Why don't the Japanese ever right good and realistic war dramas? Is it that I've just been brought up in a very militarized and gun loving society and I'm the strange one for wanting them? It seems that more Japanese have gotten into guns recently though as we've seen with things like High School of the Dead and Upotte. They are writing stories for people who enjoy accurate gun things. I still haven't seen a gritty war drama and the closest I've seen is Sora no Wato when it's doing flashbacks to the leaders past.
Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?
>pic related
>>110147929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpr_75YYX1o
We have Stella.
>>110147929
It wouldn't sell. Japs have an unrealistic image of guns anyway, that's why they're always wielded by cute girls in the first place
>>110147929
>It seems that more Japanese have gotten into guns recently
>recently
Military otaku have always been around and have sub categories. It's the reason GuP and Strike Witches was a huge success.
Japanese shows are all abstracted from reality.
Just watch Gundam or something.
>>110148017
>Japs have an unrealistic image of guns anyway
Right.
>>110147929
>Why don't the Japanese ever right good and realistic war dramas?
Watch old shit like The Cockpit.
Why would they.
>>110148138
Because there is a growing market for it.
>>110147929
but they did Its called Gundam Seed
>>110148187
Where?
>>110147929
>why don't the Japanese right good
>>110148108
>>110147929
Does anybody ever write good and realistic war dramas?
>>110148470
It has a pointy end, wood furniture, and the shoulder thing that goes up goes up-er than any contemporary 'merkin riffle.
I want one.
Japan does not have good experiences with war.
>>110148609
We might have very different ideas of the word realistic
>>110148470
I m not even /k/ here, but design is atrocious.
The magazine stands upright, blocking your view. the woodpiece would rot from sitting on the mud, and what's the point of a stationary gun with a bayonete?
The handle probably isn't sitting on its center of gravity either, so carrying it around would be a pain, too.
They made a pretty good liveaction submarine movie couple years ago.
Japs can't write banter for shit and 90% of making a good war drama series is quality banter.
>>110148470
Still better than the Chauchat.
>>110147929
>he does not watch Gundams
what a faggot
>>110147929
Not really, but worth a look:
Gun Sling Girl
Zipang (Sounds interesting?)
Toward the Terra
Gunparade March
Saikano
Grave of the Fire Flies
Ghost in the Shell SAC S1/S2
Legend of the Legendary Heroes (Swords)
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam
Gungrave
Blue Gender
Aura Battler Dunbine
Tekkaman
Gasaraki (Gets weird)
Guin Saga
Tales of Prince Arslan (First OVA's)
Utawaremono (Tactics)
Yukikaze (Planes)
Votoms (Sci fi)
Macross Zero (Watch for animation of robots, strange bird people in the end)
Strain (Robots!)
Jin Roh (Guns!)
Claymore (Gritty, but w/ monster girls with swords)
Now and Then Here and There
Infinite Ryvius (Lord of the Flies in Space)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (Obligatory)
>spoon feeding etc.
>>110147929
>>110148042
>>110148236
>>110148799
this
There are two types of "real war" shows Japanese do - Gundams and Sengoku/Three Kingdoms dramas
Also, check FLAG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wfv6FjzHbw
>>110147929
War is shit and only homosexuals who overcompensate with big guns love it.
>>110148986
Whatever you say commie.
>>110148271
Aoi Bungaku
Usually not animated.
>>110149031
Mate, Americans are the definition of overcompesating faggots.
>>110149077
Sorry I can't hear you all the way from the first world.
>>110148667
Feeding from the top means you can fit larger magazines without them hitting the ground when you're using the bipod. It also makes magazine changes when you're firing from the hip using a sling.
Video isn't exactly scientific, and it's for the BREN, but closest I can find. ~3:48 has gunny complaining about the box mag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-CfuvCHq4I#t=228
>>110149077
>compensating
>compensating
>compensating
Can Yuros do anything without thinking of cock?
>>110149102
We still higher HDI and IHDI than you cunts.
>>110147929
>cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things
Because THAT would sale at all. I'm sure people on /a/ would eat it up but Japan would probably be repulsed by something like that.
