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Saber thread
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>>115026031
Fake Arturia Saber is Fake

She's got tits.
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>>115026140
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Saber > Saber
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>>115027182
Saber >>>> Any Saber clone
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>Breast

Get this disgusting abomination away from me. My real king has small breast with perky pink nipples.
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>>115027232

Art thou feeling regret for settling for an inferior Saber?
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>>115027269
Fuck off, Nero. You will never be a fraction of perfection as my glorious Arturia.
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>>115027269
>cute small breasts
>inferior
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>>115027309

Art thou mad plebian?
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>>115027346
Stay irrelevant, clone.
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>>115027135
why is nero so perfect?
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>Saber's gonna job like shit all through UBW
>The 16 year old high school kid is gonna come off way more competent
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>>115027346
My angel will always be relevant even a decade later with out a dedicated anime Fate. (Fuck you Deen shit doesn't count). Your clone will collect dust on two PSP games.
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>mfw this board will soon be filled with saber appreciation threads every day
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>>115027507
That yuro Saber faggot makes them almost everyday.
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>>115027507
You mean Rin.
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>>115027570
>posting worst typemoon
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>>115027507
I actually want Lancer's threads everyday to laugh at his luck
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>>115027638
I want Lancer threads everyday, because he is the best servant and a total bro.
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>>115027595
But I'm posting best Type Moon though?
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>>115027675
Yeah, Archer is loved by many.
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>>115027675
yeah archer is the best
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>>115027667
Every Lancer thread would have to end with someone posting a gif/webm of one of his many hilarious deaths.
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>>115027734
No! Rin!
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Best king
Best servant
Best T-M
Best girl
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>>115027675
>>115027570

Yeah, Rin is the best.
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>>115027218
Bur that's a Ruler you have there..
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Suit Seibah best Seibah
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>>115027797
>Best T-M
>Best girl

But that's not Arcueid.
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>>115027797
>her country falls during her reign
>best king

hohohohohoho
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>>115027797
>worst king
>useless servant
>popularfag typemoon
>futa, not even a girl
>worst saber
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>>115026031
3 different sabers all look the same no originality GG typemoon

did someone make the pc vn have the sprites from ufotable psp verision yet?
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>>115027767
>Expecting Saberfags to have good taste
>Ever
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Slut Seibah best Seibah
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>>115027850
She was the best king, even Lancelot said that
>>115027851
Rinfag, pls
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>>115027765
The Carnival Phantasm ones?
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>meme servants
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>>115027901
Okay, who tried to feed the naked retard yogurt on the futon again?
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>>115026031

Where the fuck is the original full size version of this pic?
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>>115027667
I'm down for a Lancer thread
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>>115027950
yeah because opinion of one of her knights is so objective

her subjects fucking hated her
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Is there a plebber waifu than Saber?
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>>115028220
asuka from eva
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>>115028220
You're mom
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>>115028220
Fuck YOU!
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>Rinfags and Saberfags will never stop hating each other

I just want to love both ;_;
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>>115028220
Nope. She's probably the only king in the world who could walk amongst her commoners and no-one would bat an eye. That's how pleb she is
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>>115027415
In the VN he didn't seem competent, just lucky and traced the right things at the right time. He could barely match Souichiro and his steel hard murder-fists.

Ufotable will do a good job with Shirou's fights, I hope. I really like seeing him struggle and win.
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>>115027901
I remember having nightmares about this scene

How horrifying
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>>115028472
>He could barely match Souichiro and his steel hard murder-fists

Same goes for Saber.
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>>115028505
She lacked ethics.
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>>115028505
He just got the jump on her, she didn't expect him to move in such a way (martial arts magic). I think it was commented if there was a re-match, Saber would annihilate him since she's already seen his one and only trick.
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>>115028438
Clone Wars are much worse. It's amazing how much Nero and Arturia fags hate each other.
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>>115028566
As always, Kotomine wins
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>>115027309

But she's Bi by choice. You had to be forced into it by Rin.
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>>115028438

But Rin herself was a Saberfag. She even got to do what Saberfags can only dream of.
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>>115028640
All that tells us is that Rin has terrible taste in women.
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>>115028653

That's not true. She goes after Rider as well.
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>>115028472
>In the VN he didn't seem competent, just lucky and traced the right things at the right time. He could barely match Souichiro and his steel hard murder-fists

Except in Sparks Liner High
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>>115028671
I add an addendum to my statement in light of your post.

