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Imagine this, friends:

You find yourself suddenly stuck in the world of Elder Tales with no means of escape or idea as to how it happened. All food tastes like cardboard, all drinks are basically flat water and you don't even have the ability to sate whatever lust you might be carrying around with you. You are miserable, cut off from almost everyone you have ever known and loved and you have nothing but the knowledge that you can do exactly jack-shit about it.

But then you see the sandwich.

Unlike everything else in this world, you can smell the aroma of the warm condiments, you can feel the crispness of the fresh vegetables and the juicy drippings of the tender meat, the gentle crunch of the freshly baked bread, letting you feel comfort that until the exact moment you saw it you had no reason to think was not lost to you forever.

And there is only one.

And for all you know there will ever only be one.

What do you do?
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>>116001592
I eat the fucking thing.
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>>116001678
/thread
tetra is best girl :^)
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>>116001678
nuff said thread closed
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Use the sandwich to ingratiate myself to those in power in exchange for political favors
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Chop it up into as many tiny pieces as possible and distribute them, then raise an army to track down and capture whoever made it
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Find the Dwarf and trade sandwich for some awesome equipment
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>>116001592
>you don't even have the ability to sate whatever lust you might be carrying around with you
Why not?
I can jerk off to my imagination.
And they do have genitals, Akatsuki was strongly implied to have had a dick when she was a man.

Also, about food. Do fruit and stuff still taste? No one has to prepare apples.
I'd definitely just have been eating edible ingredients separately for the most part.
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>>116001592
But ingredients were explicitly stated to have taste. And besides it was bullshit how no chef bothered trying manual cooking when they were stuck in the fucking game. That shit would be discovered within days but I suppose I can let it slip because japs.
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>>116002311

>Dwarf

That looks nothing like a dwarf
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I want to be Tetra
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>>116001592
I don't remember Misa being so cute, she seemed pretty serious
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>>116003240
dont we all?
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Find Tetra and share it with him in exchange for sexual favors
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>>116003391

>him
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>>116001592
>But then you see the sandwich.
>What do you do?

What fucking else?
Soak it with all your joy and love.
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Why the hell are sandwiches so powerful in MMOs
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>>116002626
female dwarfs look different.
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>>116002626
Everyone knows dwarves don't like outsiders to see their women because they're so cute
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>>116003391
I don't think you need to give him the sandwich to get sexual favors.
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>>116001592
Who cares about a stupid sandwich, I go and butcher some goblins.
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>>116001592
Throw the sandwich on the gronund and squish it in the dirst with my boot, because giving people unnecessary desires brings only cancer. then go back running in the forest killing everything I met, player or mob.
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>>116001592
Remember that I'm now an immortal super-powered adorable spear loli and immediately stop giving any fucks.
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>>116007192
>spear
Jobber weapon
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I marathoned the first season yesterday and just caught up with the second season.
How and why in the fuck did I drop this while it was airing last year? Am I retarded? Because it was seriously fun as hell and all the characters are just great. Rundelhaus and Isuzu are the best.
>>116006367
>him
Okay I think I saw this coming.
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>>116007192
>spear
But which class?
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So like how many of the "girls" in the Elder tale population are actually girls?
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>>116001592
Give it to Misa and experience her lavish praise
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>>116007522
Target audience
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>>116007522
30% of players are female.
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>>116007522
MMOs are pretty fucking mainstream nowadays. You'd be surprised how many chicks are getting into them these days.

That said, it still leans towards being predominantly dicks. I'd say it's a good 60-40 or 70-30 M to F ratio.
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>>116007522
Everyone who crossplayed and couldn't get their hands on the shapeshift potion. Seeing how those things are apparently REALLY rare... I'd say about twenty percent of the girls? It's a wild guess.

>>116007491
There's actually a big bunch of classes that can use spears. Every physical attack class, plus druids.
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Take sandwich to the harem guild

Exchange sandwich for harem
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>>116007645
I imagine it must've sucked for some guys. Playing as a girl doesn't necessarily mean they get off on crossplaying or they genuinely want to have vaginas.

Personally, I usually create female avatars in MMOs because if I'm gonna stare at a screen for hours at end and play dressup with a character, it might as well be a cute girl. And this is actually a rather common sentiment among alot of male players.