>>110147929
Anime isn't their only medium you know...
>>110149182
>muh HDI muthfucka
Talk about a broken record.
>>110149157
Wouldn't side-mounted be best?
And from my knowledge, hip-firing is awful and should be avoided always.
>bitch about having the lack of good and realistic war dramas
>want little girls in them
>>110149157
Just admit Japan cant into weapons.
>>110149348
>bitch about having the lack of good and realistic war dramas
Autists cant relate to something unless there is something cute and colorful on the screen, see the MLP war pictures from deviant art for an example of this.
>>110149387
19D Cav Scout involved in the invasion of Iraq. I just like seeing cute little girls in my anime.
>War Drama
>featuring little girls
Thatfs Mai-Otome for you
>>110149408
Who doesn't.
>>110149272
Hip-firing IS awful, but nobody knew that yet. Marching fire was THE role for the light machine gun, s'pecially after everyone saw how mobile those krauts were with their submachine guns.
I'm guessing side-mounted mags didn't happen because they'd make it harder for lefties to reload.
>>110149376
No doubt the nips had some shitty stuff, but the Brits did the same damn thing with the top-mounted magazine. If two sets of engineers stumbled across the same design independently, it more than likely had some apparent redeeming feature.
>>110149539
>implying anyone ever cares about lefties
No Jormungand yet?
>>110149539
Top mounted mags make it easier for your buddy to change the mag for you so you don't have to change positions when firing. If you're stuck using a box fed weapon in the supporting fire role it's not a terrible design.
>>110149539
It was not so much two groups of engineers coming up with the same design as both weapons being derivatives of the same Czech design.
:>>110147929
>Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?
Strike Witch love is alive and well. Happy, fun, fanservice girls sell merchandise. Tragedies and depressing plots are already known to not sell merchandise.
>>110149863
Madoka shows the current market still has interest in muh suffering stuff.
>>110147929
Anyone who can write a good and realistic war drama is doing it live-action.
>>110149408
Sora No Woto is as close as you are gonna get. You just need to face facts.
>>110149923
Madoka isn't a military drama.
>>110150023
>>110149408
>Cav Scout
That explains a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ABMB0MW6VIU#t=112
>>110147929
There is a serious lack of /k/ porn in anime. Usually I leave gritty realistic stuff to the west but they're just as fucking bad about it.
>every war movie
>MURRIKA FUKK YEAR SAVING THE WORLD
>Oh wait you wanted guns and a realistic portrayal of war? Too bad have some relationship drama and oscar bait emotional shit with some jingoism sprinkled in.
>>110148470
>Type 99
>not your raifu
>>110150663
I hate using it in RO2 reloading constantly is not a good thing for an MG, the only redeeming feature about it is that sexy scope but then I'd rather just play marksman.
>>110147929
Check out a manga called Battlefield.
>>110150663
>Having anything other then the Mosin
>>110150663
>Type 99
>Implying it has anything on the Charlton
>>110150764
If only I could make love to a gun
Its my dream that one day Japan will make their own version of Band of Brothers were as the only difference is everyone in it is a cute loli and pants dont exist.
>>110150882
>Spats of Sisters
>>110150263
>>110150804
Why is he so perfect?
>>110150952
>>110151011
>>110151035
who is this semen demon?
>>110148865
i was just about to bring up flag. while it has the whole exoskeleton thing that is still more of a legitimate near-future science-fiction thing than mecha trope. one of the smartest and most engaging animes i have watched.
>>110151053
Fritz Joseph Bittenfeld
Master of warfare
>>110151151
filthy barbarian
>>110149863
>Strike Witch love is alive and well. Happy, fun, fanservice girls sell merchandise.
Did you know that the original Strike Witches universe, the one from the novels, is actually quite violent?
Witches die, the Neuroi are far worse and more dangerous, the military fights alongside witches when possible and die too.
The war is taken seriously and the fighting too, with actually well narrated dogfighting and striker units obeying physics and their IRL counterpart specs.