"Rin has terrible taste in women...most of the time"
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>>115028566
Saberfags hate nerofags for watering down saber, nerofags have chips on their shoulder the size of russia to prove that an imitation can be better than the real thing. It'll only end when fate/extra is forgotten, which it mostly is already.
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>>115028472
>In the VN he didn't seem competent
You'll see how wrong you are once the UBW fights get animated.

Not to mention once the HF movies comes out.
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>>115028790
Caster is still best Extra though
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>>115028790
I don't think Fate/Extra is forgotten. Especially when CCC translation finishes in 2020, there will be much to talk about. Also, there are lot of Nero figurines coming.
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>>115028790
>which it mostly is already.

Shit is mentioned at least once every thread. Extra and CCC will never be forgotten, it's like if you hated Ataraxia or Tsukihime and thought "Eventually it'll be forgotten", but pieces of it will always remain in the forefront.
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>>115028842
>Caster is still best Extra
Not when Assassin is still around
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>>115028366
Young Saber made me remember. Why does no one try to summon Merlin?
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>>115028881

Because Merlin is still alive, but trapped in a tree.
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>>115028842
Wrong, archer is best with his 3rd biggest bust size in the type moon universe.
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Bitches need to not be going on about how Nero a shit because "She's stealing the screen time of real Saber, she's just an inferior model".

Urobuchi says she's way more of a Gilgamesh clone in terms of personality, and Nasu says she was designed to be a response to Alexander from Zero in terms of personality. She's a fourth type of tyrant, who Nasu admits "This is what Alex would probably be like if I was writing him" as he wanted to challenge it a bit. She's not a Saber clone at all aside from appearance, she's not watered down Saber, she's an entirely different shit from the start who they just slapped a similar appearance on for some reason.

Frankly it would be odd if you thought they personalities were the same at all, or that she's just diet Saber.
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>>115028881
>wanting to summon a servant whos noble phantasm power is give you a penis
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>Shirou gets raped every fight
>Gets pushed to the brink of death like 20 times
>Somehow manages to win with an asspull every time

>Servants are supposedly extremely powerful and quick
>Can't even kill a highschool student

Wait, people actually like this?
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>>115028968
Also in before people think I even like Nero.
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>>115028991
just like every chinese cartoons
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>>115028991
>Not liking seeing heroes overcome adversity
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>>115028907

Assuming that Anon meant summoning for whatever flavor of the Holy Grail War it is this week, being alive doesn't mean you can't be summoned.

Flatchested Saber was still alive when she was summoned for both the Fourth and Fifth HGW.
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>>115028991
>>Somehow manages to win with an asspull every time
How about you read the VN. Shirou dies 90% of the time in utterly hilarious ways. Pick the cowardly choice that seems like it'll keep you alive, some servant or illya will get pissed off and kill you for being a pansy on your way back home.
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>>115028907
>Because Merlin is still alive, but trapped in a tree.

Saying such a thing only proves that you don't know how the Throne works at all.
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>>115029037
>alive
she was dead
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>>115028991
This is exactly the secondary we were most afraid of. Both those questions are absolutely retarded if you had read the VN, or werent an impatient shitter who expects to be spoonfed every detail of the story immediately.
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>>115028220
>Pleb-tier: Asuka/Rei, Sakura from Naruto, Winry from FMA
>Subhuman tier: Misato, Saber
Nope
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>>115027135
What is different about the eyes?
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>>115029581
Buy a new pair of eyes m8
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>>115029581
The eyelashes and that she's not mad
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>>115028857
Translation? Explain further.
Official or fan?
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>>115028220
Even more pleb than Horo.
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>>115027848
How do you like the miniskirt?
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Gosh anon-kun you're such a loser
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>>115029255
>misato subhuman tier

Ritsukofag pls
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>>115029630
Fan translation. It's going slowly though.
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>>115028529
Too bad that there wouldn't be a rematch after Kuzuki beheaded her
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>>115028991
Cool story bro, but how about you read the VN?
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>>115028683
Against Alter Saber that just stood there gave him tips and let him recover.
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>>115029063
She was alive, barely, but alive. Was a special case because she made a deal with the Grail, hence why she couldn't go spirit form.

