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So, we all know Saber is the most TM character.

But with the new F/SN adaptation, will Rin or GARcher get to dethrone the queen?

Will the wormslut get a bump up?

And will Kotomine get any followers?

And will all of you enjoy seeing Ilya's beautiful heart?
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>>114578765
The only way it could possibly happen is if Rin and GARcher get completely more everything than Saber and Saber becomes completely irrelevant. She's been Queen all these years, and she'll likely remain so unless some new TM character can take her place.
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The amount of cooking in HF is way less than it's made out to be.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwtm1qwlG9w

Cringe challenge, rank B+
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>>114579185
Way more than in Fate or UBW.
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>>114578765
Are you assuming Kotomine doesn't have any followers
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>>114578765
Poor Saber threads dying out to Sakura ones.

Pity bump
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>>114580658
The Once and Future King isn't dead, only dreaming.

Some day, her time will come round again.
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>>114582784

Imagine what would happen when she returned and saw England as it is today.
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>>114582824
GET IN THE GRAIL, SHIROU
WE HAVE TO GO BACK
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>>114583563

How far back?

Would she try to preserve the British Empire? Stop America from rebelling? Stop the Normans? The Vikings?
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>>114580658
Everyone just went to that thread to hate on wormslut
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A sad day when a sakura thread gets more posts than a saber thread.
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>>114578765
>will Rin or GARcher get to dethrone the queen?

They'll at least dethrone Shiki. They might have a chance if they do a poll right after UBW airs.
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>>114578765
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>>114582784
Is that why her route is named "Continuation of the dream"?
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>>114583654
Read Fate again. The entire reason she's in the Grail War to begin with is so she can go back to before she was made King and have someone else do it so that everything doesn't go to shit.
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>>114578765
Saber will always be the most popular TM because elevens have impeccable taste. UBW isn't going to change that and neither will anything else.
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>>114586008
Sounds like Saberfags are quivering in their boots knowing the new queen is right at their doorstep.

Your disgusting NEET of a waifu's time is over.
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>>114586008
Isn't the running joke that Takuechi has a huge boner for Saber and can't stop inserting her everywhere?
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>>114586175
>running joke
You mean the truth?
I just wish he wouldn't water down classic Saber with all these knockoffs
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>>114586236
I know those feels man. Even if the other sabers are different people, just the visual look of "Saber" is becoming so watery that you could see Arturia and be like. "...that's probably some fucking new Saber I've never seen"
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>>114586175
Less a running joke and more of a painful truth. Take a look at Nero, Mordred and Saber Sakura. Literal clones.

Shame too, because nothing beats the original.
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>>114578765
>Saber is the most TM character.
What does this even mean?
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Saber's ass is nonexistent
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>>114586098
Look pal, I like Tohsaka too, but you're delusional if you think she'll outrank the once and future King.

Archer will be more popular than Rin, guaranteed.
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>>114586317

Yeah, but that's part of the charm. Not everyone is Sir Mixalot.
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>>114578765
The really interesting thing will be seeing if Ryougi gets demoted from second place, given that it's been a few years since KnK7 and she hasn't gotten any new material since then aside from Mirai Fukuin.
Luckily, her popularity rankings will never affect her best girl status!
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>>114586338
>Archer will be more popular than Rin, guaranteed.

They've been neck and neck for years, with one either topping the other. There's no guarantee.
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>>114586355
She's going to get bumped. All the polls are going to go heavily into Fate's favour because of things like /CCC and the new material coming out now.

Shiki is totally not best girl. I respect your opinion and your taste as they are adequate. However I still disagree
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>>114586355
Don't you mean best boy?
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>>114586494
That's what I suspect. The fact that she ever got as high as #2 was always a little surprising to me. Also, given that the nips are fickle sheep like the rest of us, the blitz of new Fate material will count for a lot.

I respect your right to disagree while simultaneously reasserting my love for her.

>>114586540
Post-SHIKI Shiki after a few years and some love> SHIKI > Shiki.
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>>114586595
Yeah man. I do hope that at least only 5 of the positions are fate ones. I'd like to see more representation of the other works in there.

How very mature of you. Don't you know this is the internet and no-one is allowed meaningful discourse? I will now proceed to shit-talk Ryougi because we cannot allow these pleasantries to continue

Ryougi is fucking shit-tier. Sakura is better than her
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How many hours away are we from the premiere?
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>>114586595
>Forgetting Shiki
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>nobody ever pronounces Rin correctly
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>>114586851
Reen? R-in?
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>>114586658
And a wormslut etc etc to you too.