The novels have witches knocked out by explosion blasts and smashing into the ground while unconscious.
They have witches crash on landing because they fly on machines that fly nothing like what they were used to due to the switch from turn-n-burn to heavier boom-n-zoom fighters adapted to new doctrines.
They have no-name witches operate from shitty bases in obsolete equipment.
Etc etc.
Stop watching the pile of shit that is the anime and go see the actual universe that Fumikane made before. It is good.
Fuck the 501st. Fuck the anime.
>WHY DOESN'T DO THIS THING I WANT THEM TO DO ;_;
back to >>>/k/ with you
>>110147929
Pic related? If it were realistic all the character would be burly men and all the fights would be at 300m. The Americans haven't made many realistic war films, truth is, real war is boring.
>>110151406
That's what's funny about it, they spend millions getting everything to look as authentic as possible, then they throw realism right out the door. Applies to videogame shooters too.
>>110151406
>real war is boring
Far from it, if anything war has become a scripted process. Politics, money and other factors come into play when the grunts are thrown into the thick of it.
>>110151406
>truth is, real war is boring.
The WWII period was full of action on certain theaters.
Take a Finnish fighter pilot during the Winter War. He's in the air more often than not, he encounters enemies sometimes minutes after taking off, and he ends up shooting multiple aircraft on most sorties while flying some obsolete aircraft given by another country.
>>110151406
>real war is boring
Leave.
>>110150263
>you will never be delta
>>110151406
>300m
More like either everything is within 50 meters because you're going from door to door or it's standoff distances across a valley and you're shooting at something you can't see at least 700m away
>>110151553
Band of brothers is good, but its far from realistic. Believe me, if you wanted realism, you'd just watch a documentary.
I want an anime Generation Kill
>>110149539
brits and japs are both dumb and cant into guns
>>110151406
>and all the fights would be at 300m.
This is what weapon designers like to think. That is not how it works. In any war where both sides have somewhat equal chances due to various factors.
See: any fighting the Russian forces got into in their former territories over the past 15 or so years.
Fighting was messy, point blank stuff with AKs while ineffective air support flew overhead and reinforcements were stuck in roadside ambushes on the way.
Not every war is about shooting multi-million dollar weapons at talibans in their mountains.
>>110151631
700m is double the effective rang of most assault rifles.
>>110151406
unless of course your in africa in which case you fight like a space marine with machete in one hand and ak in another
>season 2 never
>>110147929
Because Japan is peaceful country, no wars.
Let America wage wars: you, fortunate Japan, fapping.
>>110151701
>ineffective air support
Arty and airstrikes have claimed, by far, the most lives in wars in the past 100 years.
>>110151713
Doesn't matter. Nobody wants to get closer in case the enemy notices your approach halfway and you get caught with your pants down out of cover. It'll take way too long to assault a position properly that far away anyway, and the longer you take the more likely they'll notice.
Aren't most American war dramas still about WWII? The last glory war, the last one that turned out well and everybody can agree was justified? Yeah, Japan lost that one and was demilitarised soon after. I don't think they have much to work off of.
>>110151701
The truth is, CQC is a rare event, most of the time you'll be fighting in a farmers field in the middle of nowhere.
>>110151771
Artillery is air-support now?
>>110151861
Air support alone has claimed far more lives than the infantry in recent wars.
>>110151186
How about you stop killing Gary Stus on your own sides first.
>>110151771
Can you read?
Go read reports on fighting in Chechnya.
Look at what soldiers have to say about "air support".
>Arty and airstrikes have claimed, by far, the most lives in wars in the past 100 years.
Yes, let us summary war to what happened in the last 100 years, because WWI's artillery pits and WWII's strategic bombing raids are perfectly valid concerns in modern war.
NOT.
War isn't about obliterating a trench line or leveling cities with millions of bombs anymore.
That's where most of arty and airstrike kills in figures came from.
Try seeing what arty and airstrikes do in urban combat over assets that you actually want to capture and not destroy: it doesn't do much because neither can operate well without putting their own forces, or themselves at risk.