>>115029061
Isn't the Throne where heroes go to after they expire, and are removed from time and space entirely (to then serve as blueprints for the copies they create for the War)? How would one go there if he never died?
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>>115029771
>How would one go there if he never died?

Humanity will all die at some point, the Earth will die at some point, the entire point with how the Throne works as shown in UBW is that it's outside of time itself. It doesn't fucking matter if he's not dead yet, because if he ever dies or if humanity dies, if Notes happens, it doesn't matter how it happens, but if he ever dies then he's in the Throne now.

He will indeed die at some point, he is indeed already in the Throne, unless he made it to Avalon as well. The entire point with Archer's story is that it doesn't matter if he's not dead right now, the Throne is outside of time, as long as he died at some point he is now outside of time itself with the Throne. Thus he can be summoned in a paradox while he was still alive.
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>>115028865
I dont know what threads you've been going to, but those one off times i see extra mentioned, its just archer 90% of the time or gawain shitposting.
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SABER IS FUCKING NEO-TYPE-MOON LITTLE WESTERN PIECE OF BRITSHIT FUCK THAT UGLY DEGENERATE SCUM-WHORE AND FUCK ALL NEO-TYPE-MOON SECONDARY SHIT KIDS WHO CONTINUE TO SPAM THAT SHAMEFUL HEMORRHOID WOUND ON TYPE-MOON'S REPUTATION.

DUMB FUCKING SHITFUCKS FUCK YOU TO YOUR SECONDARY SHITHOLE.
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>>115030339
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>>115030339
Sup /jp/
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>>115028438
Rinfags are/were prior to this adaptation basically nonexistant though. We are a rare breed.
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>>115030403
/jp/ was the good part of /a/. Until moot ripped it out and threw it out to the dogs.
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>>115030620
>/jp/ was the good part of /a/
/jp/ was and will always be a different type of cancer
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>>115030613
>Rinfags are/were prior to this adaptation basically nonexistant
What?
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>>115030613

That's a joke. There's about equal numbers of Rin and Sakurafags judging from what I'd seen.
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>>115030613
I've been here for years, Rin always had a decent following, but something happened a few months before the anime was announced to be UBW. I'm not sure what really caused it aside from the Rin Appreciation Threads, but these days you can't go by without "Best girl, best everything, best everything ever. other girls can't compare, absolute perfection, Rin is the best of all time" these days. The odd part though is that it wasn't even caused by the adaption being announced as UBW, but it was egged on even further because of it until now it's even more of a thing.

There was a time when Saber was the most popular, but I think that stopped some years back. Either way though, Rin types weren't ever rare at all, but they weren't as outspoken as these days. There's a danger in being too outspoken that some have probably realized at this point. Even now I have that one guy's folder from when he posted the UBW patch, that has 700 Rin pics.
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>>115028881
Stuck in some crazy magic tree.
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>>115030825

I like Rin, but I can't understand how people can gloss over he faults. Her flaws are a large part of what make her interesting as a character. Same with Arturia and Sakura. They all have their dark sides, their secrets. That's what make them so interesting. If the Characters in Fate weren't half as interesting as they are I doubt it would be this popular.
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>>115030736
I don't know about that. To this day, I'm convinced that everyone who claims to be a Sakurafag actually does it to troll everyone else.
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Not sure this one was ever scanned
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>>115029849
You realize that not every famous person goes to the throne of heroes right?