>>114586792
Really, though, sticking 「」in a list is sort of hard, given we actually see her converse a grand total of once. ALthough, she is almost like a NEET with the Ryougi body as her house and the Shikis as her parents which is sort of nifty. Maybe she's got the right idea: interacting with the world is pretty shit so you may as well avoid it.
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>>114586851

How2 do you pronounce it? Rin is pretty easy to pronounce. Tohsaka yes, Rin not so much.
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>>114586953
Toesucker Rin
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>>114587094

Shut up Luvia, your name is almost unpronounceable.
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>>114587125
How hard is it to pronounce "Ohohoho"?
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>>114587094
Would you suck on Tohsaka's toes?
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>>114587152
Ohahahaha~ Oh...I fucked up
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>>114586953
Nipnog "Rin" is pronounced "Reen"
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>>114587381
Bullshit. Even in Japanese it sounds exactly the same as you'd pronounce it phonetically in english. In fact I'm having trouble believing anyone could interpret something as simple as "Rin" as anything else.
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>>114587515
リン has only one possible pronunciation in japanese. Rhymes with "lean".
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>>114579185
There's always F/HA
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>>114587515
Not anon you're arguing with but English doesn't do the whole "In-between L/R" thing since we differentiate. I'd argue that Rin wouldn't rhyme with Bin and that the Ri would sound like Ree. So I don't know how you do it but I'd pronounce it something closer to Reen just with a funky R sound on it and a muted N at the end
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>>114582824
>>114583654
But she was fighting against the Saxons, therefore her enemies would be Anglo-Saxons
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>>114587639
Tomayto tomahto.
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>>114587643
You are playing the game wrong if you don't hold down ctrl every time you see "food" or "cooking".
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>>114587689
But we have definitive answer to Tomayto Tomahto. It's Tomahto. Its only a really specific American accent which turns Mah into May
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>>114587689

Unlike a a romantic or germanic language like english, a particulate language like japanese has no alternate pronunciations.
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>>114586317
>implying her small butt isn't fucking exquisite
Go and whale somewhere else you chubbychasing freak.
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Does Rin have the lewdest, most obscene butt?
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>>114587879
>missing the point
Saying "Rin" or "Reen" is equivalent to saying "tomayto" or "tomahto" in that anyone you're talking to generally knows what the fuck you're talking about. Especially in a particulate language like Japanese which has so few vowels. It's not like people are going to mistake you for saying Ron or some shit.
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So slowpoke here,
Do we have a date for when we can download the 1st ep of UBW?
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>>114587940
>implying having no ass is something to be treasured and proud of.

Have fun with your King of Knights man
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>>114588054
The 4th for episode 0, the 11th for episode 1.
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>>114588041
That's a different Rin though.
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>>114588041

She has the most obscene anus for sure.

Why does Shirou want to do her arse? Is he into anal?
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>>114588068
thank you kind anon
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>>114588089
He's just a sword that wants a tight sheath.
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>>114588089

Shirou's a perverted horndog beneath it all. "You lost me" is just a joke. He wants to jackhammer her full force in the ass, mouth, and vagina.
He just keeps it under wraps with japanese style mental training.
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>>114588172
>all that junk in the trunk
What a great nightmare.
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>>114588208
He's so perverted that he has to become Zen just to avoid walking around with a bone of his sword all day.

Truly Shirou has found the best path to the Root
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>>114587179
No but I'd let her jerk me off with her feet.
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Setting aside the waifu-faggotry running rampant in this thread.

I just started Tsukihime, please tell me there's a way to put it in fullscreen, I don't think I can handle this tiny ass window.
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>>114588089
>Is he into anal?
Are you not?
Look at the girls in Fate, I'd say most of them have very fuckable butts.
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>>114588276

HAVE YOU TRIED PRESSING F
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>>114588276
>I just started Tsukihime, please tell me there's a way to put it in fullscreen, I don't think I can handle this tiny ass window.
Did you try pressing F?
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>>114588276
Delete system32. If that doesn't work then Ctrl+Shift+Esc. Select your browser of choice, close it and then come back to the thread once you've gotten up to date
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>>114588276
Ctrl F.
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>>114588276
>I don't think I can handle this tiny ass window
Can you handle stretched-ass graphics?
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>>114588308
>>114588312
You guys are my niggas.
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>>114588387
Google is your nigga next time
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>>114579232
It's like a ponyfag convention.
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>>114588276
keep in mind that Akiha is the best girl
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>>114588461
Figured something so obscure wouldn't readily be on the internet.