Russians in Grozny saw choppers passing above and thought "why aren't they helping".
And the pilots answered "we couldn't stay long enough to acquire targets, it was too dangerous".
i just want an infantry anime with gun porn,
sora no woto was boring as shit, nothing happening for 3/4 of the eps,
there's GuP, strike witches and kancolle, now i want something that ain't about school, flying legs or personified military vehicles
Realism in anime is always bad, no matter the genre.
>>110151941
And you have only stated a few couple instances, most battles don't take place in city's and you're not always trying to protect shit. Most modern arty can always accurately hit within 10m of its intended target and guided bombs are becoming more accurate by the day so there's actually not much of a argument for saying ti endangers the lives of friendly troops, seeing as most airstrikes and artystrikes never fall closer than 100m to a friendly position.
>>110151322
Are you literally retarded? What is supply and demand? Have you ever heard of marketing? If there is a group of people who want something, they will likely get it.
>>110152118
I'm pretty sure you'd have a fair chance of dying if someone dropped a mk84 100 meters away.
>>110152138
>implying nips care about bunch of neckbeards with gun fetish who probably don't even buy BD's
>>110152257
Which is why I mentioned the apparently growing population of gun and military enthusiasts in Japan. Do you even fucking read?
>>110152222
Keyword, most, not all airstrikes are dropping mk 84's.
>>110152285
>Which is why I mentioned the apparently growing population of gun and military enthusiasts in Japan. Do you even fucking read?
Fucking where? Retard. Also, it is still an insignificant minority.
>>110152257
Actually military-otaku are an interesting market nowadays, hence things like Girls und Panzer and Kancolle making mad dosh and causing a rise in sales of plastic models.
>>110152353
>It seems that more Japanese have gotten into guns recently though as we've seen with things like High School of the Dead and Upotte. They are writing stories for people who enjoy accurate gun things.
Half of the OP.
>people on this board haven't watched LoGH
>>110152353
>Also, it is still an insignificant minority.
Yes yes. Not like the most popular game in all Japan right now is Kantai Collection aka a game made for ship-nuts.
>>110152383
How the fuck would I know that you are the OP? Also, none of them are realistic as you want. Realism in anime never works.
>>110152431
By the fact that I said "I" implying I was OP.
This artist gives me the weirdest boner. Thanks OP
>>110152299
Where do you find out the percentage breakdown of ordnance they drop from air strikes?
>>110152285
Japan is still a no-gun country and will stay that way, and military otaku haven been around for decades, I don't see a growing number.
>>110152512
Sooner or later you will be fapping to cement or tarpit-girls.
>>110152602
>I don't see a growing number.
See >>110152429
as well as GuP, one of the most popular shows of the past few years.
Military-otaku may not grow more numerous but they are more present as a target audience now.
Hell this season again we have a show about airsoft.
>>110152612
It looks cool
>>110152516
I don't have the percentages, but I do know what can be dropped close enough to be considered safe an what can't, remember, an airstrike can be anything from an a10 firing a maverick at an enemy tank to a stratofortress leveling a town.
>>110152612
>Not slapping your meat to Ryona.
>>110152759
2tame4me
>>110147929
Well they did write Metal Gear Solid. That's better than anything war related America has ever written...
>>110152779
Define to me your superior tastes in meat slapping material.
>>110152779
Is this your kind of thing? http://exhentai.org/g/584883/f159387923/
>>110148865
Gundam is not that real, since there's usually an evil side and a good side.
And the whole premise of Flag is really stupid. They sent an elite unit to retrieve a fucking FLAG and then that unit (if I remember correctly) committed war crimes even though they knew that a journalist was watching them. Just wow.
Fuck military
i want cute girls in the god damn swat and anti terror teams
>no cute GIGN competing against cute GSG 9 anime
>>110150764
>nugget meme
i dont get why /k/ has the most terrible taste in guns and planes
>nuggets
>warthog
lol
>>110153209
>tfw no cute girls counter strike anime
>>110153333
Please lurk the fuck more before you post because typing like a 12 year old is not acceptable here.