I wonder how some of these kind of players felt went they realized they were doomed to be stuck as cute girls in Elder Tale.
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>>116007763
>not wanting to be a girl
>not genuinely wanting to have a vagina
gay
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>>116007763
I normally make female characters but have no particular desire to trade my dick in for tits and menstruation
But I don't think I'd be that put out by it if it happened, especially if it came with an eternally youthful, attractive, super powerful magical immortal body in perfect health.

Anyone that would complain about that is retarded
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>>116007550
What's the story behind this card?
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>>116007763
>doomed to be stuck as cute girls
>to be stuck as cute girls
>doomed
Nigga are you serious? How can you even be on /a/ without wanting to be a cute little girl?
>Akatsuki's voice was still the same when she was a man
Wait nevermind, now the idea started to sound a little scary.
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>>116007763
So does Elder Tale tackle mental breakdowns or psychological deterioration due to being stuck in another gender's body?

I guess some players might enjoy it, but like Akatsuki at the beginning, alot of players didn't seem to enjoy having an entirely different body to what they used to have and unlike Akatsuki, they don't have the luxury of that body readjustment potion.

>>116007835
Not that anon, but I love my dick and not having to wait in front of a line whenever I need to go to a restroom.
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>>116007671

Are you sure that's a good idea?
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>>116007550
please tell me that is a card for one free shoulder rub from misa
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>>116007928
I just want the sexual fox
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>>116007882
She gives it to DDD members if they've been good. The very first bit of episode 1 at the tug of war has them yell about it
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>>116007887
Akatsuki didn't have the luxury of that body readjustment potion either. She just had connections with one guy who had it.
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>>116007883
Well if Tetra's any indication it probably changes to something more suitable as time goes on.
That or he was a really girly sounding dude.
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I have 2 female characters I use when playing my mmorpg but because of Log Horizon. I made a new character of a tall dark skinned male elf incase I get in a situation where I get stuck like that. Then I can savor all the delicious female NPCs.
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>>116007883
It changes over time to match your new body
Presumably your face does too, because that changed to be more in line with reality as well.

There must have been some really strange females walking around for the first couple weeks
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>>116007934

It's for a free 'favor' so yeah I guess you could ask her for a shoulder rub
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>>116007934
It's for her sexual services
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>>116007970

>not being a female character and getting the female NPCs anyway

Pleb
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>>116007883
Does Post-Apocalypse Elder Tale emulate the typical biological actions of a certain gender's body?

Because while I'm all for being transformed into a Spell Blasting Loli, if it comes with menstruation and having to wait in line for female restrooms. I might reconsider.
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>>116007990
>because that changed to be more in line with reality as well.
what?
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>>116007951

Again, are you sure that's a good idea?
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>>116008057
Your in game face was changed to look like your real life face.
Shiroe's character didn't have evil spooky eyes, and Naotsugu had a scar that vanished.

I only just started reading the LNs, so all the stuff they mention at the beginning is still fresh in my mind
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>>116008135
Come on, Mamare, that really was not needed
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>>116007934
You would only ask for a shoulder rub?
I'd ask her to make me coffee
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>>116008111
>>116007928

Is wrong to be jealous of him?
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>>116002311
>dwarf female
>doesnt have a beard
Fucking dropped.
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>>116008227
no thanks, i don't want diabeetus
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>>116008285
>doesnt have a beard
>is wearing a mask that completely covers the lower half of her face
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>>116008285
Maybe she cuts it
And wears the bandana thing to hide the stubble
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>>116008227
I'd ask her to step on me
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>>116007887
>loving dick as a man
faggot
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>>116008277

It is impossible to not be jealous of the man
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>>116007963
Somehow, this doesn't seem to fit Misa. She looks like the stern type of leader/teacher
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TETRA BEST GIRL
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>>116008897
Stop impersonating Timber.
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>>116007442
Yes and no. Tetra is just one of the people that was playing a female character when everyone got stuck. Tetra is female, pretty much the opposite situation as Akatsuki was in, except they're okay with it AFAIK.
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>>116007522
It's implied that "crossplay" was rare, but I have to imagine there are at least a few dozen or few hundred stuck that way out of the 40k on the Yamato server.

