medaka's entire existence as a superhuman is a result of her being the main character of a Shonen manga. Hitoyoshi didn't get rid of "MC status," he got rid of the convenient plot twists and whatnot that the author saw fit to remove from the story, and the others remained.
That aside, I haven't read Bakemonogatari but Zenkichi is one of the coolest and most likeable characters I've ever seen. The times when he tells Medaka "don't forget to care about yourself" more than earned him that.
I'd actually say that he is, in a certain sense, the strongest character in the story. Not because he beat Medaka or anything like that, but because he has the guts to chase after her and the ability to keep up with her in spite of lacking superpowers. He's an all-around normal guy who fits the word "normal" like a glove fits a shark's fin.
>>116933989
Am I the only one who really liked the Flask Plan/13 Party Arc? I didn't think it was "awful" at all; it was what made me fall in love with the series. The Minus Arc was better, but it couldn't live up to the hype and didn't exceed my expectations in the same way the fight to destroy the flask plan did.
The power to be the protagonist
The power to overwrite my consciousness onto others matrix style.
>>116934727
THE DEVIL STYLE HAS FAILED US
Also I know what you're getting at with saying Zenkichi is the strongest and I agree but I gotta defend my boy Dj Fresh.
Iihiko would wreck everyone's shit. They say McGuyver can solve all problems with a rubber band, some string and some glue? Shishime only needs the rubber band.
Also if you enjoyed Medaka, you'd more than likely enjoy Monogatari.
>>116934893
>Doesn't want to be ultimate side character Kumogawa Misogi instead of Protagonist
>Doesn't enjoy being the most popular character to the extent he gets his own spin-off to hold both Protagonist and Side Character titles, giving him the advantages of both
The power to make other people come up with ideas for powers so I don't have to do it.
The power to have and switch between any powers already mentioned in this thread.
This guy is my second favorite character of any manga in general. It's more of what he represents and not just how based he was the entire time. The villain who gets beaten every time and no matter what he does, he always gets thrown to the ground. He's satire of that trope and I'm happy someone created a character like him.
sadly the minus arc will never ever ever be animated
The ability to create and destroy energy.
The power to piss cum. I'd have giant cum filled balls that would slosh when I walk and the cum would ooze out in a thick stream when I piss. I could set up traps that cause my enemies to slip in a pool of my cum, then when they're down I hop out and cum all over them. They'll be too slippery to move and will have no choice but to surrender.
>>116934907
Yeah, I'm planning to watch the anime, since it seems like they're continuing to adapt it, unlike with Medaka Box.
About the "strongest" thing, Zenkichi is strong in a different sense, although I think it's a more real form of strength than "look at me, I can beat people up." At one point Medaka tells Kumagawa, "It's not those who win that are strong, it's those who lose and keep going that are strong" (or something similar). The series really seems to support that idea, and Zenkichi is a large part of the reason it does.
And as for the Freshmaker, I actually found him underwhelming after Kumagawa and Anshin'in. Not that he wasn't awesome. This thread has led me to appreciate him a little more, though. I haven't read/watched a whole lot of Shonen so I appreciated Medaka Box more for the "real world" philosophy and character interaction than for the genre critiques that supposedly exist. But the idea that Iihiko represents the reader makes a certain amount of sense and I'm sure when I reread this I'll consider that possibility.
>>116935086
Honestly, I liked him because he laughs in the face of that fate and enjoys living life how he pleases, flipping off the world in glorious fashion. He's a shitty bastard - even when he becomes a "good guy" he does good by being a shitty bastard - but he's a shitty bastard with all his heart.
The ability to finally become the little girl.
>>116934372
wait when the fuck did this happen?
>>116934907
They aren't too similar though; the former disassembles shonen and the latter disassembles harems
>>116935275
most recent chapter
>>116935242
>The ability to finally become the little girl and get fucked.
>>116935212
Damn, the Freshmaker is the best name.
Anyway, slightly off-topic.
>About the "strongest" thing, Zenkichi is strong in a different sense
Yeah nah dude. I did actually understand your point and why Zenkichi is strong. I just still gotta give Mentos his props for being the best character in the series.
>And as for the Freshmaker, I actually found him underwhelming after Kumagawa and Anshin'in
That's a fine opinion to have. He does appear in the last two arcs and his impact isn't that massive. He's just a character type that appeals to me, in the way Anshin'in does.