It would be a nice to see moeblobs being put through war trauma.
>>110152809
Not very realistic though.
>>110151698
This is true, as evidence shows.
>>110153473
Sure, so long as it has stuff like this:
>The VC delivered a similar warning to the residents of a hamlet not far from Danang. All were herded before the home of their chief. While they and the chief’s pregnant wife and four children were forced to look on, the chief’s tongue was cut out. Then his genital organs were sliced off and sewn inside his bloody mouth. As he died, the VC went to work on his wife, slashing open her womb. Then, the nine-year-old son: a bamboo lance was rammed through one ear and out the other. Two more of the chief’s children were murdered the same way. The VC did not harm the five-year-old daughter — not physically: they simply left her crying, holding her dead mother’s hand.
>>110153591
>then USA comes and napalms everything into oblivion
>>110153426
why is it so good then o wise one
>>110153685
Lt. Kilgore pls leave
>>110153734
There is nothing better than burning people with napalm or gasoline, hell even the commies agree.
>Two VC battalions struck in the earliest hours, when the village was asleep. Quickly killing the sentries, the communists swarmed among the rows of tidy, thatch-roofed homes, putting the torch to them. The first knowledge that many of the villagers had of the attack was when VC troops turned flamethrowers on them in their beds. Some families awoke in time to escape into nearby jungle. Some men stood and fought, giving their wives and children time to crawl into trenches dug beneath their homes as protection against mortar and rifle fire. But when every building was ablaze, the communists took their flamethrowers to the mouth of each trench and poured in a long, searing hell of fire — and, for good measure, tossed grenades into many. Methodical and thorough, they stayed at it until daybreak, then left in the direction of the Cambodian border.
>Morning revealed a scene of unbelievable horror. The village now was only a smoldering, corpse-littered patch on the lush green countryside. The bodies of 252 people, mostly mothers and children, lay blistered, charred, burned to the bone. Survivors, many of them horribly burned, wandered aimlessly about or stayed close to the incinerated bodies of loved ones, crying. Some 500 were missing; scores were later found in the jungle, dead of burns and other wounds; many have not been found.
>>110152998
There's always 0080. Very heavily solidified in me the ideal that it's still just people on every side of every war.
>>110147929
Why don't you right the word write the write way?
>>110153870
I always heard good things about War in the Pocket. Do I need to watch the other Gundam shows in order to understand it? Because the only Gundam show I've seen so far is Wing, which wasn't very good.
>>110154179
Ask /m/, they probably should have a Gundam watching guide or two.
>>110154314
Okay.
>>110150764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vozi2bk4ms
>>110151549
>/k/ on a Friday night
Am I fucked up if seeing cute anime girls done execution-style is more disturbing to me than seeing it done to actual humans?
>>110154447
Actual humans aren't cute.
>>110154447
Yes.
>>110148008
I actually liked the plot of it.
I wish more anime had that central theme.
>>110152408
>LoGH
>realistic
yeah because im gonna carry an axe to attack another ship when the spear is better suited to this type of battle
SoI'm not the only one watching Sabagebu right?
>>110147929
But they do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=regl4vTld5E
>>110156119
I despise airshit and was going to pass on it, but /a/ convinced me to try it. It's actually pretty entertaining. Just friends fucking around and having fun pretend wars, none of that tourney arc "serious business" competitive bullshit that went down in C3-bu.
>>110154968
>carrying an axe instead a gun
I never got this
>>110156409
would you shoot a gun in a plane or better questionwhy would you shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane?
>>110154968
>>110156409
Did neither of you actually watch the show? They said that if they used their laser guns the the particles around them would ignite everything and kill them
>>110156617
I know guns but why didnt they use spears or halberds since its more feasible? hell why not a pilebunker
>>110156657
Probably just personal preference
>>110156617
But didn't the enemy constantly use guns in these scenes?