I've seen from multiple sources that crossplay is implied to be rare in Japan for MMOs, but fuck if I can verify that. Certainly in something like TERA Online where Elin are by far the most common race, 98% of them you fucking know are really guys.
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>>116010123
I think it's more the case of, in the process of exploring the concept, the Mamare just decided to focus on a couple of characters like Akatsuki (briefly) and Tetra, and whether or not there are many more like them is just up to the imagination of the viewer, and doesn't really matter one way or the other.
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>>116010123
Well, crossplay does get hindered by the voice-chat feature.
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>>116010202

Not all of the design changes are good, but Nazuna looks worlds better in S2. Still not LN/Manga good, but good.

Pic unrelated besides dropping some more fluff in here
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Split it between the two best girls in exchange for threesome
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>>116010614
>not tetra
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>>116010760

He said best GIRLS
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>>116010943
i dont see your point
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>>116010994

Tetra a dude, dude.
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>>116010760
Tetra an annoying guy
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>>116010312
The irony is, by 2018 or whenever, I bet you could rig up a fairly decent vocoder filter tuned to your voice if you really wanted to.
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>>116008818
Wasn't she a kindergarten teacher pre-apocalypse
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>Girls being stuck in a Guy's body.

This is my fetish. Also, gender fixing potions aren't as rare as Shiroe made them out to be.

You know that gay asshole who was the first major arc villain in Soujirou's WWB spinoff manga?

She was really a cute little girl IRL. And now she has the appearance in-game to match too.
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>>116011352
That explains why she's so obsessed with Souji.
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>>116010760
>she
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>>116011352
>Also, gender fixing potions aren't as rare as Shiroe made them out to be.
They're limited promotional items or something of the sort.
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>>116011519
So, like party hats in RuneScape?
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>>116011352

Somehow that seems more gay but I'm not sure how
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>>116011352
>Her Friends / Party Members are the same assholes who attempted to rape Souji's harem in the earlier chapters

They were horny bastards. Jesus, they must rape Magus every night now.
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>>116011555
Sorta, but more widespread.
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>>116011587
They are boob lovers. I don't see boobs on Tomoko er, I mean Magus.

They probably treat her as a daughteru or some shit.
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>>116007763
> Become a cute girl.
> Go into a bath with other cute girls.
> Realize none of this excites you anymore.
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>>116011587

They could just snag a couple of transformation potions and turn themselves into Soujirou clones
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>>116011656
She still have a pussy.
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>>116011703

That's stupid

What would she do with two fake Soujis?
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>>116011739
It's not about what ould she do. It's about what they would do to her.

Mind break.
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Call up Shiroue and trade it for his Jew Gold
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>>116011352
All I really got from her was that she was a less edgy and slutty Nureha.
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>>116011866
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Give it to the girls who desperately needs a fucking sandwich holy shit
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>>116012515

I don't think sandwiches are going to do much for her loli body
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>>116013336
She needs a steady diet of rich foods, and a good dicking to place a baby in her womb.
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>>116013336
Nothing healthier than a diet of nothing but sandwiches. Helps you grow big, strong, bald and russian.
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>>116013570

Does her character model even have sex characteristics?

Only evidence I've seen in the jiggle from characters who have breasts
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>>116013666
If someone made a Leonardo character, it's not hard to believe someone would make a Heavy character
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Make a harem sandwich
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>>116013699
It's been established that adventurers can get pregnant, that implies sexual characteristics pretty heavily
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>>116013744
But if you already have a harem and, for discussions sake, you aren't mildly psychopathic why do you need a sandwich?
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>>116013763

That's kind of a pretty big deal to introduce without (to the best of my knowledge) going into specifics.

Does that mean there's menstruation and ovulation? Are stats effected by this?

Do female characters get the 'Bleeding' status effect for a week out of every month or can it be treated like a normal wound?

The questions are endless!
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>>116008396
well, that happens when you play a male character to not be treated differently because you are a girl, which is then found by a couple males playing as females.
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>>116013938

>Do female characters get the 'Bleeding' status effect for a week out of every month or can it be treated like a normal wound?