And there are plenty of places that you could be trapped in order to get cut off from the throne, right?
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>>115028640
>>115027901
Is there a pc version that retains all the blood and violence but has no sex scenes?
I thought they were kind of retarded and just wanted to skip it, like the tentacle rape in muv luv
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>>115030825
I guess I'm lucky to like Taiga, no quarrels, no shitposting, a small circle of chill anons, I just hope it won't degenerate any time soon.
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Saber is shit.
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>>115028991
>anime only fags
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>>115027507
Why would that happen, she's irrelevant n UBW
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>>115031088
Kuzuki appreciation thread than
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>>115031130
>Saber goes up against Jackie Chan in a ladder factory
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>>115031008
Don't worry bro. Taiga has the best following. There's not a shit-lot of conflict within the group and it doesn't generally interfere with the main heroines discussion
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>>115031228
That's because there's a total of 3 taigafags
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>>115030924
People can like Sakura just fine, though I really enjoyed it more when mentioning her didn't cause a shitstorm or constant wormslut comments that makes normal discussion impossible.

Yes, such a time existed. She was just another Fate girl at one point without all the bullshit we've attached over the years. The most I can aim for is a more neutral outlook on all of this so that we can talk again normally, or just stop taking part in it entirely.

I'm not aiming for a place where everyone loves her, no one would want such a thing to begin with. The only thing to aim for is a world where we can just talk normally at times, and we understand the characters.
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>>115031275
Please, we're up to four now. We learnt that last time
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>>115029758
You mean the servant who explicitly is always in rage mode and can't hold back at all in a fight?
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>>115031333

We all know one of them was samefagging.
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>>115031310
All what you have just said gave me a boner... or maybe it was the picture
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>>115031378
Probably, gotta roar loud ya know
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>>115031201

Can I summon Jackie Chan as a servant and his noble phantasm would be a ladder factory reality marble in which he's holding a baby and wants no trouble?
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>>115031529
Anrimiteddo raddah wooks
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>>115031511
Shirou and Rin aren't classmates m8
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>>115031529
>Can I summon Jackie Chan as a servant and his noble phantasm would be a ladder factory reality marble in which he's holding a baby and wants no trouble?

Sure just give it a cool name and a chant to activate it.
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>>115030924
I'm not.
I like purple hair and I feel bad for her.
And I respect her for having borne all the horrible things they did to her superbly.

That's Saberfags I can't understand. At least based on zero.
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>>115031666

total not Satan understands. I might prefer Rin, but I can understand why people would prefer Sakura. The Tohsakas had good genes for making attractive girls.
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OHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>115031933
Lewd.
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>>115031952
Nonsense
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Go back to drawing Saber, tusia
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>>115031993

She really does like the pussy.
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>>115031578
That school has more than one classroom?
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>>115031933
OHOHOHOHOHO RIN TOHSAKA PLEASES MEN FROM OLD MANGA FOR GEMS
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>>115032119
This would require a contraception guardian from the future
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>>115032119

We know she's got a nice ass.

>>115032143

She wanted it.
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>>115032184
Who did she get her ass genes from?
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>>115032202
>DEENshit
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>>115032211

The Finnish Blood.

See Luvia.
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>>115032276
I was expecting you to say Tokiomi
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>>115032309

We never see his ass though do we?
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I've never seen a person actually make that facial expression before.

How does puffing your cheeks out tell the onlooker that you're mildly annoyed at how bashful they're making you feel?

Maybe the Japanese learned it from various blowfish.

If that's true, then that face doesn't convey the above at all when it's clear the Japanese have confused an obvious trait of self-defense as a shy expression.

Maybe in warm waters, the blowfish turn red, thus fooling onlookers into thinking they're blushing.

Or maybe they really ARE blushing, in which case the Japanese are actually right.
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>>115031666
I don't dislike Sakura, but I know what she is. She has all the symptoms of a histrionic and emotionally abusive woman. I've had to deal with their deceit first-hand. By the end of HF you do see that, in fact, Sakura is only half-heartedly pretending to be a victim, like many abusive women. They're all born with knowledge of emotional manipulation. They wallow in the muds of self-pity, and slowly their own drama makes them lose compassion for others, to the point that they will hurt others without feeling any guilt. That's Sakura, and abusive women in a nutshell. In fact HF is a very apt analogy for real life. Abusive women wreck stuff because drama in their head. Men may get destroyed for white-knighting.