>>114588498
Will do.
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>>114588498
Woah, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
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If all legends are based on something, what would King Arthur legend be based on? A roman legionnaire just having a tour around England slapping shit?
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>>114588498
That's not Hisui.
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>>114588575
Pic related.
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>>114588572
Yes, let's not.
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>>114588575
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Artorius_Castus
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>>114588575

A late Roman commander fighting the first Saxons.
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>>114588575
Picture related. She's reading text you can find at http://www.arthuriana.co.uk/historicity/arthur.htm .
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>>114588572
I know right. Red-heads are best Tsukihime

Even if I did use a Mahoyo pic
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>>114588677
I will be honest with you, I never notice that that book had actual text in it.
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>>114588724
There's a common rotated version in which the text is completely unreadable. Even if you happen to see the right version, you have to get past her eyes, rack, and thighs to pay attention to it, so it's completely understandable
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Why didn't Kiritsugu just get a pace maker?
Why didn't Kirei just open a mapo tofu shop to break his suffering fetish?
Why didn't Shirou just project a new grail if he was so good at projection?
Why didn't Illya just have Berserker attack Shirou and Rin in the first place?
Why didn't Rider just move out of the way of Excalibur?
Why didn't Rin just use a command seal to stop Archer's betrayal in UBW?
Why didn't Sakura and Zouken just go to family counseling in HF?
Why didn't Archer just let Caster kill Shirou?
Why didn't Caster just wish for Kuzuki to have emotions?
Why didn't Lancer just kill Kotomine before Kotomine became his master?
Why didn't Shirou project a sword to cut off the chain near the ending?
Why didn't Kiritsugu tell Shirou being a superhero is a bad idea?
Why didn't Sakura just call the police on Shinji?
Why didn't Shinji just have consensual sex with the girls that liked him?
Why didn't Caster just rulebreak Berserker?
Why didn't Assassin just bring the gate with him to have his rematch with Saber?
Why didn't Kirei just dodge the lance?
Why didn't Saber tell Shirou that Ilya is his sister?
Why didn't Archer just save everyone?
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>>114588693
Worst sister.
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>>114588724
>>114588753
I don't know about you guys, but i didn't even notice she wasn't wearing pants, the book is the first thing i looked at. And it really bothers me that the writing on the bottom of the page is curving with the paper, but the paper itself isn't.
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>>114588756
CAN'T.
WAIT.
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>>114588801
If you want to get that way about it, I'm disturbed by the fact that the text is right-ragged. It was published in the 2000's, there's no way a publishing journal isn't justifying their text unless it's poetry or something.
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>>114588756

i watch it fer teh perdy gurls.
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>>114588787
Its funny. I like both Aozaki equally but Touko wasn't in Tsukihime so I couldn't introduce her as well.

I can't wait for Nasu to reveal what happened during that trip where Touko met Azaka or when Touko went to another world with Beowulf. That'd be awesome
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>>114588609
Both maids are love. I just love one a little bit more.
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>>114588895
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>>114588895
I find all the Tsukihime girls wonderful enough that I can't ever consistently rank them. (Except _____)