>>110149923
>Urobuchi will never do a "cute girls with guns" anime
![[Commie] Psycho-Pass - 03v2 [BD 720p AAC] [C27C6862].mkv_snapshot_04.19_[2014.07.01_23.40.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6ksI51j.jpg "[Commie] Psycho-Pass - 03v2 [BD 720p AAC] [C27C6862].mkv_snapshot_04.19_[2014.07.01_23.40.39].jpg")
>>110156768
He already did
>>110156409
strong independent explosives that need no oxygen.
There's plenty of manga like that
and there's probably books and movies that the Japanese made like that as well.
They got to get rid of the little girls. I"m sorry, but wars aren't going to have cute girls doing cute things more than 1% of the time.You're not going to see a cute girl shooting a gun or complaining that a Nazi is looking at her "pantsu" or any of this nonsense. Does this mean that there can't be women in war? Of course not, but they're not going to be cute, magical girls that ruin any atmosphere that such a story would have.
The thing that makes little girls attractive (as in, likeable) to an audience in an anime is that they do cute things. They have a floating demeanor, they enjoy simpler things, they have "fun." If you want a realistic girl in a apocalyptic/war scenario then just play that Walking Dead game. Just accept it.
>>110156925
...For example...
>>110150531
Band of Brothers and The Pacific were good though. there are several decent war movies.
>>110156941
>I"m sorry, but wars aren't going to have cute girls doing cute things more than 1% of the time
So you are actually implying that 1% of war is cute girls doing cute things?
>>110147929
>Is it that I've just been brought up in a very militarized and gun loving society
Then chuck in some story ideas, would love to hear them
>>110156974
Mai Wei was pretty entertaining, shame it flopped.
>>110156941
Anime is exclusively for shows with cute girls.
If you don't want cute girls, then I'm afraid this is not the medium for you.
>>110156941
>implying nazi girls gassing jews is not cute
>>110149923
I think that is mostly because it actually have an "uplifiting" ending. If the ending was depressing to the core, it probably won't attract as much audience
>>110157049
I'm not saying it's not cute, I'm just saying you can't take it seriously.
>>110157007
1% of the time, you'll see a family hiding from bomb shells and the daughter does something cute, but that's it.
>>110156966
Onward to our noble deaths is one.
>>110157029
I don't believe you.
>>110157029
Look, I'm just saying that cute girls in a realistic and depressing war anime is impossible. You'll ruin the mood and atmosphere.
>>110157127
>taking anime seriously
On the second note, if you are talking about frontlines, I doubt the cute-girl-percent isn't even close to one. If you are talking about homefront I the cute-girl-percent would be higher
>>110157193
A show about cute war nurses doing cute war nurses things may not be so horrible.
>>110157235
I'M NOT THE ONE ASKING FOR IT, THE OP IS:
>Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?
>gritty war drama
These things imply and require seriousness. And you don't get a serious nature with little girls making far noises out of their vaginas.
such is war
>>110157257
It'd be Mash 4077. Which I personally like, but not because it was serious.
>>110157157
Is this Macross?
>>110157193
>>110157157
Good series needs large funds.
Large funds came from retarded NEETs throwing money at BD or figures.
retarded NEETS only throw money to shows with cute girls.
Therefore, an anime can be good only if it has cute girls.
If you want some depressing war anime without cute girls, you'll have to bear with QUALITY slideshows that may or may not happen.
>>110157324
Plus
>>110152710
>>110152512
Who's the artist, can't find it in IQDB and google
>>110157461ShindoL
>>110157441
Welp, put 90gb worth of Macross stuff on download from some god knows torrent.
>>110148667
>The magazine stands upright, blocking your view
That's for subarashii dualweilding, holding the gun by the magazine with it's trigger down for you to press with your pinky.
>the woodpiece would rot from sitting on the mud
Hah jokes on you it's already rotten.
>and what's the point of a stationary gun with a bayonete
That's obviously a defense mechanism
>>110157385
Large funds also come from them throwing money at mechs and spaceships. Which is the model most depressing war anime use.