Really, just say no to deceit, no matter the circumstances. Beware of pity, or you will be the next villain in her story that she needs rescued from. Supporting the downtrodden is very different from actually dating them. Saber is our idealistic childhood fantasy. Rin is the light and candidate for a healthy, uplifting relationship. Sakura is the mud of self-pity and misery that characterizes all torrid, toxic relationships.
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>>115032369
So how would Sakura fly to her Swordman?
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>>115032359
filthy secondaries
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>>115032417
Ribbon side copter
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>>115032417
She would worm instead
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>>115032417
Worms helicopter
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Saber confirmed for best stay night.
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>>115032487
That's just rude.
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>>115032514
>not rin
1/10 please try again
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>>115032551

Please. Sakura is number one.
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>>115032587
She has the boobs, but that's it.
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>>115026031
Who is the artist for OP?
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>>115032587
But that ain't Sakura, son.
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>>115032686
Yeah that bothers me. Sakura-fans always busting out the /CCC to justify Sakura but no-one is using the Saber Clones or Prisma/Rin to justify the other two
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>>115032782
Does Prisma's Rin have a particularly different personality?
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>>115032926
I'd argue yes. I don't think FSN Rin would ever lower herself to become Luvia's maid. However I'm not 100% confident I can argue this point successfully so I am pre-emptively conceding defeat on this point
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>>115032782
You'll find that that's because Saber and Rin clones are vastly inferior to the originals, whilst the same can't be said for wormslut.
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>>115033016
Not sure if that's an insult to Nasu being unable to write better, or a compliment to /CCC's writing staff where BB and Co are just superior versions of Nasu's Sakura
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Every version of wormslut are shit
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>>115031002
>implying retarded sex scenes are worse than mana dolphins
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>>115031002
Honestly the sex scenes would do better as fade to black, I ctrled through them anyway.
They weren't even really fappable, mostly due to writing, but still.
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>>115033242
Reminder that mana dolphins did nothing wrong
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When is the next episode of UBW:Rhino wars?
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>>115033099
I can't say I agree, most people who critique FSn Sakura usually parrot half-assed out of context insults about her character, and really prove that they either are hiding the fact they didn't read the VN, or they are one of those people who blindly hate a character and offer rather hypocritical comments. They'll accept behavior from one character, but not from other characters. It makes character analysis pretty useless.

There are rare people who do have intelligent counterpoints, but those are few and far between. I found Sakura just as fun as either BB or Blossom, and Nasu himself said that BB was primarily based off his version of a mischevious subset of the kouhai archetype, which Sakura showed in both FSN and Hollow, but "mischeviousness" wasn't her primary attribute. That made her a complex character.
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>>115032782
>Prisma Rin
>justify
Prisma Rin was a lot worse than FSN Rin.
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>>115033487
There is a heavy bias when Sakura fans go up against Rin and Saber fans and the entire argument is just. "Lol wormslut"
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>>115033566
Which is why I don't argue personal opinion, and only go for factual errors and hyprocritical statements. For instance, the primary thing is that she is boring, and only cares about cooking and senpai, but she is the only character who actively takes part in a sports club regularly even when her senpai never comes back to it, and even leads it at the end of the original game and the fandisk. Further, her cooking was something shared between her and Shirou, not just something she does to be close to him, the teacher/student dynamic they have is amusing, and she actively tries to better herself in it outside of hanging with Shirou.

Now, it is unfortunate that Nasu didn't show more of her training in magecraft, that is a fair argument in discussion, since there are lots of interesting subplots to explore there: her making friends with a bishop of the Church and her learning witchcraft from Rider both in FSN and Hollow, and how she made/obtained that mystic code she wears in Hollow.
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>>115033864
She's the slut who killed Shirou's character during HF "protect me sempai" no fuck off
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>>115033864
I think Sakura was fucked by the fact that she's only a beast when she's at her worst and that rubs people the wrong way.

"There's no reason to like someone who's terrible at magic in a show about magic."

Nasu also fucked her by getting her Imaginary Numbers turned into a generic Water affinity. She would have been cool as fuck if she could use that.
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>>115032782
I'm a Sakura fan and I know that isn't Sakura. You got to stop your generalizations there.