Christ it would suck to be a Healer if this is the case
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They better have BC or Abortion clinics in the Database or else someone's going to have to take responsibility. I'd be scared to give birth in an MMO. Unless they have daycares, being a mom would be a shitty gaming experience.
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>>116013938
yes, no, no, healing magic could probably reduce the pain/difficulty of it
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>>116014063

>character constantly leaking blood for a week

>has no effect on stats

I call shenanigans
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>>116014144

Stop calling me

I'm on my period
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>>116014144
>constantly leaking blood

>when their HP numbers in the hundreds of thousands and they're immortal heroes

>affecting them notably

You're just being silly
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>>116014053
Why would it even matter? The kid will just respawn if anything happens, who cares?
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>>116014337
But would a kid born in ET count as adventurer?
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>>116014259
>>116014144

Still could make for a funny scene
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>>116014337
Unless all newborns are landers
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>>116014337


Oh God

If you abort the fetus, does it respawn in the Cathedral?
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Is second season still the trench of pandering and "look at these retards who don't know how MMOs much less video games work at all"?
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>>116014421

Why did you make me think of such things
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>>116014421
I doubt the child already gets the adventure status
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>>116014421
>fetus appears
>falls in the holy water
Free baptism!
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>>116014421
>abort fetus
>it respawns in the cathedral
>dies again cause it's not in a womb
>cathedral rapidly fills with expanding mound of fetal gore
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>>116014501

>implying the child of an adventurer would be a lander
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>>116014546
>the fetus is too weak to stay alive
>it dies again
>it respawns
>the cycle continues
>>116014586
FUCK
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>>116014596
Makes more sense than otherwise
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G-d help me, /a/, I want to rape Tetra. Am I a bad person?
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>>116014421

>Be necromancer

>stake out Cathedral

>watch mounds of fetus corpses pile up after they die repeatedly

>use magic to convert them to my minions

>attack irresponsible adventurers with an army comrpised of the corpses of their unborn children
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>>116014658
No, Tetra was made for rape
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>>116014658
yes, Tetra is for consensual love making only
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>>116014658
no you are just a gay
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>>116014658

>G-d

Jews like tetra?
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>>116014658
Men can't be raped so this doesn't even make sense.
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>>116014684
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>>116014684
>>116014632
>>116014608
>>116014586
>>116014546
>>116014421

This is some Lovecraft shit right here
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>two adventurers have a kid
>its turns out to be a lander
>have to watch as their children become old and die while they remain
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>>116014586
>>116014684
The corpse would explode into bubbles before that happens, though. Damn sensible writers ruining our horrifying fantasies.
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Wait, are adventurers truly immortal?

can't die, not even of age?

That's some horrifying shit right there
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>>116014884
On the bright side, we could break out into impromptu renditions of "Princes of the Universe".
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>>116014883
Even so, fetuses constantly dying and respawning is still pretty horrifying, even without the mounds of corpses.
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>>116014884
maybe they just age really slowly

Like, at the rate of the real world, which has had 10 years pass for nearly 300 years in universe.

I hope they do anyway, true immortality is not something I wish upon anyone
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>>116014501
It should.
>Welcome new player!
>gets teleported to tutorial area immediately on birth
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Guys if I kill myself will I come back to life in the Log Horizon world as an adventurer and have the chance to have sex with best girl Tetra?
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>>116015695
you wont know unless you try
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>>116014684
Y'all need Jesus
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>>116015695
Watch out, you might enter Gensokyo instead.
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>>116014377
A SHIT
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>>116015729
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>>116014991

Instead of Capital punishment if you commit crimes you just get chained up in the Cathedral to watch the constant cavalcade of the same fetuses dying over and over and over
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>>116015835

"Caught stealing again, eh? That's it! Off to the Fetus pile with you!"

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
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>>116015797
>>116015695

Wait is that the reason you wake up in Elder Tales?

Because you an hero?
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>>116015835
what would happen if they installed a death trap at the spawn point in the cathedral?
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>>116016029
>"the catastrophe" was actually a mass suicide pact
Oh boy. They probably outlawed MMOs in their world after that.
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>>116016042

Would have to be one hell of a powerful trap to take out the upper-crust players.

Or hell even the mid-tier ones.

To non-noobs it would just be annoying and then they'd dismantle it, track down who set it and strap them to the alter so that fetuses would respawn on their face or something
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>>116016192

there's a pic of a powerful trap right here>>116014658
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>>116016381

You can only fit so many adventurer into one trap
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>>116016381
Level 93 Trap
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>>116014883
What about as more and more fetuses become aborted?