>Error: Duplicate file exists here. >>114588927

Well, okay.
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>>114588756
>Why didn't Archer just let Caster kill Shirou?
He thought that if he killed Shirou himself, he'd cause a time paradox that makes time shit itself and poof both of them out of existence.
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>>114588756
>Why didn't Shirou project a sword to cut off the chain near the ending?
Because how else would we get this sweet ass ending?
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>>114588977
>Easiest VN decision ever made
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>>114588756
>Why didn't Kiritsugu just get a pace maker?
What good would it do against a curse from all the evils of the world?
>Why didn't Kirei just open a mapo tofu shop to break his suffering fetish?
That would only COMPOUND his suffering fetish.
>Why didn't Shirou just project a new grail if he was so good at projection?
Because he's NOT that good.
>Why didn't Ilya just have Berserker attack Shirou and Rin in the first place?
She did.
>Why didn't Rider just move out of the way of Excalibur?
Committed to the Ballapwn.
>Why didn't Rin just use a command seal to stop Archer's betrayal in UBW?
She effectively already did, as you'll see this weekend. Archer was resisting it.
>Why didn't Sakura and Zouken just go to family counseling in HF?
"Hi, I'm made of worms and my granddaughter's evil incarnate!"
>Why didn't Archer just let Caster kill Shirou?
Because he wanted him for himself.
>Why didn't Caster just wish for Kuzuki to have emotions?
Because Caster knows tall silent and mysterious partners are the best.
>Why didn't Lancer just kill Kotomine before Kotomine became his master?
Because Gilgamesh.
>Why didn't Shirou project a sword to cut off the chain near the ending?
He was tapped after UBW.
>Why didn't Kiritsugu tell Shirou being a superhero is a bad idea?
Because if he did he'd be an even worse father than he was an adopted son.
>Why didn't Sakura just call the police on Shinji?
Because she enjoyed it.
1/2
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>>114588995
>Why didn't Shinji just have consensual sex with the girls that liked him?
Because all Matous have a rape fetish. See last answer.
>Why didn't Caster just rulebreak Berserker?
Because she'd never get close enough.
>Why didn't Assassin just bring the gate with him to have his rematch with Saber?
Because he can't lift it.
>Why didn't Kirei just dodge the lance?
Because he wasn't good enough.
>Why didn't Saber tell Shirou that Ilya is his sister?
Because it suited her goals to have Shirou believe otherwise.
>Why didn't Archer just save everyone?
Not through lack of trying.
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>>114589070
Goddammit. Gilgamesh does not deserve me feels. They are mine, not his.
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>>114589098
Everything is his, even your feels.
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>>114588963
>>114588995
>>114589075
And we were doing so well in not knee-jerk responding to the Frodos, too.
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>>114589040
They cut it out of the anime, but after Nasu made the design canon in CCC they might as well go for it in the manga.
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>>114589110
Then... Gilgamesh has the virginity of all the womens in the world?
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>>114589127
Not necessarily. Just the original virginity, of which all modern virginity is simply a crude imitation.
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>>114589127
Doesn't he actually state that himself?
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>>114588995
>Ballapwn
POP POP WATCHIN ENEMY SERVANTS DROP
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>>114589110
I refuse. My feels cannot be imitation. If you were to enter Gate of Babylon you would not find feels such as these
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>>114589167
Are your feels of divine origin?
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>>114589127
In fact, when you're taking a girl's virginity you're making an offering to him
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>>114589186
My feels are made of alien feels. MEoDP cannot cut them, Shirou cannot even trace them.
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>>114589146
Not necessarily, human history did go on for some 2000 years before he existed in TM to the point that there's an ancient past that even he'd bow down to. Virginity is something handed down to humans from an alien/heavenly body along with the rest of their selves.

>If it does not exist in Gilgamesh's treasury, then it is "something produced by a new breed of humanity, according a completely new concept," "something made from the technology of the culture born from the intelligent life from another heavenly body," one of the two.

Although the path of a tyrant is to make it yours anyway, even if it didn't belong to you originally. That's something Gil and Alex agree upon.
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>>114589232
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>>114589296
Never to be animated again.
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>>114588990
I'm sure some Gilfags went through a personal crisis there.
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>>114589296
TYPE-FEELS. After the end of the Earth the only thing that could combat my feels is the Gun God using the Black Barrel
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>>114589260
I think there's a slight chance we may be taking this to levels of absurdity.
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>>114589360

Welcome to a Type Moon thread.

Enjoy your stay.
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>>114589360
Isn't that the point?
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>>114589345
No matter how fascinating a character, ultimately they were brought forth so that their essence could burn in the fires of Nasu's creativity and bring about a story.
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>>114589360
Absurdity? Gilgamesh has the original of that in his vault too. Its right beside the proto-potato masher
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>>114589385
Of course. Speaking of which, would you say humans have a desire for virginity or for the conquest of it, and would that affect the contents of Gil's treasury?
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>>114589360
Don't be absurd, there's no way could be over-complicating simple things beyond the point of rationality
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>>114589427
Before there were rails, I was the owner of derailment!
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>>114589450
>>114589430
>>114589427

Si this Powerlevels, or Waifuwars?
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>>114589427
>proto-potato masher
Could Gilgamesh out cook Shiro with such equipment at his disposal?
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>>114589475
Yes.
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>>114589475

An unholy mix of both.

Fitting that it's over Gil.
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>>114589345
You assume a person can't enjoy watching a character they like die as long as it was well handled. It was not especially well handled in that sense.