Though I always found it amusing that some try to use that to propel their soapbox about how bad Sakura is, when it's artwork from one of her biggest fans in the TM staff, Koyama. Most don't know that TM has quite a few Sakura fans on staff - OKSG, Koyama, BLACK, and now Aotsuki. It's mentioned in her entry in the dictionary, an excerpt from a 2004 material book.
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>>115033922
I find Sakura thoroughly less interesting than the other two heroines, but you're clearly missing the point of HF if you think she/it killed Shirou's character.
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>>115034061
>implying I have an issue I'm trying to propel

>Not just pointing out the awkwardly consistent regularity to which that picture gets used in defense of FSN Sakura when its not her.
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>>115034098
Easy enough since he's dead.
I wouldn't call it an achievement.
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>>115034241
Saber is dead too though
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>>115034254
But my dad isn't a heroic spirit.
And no he's not gonna be a counter guardian
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>>115034307
>Not a Heroic Spirit
>Doesn't know the legends about his own father

Are you just willfully ignorant of how badass your father was or did he keep you out of the loop?
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>>115034241
Your dad might be a Heroic Spirit.
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>>115034307
Your father is the bone of his sword
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>>115032587
That is fat ass. Hot.
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>>115033947

She isn't terrible at magic that is a myth, her magecraft and natural affinity was messed up, there is a difference. There are plenty of scenes she does things Shirou would cross his eyes at, like using remote viewing through Rider to watch over him in the forest, or evading Rin's monitoring familiar and sneaking out of the house to face Zouken. or even stitching her limbs back together not due to AM but her own powers.

See, people get the wrong idea when critiquing her when she was in captivity, whereas in Hollow(where she actually jumped into a sea of Avenger corpses to back up Rider and fought for an hour at the Broad Bridge battle), when she is free or any time she is free, she goes back to relearning magecraft. She even does so in HF Normal, where she takes a student. That's dedication to strive so hard when honestly, you'd be better off going back to a normal life after a lifetime of enslavement.
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>>115034361
>Are you just willfully ignorant of how badass your father was or did he keep you out of the loop?
Unless he was batman he was a pretty normal nerdy teacher
My mother would be a pretty good berserker though
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>>115029061
Unfortunately, the ToH tries as hard as possible to retain causality, so when lacking a reverse future catalyst, you won't be able to summon something from the future.
>>115029037
Saber wasn't summoned under normal means: she took a contract to do time travel on a system that happens to be the same system the ToH uses. Merlin didn't, and has no reason ti.
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>>115032293
Okay, this is my fetish.
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>>115034171
Oh well, guess those people are just too sensitive.
Besides, there was already a good looking pic by Koyama of the actual her, it should be posted more. I'd post it, but don't have it on me.
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>>115034505
Your father was actually an assassin. He could take on servants with his snake style and win. No-one expected much from him but those in the know spread his legend to the point it grew within the community.

Kuzuki is based on your father
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Why is saber bride best saber
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>>115034636
>don't have it on me

Here you go: http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/299297?tags=parent%3A299297
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If Caster summoned a fake servant, does that means she can summon any comic/manga hero?
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>>115033947
Her main issue is that she isn't trained in Magecraft. She is a experiment for Zouken, so he can create worm homos instead of hoping the land will be kind.
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>You will never be a heroic spirit
>You will never be turned into a cute girl to serve some random schmuck
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>>115026031
artist?
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>Looks at the lewd images in dis thread

Damn it, I'm going to have to start making
a folder for this don't I?
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I argued with a friend that Saber would beat Erza from Farty Trail no problem.
More experience and that whole Excalibur thing to heal her, it would be a war of attrition that Saber would win.
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>>115035042
It has to be someone rooted in reality.
The Assassin she summoned never existed as the legend goes, so instead, she summoned a nameless guy who just happened to be the closest thing that resembled Kojirou's 'legend'.
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Arturia with boobs?
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>>115036392
Red saber?

Small breasts are good too, much
more sensitive, and easier to make a woman..
Gush.
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>>115033947
But she actually have both.
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>>115033947
In terms of natural skill and affinity, she's equal or surpassing Rin in some fields, but she loses out in actual experience or knowledge.