Hell, what about regular miscarriages?
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If Akatsuki had a complex about her height why didn't she give herself a taller body when she reset her avatar?

Actually how would resetting and customizing your avatar work post Apocalypse anyways? Presumably before there were just a bunch of sliders and options but now that Elder Tale is 100% realistic how would that work?
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>>116016701
Because she wanted a body that fit her real body more closely, because having a body that's different from your real one takes a long time to get properly used to.
Shiroe mentioned that even with a few centimeters, it felt really weird being taller, let alone Akatsuki, whose character is described as being about 30cm taller than her real self.
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>>116016701
Because it's awkward to suddenly walk in a bigger body or something. She didn't think too much about it probably and just wanted to be a girl again.
And adventurers still have access to the UI somehow. It's magic.
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>>116001592
it's a fucking trap
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I just received LH8 and its drama CD, was it ripped already?
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Best girl.
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>>116016632
I wish i was a cute girl
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>>116011555
>tfw you will never have a blue phat in the Database

I have to wonder what it'd be like.
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>>116017309

Oops wrong picture
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>>116017582
You mean you wish you were a cute girl, because grammatically--
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>>116017582
i wish i was a cute
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>>116017309
>>116017650
You landers keep messing up
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>>116017672
No bully ;_;
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Threadly what character would you make in Database post
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>>116017771

Sluts can't be best girls

It's like a law or something
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>>116017878
One of those Wolf guys as a Monk. Because your own fists are the manliest weapon you can have.
And the subclass... probably a blacksmith. They're always useful.
>>116018074
>Marielle
>slut
Wow fuck you.
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>>116018074
>Marielle
>slut
She's clearly dedicated to the meaty combo
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>She will never get a hug
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>>116017878
Galo Dorf Monk named Tike Myson
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>>116017878
Human or Wolf-tail Guardian. No idea what I'd make my subclass, probably Pathfinder like Naotsugu.
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>>116017878
I'd obviously play a Half-Alv Kannagi-Miko-Shrinemaiden-Fujo, with the Vampire subclass.
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Why is Akatsuki so useless?
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>>116017878
Race of ruin monk, nudist, with a sigilmaker friend to tattoo me up.
All the burst damage.
His name would be Clas Ganon and he would we be terrible in actual encounters.
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>>116018929
Too busy whining about being a scrub instead of gitting gud
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>>116001727
obligatory >girl
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>>116018929
Didn't get good while the getting good was easy.
Now learning to play is actually difficult and no one wants to risk it.
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>>116018929

She has shit gear and sits around watching people train

Which might in fact be the most useless thing you can do in an MMO
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>full fucking episode about akatsuki suffering

why does she deserve this
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>>116017878
Same as PSO, PSU, PSP, PS0 and PSO2; pink-haired DFC elf. Followed by spamming Rafoie/Anga Jabroga/Shunka Shunran.
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>>116019133

Because:

>>116019080

>watching people train
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>>116019080
They aren't in an MMO anymore
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>>116001592
Toss it to the ground and vomit because I'm a vegetarian. Meat makes me physically ill.
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>>116019208
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>>116019080
No, the most useless would be dancing in the lobby and taking up server space.
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>>116019170
will akatsuki ever win the shiroebowl
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>>116019208
>vegetarian
Always remember.
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>>116018566
>You'll never mmorpger with her and she will never heal you
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>>116017878
Human Summoner Idol.

I want to be a qt necromancer.
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>>116019249
I hope not, her suffering is delicious. Hell I hope that Shiroe fucks Minori or the cake or both in front of her.
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>>116019245

That is equally useless, not more

Realistically anything you do in this game that doesn't give you XP, gear, cash or items you might as well spend masturbating because at least you get something from that
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>Tetra is a dude playing a chick

Come on.
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>>116019386
What about having fun?
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>>116019386
You hate having fun, right?
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>>116019431
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>>116019362

If you had a Nude hack you could be a Necromantic Naturist
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>>116019482
...

...

...yes?
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>>116017878
Dwarf Bard. Brewer subclass.
Proceed to destroy any kind of serious situation around me through music, large quantities of alcohol and all around joviality.
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>>116019499
Coming to think of it, since people now have undergarments instead of textures painted on their nether regions, shouldn't there be a lot of nudists running about?
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>>116017878
Human Guardian with War Priest subclass.