Still not a bad moment on one side of the fence, if you ignore certain things.
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>>114589525

What would sex with Gil be like?
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>>114589470
Oh really now?

>>114589475
I think this might actually be an original thought

>>114589482
Gilgamesh could out-cook Shirou with mongrel's tools but he chooses to use the KING OF POTATO MASHERS to show the superiority of Uruk's greatest Mashed Potato Salad.
The secret ingredient is gold
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>>114589482
if Shirou got his hands on what lies within the deepest parts of the Evocationary area of the Association and sends the Seventh Scripture in her, things will be different.
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>>114589553
I think it happens if you play as FeMC in fate/CCC
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>>114589553
Like getting dominated and cast away without second thought.
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>>114589475
If it's not "My girl >>>>>> your girl" then it's not waifuwars. You don't see any girls directly being mentioned in this conversation, it's not waifus.

I guess waifu-wars could be about men as well, but that's still not the flavor of the day.
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>>114589631
What would sex with Gil be like if you were Saber? What would rape with Gil be like if you were Saber Alter? Would Gil even acknowledge that he was being raped?
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>>114589631

So rape?
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>>114589641

Husbandowars doesn't roll off the tongue as well though.
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>>114589659
Alter would be the one getting raped, anyway.
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>>114589689
But Gil doesn't like Alter so he wouldn't deem her as worthy of his dick. It'd be like a king fucking a lowly peasant.
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>>114582824

>seeing her britain turning into a caliphate

would probably excaliblast London
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>>114589707
He was keen enough on raping and tormenting her in UC.
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>>114589611
>Gilgamesh :: But simply investigating the Labyrinth alone is boring. Hakuno, you may talk about something. Whim it may be, but this is the chat time you’ve been so desperate for, isn’t it?

>…the chat time I’ve been desperate for…It is rare for Gilgamesh to propose something like this himself, true, but I can’t just think something up on the spot. I have to be thinking about Jinako now, and —

>Gilgamesh :: What. You’re even more boring than the Labyrinth. If you had an SG it would be bland and tasteless, I have no doubt. There’s no helping it. As king I must bring things into motion myself. Answer my question, mongrel. Which man would you want to hold you?

>Huh, are you stupid?

>…I swallow that immediate response. What is this ‘King of Heroes’ asking me about, all of a sudden. And by “hold,” he must mean, in that sense —

>Gilgamesh :: Of course. What else would it mean. Ultimately, that is all there can be between a man and a woman. …hm. But were you to name some man I have no knowledge of, that wouldn’t be interesting, would it. Then let us limit it to those men within the student council chamber. Among these, which would you choose?

> Leo
> Julius
> Gatou
> Gilgamesh
> I’m not interested in any of them

[>] Leo

>Gilgamesh :: Again you choose to walk a thin line. Such a choice cannot simply be called a taste for younger men. That boy is nearly grown, after all.

[>] Julius

>Gilgamesh :: A taste for ghosts, what a gloomy woman. Revise that preference. It’s unbearably dull and depressing.


[>] Gilgamesh

>Gilgamesh :: Ridiculous. Don’t make the obvious choice. What will I do if you answer seriously to the questions I ask as an amusing distraction. Hm. Well, it is unavoidable. Being exposed to the aura of the king at such close range, such insolence will occur. Very well, I will forgive you this time. But give up. You are far from being to my tastes. Four thousand years too early.
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>>114589732

Were there even Muslims back in her time? Would she even understand what a caliphate is?
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>>114589748
He rejects you early on enough; Gilgamesh and (Fe)MC are tsundere as hell for each other, but it's not quite that sort of relationship.
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>>114589748
Shit man. Gil plays the mad long game. Bitch has to age 4000 years just to get the Gilly D
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>>114589748
I wonder how this conversation plays out with male protag.
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>>114589748
>“Four thousand years,” what a complete rejection…! And for that matter, why do I feel upset, I wonder…it was just a frivolous discussion, so why do I feel like I’ve taken damage?

[>] I’m not interested in any of them

>Gilgamesh :: Oh, so you’re saying there is no man among these who can satisfy you? It seems my contractor has very strict tastes.

>>114589844
He asks the same thing, but about the girls instead

Sakura
Rin
Rani
Jinako?
etc
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>>114589868
Although I would think the servant is still an option come to think of it. That is a curiosity now.
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>>114589868
>Sakura
>Rin
>Rani
>Jinako?
And his responses?
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>>114589868
>No option to scream I'LL WAIT FOR YOU
;_;
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>>114589941
Gilgamesh would probably just be bemused by that response and think nothing of it.