She molded her entire magic into something two times over in the scope of four days by just feeling shit out, she is a genius in some fields and is a natural. However since she's still a Lv1 in terms of knowledge, Rin notes that what she molded her magecraft into was all pretty basic stuff without greater complexity, but simple isn't always terrible in this case. It just means it's easy to avoid for Rin who can see through it, although the scope of it was too huge to play that card due to her mana being at the level of a counter guardian. Also as she lacks experience, Rin can still see through her and out-talk her most of the time.

Sakura had just as much potential and possible inborn genius as Rin, but since 80% of it went underutilized she has some flaws to exploit even with infinite power, despite being good enough to mold it. As of Ataraxia she's training from the ground up in experience and knowledge from Rider and someone from the Church. She's showing some fast growth, but Rin might always be more than one step ahead at that rate as they now challenge each other forward on the path.
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>>115034536
>you won't be able to summon something from the future.

Merlin is from the past, but died in the future. It's like if a wizard in the 1600's invented time-travel, moved forward four-hundred years through time, and then was hit by a car the moment he materialized. That's what Merlin is, and you're trying to make the argument "No, he's from the future now, doesn't count that most of his catalysts would be from the past".

He'll die in the future, but without a doubt he's from the past.
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>>115034479
>See, people get the wrong idea when critiquing her when she was in captivity, whereas in Hollow(where she actually jumped into a sea of Avenger corpses to back up Rider and fought for an hour at the Broad Bridge battle),

WHAT?! When was this? who's Avenger?
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>>115037542
Read Hollow Ataraxia m8
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>>115037359
>Sakura had just as much potential and possible inborn genius as Rin

She doesnt. Her element is as rare as Rins element but it does not have the sheer functionality and wide application Rin's has.

Rins element is something most mages would kill for. Sakura's is a very interesting but ultimately not very useful one.
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>>115028131
>her subjects fucking hated her
No they didnt. A small part of them were duped into rebellion by Morgan and Mordred because they "couldnt understand her".

Essentially, she was too good a king. Her subjects demanded a king that was the embodiment of chivalry and who would separate themselves from everyone else. They got just that and some became uncomfortable with it.
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>>115037669
You know, mages have really gotta start doing something about going into battle in their normal clothes I can't imagine a dress is very combat helpful the same goes for Rin's short skirt and Saber's ballroom dress.
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>>115028438
Stop trying to force this epic meme.

Rinfags and Saberfags have long been bros. You wont change this.
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>>115037761
>Her element is as rare as Rins element but it does not have the sheer functionality and wide application Rin's has.

People really underestimate "That which is possible but not within reality" based on nothing. The train of thought basically just amounts to "That's one thing, and this is five things, it's clearly better to have more", despite how the missing elements can do shit that the standard elements could never dream of if shit lines up right. Imaginary Numbers alone can create entire dimensions, dimensions with infinite time and infinite space. It goes even further than that depending on the user, but the idea that "It's only effective against spirits" seems to be something the wiki just made up at present.
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>>115037943
>People really underestimate "That which is possible but not within reality" based on nothing

Its not that people underestimate it. Its that for something like Imaginary Numbers to be useful, the person needs to have a stupidly high amount of prana and even then it is only something that really affects familiars.

In the context of the grail war, this is pretty good. However, if we are talking about wider magecraft it is something that wouldnt be considered all that useful. Mages jizz themselves if they have control over two elements. Kayneth has control over water and wind and that is considered fucking awesome. Rin having control over all fucking 5 is like winning the magecraft lottery. So much so that she is said to become in the top 50 mages the Clocktower has ever had when she is a bit older.
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>>115037943
>just something the wiki made up
No, its stated in one of the data books.
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>>115037943
>Imaginary Numbers alone can create entire dimensions, dimensions with infinite time and infinite space
What is this fanfiction shit?

Even if it could, you'd need more mana that Zelretch has access to to be able to accomplish any of that
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>>115038149
If that were true it would be properly cited
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>>115037943
Basically if you have at average magic circuit(20x1?), its fucking shit because you don't have enough mana to get anything done with it.
Everything is shit at 20x1.