I was never a huge fan of Kumogawa but there's a little respect there so it's not a dislike.
>>116935305
Oh yeah I know that. I'm just more saying that if you like Medaka and read through all of it then you'll be mentally prepared for the lots of wordplay, dialogue, references etc that you get in a Nisio work like Monogatari.
The ability to turn a beta mc into an alpha. Finally my ship will set sail.
>>116935212
basically in order to fully appreciate medaka box you need to understand it is essentially what is referred to a "reconstruction" of the shonen genre where it takes all the shitty tropes, ALL OF THEM and proceeds to format them in a way where it applies to the modern audience in a way that still makes them completely relevant and fun.
you find the more shonen you have read the more you actually like this series.
>>116928465
The ability to turn completely invisible whenever you're screaming at the top of your lungs.
>>116935462
Why do you want that?
>>116935383
I'm curious, since both Mentos and Anshin'in appeal to you but Kumagawa doesn't, is it because of their power? I mean, Fresh and Anshin'in are both insanely powerful whereas Kumagawa nearly always loses.
>>116935464
But I already appreciate Medaka Box more than nearly every anime I've watched and nearly every manga I've read, even without that. There's a lot more to the series than just deconstruction/reconstruction of the genre. And I could sort of tell that's what it was doing anyways - there's some overlap between the tropes it plays with and the ones I'm familiar with, and it definitely has a sense of "tearing something down, but doing it because you love it."
Medaka's ass is fucking otherworldly.
I don't like her on a personal level but I wouldn't mind plowing it
>People still remembers Medaka Box
I-I love you all.
>>116935600
I'm the kind of guy that doesn't like main characters in general. I'm the kind of guy that enjoys characters who are just crazy awesome and they know they are.
Which is usually the domain of minor characters and people too cool to live.
Oddly enough even with that bias. I will always enjoy characters who only punch and kick shit as their only means of attacking. If everyone else in a show is doing like fancy magic and using guns, then I'm always going to support the dumbass going into battle with their fists.
It's the one thing I enjoy enough that will make me ignore my dislike for main characters.
For example. Touma Kamijo from Index solves every single problem by talking and punching shit. I can respect that
>>116935642
I get your point
>>116935698
>>116935698
How can anyone forget the funnest manga /a/ has ever read?
>>116935740
Interesting - but Anshin'in certainly does far more than "only punch and kick shit," and she felt like a main character to me, even if she wasn't really a protagonist.
I too respect Touma for solving problems by talking and punching stuff. It's a very simple way of life, and while simple isn't always best, sometimes it works quite well.
I'd say I like characters who are just crazy awesome as well, but I'd say that's the reason I like Kumagawa so much. He's fucking nuts (or should I say screws instead?). Other than that I tend to like characters that I see as "good" or admirable people, characters that grow or exhibit a capacity to grow, and characters that are imperfect, make mistakes, and act a little bit wrong or stupid even in spite of all that. I suppose that's why I stuck with this series instead of rejecting Medaka as a boring Mary Sue - even if she's nearly perfect, she's a decent person, and from nearly the beginning there were hints she wasn't as perfect as she seemed.
>>116935698
>implying people could forget the greatness that is this series.
literally the only reason why it never hit bestseller lists is because most manga readers are kiddies that cannot comprehend what the shit is in the series so they spout "words words words" and stupid crap of that nature.
>>116935740
In other words you're a hipster, like me
l really miss Medaka Box, it was such a good ride and the threads were fun, the meta never let the threads become useless imagedumps and there was always a good level of discussion .
The power to make the childhood friend win in every anime that I watch.
Why sales were not good?...just why...
>>116935916
This is only tangentially related, but the modified game of Sevens was so incredibly text-heavy that I skimmed most of it, and I still think the explanation of the rules is bullshit. Maybe it was due to the way it was translated, but the rules were exactly the same before and after Kumagawa changed them.
>>116935959
Oh come on, I love Medaka Box, but there's no reason to be ass-pained about the people who don't like it. There's nothing inherently wrong with preferring a text-light story with more action (for example).
>>116936126
Japan? Taste? Shit?
>>116936126
read:
>>116935959
like i said, its because most manga readers like stupid crap like naruto and SnK so thats essentially why.
Literally because it had no reason to fall into the cancer fanbase and because it was a shonen most of the other groups who would normally read it went full on hipster and turned their noses away because of sheer relentless faggotry.