![patlabor_2_-_the_movie[1912x1032.h10p.flac.ac3][niizk].mkv_snapshot_01.34.45_[2014.01.04_00.09.18].png](https://i.imgur.com/CJOouMm.jpg "patlabor_2_-_the_movie[1912x1032.h10p.flac.ac3][niizk].mkv_snapshot_01.34.45_[2014.01.04_00.09.18].png")
Try watching more anime. Specifically from the 90s and early 00's.
>>110156941
>not wanting cute little girls doing cute things in Children's Crusades
>>110148236
isnt that the one about jesus and buddha in a slice of life
>>110157726
Do you guys even fucking read? It's okay if you want that, but it's NOT GOING TO BE SERIOUS. YOU CAN'T MAKE IT A GRITTY WAR DRAMA OR HAVE A DEPRESSING THEM! That's what's impossible. Not the act of smashing little girls into spooky events.
I just want a SOL anime with cute girls in a military infantry squad during peacetime, doing cute things like training exercises
>>110157783
Saikano managed to have a cute war machine girl as the focus and be horribly depressing.
>>110157783
>implying children's crusade weren't brutal
>implying you can't have the friends of a cute little girl being slaughtered by their enemies as a war drama
>>110149408
Ah, hello welfare queen
>>110157819
I never read Saikano, but it could only go down in three ways:
>it was sad as shit and the girl wasn't actually cute, but was only familiar as a cute archetype
>it was cute and it wasn't actually horribly depressing
>it was some mash 4077 shit where it'd be horribly depressing one moment and cutsie the other
It's like saying you want to watch something that makes you both happy and sad at the same time. A film can make you cry tears of joy one moment and tears of sadness the other, but not both at the same time.
They are mostly about edo/sengoku Japan.
Which is problematic because Meiji and Taisho period was when Japan was the most badass.
>>110157784
I'd watch it
I still want my cute girl Saladin/third crusade anime.
>>110157678
>mechs plastic model sales
>large funds
Those kind of 'super cool' mechs won't be realistic in your idea of a realistic war anime anyway.
>>110157538
Can't find any
>>110149077
someone is butt hurt about their big gubment
>>110148809
>Now and Then Here and There
This is a top class anime, and if you haven't already watched it, you should.
>>110150531
fuck you , I loved saving private Ryan.
>>110150531
Saving private ryan was a somewhat realistic portrayal of war you mongloid. Did you even watch the movie?
>>110153333
Nuggets because cheap funs, A10 because it's a plane attached to a big ass gun. Understand now?
>>110151755
I know your pain anon.
>>110161685
There are plenty of war movies that are far more impressive than saving Private Ryan.
>>110161685
>>110161875
Even Pearl Harbor was better than that shitty propaganda movie
>>110158306
Cold War-era Showa period was pretty cool too. WWII-era Showa period was pretty fucked up, what with Unit 731, Rape of Nanking, comfort women, Bataan Death March, etc.
>>110163755
>first 30 minutes
>shows hundreds of young Americans dying slow and painful deaths
>boys and men crying for mercy
>blood and shit everywhere
>killing of surrendering Germans
>not in any way glorifying war, or promoting propaganda
Do you even know what propaganda means you idiot? go shit post on /pol
>>110147929
Cause you only watch anime.
>>110161905
>A-10 because BRRRRRRTTT
FTFY
seriously, it's God's angry cock shooting 30mm death at 3,900 rounds a minute. It goes through Warsaw Pact armor like tissue paper and turns people into soup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk1HU5WShpU
>>110163755
>Pearl Harbor
You overplayed you bait
>>110164480
>Gunka no Baltzar
Shit, thank you for reminding me that it exists. I accidentally stopped reading on chapter 8.
>>110147929
>wasting bullet by shooting one at a time
Get the fuck out
>>110147929
>Why don't the Americans ever right good and realistic war dramas?
>>110161875
I did it just frustrates me that he didn't mention it.
>>110149539
>Marching fire
Brought to you by the (br)asshats who thought infantry charges against embedded MG positions was a good idea.