I'm always a class like that.
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>>116019509
>>116019482
this was bad
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>>116019431
>>116019462

Having fun in a game?

Are you some kind of freak?

You can't make me have fun!
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>>116017309
>>116017650
These two are best girls and my favorite.

Come at me.
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>>116019594
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>>116019562

Wait, they do?

When did that happen?

I thought the world of Elder Tales was sterile and sexless
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>>116018929
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you lander bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the obstacle course, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on PKers, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in instakill warfare and I'm the top assassin in the entire Log Horizon guild. You are nothing to me but just another explosion of bubbles. I will send you to the moon with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this server, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the databese? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of lander spies across Eastal and your friendlist is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, gobbo. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your memories. You'll be fucking mindbroken, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my first tool bar. Not only am I extensively trained in moe combat, but I have access to the support of the round table and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of Yamamoto you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit huge numbers all over you and you will drown in it. Your data's all gone, kiddo.
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>>116019622
deen why??
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>>116017878
Okay, get this: Race of Ritual Sorcerer. You get literally no HP, but just think of all the MP and magic shit you get.
10/10 glass cannon right there.
>>116019594
I can't come at you, friend, for I love both of them as well.
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>>116019721
What's wrong
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>>116019594
Kannami.
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>>116019721

Why what?
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>>116019749
Is that supposed to be a lot of mana?
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>>116019707
It's even funnier if you remember just how worthless Akatsuki is.
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>>116019825
It... it must be a mistake. Because that really isn't a lot.
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>>116019749

And then a level one kitten coughs on you and you die

Have fun with that
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>>116019825
That's almost 1.5 times his HP.
Considering what we saw, that's a lot.
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>>116019749
How much mana does Shiroe have
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>>116019707
>Yamamoto
It's Yamato.
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>>116019887
Not if I kill it first!
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>>116019721
It's a new character, dumbass. Same a Roe2

>>116019910
Around 16K.
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>>116019910
12088 at lvl 90.
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>>116019562
>>116019499
>>116019697
There is a nudist subclass, they actually get some decent buffs.
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>>116019939

And then you are known as the kitten killer and all of the cute girls hate you

What now?
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>>116019749
Maybe that's his base mana, he's just in town clothes.
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>>116019974
>only ~510 more MP than Shirou
Oh shit what are you doing, Roderick?
>>116020009
It can't be helped, I'll have to choose Tetra.
>>116020019
Good point.
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>>116019976

Then how come we never see any naked people

CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS!
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>>116019909
Considering his piss poor HP and Shiroe and other magicians having about the same MP that isn't alot.
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>>116019909
Still doesn't look impressive. Was this guy really undergeared?
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>>116019964
Wait, 13K.
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>>116017878
Spear-wielding Bard with a flying mount, a red sleeve or pauldron, and shit ton of song buffs.

Here comes the fucking snow.
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>>116020055
Their HP aren't that different either. Race perks probably don't matter too much.
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>>116019697
If you read the LN's it was implied that Demikas group up in Suskino were rounding up sex slaves.
Anime cut down on that subtext, but yeah everyone has working genitals.
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>>116020093
>>116020170
Maybe Roderick is just bad at video games and is too stupid to raise his max MP on levelups.
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Roderick is a trader, I bet he's just wearing equipment with high barter and craft skills and no other stats.
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>>116020093
>>116020077
If the rules of the trpg are at least similar to the ingame abilities, race of ritual have a bunch of long cool down [double a spells damage], [remove cooldown of one other ability], [name an ability, it now always does increased damage]
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>>116019976
Did I step into the wrong Horizon thread?
>>116019536
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>>116020093
Well all he does is sitting in his lab all day and doing SCIENCE.
I wouldn't expect him to be high on the combat stats.
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>>116020294
He still managed to get to max-level before the Apocalypse. But it probably comes from him not improving since then.
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>>116020279

Nah

The girls in Log Horizon aren't all filthy sluts
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>>116017878
Human Enchanter Idol so i can be cute
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>>116020093
A typical Race of Ritual spellcaster should probably have inverse values of Demikas' MP/HP here. So 4627 HP and 16385 MP.
That fucking HP would at least explain why no one wants to play one.
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