>>116935947
Yeah nah see. That's where the opposites come in. Anshin'in is the Crazy Awesome type I like and she's well aware how awesome she is.
I also don't personally think she's a main character but that's always going to be up for debate since then you have to argue whether her role as the force behind most of the events makes her main or antagonistic.
I don't like Kumogawa that much because I'm not a huge fan of watching over-powered people getting beaten down. If you have power then you should be as flashy and fresh as possible with it.
He just used it too pragmatically which is fine and 100% understandable but it's not my cup of tea.
As for the "good" thing. I'm not a huge morality person primarily. Let's us a certain onmyoji for example.
Their major scene is literally just wrecking a motherfucker while spouting philosophy and it is amazing. That's a situation where I'd look further into morality. Otherwise I just think if you can be crazy awesome, that's morality enough.
>>116936002
Not intentionally hipster but I've never had any compunctions about being an Elitist. It wasn't something I chose to be but it's how it happened
>>116936208
Why did you guys read it?
I read it cause I saw Medaka's tits and Mukae's speech
By the way Mukae is olev, best girl with Ajimu in 2nd and Naze in 3rd
If someone says something I can make that sentence become literal
I.E. "That meal sure was good, my stomach's about ready to burst!" -> Their stomach ruptures and their intestines pop out like streamers
>>116936265
I read it because it was legitimately good.
>>116936265
I read it because I saw the author's name was attached to it and figured he couldn't bottle lightning twice and I was wrong.
>>116935916
3rd season when?
>>116936208
Does this manga is lacking something?
>battles
>complex powers
>a little romance
>An interesting moral
>MC doesn't always win
>Written by Nishio
Exactly what went wrong?
>>116936424
People heard "Shonen" and dropped it. They assumed a battle shonen would be shit so they never read it
>Medaka was good
Glad we stopped with the "it's shit but l read it" thing, don't even understand why we even did that.
The power to shitpost on the internet.While naked and feminine.
>>116936424
basically the reason is that because it actually has a plot thats not ADD riddled bullshit or decent stuff forever on hiatus shonenfags won't touch it with a ten foot pole, and because of the shonen tag people who like other genres will not touch it with a ten foot pole no matter how good it is.
>>116928465
the power to make anyone drunk or sober with just a thought. including all levels of possible intoxication, as well as biological side effects (such as hangovers when sobering up or the need to pee)... a higher level of affect would be to grant any form of intoxication including that from illegal narcotics use.
I think the ability to make yourself or others drunk/high with a thought would be a fun power.
>>116936483
oh and i forgot, it has women so that kills it for half the people who read manga to begin with and scares the fujo away like the disgusting filth they are.
The power to perfectly accomplish anything I set out to do
>>116936548
You could be like the Ghost in the Shell's MC, drink all you want and never get drunk. Although I don't understand why anyone would do that shit.
>>116936234
>I also don't personally think she's a main character but that's always going to be up for debate since then you have to argue whether her role as the force behind most of the events makes her main or antagonistic.
I don't think her being an antagonist prevents her from being a "main character," but maybe you mean something more along the lines of what I'd call "main protagonist."
Also, to defend Kumagawa a little, even though I don't even intend this to convince you to like him, I think he's well aware how awesome he is, in a certain sense at least. Pic related - no matter how often he fails he can't really be kept down because he does what he wants. It's more of a philosophical awesomeness than a physical awesomeness, if that makes any sense, so it seems like it's different than what appeals to you.
And characters I like don't have to be good people, it's just that I tend to like characters like that. I liked Kumagawa when he was a villain, too - in fact, his best moment in the entire series to me is still probably the time when he says to Medaka, "I was the victim" after forcing Hitoyoshi to sacrifice himself. What a glorious bastard - even in defeat he manages to strike his enemies where it hurts most, and that's that "philosophical awesomeness" that I love about him.
I'm not the "you're a hipster" person, but in the spirit of appreciating even your enemies I thought I'd add that I'm almost completely the opposite of an elitist, even if I often find myself enjoying stories that self-proclaimed elitists love. Mars of Destruction does tend to crush any hopes I have of claiming to be completely non-elitist, though.
>>116936626
because people like the flavor of booze.
The power to bring to truth any idioms.
>The walls have ears
walls literally fucking grow ears
>It's raining cats and dogs.
there's cats and dogs falling.
No idioms created after 1980
>>116936604
What if you plan to do something imperfectly way?.