>after everyone saw how mobile those krauts were with their submachine guns
The marching fire doctrine (set fire selectors to full retard) predates the introduction of the MP-18. The Tommy gun might've too if the establishment hadn't decided Thompson would be more useful NOT developing revolutionary new firearms systems when we got involved in WWI.
>>110150531
>Usually I leave gritty realistic stuff to the west but they're just as fucking bad about it
Germany and Russia send their regards.
>>110168016
>watch every episode up to that point
>Ships explode, don't even think about sailors on board
>that fucking episode
Jesus fuck.
>>110151151
Someone needs to translate the Bittenfeld family creed into German for us.
>>110151503
>war has become a scripted process
No wonder we haven't won a war since WWII; we actually expect our enemies to follow such asinine scripts!
>>110168124
German and Russian war films are the tits
>Downfall
>The Beast of War
>Brest Fortress
Worst Korea made a good one with Tae Guk Gi
>>110168016
Being a sailor in LoGH is basically asking to be assigned to a flying metal death trap in space. I think in an average battle, millions of people die.
>>110151542
>while flying some obsolete aircraft given by another country
Word is the Finns freakin' LOVED that stuff.
>>110151406
Usually depends on the terrain.
>>110168316
Poplan and Konev had it right
>fighter pilots
>shameless drunks and womanizers
>one on one combat
>personal glory
>booze related callsigns
>>110151698
>M1903
>M50/55
>M16
>M60
>>110151941
>(complete statement) NOT.
Sure is turn of the '90s in here.
Soon...
>>110168448
>one on one combat
My ass. Poplan and Konev never had anything less than 3 valks trying to gangbang them.
Maybe the scrubs like Julian and Katarina sure, but those two were so godly they were worth as much as an admiral's fleet.
The script basically had to reign them in by having one die off screen while the other was never allowed to just shoot the fucking enemy flag ship despite Julian of all people showing you how easy it is to use the empire's ships against them.
>>110168536
>M16
>Good
Iconic, yes. But "good" ? nope.
>>110148798
I'm a little late on this, but fuck it.
>>110147989
>All those lined up Shermans at the end
And was that considered good?
>>110168694
>Poplan
>Skilled pilot and ace
>hand to hand beast only behind the Rosen Ritter and Mashengo
>relentless poonhound
>Elder God tier alcoholic
Poplan was overpowered
>>110168695
You seem to have missed the point of the post.
>>110168833
>Feed system: welfare
>>110147929
Cat shit one OVA(?) was pretty good excusing the fact they were all animals.
>>110151553
Real war mostly consists of logistics and other support these days. For one soldier engaging in combat you have hundreds of people working supplies, communications and what-not.
And that's the army.
Now consider the chairforce.
>>110157127
>and the daughter does something cute
Like fall victim to depredation by war criminals?
>>110169259
Chair force best force. A-10 a shit though.
>>110169259
>Now consider the chairforce.
I imagine that being in the U.S. chairforce is pretty damn boring.
>>110148809
>OP asks for good and realistic war dramas
>spits out a mostly irrelevant list which ranges from the overrated to underwatched, and sci-fi to mecha
You're not helping
>>110147929
>realistic war dramas
>Is it to much to ask for cute military girls doing tragic and depressing war things?
Yeah right, cute girls fight in wars en masse all the time.
>>110147929
because they are either moe which doesn't work or have an MC that is like
>I have to rescue these random ass people even if I have no chance of winning and ignoring basic orders again
Latest example is Argevollen
>>110169418
In the 2D universe the population dynamics necessitate it.
They'll certainly have one or two obi-wan-style male soldiers to look up to. Until those die and left to fend on their own of course.
Mobile Suit Gundam was pretty good at showing what a real war is like. People die, horrible shit happens, and in the end it was all for nothing anyway. Char's counterattack is also good. Oh and fucking 08th MS Team, god damn.
>>110164570
>It goes through Warsaw Pact armor like tissue paper
Provided that armor is no more modern than the T-55.
>>110159497
http://blog.naver.com/dutchko
>>110169537
Why not change the dynamics then?
Or it will fuck up sales?
>>110169341
>A-10 a shit
>>110159497
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=862223