That is the life you live if you follow Gilgamesh
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>>114588756
>Why didn't Rin just use a command seal to stop Archer's betrayal in UBW?
she had already used two so if she used the 3rd she wouldn't have control over him anyway so it didn't matter
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>>114589941
You lose to him if you worship him like that, Hakuno understood that much which is why they play it a bit tsun when they can. If you ever want to be equals you can't be desperate.

Don't just be a one time use item he'll throw away when he's done with it, be something that can stand on the same level.
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>>114589993
>>114589999
You have both taught me a valuable lesson, thank you. Also nice trips.
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>>114590031
>>114589999
That's not trips. That's QUADS
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>>114590031
You'll learn how to win Gilgamesh's respect in CCC, and maybe a bit more.

> “In addition, I’d looked into your Servant on the Near Side.
>A Berserker......”
>“That one had immediately terminated your contract
>upon losing sight of you.
>You were abandoned by your own dog.”
>“Even I had not anticipated that.
>For you to drop out before losing miserably in the sixth round
>would be a stain upon my reputation.”

>“You are, in the end, one who had exchanged a contract with me.
>You must fall only when you have failed in spite of having fought with all your strength.”

>Gilgamesh says all this in an impassive tone.
>For my part, I only stare dumbly at the hauteur that was all too familiar to me.

>Along with surprise, I…...well,
>I don’t know what it was exactly that welled up in my chest,
>but I can’t help but start to grin a little.

>“So, what will you do?
>There does happen to be a Servant
>sitting here with nothing on his hands.”

>“If you say to aim for the summit together,
>then take my hand.
>Once more, the time has come for you to offer up your Command Spells.”

>I shake the extended hand.
>Leaving behind one, I use two Command Spells.

>First, that we are on equal footing.
>With the pledge of the Command Spell,
>I promise the freedom of accepting, respecting, and, if necessary, opposing
>each other’s beliefs.

>And the second――――――
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>>114589999
Heard that one before.
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>>114590065
Pardon me, even more impressive.
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>>114590157
You are excused. For that /a/non's understanding of Gilgamesh, he was rewarded with the Quads of Babylon
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>>114590225
After all, all repeating digits are but shallow copies of the original >>11, when all of 4chan was hosted on single server!
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>>114590225
I hope one day to reach their level.
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>>114590258
Gilgamesh was the owner of the first Get.

>>114590262
We all do /a/non. I, however know I cannot reach that level and I shall merely aim for Faker status
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>>114589748
>No option to pick Shinji
The response alone would have been worth it.
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>>114590031
http://tsukinoura.wordpress.com/

May as well start reading, from entry 1 to 133
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>>114590378
Thanks a bunch anon.
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>>114578765
Rin and Saber both have the same relevance in both of their routes. Nothing will change.
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>>114590536
Saber gets taken out for a chunk of UBW due to Caster. She's slightly less relevant in the route.
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>>114578969
>The only way it could possibly happen is if Rin and GARcher get completely more everything than Saber and Saber becomes completely irrelevant.

Which isn't going to happen in UBW unless they throw the VN script in the trash.
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>>114589751
>Were there even Muslims back in her time?
This question is just silly. yes there were muslims back there. Arthur was said to have fought in mainland europe on a few campaigns, so she would've known of them. Whether she knew what a Caliphate is or not is up to debate.
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>>114590583
Saber doesn't really do a whole lot in UBW. I mean her biggest fight is with Fake-Assassin.
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Caster > Rider > Taiga > Illya > Ayako > Sakura > Saber > Rin
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>>114590652
Beyond your top tier, I have some issues, but you got the important parts right.
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>>114590619
Fake-Assassin is supposed to be strong as shit.
Even Lancer admitted to being hesitant to fight him.
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>>114590672

Kuzuki made her happy.
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>>114590593

>Muslims

No. Mohammed is from the late 6th century. King Arthur is from the late 5th century.
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>>114590689
TM is really good at depicting girls who are made happy by their relationships.
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So is UTW going to sub this?
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>>114590687
Yeah, but I mean a lot of UBW involves her either being hungry or jobbing. She only really gets to kick ass near the route of the route.
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>>114590714

How many of those are there though? There are very few TM relationships that end well.
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>>114590724
Its not her fault that only Rin is allowed to be competent and relevant outside of her route.
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>>114590719
Bide your time, and hold out hope.
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