While the wiki is filled with tons of tons of tons and fanfiction, and taking interviews litterally.
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>>115026031
I have to ask because it's been annoying me lately, before the anime aired there was only Rin and Sakura fags around but barely any Saber fags. With that in mind is the majority of Saberfags seasonal fags and if so you guys are fucking disgusting and should be ashamed.
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>>115038202

Same with that whole "creates dimensions" bullshit that you just made up.
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>>115038234
>I have to ask because it's been annoying me lately, before the anime aired there was only Rin and Sakura fags around but barely any Saber fags

Hello newfriend. First month on /a/?
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>>115038234
Saberfags are probably the biggest subfanbase here, newfaggot-kun.

They just dont engage in daily shitflinging contests.
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>>115038107
>even then it is only something that really affects familiars.
hahaha. Remember Kayneths mercury blob? Thats a familiar.
Mystic Codes are technically familiars as well.
Do you use magic? Sorry, that too is affected.
And it goes the other way too. You can summon better familiars than others.

>>115038149
IN is not even stated to be shit in any of the FSN routes.
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>>115028991
lol, secondaries
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>>115038178
Sakura created a small dimension of infinite shadows to trap Gilgamesh in Heaven's Feel route for starters. Time and space don't so much apply in those dimensions created, not normally at least. We see some more applications in Ataraxia, CCC, Prism, etc. Like how in Prism all the servant worlds that are separated from normal space are imaginary number zones. Ataraxia she shows off her dimensions again in one or two jokes scenes. This is an ability which is slowly expanded upon more and talked about in different series.

Think of it as a pocket world that goes on forever, even the AUO could not escape from this imaginary numbers pit.
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>>115038318

Its a blob formed out of his control with water and wind, bro.

It isnt a prana construction. He fucking pours the mercury on the ground before animating it. Familiars = prana construct. Or if you are Nrvnsqr they are animals you have eaten.
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>>115038318

No.

Familiar = something born entirely of prana. Mystic codes are physical things that are manipulated with prana.

Just stop.
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reminder that if you don't like every TM girl in some shape or form, you're a fucking shit taste retard
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>>115038428
>>115038389
You could at the least disagree with me here.
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>>115038218
Yeah, most mages probably suck in general, although Sakura is on par with Rin with 1000 units of prana at a time. Supposedly equal circuits. So both sisters exhibit what normally cannot be done.

What is it with both Average One users to date, all they ever do is use it to send out magic grenades for the most part?
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>>115038460
Disagree? We are entirely refuting your point.

You cant bend something that is pretty specific to affect everything. You are posting a bad case of fanfiction and headcanon.
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>>115038262
>>115038303
So that's your excuse that I am new? Well it's fine you guys will die out once the anime is over anyways, just like you did after Zero.
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>>115038377
Although it was noted that Gilgamesh did almost escape a few times.

>Q: In Sakura’s Route, what happened to the devoured Gilgamesh? Sabre was blackened and enslaved, but was Gilgamesh’s will too strong to be dominated? Or was he completely digested?
>A: He simply cannot be controlled. In fact Gilgamesh cannot be blackened. After being devoured by the Grail, Sakura converted Gilgamesh into mana in haste because she was afraid that Gilgamesh might tear her up from the inside if she does not digest him. However, His Majesty was very hard to digest, so “Angra Mainyu” must have been plagued by belly-ache (laughs).
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>>115038502
>Its not
>Except the part where it is
please.
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>>115032072
REMOVE DRILL
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>>115038469
>supposedly equal circuits
I dont think we are ever told what Sakura's circuits are like.

>What is it with both Average One users to date, all they ever do is use it to send out magic grenades for the most part?

And, y'know, do Kaleidoscope magic. Rin being an inheritor and student of Zelretch's should tell you how OP her magecraft and element are.

And those "magic grenades" are all A ranked magic that can be invocked without incantation. That is some incredibly dangerous shit.
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>>115031310
well said
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>>115038504

>rinfags and sakurafags ever leaving

hahahahahahahaha
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>>115038537

>i have nothing, he has completely called out my fanfiction
>i'll just deny it constantly rather than try and come back with anything

Classy.
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>>115038584
You seem to have misread I was talking about the Saberfags.
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>>115038504

Anon, dont be an insufferable newfaggot.
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When will TM make a gag series about Saber and her son?
Season 4
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